Lead on Raptor R?

[Englewood]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

 

[Chili Palmer]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

They look badass.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

They ride great for those trips to the mall.

I like them and they look awesome but would never own one for all the reasons you listed.

A generic F150 with King shocks will ride great on the street for $30k less than a standard Raptor.

 

[evantwheeler]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

How can you say they dont off-road very well? What are you comparing it to off-road wise?

 

[Englewood]

How can you say they dont off-road very well? What are you comparing it to off-road wise?

How fast can a stock Raptor go over a rough 2 track w whoops?

15? 20?

 

[WhatExit?]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

Here’s what you’re missing:
Best riding factory truck on and off road
Best off roading full size truck from the factory
Talking about MPG or cost of a truck these days is also silly

 

[Englewood]

Here’s what you’re missing:
Best riding factory truck on and off road
Best off roading full size truck from the factory
Talking about MPG or cost of a truck these days is also silly

They may be better than other “stock” vehicles, but far from a good off-roading vehicle.

 

[WhatExit?]

They may be better than other “stock” vehicles, but far from a good off-roading vehicle.

Except for their width they're an excellent off roading vehicle especially for what they're designed for, open washes and trails. If it can fit it will go anywhere any other 4 door full-size pickup will go off road

They don't fit on "Jeep trails" and yes, 2FF, a SxS is better than everything else

 

[530RL]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

Think of Raptor R‘s like perfectly shaped D size breasts.

The life support system can sometimes be troublesome and high maintenance.
They aren’t real comfortable for the owner to haul around.
They eventually become “L” for long.
They cost more than any thing you can imagine.

But they are very appealing…..

 

[Taboma]

.000001% of these will ever see dirt.

Mine sees dirt every time I tow my trailer with my offroad vehicle offroad.
The Platinum with those skimpy sidewall Pirelli Scorpion A/T (Not A/T)

How fast can a stock Raptor go over a rough 2 track w whoops?

15? 20?

About 90 according to my neighbor who does their desert R&D, the trick is, deflate the tires, put a little weight in the bed, and don't let up.
The trick as I'm sure you're aware, is the accelerating to that and decelerating out of it.
The truck is amazing offroad, assuming you're talented enough to drive it as it's true potential will allow.
The speeds you stated would be the least desirable in that condition.

And yes, I've witnessed his videos, that's the fun part having him as a neighbor, I get to see the shit very few ever will.

One of his tricks he shared the other day is --- Baja Mode (For the better shit program, plus much quicker turbo boost, as it doesn't truncate the acceleration power as much), complete deactivation of traction control (Not just partial), then manually switch the 4WD mode back to 2WD drive and let her rip.

 

[Englewood]

Except for their width they're an excellent off roading vehicle especially for what they're designed for, open washes and trails. If it can fit it will go anywhere any other 4 door full-size pickup will go off road

They don't fit on "Jeep trails" and yes, 2FF, a SxS is better than everything else

We are buying trucks to go down washes and fire roads now? Ya, no thanks.

 

[530RL]

This should give us a good idea about the market.

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[530RL]

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[Runs2rch]

They ride great for those trips to the mall.

I like them and they look awesome but would never own one for all the reasons you listed.

A generic F150 with King shocks will ride great on the street for $30k less than a standard Raptor.

This is what we did. Sound better also, tow more as well.

 

[Taboma]

This is what we did. Sound better also, tow more as well.

Yeah, well I know how you feel, I used to be 'Just' a F150 owner as well.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Yeah, well I know how you feel, I used to be 'Just' a F150 owner as well.

And now a trip to the mall is overlanding!

 

[Taboma]

And now a trip to the mall is overlanding!

Least you sit in judgement, my Raptor knows Arizona dirt.
But yes, it's heading to the mall now for lunch.

 

[LuauLounge]

$148,517 for the first one. Ad said MSRP was $111,000.

 

[Dan Lorenze]

Let's just call it 200k, for an F150!.... I'll go be poor somewhere else...

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[LargeOrangeFont]

Let's just call it 200k, for an F150!.... I'll go be poor somewhere else...

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Well for any new 5.0 F150 you can add the $12k FP700 package and retain the factory warranty when installed by the dealer…

It will walk a Raptor R.

F-150 FP700 BLACK EDITION

F-150 FP700 BLACK EDITION|Ford Performance Parts

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[attitude]

Well for any new 5.0 F150 you can add the $12k FP700 package and retain the factory warranty when installed by the dealer…

It will walk a Raptor R.

F-150 FP700 BLACK EDITION

F-150 FP700 BLACK EDITION|Ford Performance Parts

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I’ve also read that you can just do the supercharger for 10k if you don’t want the rims and other add ons.

 

[baja-chris]

Not in the whoops it won’t.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Not in the whoops it won’t.

You mean the speed bumps at the mall?

 

[530RL]

Latest market pricing

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2023-ford-f-150-raptor-r-9/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2023-11-02

 

[MeCasa16]

They can ask, but going on CarGurus and searching nationwide will probably get you one at MSRP.

 

[Taboma]

Local dealership just sold one for $ 75K over, no problem.

 

[BBYSTWY]

My local ford dealer here in MI will order it and sell it for MSRP....I get fleet pricing through my work on the big 3 and they won't honor that on a Raptor R but will sell it for retail. Just bought a silverado LTZ from their sister dealer(same owner) a few months ago and they gave me fleet discount pricing...market is finally coming back to some sort of reality around here at least. The inflation in general will never go away unfortunately....the days of a brand new 50 thousand dollar truck with good options are long gone but the price gouging over retail has stopped at least.

 

[Taboma]

My local ford dealer here in MI will order it and sell it for MSRP....I get fleet pricing through my work on the big 3 and they won't honor that on a Raptor R but will sell it for retail. Just bought a silverado LTZ from their sister dealer(same owner) a few months ago and they gave me fleet discount pricing...market is finally coming back to some sort of reality around here at least. The inflation in general will never go away unfortunately....the days of a brand new 50 thousand dollar truck with good options are long gone but the price gouging over retail has stopped at least.

Wonder how your local dealership enjoys having a Carlsbad Ford Dealer, like Ken Grody as a perfect example --- buying it at retail, trucking it to CA and adding a tidy $ 50K if not more, and selling it as it as fast as it rolls off the the hauler ?
When you look at the window stickers of the line of Raptors and far more rare R's on his lots, most all are from dealers east of the Mississippi.
Without a doubt, he's got the largest number of Ford specialty vehicles of any and all CA dealers for this reason.

 

[Mandelon]

My current F-150 cost less than just the Additional Dealer Markup on this truck. LOL

 

[HALLETT BOY]

Just wait a few more weeks , these high dollar trucks are all being repo’d at a historical rate , and hitting auctions like crazy . Another 6 months and they will be calling YOU to buy . Nobody should pay anything over msrp

 

[Taboma]

My current F-150 cost less than just the Additional Dealer Markup on this truck. LOL

I waited seven years to get my '18 Raptor as I refused to pay the markup. Thankfully, as much as I'd enjoy the Vroom Vroom factor of the R, it's appetite for sucking mass quantities of hydrocarbons makes it undesirable for my casual needs.
I know, I know, go be poor somewhere else.

 

[Taboma]

Just wait a few more weeks , these high dollar trucks are all being repo’d at a historical rate , and hitting auctions like crazy . Another 6 months and they will be calling YOU to buy . Nobody should pay anything over msrp

Just what I don't need, some $100K truck some broke dick assclown trashed before watching it get hauled off --- no thanks.

 

[DLC]

Can someone enlighten me on the appeal of these?

They don’t tow well.
They don’t Offroad very well.
They have bad mpg.
They cost more than a 1-ton Dually.

What am I missing?

They just Eat up all those speed bumps at the mall….

 

[J&k beer can]

A good friend of mine is buying a R today...

He is going to list his 2013 for sale.. Has 66k miles with some upgrades very well taken care of..

 

[Taboma]

A good friend of mine is buying a R today...

He is going to list his 2013 for sale.. Has 66k miles with some upgrades very well taken care of..

I'd own one of those right now simply for no rational reason other than putting a big grin on this old face.
However, screw the project engineer who despite most others being in disagreement, decided NOT to offer an alternative seat that doesn't crush your fucking nuts.
But then go figure, the he-bitch weighs all of about 95 lbs soaking wet.

So kudos to your good friend and may God Bless his precious family jewels.

 

[viperized_jr]

A good friend of mine is buying a R today...

He is going to list his 2013 for sale.. Has 66k miles with some upgrades very well taken care of..

I’m interested please send me the details.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Raptors are status symbols the way Beamers used to be. Same reason people lift their trucks, pointless, but man it makes you look cool!