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People place political signs of all types along the street at the house on a weekly basis. Probably 5 or 6 a week.

Given it is private property I simply pull them and into the trash they go. I’m fairly certain no one in the neighborhood is swayed by a yard sign.

With 16 billion being spent on federal elections, and another 8 billion being spent on state and local elections, even a small percentage of that is a lot of yard/steet signs and mailers.
How much have you spent?
And you’re not fooling anyone, you pay someone to both install and remove said signs.
 

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Between the phone calls, texts, and mailers, this year has been more spam then I’ve ever had. The phone calls are a nuisance since I work from my phone. I’m literally shutting the ringer off after normal bus hours. I can’t enjoy dinner and family time without being interrupted. Hopefully this stops in a couple weeks. 🙄
 

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I saw this one....

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Unless it was a specific sales tax, requiring 2/3rds (plus one) vote, it must go into the general fund.
You are wrong. A special election requires 2/3 vote but a measure on a ballot during general election is simple majority. Our Measure P is spent with an oversight Committee. 10 members. We put a Measure K on a special election ballot 8 years ago and that required a 2/3 and it failed. 1% sales tax will cost the average family about $100.00 per year as long as their not buying a car etc: Our sales tax is now 8.75% which is still lower than hell of a lot of cities down in the valley.
 

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F-Me . . .
I just threw away at least a dozen glossy mailers w/o reading a single one.
If any of these jokers had 1/2 a clue, they'd hold 'Meet & Greets' with Q & A sessions at local neighborhood parks where the residents /voters live.
They could even have an open ice-cream truck for an hour or 2 with what they spend on BS printing costs.

It amazes me how so many people lack the ability to think even 'slightly' outside the box . . . and yet want to be in politics. (Shocking).
 

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I’ll say this.
The physical overall signage does seem less than in previous presidential election years.
However, the ads and digital assault seems far more elevated.
I pride myself on being insulated from the barrage of spam and phishing attacks that most people deal with daily.
I simply do not experience that…until now.
I’d say 1-3 a day. Now that might sound like nothing to some, but to me it’s exceedingly rare.

But more-so than that, what I REALLY see this cycle is an unbridled avalanche of lies from the left like never before seen in all of my 63 years, and I’ve watched them all since Carter took down Ford in 1976.
I now remember why I turned off the news back in November 2020.
Every single word, sentence, and utterance from Harris, Obama, Carville, Goldberg, Mumbling Joe, Pierre, and on and on right down the list is some of the most vile and false bullshit I’ve ever heard in an election.
They make the fake impeachment stories sound like children’s fairy tales.
I don’t care what your political positions are, this is unparalleled bold faced lying on a level I’ve never seen before ever. They are trying to get another idiot to take a shot at Trump. Carvelle said outright it’s time to slit throats.
How can this be tolerated and accepted?
It’s crazy.
 
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For sure way less, local corners that are usually plastered are almost bare. There are a few Trumped out houses in my neighborhood, like 20 yard signs, weird flags, all that stuff, those folks are triggered and all spun out on this stuff LOL.

Big local issue here is a 1 cent increase in sales tax, will bring in another $20M for the city to piss off on dumb shit, the local politicians are salivating at the thought of getting their dick skinners on those funds, it won’t get passed, they try every time with no luck as public trust is not there based on past performance of fail 😂

I assume most people are like me and just don’t give a shit to expend any extra effort on that sort of thing, are burned out, and no longer care. I’ll show up for 15 minutes on Election Day and vote, but after that I’m checking back out.

All politicians are scum, May start out okay and trying to do right but quickly get consumed and become part of the problem they thought they were gonna fix, those are the good ones, the shit balls go in with both hands out stealing anything that is not bolted down for them and their friends LOL

You in Upland?
 

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And that’s why I don’t put shit out front of my house. I spent a couple grand putting up American flags with happy Fourth of July cards all around my neighborhood on the Fourth of July. I went around in golf cart and had a lot of fun doing it. Most of my neighbors were really excited about it and I received at least 15 to 20 thank you calls!

I had a neighbor call me and tell me how offensive it was that I went around, pushing my views on my neighborhood. It was a fucking American flag on the 4th of July! What country is this again?

I found out from someone I know who works at the city that they got a complaint call about my flags and they responded to her that technically the city owns 10 feet back from the curb and I have their permission to continue doing it. I thought that was awesome! 🇺🇸
 

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“20 yard signs”?
“Trumped out”?
“Weird flags”?

I’m not “triggered” or “spun out”…I just happen to give a fuck about things beyond my own driveway.
So you’re really into politics and things you canno
I’m not scum
We approved a measure P 1% sales tax and it has generated $32 million a year
With that revenue, we have added 16 police officers, started construction on a new 50,000 square-foot police station, added and built a new fire station, purchased three brand new Pierce fire engines, purchased a tiller ladder truck, built a new 15,000 square-foot library and I can go on.
It’s called investing in your community and when you live in a city that has low median home values generating low property taxes and a low income demographic, It’s very difficult to provide the services that the citizens need especially now with crime and homeless.
If you stand in the grocery store line almost everybody puts their change in the container at the register which almost always amounts to more than one percent.
I will also add that this sales tax increase of one percent is 40% paid by non-residents of my city. We have traffic to and from Las Vegas and all the resources that neighboring cities need to come here and purchase
We also have an oversight committee that overseas and monitors spending of that revenue because it does not go into our general fund

It’s called investing in your community
I don’t consider myself a politician. I’m just a normal guy with a couple of boats that has a place in Lake Havasu and surfs on River Dave’s and a Mayor Pro-Tem,,,not Scum
I don’t hold politicians in high regard, sorry if you take offense to that. Our local “team” has been trying to unsuccessfully get more money for years by playing with this sales tax thing, everytime they say the same lines you just used, they never get the money here, nor will they this time. 😂
 

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“20 yard signs”?
“Trumped out”?
“Weird flags”?

I’m not “triggered” or “spun out”…I just happen to give a fuck about things beyond my own driveway.
What does more than one yard sign accomplish other than signaling to the world that you’re really worked up about things beyond your control?

We run one flag around here, Stars and Stripes, red, white, and blue. No weird colored stripes political team banners/slogan, etc…

Whoever wins the big show will be my President, and yours too😉
 

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Bravo.

If we had more statesmen and less career politicians this experiment called a Constitutional Republic might yield a more satisfactory result.

Participation is not easy, it requires mastering emotions, dealing with an amplified vocal minority and growing some thick skin. Most people don't want to participate, they just want to complain. @whiteworks talks a good game, but he does actually care about the direction the wind blows.

I'm far too selfish right now to jump back in the political arena. Thanks for your service @Ultra912
Its not easy being a nihilist but I’m trying😉

If I look back at anything I’ve ever done it’s quite clear that none of it matters if you really think about it. Most days you’re windshield, one day you’re the bug.
 

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What does more than one yard sign accomplish other than signaling to the world that you’re really worked up about things beyond your control?

We run one flag around here, Stars and Stripes, red, white, and blue. No weird colored stripes political team banners/slogan, etc…

Whoever wins the big show will be my President, and yours too😉
Good for you. 👍
But What does making a triggered political post about not caring about politics accomplish?🤷🏼‍♂️

Hey, I get it. I dont plaster my yard or house with stuff either.
Some of my neighbors do, but they certainly don’t seem triggered or worked up or “spun out”…

However…the same can not be said for those that judge them.
Still, show me an unstaged picture of a single family house on your street with 20 signs in the yard and I’ll send you $5.
 

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Good for you. 👍
But What does making a triggered political post about not caring about politics accomplish?🤷🏼‍♂️

Hey, I get it. I dont plaster my yard or house with stuff either.
Some of my neighbors do, but they certainly don’t seem triggered or worked up or “spun out”…

However…the same can not be said for those that judge them.
Still, show me an unstaged picture of a single family house on your street with 20 signs in the yard and I’ll send you $5.
It triggers the triggered into triggering the non triggered so they too can share in the triggerness😂

I’ll shoot a pic of said offenders house in a bit, stand by and have your $5.00 ready LOL
 

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Here is a photo of a house in the hood, it’s not 20 signs but I’m sure it would be if they had a larger yard, speaking of it’s one of the only places without grass, hill billys 😂

The lady yelled at me for taking this photo btw, spooled up and spun out on this shit she was. I told her I was gonna count them and put more signs in my yard, she threw out the save America go Trump yell from her window 😂😂

Take the $5.00 and donate it to the red or blue guys👍
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Here is a photo of a house in the hood, it’s not 20 signs but I’m sure it would be if they had a larger yard, speaking of it’s one of the only places without grass, hill billys 😂

The lady yelled at me for taking this photo btw, spooled up and spun out on this shit she was. I told her I was gonna count them and put more signs in my yard, she threw out the save America go Trump yell from her window 😂😂

Take the $5.00 and donate it to the red or blue guys👍
I only count 6 signs and 2 banners.
The bet was 20 signs like you claimed in post #2
That was the whole point…triggered embellishment!😂😂

But I will send $5 to Trump anyway. 😊
Gotta say…the outhouse is a nice touch.
Where do you live at?
Fontucky??
 

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I only count 6 signs and 2 banners.
The bet was 20 signs like you claimed in post #2
That was the whole point…triggered embellishment!😂😂

But I will send $5 to Trump anyway. 😊
Gotta say…the outhouse is a nice touch.
Where do you live at?
Fontucky??
I live in really fucked up place, little town on the edge of the Mohave desert, whole room full of people and you might get a full set of teeth type of spot.

I’m glad the $5.00 is going to a good cause, wasn’t sure if you would pick the crips over the bloods. 😂

Been handing these out to people who need them, just when you thought you had it all figured out 😉
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I think there’s one Trump sign in the entire Keys, Signs are against the rules in the CCR’s, state law does allow signs that are 9sq ft 70 days before an election. I’m guessing most people don’t know the rules. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Most of my neighbors are hard core Republicans, but there are some Democrats here too. Somehow we all co-exist and get along. Who would have thought. There are even some immigrants that clean houses, 😳
 
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I only count 6 signs and 2 banners.
The bet was 20 signs like you claimed in post #2
That was the whole point…triggered embellishment!😂😂

But I will send $5 to Trump anyway. 😊
Gotta say…the outhouse is a nice touch.
Where do you live at?
Fontucky??
Hey my yard/neighborhood looks nothing like that!! Can you please change to SOUTH Fontucky??
 

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Not a lot by my house but I do have 2 Trump flags in my garage which the door is usually open every night and most weekends.
Last night Eastbound heading home after work.

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I live in really fucked up place, little town on the edge of the Mohave desert, whole room full of people and you might get a full set of teeth type of spot.

I’m glad the $5.00 is going to a good cause, wasn’t sure if you would pick the crips over the bloods. 😂

Been handing these out to people who need them, just when you thought you had it all figured out 😉 View attachment 1442668 View attachment 1442669
It’s cool…I made it your name…😎😂
 

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Its not easy being a nihilist but I’m trying😉

If I look back at anything I’ve ever done it’s quite clear that none of it matters if you really think about it. Most days you’re windshield, one day you’re the bug.
Don't try, that would imply you care about being good at it. LOL :)

I was thinking about starting my own political party
The Apathy Party, join or don't, what do we care.
 

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We have never put any signs in our yard or in a window. This year, however, I couldn’t pass on purchasing this one and putting it in the garage window.

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I think that people are more comfortable being Trump supporters this time around. The amount of signs in my neighborhood are 10 to 1 for Trump. Funny what happens when you can’t control the narrative.

My neighbors across the street are very much Republican but held their nose when they voted for Trump last time around.

They have been flying a Trump flag for months now.
 

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I’m not scum
We approved a measure P 1% sales tax and it has generated $32 million a year
With that revenue, we have added 16 police officers, started construction on a new 50,000 square-foot police station, added and built a new fire station, purchased three brand new Pierce fire engines, purchased a tiller ladder truck, built a new 15,000 square-foot library and I can go on.
It’s called investing in your community and when you live in a city that has low median home values generating low property taxes and a low income demographic, It’s very difficult to provide the services that the citizens need especially now with crime and homeless.
If you stand in the grocery store line almost everybody puts their change in the container at the register which almost always amounts to more than one percent.
I will also add that this sales tax increase of one percent is 40% paid by non-residents of my city. We have traffic to and from Las Vegas and all the resources that neighboring cities need to come here and purchase
We also have an oversight committee that overseas and monitors spending of that revenue because it does not go into our general fund

It’s called investing in your community
I don’t consider myself a politician. I’m just a normal guy with a couple of boats that has a place in Lake Havasu and surfs on River Dave’s and a Mayor Pro-Tem,,,not Scum

I applaud you for getting in the arena instead of just sitting around complaining.

Here in small-town Montana, you'll see a few Trump flags, but not many, compared to Havasu. People are pretty quiet and reserved . . . .except for some of the Democrats. You know who they are because they are the only ones with the signs of 18 different candidates in their yard, all Democrats. I kinda like it, because I don't have to do a lot of research to figure out who I'm not voting for. It saves me time researching the judges, county commissioners, and school board candidates. I just look and see who these very vocal folks are voting for and I vote for the opposite. Same goes with the ballot initiatives.
 
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There is no shortage of political mailings or text messages.
It’s just a blurry image, to remind us elections are near.
I liked it old school, when they had pictures of themselves, with the occasional black sharpie glasses, or the black sharpie Dick. 😂
 

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I just don't get it. I'm entitled to vote for who I want. What the heck goes through these people's minds to make them think that my opinion (or their neighbor's) is only valid if it is the same as theirs? You vote for who you want, and I will do the same. The anger and vitriol towards someone who is voting a different way is something I cannot wrap my head around.

I pray that Trump wins so that I can watch the complete meltdown of people. If Harris wins, it won't be a meltdown. Anger, for sure, but we will pick up the pieces and get back to work. One thing to consider is that I think most people have a genuine fear of what will happen if the election doesn't go their way. Both sides have this fear in common. This is what disturbs me. Both sides think it's the end of democracy if the majority doesn't vote their way. Granted, there is a valid concern over election integrity, but aside from that, having a democratic election doing what it is supposed to do, is causing people to fear that our government and freedom will end. I find that kind of ironic and wonder how we got to this point. I try not to dwell on it because I know the media and the deep state want me to dwell on it, and be afraid, very afraid. I'm just going to keep on getting up and doing my thing every day, no matter how the election goes.
 

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I just don't get it. I'm entitled to vote for who I want. What the heck goes through these people's minds to make them think that my opinion (or their neighbor's) is only valid if it is the same as theirs? You vote for who you want, and I will do the same. The anger and vitriol towards someone who is voting a different way is something I cannot wrap my head around.

I pray that Trump wins so that I can watch the complete meltdown of people. If Harris wins, it won't be a meltdown. Anger, for sure, but we will pick up the pieces and get back to work. One thing to consider is that I think most people have a genuine fear of what will happen if the election doesn't go their way. Both sides have this fear in common. This is what disturbs me. Both sides think it's the end of democracy if the majority doesn't vote their way. Granted, there is a valid concern over election integrity, but aside from that, having a democratic election doing what it is supposed to do, is causing people to fear that our government and freedom will end. I find that kind of ironic and wonder how we got to this point. I try not to dwell on it because I know the media and the deep state want me to dwell on it, and be afraid, very afraid. I'm just going to keep on getting up and doing my thing every day, no matter how the election goes.
Yeah well there is that little deal about being f’ing shot on stage.
That’s a tangible fear, not just hyperbole.
 

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Yeah well there is that little deal about being f’ing shot on stage.
That’s a tangible fear, not just hyperbole.

Is that a genuine fear you have? Something that causes you anxiety? We've had other assassinations. Our nation survived them. Honestly, he could keel over from a heart attack at any moment.
 
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Here is a photo of a house in the hood, it’s not 20 signs but I’m sure it would be if they had a larger yard, speaking of it’s one of the only places without grass, hill billys 😂

The lady yelled at me for taking this photo btw, spooled up and spun out on this shit she was. I told her I was gonna count them and put more signs in my yard, she threw out the save America go Trump yell from her window 😂😂

Take the $5.00 and donate it to the red or blue guys👍 View attachment 1442658
I feel like this should be more like the back of the house instead of the front. Is that the front door?
 

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Is that a fear you have? We've had other assassinations. Our nation survived them. Honestly, he could keel over from a heart attack at any moment.
It’s not losing Trump that I fear.
Even if the steal is out and he gets in by some miracle, it’s only 4 years. That’s not enough to save a nation.
What I fear is the future desperation from the deep state.
When this country infights, it opens the door for outside aggression.
Lots of bad things happen to a country immersed in civil war, whatever that looks like.
They’ve taken shots at him already, killed trump supporters, and the second operative simply didn’t follow his orders. (Imo)
I watched James Carville go on a expletive filled rant on national TV yesterday about how we should have snuck in and slit the throats of Japanese and Germans…and outright stated that it was time for the left to do the same thing to Trump and his supporters. Then he said not literally.
I watched every single Dem news anchor and Dem spokesperson call Trump and his supporters a threat to democracy and outright call for violence.
All after an actual assassination attempt that killed people, and another one that was prevented.

there is no parallel or equal footing for the concern between right and left.
I most certainly am NOT the same as them.

My fear is the collapse of this Nation due to the complete unhinging of the left as their desperation escalates by the day.
Both “sides” are absolutely correct in that this is not just another election. Steal or no steal it is the fulcrum for this nation.
I was born during JFK’s first year in office.
I don’t remember his assassination but I remember Bobby’s. I’ve lived through all of them. I watched our country recover and March ahead every time.
When Clinton got impeached I was one of the few who called it a gop witch hunt.

We are a different society and a different species globally now than even just 2008 when the Bilderbergs went all in.
We are a different level technology than even just 2016.
It’s been over 10 years already since Snowden blew the whistle on the nsa.
It’s not an unfounded fear to think this is it.
Especially with the current actions of the left.
Frankly, I’ll be surprised if we make it to the actual Election Day.
 
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Driving around north San Diego county I have not seen very many Trump or Harris signs in fact none for congress either only a few other issues
There are many fences i go past that have been covered in political signage during past election years that are bare this year
What are you seeing?
They’re popping up now.
Last minute deal I guess.

Steve Garvey signs all over the place since yesterday.

BTW:
I stepped in some Schiff and got Pelosi on my Schumer.
 

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Way less political signage and stickers here than in the past. West of Denver in the mountains.
I've noticed less in Denver also.
4 years ago it seemed like every other car had a political bumper sticker. This year. I can go most the day and not see a single sticker. Makes it hard to choose which assholes to issue road justice too.
 

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It’s not losing Trump that I fear.
Even if the steal is out and he gets in by some miracle, it’s only 4 years. That’s not enough to save a nation.
What I fear is the future desperation from the deep state.
When this country infights, it opens the door for outside aggression.
Lots of bad things happen to a country immersed in civil war, whatever that looks like.
They’ve taken shots at him already, killed trump supporters, and the second operative simply didn’t follow his orders. (Imo)
I watched James Carville go on a expletive filled rant on national TV yesterday about how we should have snuck in and slit the throats of Japanese and Germans…and outright stated that it was time for the left to do the same thing to Trump and his supporters. Then he said not literally.
I watched every single Dem news anchor and Dem spokesperson call Trump and his supporters a threat to democracy and outright call for violence.
All after an actual assassination attempt that killed people, and another one that was prevented.

there is no parallel or equal footing for the concern between right and left.
I most certainly am NOT the same as them.

My fear is the collapse of this Nation due to the complete unhinging of the left as their desperation escalates by the day.
Both “sides” are absolutely correct in that this is not just another election. Steal or no steal it is the fulcrum for this nation.
I was born during JFK’s first year in office.
I don’t remember his assassination but I remember Bobby’s. I’ve lived through all of them. I watched our country recover and March ahead every time.
When Clinton got impeached I was one of the few who called it a gop witch hunt.

We are a different society and a different species globally now than even just 2008 when the Bilderbergs went all in.
We are a different level technology than even just 2016.
It’s been over 10 years already since Snowden blew the whistle on the nsa.
It’s not an unfounded fear to think this is it.
Especially with the current actions of the left.
Frankly, I’ll be surprised if we make it to the actual Election Day.

I watched that Carville piece also. He said literally, then he said he didn't mean "actually." Well, that is what "literally" means, as in "not figuratively." This is one of the most misused words in our society today. Some people use it in "literally" every sentence. It "literally" drives me insane.

However, I do believe Carville intended the correct use of literally and then realized he needed to pull back a bit.


"And I’m really not interested in being very fair about the whole thing, okay? I really don’t think we should have fought fair against the Germans and the Japanese. I think we should have, like, snuck around them. And I think we should have, you know, gone behind enemy lines and cut their throats, because that was what was at stake. I think we’re literally approaching the same place right now. And I’m not talking about everybody. Stop. Don’t faint. I’m not talking about actually slitting a political opponent’s throat."

He also said something like this will be the end of the Constitution, or our Constitution is on the line, I don't recall the exact words. To the point of my earlier post . . . both sides feel this same threat. Why is that? This is why they are willing to pack ballot boxes or other shenanigans. They feel they are doing it to save our nation, ironic, of course. But if you believe you are doing this to save the nation from a Hitler-type regime, then it's a good cause, right? Assassinate Trump and you go down as a martyr who saved our nation from evil. I think the nation would be in a better place if everyone stopped with the hyperbole, for one, and also just recognized for a moment that both sides are so passionate because people both Ds and Rs, have a very real fear that this is the end of our country if it doesn't go "my" way.

Yes, vote the way you want. Respect others' right to do the same. Understand they are voting out of extreme fear, just as you are. I think the majority of our citizens voting for those reasons is a tragedy, for all of us, and we would benefit from having some compassion for those who are doing the same thing we are doing, for similar reasons. I post this mostly as a reminder to myself. I'm struggling with finding compassion also.

I don't think we can recover from this division. They are winning. We are witnessing the final days of our empire, perhaps the empire of Western Civilization as a whole.

Russell Brand posted yesterday, "The world is never going to be the same after November 5th." I don't disagree.
 
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I watched that Carville piece also. He said literally, then he said he didn't mean "actually." Well, that is what "literally" means, as in "not figuratively." This is one of the most misused words in our society today. Some people use it in "literally" every sentence. It "literally" drives me insane.

However, I do believe Carville intended the correct use of literally and then realized he needed to pull back a bit.


"And I’m really not interested in being very fair about the whole thing, okay? I really don’t think we should have fought fair against the Germans and the Japanese. I think we should have, like, snuck around them. And I think we should have, you know, gone behind enemy lines and cut their throats, because that was what was at stake. I think we’re literally approaching the same place right now. And I’m not talking about everybody. Stop. Don’t faint. I’m not talking about actually slitting a political opponent’s throat.

He also said something like this will be the end of the Constitution, or our Constitution is on the line, I don't recall the exact words. To the point of my earlier post . . . both sides feel this same threat. Why is that? This is why they are willing to pack ballot boxes or other shenanigans. They feel they are doing it to save our nation, ironic, of course. But if you believe you are doing this to save the nation from a Hitler-type regime, then it's a good cause, right? Assassinate Trump and you go down as a martyr who saved our nation from evil. I think the nation would be in a better place if everyone stopped with the hyperbole, for one, and also just recognized for a moment that both sides are so passionate because people both Ds and Rs, have a very real fear that this is the end of our country if it doesn't go "my" way.

Yes, vote the way you want. Respect others' right to do the same. Understand they are voting out of extreme fear, just as you are. I think the majority of our citizens voting for those reasons is a tragedy, for all of us, and we would benefit from having some compassion for those who are doing the same thing we are doing, for similar reasons. I post this mostly as a reminder to myself. I'm struggling with this also.

I don't think we can recover from this division. They are winning. We are witnessing the final days of our empire, perhaps the empire of Western Civilization as a whole.

Russell Brand posted yesterday, "The world is never going to be the same after November 5th." I don't disagree.
Gong back in time, I can’t remember a national election during my lifetime whether Presidential or mid-term, where some on one side didn’t argue the world would end if the other side won. The other side has always been a threat to the very existence of mankind.


 

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Gong back in time, I can’t remember a national election during my lifetime whether Presidential or mid-term, where some on one side didn’t argue the world would end if the other side won. The other side has always been a threat to the very existence of mankind.



Thank you for that. I have asked my parents if things were worse in the 60s, they originally said no, but have since changed their minds. I suspect it's because they watch Fox News for 15 hours a day.
 

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I've always been very quiet about my political beliefs with friends and coworkers. I'm not the kind of guy to wear a MAGA hat, or own flags or clothing with "FJB" or "Lets go Brandon". That kind of display (IMO) doesn't get any voters to change their minds. I'm always aiming to be a socially responsible conservative in hopes of actually making some people on the left think that I'm reasonable with my conservative beliefs. I just want to win more people over instead of shoving MAGA down their throats, it doesn't do any good. Furthermore, I'm more of a fan of being conservative than I am of Trump, don't get me wrong, I like him and he's totally the guy for the job right now, 100%. But, I really can't wait to vote for Vance, he's gonna be my guy in 4 years.
 

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Gong back in time, I can’t remember a national election during my lifetime whether Presidential or mid-term, where some on one side didn’t argue the world would end if the other side won. The other side has always been a threat to the very existence of mankind.
Not once have I ever said the world was ending, or mankind would disappear. In fact I’ve heard no one say that except TDS sufferers. No one.
Your hyperbole is tiring and boorish.
What I’ve ALWAYS said is that this could be the end of our republic “as we know it”. That’s a far cry from crowing about the end of the world.
Your Reductio skills are really slipping…desperation maybe?

Thank you for that. I have asked my parents if things were worse in the 60s, they originally said no, but have since changed their minds. I suspect it's because they watch Fox News for 15 hours a day.
I haven’t watched FOX for 3 1/2 years.
I watch about 1 hour a day tops now just to see if anyone has taken another shot at trump yet…oh wait, nothing to see there.
“Worse in the 60’s”? How can that comparison even be made?
Well, maybe in some ways I guess?


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Not once have I ever said the world was ending, or mankind would disappear. In fact I’ve heard no one say that except TDS sufferers. No one.
Your hyperbole is tiring and boorish.
What I’ve ALWAYS said is that this could be the end of our republic “as we know it”. That’s a far cry from crowing about the end of the world.
Your Reductio skills are really slipping…desperation maybe?



I haven’t watched FOX for 3 1/2 years.
I watch about 1 hour a day tops now just to see if anyone has taken another shot at trump yet…oh wait, nothing to see there.
“Worse in the 60’s”? How can that comparison even be made?
Well, maybe in some ways I guess?


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Neither of the posts you quoted were about you, Tommy. Yet it seems you think they were personal attacks. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong.

I stand by my statements. Both sides think it's the end of our nation. You and 530 both proved my point.
 

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Neither of the posts you quoted were about you, Tommy. Yet it seems you think they were personal attacks. Perhaps I'm reading it wrong.

I stand by my statements. Both sides think it's the end of our nation. You and 530 both proved my point.
Touché! 👌

One thing is for certain.
Every time I see the sub human post I consider it a personal attack.
It has no “side”, and uses whomever serves its interest at that moment. Just as it did a few posts ago.
Sincerity is not in its wheelhouse. .



As far as our republic goes, you’ll note that I ALWAYS say “the end of our republic AS WE KNOW IT”.
I do that as a qualifier to infer that I DO NOT think it’s domestic or international Armageddon if the left steals another election, it’s a pivotal change in the way our republic functions. This is already happening. Like the boiling frog, we just don’t see it clearly.

I’m old, and I don’t have the Hallmark greeting card gene that makes me worry for my kids.
I’m tired of wishy washy so called republicans (not you) being almost apologetic to the left so as not to offend their delicate sensibilities, saying it hurts the right to be mean to these so called “undecided voters”, while the assholes strangle this country of ours.
Frankly, anyone still “undecided” either has no brain and is a single issue dumb fuck…or just wants some imaginary $25K to buy a house they’ll never qualify for, or they really believe the bullshit lies falling out of the whores cock holster. (Pardon my language)
This is a woman who has failed upwards her ENTIRE so called career…plain and simple.
Democracy was flushed down the toilet when she was “appointed” the D candidate.
In the words of Kevin O’Leary…”Obama and all the others bypassed democracy and invested in a person who couldn’t pull a single percent in her own states primary. One thing I know is that when when democracy is circumvented, it ALWAYS circles back and bites you in the ass!”
This is an example of the changes in our nation that we are now tolerating, a small bit of proof that we are losing our Constitutional Republic.
RvW is the ONLY platform the left has to point at.
THAT seems to be their entire purpose for this nation.
Isn’t it Ironic that Micheal Keaton, Ben Stiller, and others march out their daughters to champion abortion rights?
“Fathers Against Grandchildren” was mentioned
(Acronyms aside…)
I’m not even pro life and even I see this absurdity.
I’m about the same age as the sub human.
I too have seen the history of elections in this nation.
I watched Nixon resign, laughed when Reagan announced, and on and on.
There is a reason the Oracle is minimizing the significance of this particular “election”, and it isn’t because it’s “just like all the rest of them”.
A huge part is his clinical TDS, but another part is his self serving nature. That’s why he is a so called libertarian, why he holds high end fund raisers, why he sat on a school board yet has no kids.

I realize there is nothing I can do besides cast a vote into the belly of the beast, and nothing I say or do will convince anyone of anything.
But one thing I can do is sincerely speak my mind and be honest.
And I’m honestly tired of equalizing treachery by spreading it out on the toast.
 
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I watched that Carville piece also. He said literally, then he said he didn't mean "actually." Well, that is what "literally" means, as in "not figuratively." This is one of the most misused words in our society today. Some people use it in "literally" every sentence. It "literally" drives me insane.

However, I do believe Carville intended the correct use of literally and then realized he needed to pull back a bit.


"And I’m really not interested in being very fair about the whole thing, okay? I really don’t think we should have fought fair against the Germans and the Japanese. I think we should have, like, snuck around them. And I think we should have, you know, gone behind enemy lines and cut their throats, because that was what was at stake. I think we’re literally approaching the same place right now. And I’m not talking about everybody. Stop. Don’t faint. I’m not talking about actually slitting a political opponent’s throat."

He also said something like this will be the end of the Constitution, or our Constitution is on the line, I don't recall the exact words. To the point of my earlier post . . . both sides feel this same threat. Why is that? This is why they are willing to pack ballot boxes or other shenanigans. They feel they are doing it to save our nation, ironic, of course. But if you believe you are doing this to save the nation from a Hitler-type regime, then it's a good cause, right? Assassinate Trump and you go down as a martyr who saved our nation from evil. I think the nation would be in a better place if everyone stopped with the hyperbole, for one, and also just recognized for a moment that both sides are so passionate because people both Ds and Rs, have a very real fear that this is the end of our country if it doesn't go "my" way.

Yes, vote the way you want. Respect others' right to do the same. Understand they are voting out of extreme fear, just as you are. I think the majority of our citizens voting for those reasons is a tragedy, for all of us, and we would benefit from having some compassion for those who are doing the same thing we are doing, for similar reasons. I post this mostly as a reminder to myself. I'm struggling with finding compassion also.

I don't think we can recover from this division. They are winning. We are witnessing the final days of our empire, perhaps the empire of Western Civilization as a whole.

Russell Brand posted yesterday, "The world is never going to be the same after November 5th." I don't disagree.
I have no fear.
And I will NEVER accept any comparison of myself with the idiots backing the destruction of my country.
It’s insulting at the very least.
Believe me, don’t believe me no matter.
History will show the truth.
Hit me up in 6 months, we will compare notes.
 
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I'm gonna be glad when this shit is over, all it does is piss me off. Deleted my rant, because it added no value and just made me angry. Hope Trump wins and blows the whole establishment elitist BS to hell.
 
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