Lawmen: Bass Reaves

[Outdrive1]

When you say they fail, what exactly does that mean?
What did they do?
Mine is flawless so far, granted only 4 months or so?
(That’s over $800 savings over DTV)

They just don’t work. They need to be rebooted and updated. Dave acts like he bought one 10 years ago and never had an issue. He’s had multiple boxes over the years, and I’ve watched him spend an entire night trying to update boxes so they work. It’s not like a cable box, you’re stealing programming, on the other end, someone figures out how to lock you out, then you need a new program. It’s an endless cycle. The older boxes aren’t updatable (if that’s a word), so you’ll need the newest model to keep up.

 

[Outdrive1]

Thinking back I’ve had 4 magic boxes, not 3.

 

[was thatguy]

They just don’t work. They need to be rebooted and updated. Dave acts like he bought one 10 years ago and never had an issue. He’s had multiple boxes over the years, and I’ve watched him spend an entire night trying to update boxes so they work. It’s not like a cable box, you’re stealing programming, on the other end, someone figures out how to lock you out, then you need a new program. It’s an endless cycle. The older boxes aren’t updatable (if that’s a word), so you’ll need the newest model to keep up.

Huh
I haven’t seen any of that so far.

As far as stealing, not true.
Do you think Walmart, Amazon, target etc would market illegal devices?
The superstream box is a device no different than your cell phone. One of many similar devices.
We are conditioned to believe we have to pay for tv.
They should be paying us for creating value for their advertising fees. Like you tube does.
Currently, content creators collect from both ends, advertisers and end users (us).
That is soon to be over across the board.

 

[Outdrive1]

Huh
I haven’t seen any of that so far.

As far as stealing, not true.
Do you think Walmart, Amazon, target etc would market illegal devices?
The superstream box is a device no different than your cell phone. One of many similar devices.
We are conditioned to believe we have to pay for tv.
They should be paying us for creating value for their advertising fees. Like you tube does.
Currently, content creators collect from both ends, advertisers and end users (us).
That is soon to be over across the board.

Did you buy yours at Walmart or from
Someone who programs it for you?

Come on Tommy, yes, you’re stealing. If you’re watching Paramount or Showtime or ??? Without paying for it, you’re stealing it. The days of free broadcast tv are gone. Showtime was never part of that free program anyhow. If you’re watching NFL games, you’re stealing. If not every bar in the country would have magic boxes instead of paying for a business subscription to show live games, which costs a small fortune.

 

[was thatguy]

Did you buy yours at Walmart or from
Someone who programs it for you?

Come on Tommy, yes, you’re stealing. If you’re watching Paramount or Showtime or ??? Without paying for it, you’re stealing it. The days of free broadcast tv are gone. Showtime was never part of that free program anyhow. If you’re watching NFL games, you’re stealing. If not every bar in the country would have magic boxes instead of paying for a business subscription to show live games, which costs a small fortune.

It’s coming.

Btw, bars profit from content.
Hey, I beat the whole stealing drum for years.
Pretty sure I chided RD right here on this site.
Until I researched revenue stream and how streaming content generates revenue.
The boxes are the same no matter where you buy it.
How many apps on your phone did you pay for?
How many do you pay monthly for?
Do you feel guilty watching you tube for free?

Think about it.
Why would the only thing that adds value to advertisers (us, the viewers) actually PAY to be the asset??
Its a conditioned behavior.
Been to a blockbuster lately?

Pretty soon these very content creators you mention (paramount etc) will be paying for people to use them (paying the app creators) so that advertisers will pay paramount.
You’re giving them money for no reason at all. You are the value to their product.

 

[RiverDave]

They just don’t work. They need to be rebooted and updated. Dave acts like he bought one 10 years ago and never had an issue. He’s had multiple boxes over the years, and I’ve watched him spend an entire night trying to update boxes so they work. It’s not like a cable box, you’re stealing programming, on the other end, someone figures out how to lock you out, then you need a new program. It’s an endless cycle. The older boxes aren’t updatable (if that’s a word), so you’ll need the newest model to keep up.

The original boxes that ran off KODI were somewhat finicky, but still overall were better than cable. I'm guessing you might have bought a Kodi box and then it ended it's lifecycle.. then waited and purchased another at the end of its lifecycle? I'm not sure.

I am sure I've never spent an entire night updating anything to get it to work.. LOL. I'm not that techy to begin with. I will say with the old Kodi ones, sometimes you had to fuck around for awhile to find a good stream for a ppv fight to work? Maybe that's what you are referring too?

I'm not even sure how old the M1's are now.. but I still run 2 of them, one in my living room and one in my bedroom. I have an M3 in my garage. There's no updating or anything on the new ones. You just click the show and go.

The boxes over the last 3,4 years you don't even pick the streams.

I've lived in havasu for 12 years.. for 11 1/2 of them I've used magic boxes in one form or another. When I left Carlsbad my cable bill was over 200.00 a month to get all the premium channels etc. That's 26,400.00 based on 200.00 a month at 11 years.. I'm into magic boxes of one variety or another about 1400.00 total.

RD

 

[Outdrive1]

The original boxes that ran off KODI were somewhat finicky, but still overall were better than cable. I'm guessing you might have bought a Kodi box and then it ended it's lifecycle.. then waited and purchased another at the end of its lifecycle? I'm not sure.

I am sure I've never spent an entire night updating anything to get it to work.. LOL. I'm not that techy to begin with. I will say with the old Kodi ones, sometimes you had to fuck around for awhile to find a good stream for a ppv fight to work? Maybe that's what you are referring too?

I'm not even sure how old the M1's are now.. but I still run 2 of them, one in my living room and one in my bedroom. I have an M3 in my garage. There's no updating or anything on the new ones. You just click the show and go.

The boxes over the last 3,4 years you don't even pick the streams.

I've lived in havasu for 12 years.. for 11 1/2 of them I've used magic boxes in one form or another. When I left Carlsbad my cable bill was over 200.00 a month to get all the premium channels etc. That's 26,400.00 based on 200.00 a month at 11 years.. I'm into magic boxes of one variety or another about 1400.00 total.

RD

I bought 4 of these paperweights from you. Lol

Either way it just wasn’t worth the trouble. And yes you rebooted a couple these and it was super complicated. Not searching for streams, that was a normal part of the 20 minute process to watch anything was trying to find a good stream.

 

[was thatguy]

The original boxes that ran off KODI were somewhat finicky, but still overall were better than cable. I'm guessing you might have bought a Kodi box and then it ended it's lifecycle.. then waited and purchased another at the end of its lifecycle? I'm not sure.

I am sure I've never spent an entire night updating anything to get it to work.. LOL. I'm not that techy to begin with. I will say with the old Kodi ones, sometimes you had to fuck around for awhile to find a good stream for a ppv fight to work? Maybe that's what you are referring too?

I'm not even sure how old the M1's are now.. but I still run 2 of them, one in my living room and one in my bedroom. I have an M3 in my garage. There's no updating or anything on the new ones. You just click the show and go.

The boxes over the last 3,4 years you don't even pick the streams.

I've lived in havasu for 12 years.. for 11 1/2 of them I've used magic boxes in one form or another. When I left Carlsbad my cable bill was over 200.00 a month to get all the premium channels etc. That's 26,400.00 based on 200.00 a month at 11 years.. I'm into magic boxes of one variety or another about 1400.00 total.

RD

Yeah.
You may remember I watched your set up in the garage M3 that day I got my first one.
I calculated my extremely conservative estimate to DTV at about $57,000.00 over 24 years.
Without question it’s much much higher than that.
All those years of premiums and nfl package.

It’s a mindset to think we, the value, should pay for tv.
Content providers will adapt (and they already know it) or they will go the way of the buggy whip.
The sooner people realize that paying for any tv content is simply icing on the revenue stream, the sooner things will progress.

 

[was thatguy]

I bought 4 of these paperweights from you. Lol

Either way it just wasn’t worth the trouble. And yes you rebooted a couple these and it was super complicated. Not searching for streams, that was a normal part of the 20 minute process to watch anything was trying to find a good stream.

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Everything you’ve described is completely foreign to my experiences.
No bullshit.
I look for app updates once a month. Limitless just did one.
Have yet to do any factory resets or any kind of fucking around?
I only use 3 apps.
I’ve downloaded others but then deleted them as redundant.

 

[Outdrive1]

Everything you’ve described is completely foreign to my experiences.
No bullshit.
I look for app updates once a month. Limitless just did one.
Have yet to do any factory resets or any kind of fucking around?
I only use 3 apps.
I’ve downloaded others but then deleted them as redundant.

My machines are outdated, just like the current ones will be at some point. Maybe I got in at the end of a cycle. Hopefully you get some time on yours. The problem I found was, when they die, you’re fucked. Now you’re trying to set up a conventional system that works. Which is time consuming. Like I said, I have 7 tvs throughout the house, garage and patio. I’d rather not babysit 7 boxes, I want everything to work.

 

[was thatguy]

My machines are outdated, just like the current ones will be at some point. Maybe I got in at the end of a cycle. Hopefully you get some time on yours. The problem I found was, when they die, you’re fucked. Now you’re trying to set up a conventional system that works. Which is time consuming. Like I said, I have 7 tvs throughs the house, garage and patio. I’d rather not babysit 7 boxes, I want everything to work.

DTV genie would be your option.

 

[Badchoices03]

Huh
I haven’t seen any of that so far.

As far as stealing, not true.
Do you think Walmart, Amazon, target etc would market illegal devices?
The superstream box is a device no different than your cell phone. One of many similar devices.
We are conditioned to believe we have to pay for tv.
They should be paying us for creating value for their advertising fees. Like you tube does.
Currently, content creators collect from both ends, advertisers and end users (us).
That is soon to be over across the board.

I can buy bolt cutters at Walmart, does that mean I can cut some locks and steal some shit from your storage?

 

[dirtslinger2]

I have 2 "SuperBox's" one I bought 2 years ago from a guy off offerup, the newest one, i bought off Amazon a few weeks ago. They are pretty much flawless. Occasionally they will have some small glitch, but I have to remind myself that I'm not paying $300 for DTV anymore, and I calm down and have some patience.

 

[was thatguy]

I can buy bolt cutters at Walmart, does that mean I can cut some locks and steal some shit from your storage?

I’m over insured…
We announce dui checkpoints too.
Should we announce bank security downtimes for robbers?

Here’s why I believe what I do about streaming.
When I cancelled direct tv this year I was paying $195 a month for a package that did not include any premium channels. So all my content was advertiser based content.
DTV immediately (and still) started bombarding me with offers.
I think the last one was about $60 a month for a year and they’d throw in Showtime or whatever. That’s almost a 70% discount. Why? how is it that they would be willing to give me that?
Simple. They could literally give me everything for “free” and it would still make them money.
How?
Well, just like this site we are on, RDP, that we use for free…it has a value to advertisers. That’s how RD monetizes the site.
The more active members, the more the advertising (and outright) value.
TV is the same thing.
You are paying for something that they can and will give you for free because you add value to the product.
It’s simple. Just like you tube.
The only reason we think we have to pay for tv is because that’s how it’s always been since cable came to be.
We used to have 3-4 channels for free…remember our roof top or rabbit ear antennas?

So, whether any one agrees or not it does not change the fact. You are throwing away money on a dying platform.
I chose to stop doing that.
The content providers will milk it till the bitter end, then they will deal with the app creators to be a part of this new way of selling their product.
Even the pay apps like Hulu will not exist as an end user payable app.

Like I’ve said, I was the torch carrier for DTV years. Then I got smart about it.
No one paid for TV before cable.
Now cable is dying and we are back to reality.
I’ll say it again, they should be paying us as end users.
Without us their product is zero value to anyone.
They are collecting revenue from both supply side and user side. That’s going to stop, and already has for me.

No one pays for a you tube app on any device.
It’s on my phone, my laptops, my Apple box, and my superstream.
No different.