Later

[Joker]

Can HolyMoly forward him the new address in case he pulls the boat out this year?

 

[RitcheyRch]

He not allowed here.

 

[Joker]

Oh, my bad. Could make it interesting.

 

[OCMerrill]

Oh, my bad. Could make it interesting.

Oh crap look out. When Holy Moly reads this

3' tall miget ninjas are freaking crazy with anger.

 

[Mr. C]

Well i do have to thank Later for one thing. I had lurked for awhile, but it was his sunk the boat thread that finally made join.
So again i say thank you Later.

 

[HavasuWakecraftZR6]

He not allowed here.

How do you know he's not allready here?

 

[RitcheyRch]

I was thinking that after made the statement. Actually think remember seeing his name in a post the other day.

How do you know he's not allready here?

 

[Stalkaholic]

Actually...Later's already here.

I got him to reinstate the pulling up of the boat again (he gave up on it several months back due to all the red tape imposed on the pull) and this time he has an independant licensed/insured diver with all the necessary salvage equipment to do the job.

The reason he's wanting to go the route of doing it the right way and go through all the necessary red tape is to avoid any unnecessary fines that can be imposed on him by the water district, who owns and operates Lake Piru.

I spoke with him a few days ago, and the current situation is:

They have submitted all necessary paperwork to commence with the dive. According to him, the water district has to check the diver's licensing, insurance, workmans comp, etc etc (which his diver has and they have submitted). Once all that checks out, they have to inspect all the dive and salvage equipment and make sure that it all meets standards. On top of this...the dive has to be scheduled and a ranger has to be on site as well as the sheriff's search & rescue, so they have to coordinate with them to get people on site on the day of, which is why it needs to be scheduled.

They have been waiting to hear from the water district for about a month now, and have made countless phone calls and sent emails and have gotten no response from them yet. However, a couple of weeks ago the diver went out and did a stealth dive at the original coordinate that was given to him by Later. The diver found the boat...the boat is 15' off the mark and standing straight up. The boat went down ass end first and planted itself in the mud at the bottom of the lake. This means that when they do salvage the boat, they have to somehow break it loose from the bottom without ripping the hull and get the boat to where it's sitting on its bottom before they can lift it.

So the boat has in fact been found and verified that it is still at the bottom of the lake. Once they hear from the water district and get everything approved and scheduled, the diver estimates about 5-6 hours to get the boat resting on its bottom and lifted to the surface.

 

[Old Texan]

Actually...Later's already here.

I got him to reinstate the pulling up of the boat again (he gave up on it several months back due to all the red tape imposed on the pull) and this time he has an independant licensed/insured diver with all the necessary salvage equipment to do the job.

The reason he's wanting to go the route of doing it the right way and go through all the necessary red tape is to avoid any unnecessary fines that can be imposed on him by the water district, who owns and operates Lake Piru.

I spoke with him a few days ago, and the current situation is:

They have submitted all necessary paperwork to commence with the dive. According to him, the water district has to check the diver's licensing, insurance, workmans comp, etc etc (which his diver has and they have submitted). Once all that checks out, they have to inspect all the dive and salvage equipment and make sure that it all meets standards. On top of this...the dive has to be scheduled and a ranger has to be on site as well as the sheriff's search & rescue, so they have to coordinate with them to get people on site on the day of, which is why it needs to be scheduled.

They have been waiting to hear from the water district for about a month now, and have made countless phone calls and sent emails and have gotten no response from them yet. However, a couple of weeks ago the diver went out and did a stealth dive at the original coordinate that was given to him by Later. The diver found the boat...the boat is 15' off the mark and standing straight up. The boat went down ass end first and planted itself in the mud at the bottom of the lake. This means that when they do salvage the boat, they have to somehow break it loose from the bottom without ripping the hull and get the boat to where it's sitting on its bottom before they can lift it.

So the boat has in fact been found and verified that it is still at the bottom of the lake. Once they hear from the water district and get everything approved and scheduled, the diver estimates about 5-6 hours to get the boat resting on its bottom and lifted to the surface.

Oh my god, won't this damn thing ever go away..........Is the diver family or just stupid?

Maybe we need to start a pool on how many peices the damned thing comes up in and how many stay stuck in the mud......:hmm

 

[Stalkaholic]

LOL you guys!!!

Jetaholic, let me know when they pull that bad boy up. I'd like to be there to take pictures and have later meet the "midget" in person. I'll even bring a bag of meth as a token of friendship.

LMAO!!!:fsakes

 

[TBI]

Actually...Later's already here.

I got him to reinstate the pulling up of the boat again (he gave up on it several months back due to all the red tape imposed on the pull) and this time he has an independant licensed/insured diver with all the necessary salvage equipment to do the job.

The reason he's wanting to go the route of doing it the right way and go through all the necessary red tape is to avoid any unnecessary fines that can be imposed on him by the water district, who owns and operates Lake Piru.

I spoke with him a few days ago, and the current situation is:

They have submitted all necessary paperwork to commence with the dive. According to him, the water district has to check the diver's licensing, insurance, workmans comp, etc etc (which his diver has and they have submitted). Once all that checks out, they have to inspect all the dive and salvage equipment and make sure that it all meets standards. On top of this...the dive has to be scheduled and a ranger has to be on site as well as the sheriff's search & rescue, so they have to coordinate with them to get people on site on the day of, which is why it needs to be scheduled.

They have been waiting to hear from the water district for about a month now, and have made countless phone calls and sent emails and have gotten no response from them yet. However, a couple of weeks ago the diver went out and did a stealth dive at the original coordinate that was given to him by Later. The diver found the boat...the boat is 15' off the mark and standing straight up. The boat went down ass end first and planted itself in the mud at the bottom of the lake. This means that when they do salvage the boat, they have to somehow break it loose from the bottom without ripping the hull and get the boat to where it's sitting on its bottom before they can lift it.

So the boat has in fact been found and verified that it is still at the bottom of the lake. Once they hear from the water district and get everything approved and scheduled, the diver estimates about 5-6 hours to get the boat resting on its bottom and lifted to the surface.

You can't be fucking serious :fsakes

 

[Stalkaholic]

Yes the diver actually found the boat...it is still down there. As far as how badly damaged it is we don't know yet...it's down about 55ft and it's pretty murky down there. But the boat has been found and it has not moved since it sank.

The funniest thing I learned is that down that deep apparently there are catfish over 6' long!!! How the hell can divers deal with fish that fuckin' big!? Maybe Froggystyle or other experienced divers can chime in on that one.

 

[Moneypit]

I smell a rat, a big fricken rat with a 9"...........(In the words of rotten mouth Johnny).................Starting to draw some paralles here, who could be Later?............MP

 

[rocket98]

Yes the diver actually found the boat...it is still down there. As far as how badly damaged it is we don't know yet...it's down about 55ft and it's pretty murky down there. But the boat has been found and it has not moved since it sank.

The funniest thing I learned is that down that deep apparently there are catfish over 6' long!!! How the hell can divers deal with fish that fuckin' big!? Maybe Froggystyle or other experienced divers can chime in on that one.

I thought the boat was at 115'. Has the lake gone down 60'. Nice try but I'm not going for it.

 

[Stalkaholic]

So, how does John feel now about all his conspiracy theories that people were trying to steal his boat, including Lake Piru?

To him it was a big relief...personally I thought it was rather stupid to assume that people from HB would actually go through all that trouble to recover a sunk boat for the sole purpose of conspiring against him. When I called him to talk him into recommencing the recovery of the boat, he was actually still concerned about it not being there. I reassured him that I doubted anyone would go through that kinda trouble to do something like that.

So this time he took a different approach. He posted ads on Craigs List for a diver and ended up finding one that would do it.

I think the biggest deal in this is that no longer does he have to once again go out and try to find the boat since the diver knows exactly where it's at. On top of that, the fact that the boat is pretty much "anchored" to the bottom of the lake pretty much guarantees that it's not gonna all of a sudden drift from that spot. So now that they know where the boat is, it's just a matter of getting approval from the water district and getting a scheduled date. Once that happens, everything should go like clockwork.

 

[Stalkaholic]

I thought the boat was at 115'. Has the lake gone down 60'. Nice try but I'm not going for it.

Remember, the lakes didn't get as full over the last winter season. A lot of the lakes are really low this time of year. Hell the lake I frequent here locally has gone down to 19% and it hasn't been that low in quite a few years.

 

[Mr. C]

Once that happens, everything should go like clockwork.

Are you forgetting this is a Later thread?

Nothing goes like clockwork.

 

[Stalkaholic]

Are you forgetting this is a Later thread?

Nothing goes like clockwork.

True, but does it ever in boating?

 

[RitcheyRch]

Unfreakingbelievable. I will believe it when see it.

 

[RitcheyRch]

No faith at all and dont trust the slime ball.

C'mon....don't you have any faith? It is not like this guy let everyone down, repeatedly!!!

 

[Stalkaholic]

I can see where everyone here has no faith in this...

However, a diver actually has gone down and found the boat. This is one big step in the right direction, and the fact that the boat has in fact been found by a diver who actually went down and touched the boat with his own hands has given Later a new motivation to proceed with pulling it up.

Unfortunately from what I hear the water district isn't being very cooperative with the matter. Furthermore they haven't imposed any environmental impact fees on him for some unknown reason. I dunno...maybe they're trying to cover up the fact that a boat ever sank in their lake to prevent it from being a liability or something...I honestly don't know the legal aspects of this. However, the fact that he has actual visual conformation of the boat being down there (rather than a sonar image that they think the boat is down there) is a big step in the right direction.

 

[Riodog]

No faith at all and dont trust the slime ball.

That's an understatement. The boat may still be down there somewhere but the rest is bullshit.
Rio

 

[RitcheyRch]

If indeed a diver has gone down and found the boat than thats awesome but I wouldnt trust hearing that from Later himself.

 

[TBI]

He's full of shit!(again) I know where the boat is, and it isn't in Lake Piru

 

[PropCop]

I thought the boat was at 115'. Has the lake gone down 60'. Nice try but I'm not going for it.

Yes, in fact the lake has dropped that much. I actually thought it would be lower than that right now. During the late summer this year they dumped a bunch of water out of it, about half the total capacity I believe. Hell, maybe I will drive up there today and go take a couple of pics of the lake. The boat couldnt move too far considering it sunk near the dam.

 

[Stalkaholic]

Yes, in fact the lake has dropped that much. I actually thought it would be lower than that right now. During the late summer this year they dumped a bunch of water out of it, about half the total capacity I believe. Hell, maybe I will drive up there today and go take a couple of pics of the lake. The boat couldnt move too far considering it sunk near the dam.

Actually the boat hasn't moved at all. It went down transom first and stuck itself into the bottom of the lake, so it's pretty much trapped where it sits.

I'm not expecting the pull to happen for another 2-3 months unfortunately due to the water district draggin their feet on it. Hopefully I'll have my boat ready to go by that time (currently undergoing winter maintenance, pulled the motor, gotta clean up the bilge, install carpet, bowl swap etc etc) because I do plan on being there for the pull. However if they drag their feet too long that part of the lake will be too deep again which will limit the amount of bottom time the divers have to get the boat prepared for lifting.

 

[PropCop]

Actually the boat hasn't moved at all. It went down transom first and stuck itself into the bottom of the lake, so it's pretty much trapped where it sits.

I have had many conversations with the Sheriffs Dive Team. The bottom of that lake is very dark and murky, and is full of silt and mud. Every winter alot of mud and debris dumps into it, so it should be stuck really good. The most time consuming part of the retreival will be just unsticking it before raising it. On a positive note we didnt get very much rain last year so the run off into the lake was minimal.
I'm game to go watch the festivities if the date is ever actually set. I want to see the UNBROKEN steering cable...lol

 

[Stalkaholic]

I have had many conversations with the Sheriffs Dive Team. The bottom of that lake is very dark and murky, and is full of silt and mud. Every winter alot of mud and debris dumps into it, so it should be stuck really good. The most time consuming part of the retreival will be just unsticking it before raising it. On a positive note we didnt get very much rain last year so the run off into the lake was minimal.
I'm game to go watch the festivities if the date is ever actually set. I want to see the UNBROKEN steering cable...lol

I'm in this simply because for one I'd like to see him get his boat back (I almost sank mine the first time I drove it due to the pump suction housing coming apart) and for two, I've never seen a salvage operation done, and I think it would be really interesting to see the kind of damage done to a boat that is left underwater for that long. Also it would be interesting to see what goes on at an underwater salvage.

Also I'm curious to find out what exactly went wrong, if it was something mechanical or was it just luck of the draw.

 

[BajaMike]

Yes the diver actually found the boat...it is still down there. As far as how badly damaged it is we don't know yet...it's down about 55ft and it's pretty murky down there. But the boat has been found and it has not moved since it sank.

The funniest thing I learned is that down that deep apparently there are catfish over 6' long!!! How the hell can divers deal with fish that fuckin' big!? Maybe Froggystyle or other experienced divers can chime in on that one.

You know this for a fact or are you taking Later's word for it??:nono

Did you actually talk to the diver??

 

[TBI]

 

[Mr. C]

:beer

 

[WATERDOG]

I'm sorry. I'm laughing to hard to post an intellegent reply. Guessing the only reason the water district is taking so long is their still adding up the bill. Was this boat insured?

 

[Zaairman]

Are you forgetting this is a Later thread?

Nothing goes like clockwork.

Mr. C = John Case? :hmm

 

[Stalkaholic]

No the boat was not insured unfortunately.

I haven't yet spoke to the diver, but I plan on doing so tonight. I'm also hoping the diver can send me some pictures that I can post up here for proof (he took an underwater camera down with him). I've heard the pics are murky due to the water down there being murky below 20' or so, but you can still tell it's definitely his boat.

 

[squirtnmyload]

i can't believe i'm reading about this tard again.....so my question is who is paying for all this

 

[Joker]

Whoa, I thought this thread would die since Rich stated Later was not allowed here anymore

 

[PropCop]

Im back from Lake Piru. It is down bigtime. The ski/hangout cove is dry and the north end of the lake ends at the new launch ramp, which is dry.









So yes, the lake has dropped about 60'. :swear

 

[later]

Lake was drained due to dam repair. Lake is down to 50 feet. Yes the boat is there and yes the waiting is on. Need's to be approved by Santa paula water district before anything happens serious fines could happen if there is no permission. So there it is. If anytime to pull this out is now!. There it is in a nut shell.:smackhead

 

[TBI]

Lake was drained due to dam repair. Lake is down to 50 feet. Yes the boat is there and yes the waiting is on. Need's to be approved by Santa clarita water district before anything happens serious fines could happen if there is no permission. So there it is. If anytime to pull this out is now!. There it is in a nut shell.:smackhead

Who gives a flyin fuck? Beat it loser

 

[PropCop]

Lake was drained due to dam repair. Lake is down to 50 feet. Yes the boat is there and yes the waiting is on. Need's to be approved by Santa clarita water district before anything happens serious fines could happen if there is no permission. So there it is. If anytime to pull this out is now!. There it is in a nut shell.:smackhead

Dude, IF this is you (puncuation and grammar has me skeptical) do you EVER take notes or write anything down? With all the supposed contact you have had with the lake about recovering it, I would hope you would KNOW you would need permission from the United Water Conservation District, who owns and runs the lake. Who the hell is Santa Clarita Water?
oint

 

[RitcheyRch]

Could only have hoped it would die.

Whoa, I thought this thread would die since Rich stated Later was not allowed here anymore

This whole thread is like the movie "Groundhog Day"

Now that someone let Later in here how much longer before all his alter egos start showing up.

 

[Some Kind Of Monster]

Lake was drained due to dam repair. Lake is down to 50 feet. Yes the boat is there and yes the waiting is on. Need's to be approved by Santa clarita water district before anything happens serious fines could happen if there is no permission. So there it is. If anytime to pull this out is now!. There it is in a nut shell.:smackhead

Are you fucking kidding me. Buddy believe me cut your losses and move on.

 

[NUTHIN]

Lake was drained due to dam repair. Lake is down to 50 feet. Yes the boat is there and yes the waiting is on. Need's to be approved by Santa clarita water district before anything happens serious fines could happen if there is no permission. So there it is. If anytime to pull this out is now!. There it is in a nut shell.:smackhead

your an ass dude. rollin up on the other forum on my thread saying I was selling your boat.. and YOU were going tell yourself about it.. then saying you knew who I was and where I lived and YOU were going to check it out.... YOU scared my son man. THAT IS NOT KOOL. so what kinda B.S. is that? if this is someone having fun with your (name) then LOL if this is you IM not so sure you really know how you PISSED PEOPLE OFF

 

[wishiknew]

My jet was under for about 45 minutes and everything almost in the boat was FOCKED UP I can only imagine what shape this thing is in!!!!!!!

 

[later]

Lake was drained due to dam repair. Lake is down to 50 feet. Yes the boat is there and yes the waiting is on. Need's to be approved by Santa paula water district before anything happens serious fines could happen if there is no permission. So there it is. If anytime to pull this out is now!. There it is in a nut shell.:smackhead

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[RitcheyRch]

Stupid Later trying to fool us by updating his own posting. On one he wrote Santa Clarita and on the last post he changed it to Santa Paula.

Guess he didnt think about all of us quoting him and those not updating.

 

[Some Kind Of Monster]

My jet was under for about 45 minutes and everything almost in the boat was FOCKED UP I can only imagine what shape this thing is in!!!!!!!

Thats what I'm saying.. Did your bag of gold go down with the boat? I've actually heard that everything will last a long time under water. It's when you expose it to air that it focks everything up.

 

[PropCop]

Could only have hoped it would die.





This whole thread is like the movie "Groundhog Day"

Now that someone let Later in here how much longer before all his alter egos start showing up.

TOO LATE!!!

Umm, about 10 or 15 minutes???? :fsakes

 

[later]

Stupid Later trying to fool us by updating his own posting. On one he wrote Santa Clarita and on the last post he changed it to Santa Paula.

Guess he didnt think about all of us quoting him and those not updating.

My bad

 

[rocket98]

Could only have hoped it would die.





This whole thread is like the movie "Groundhog Day"

Now that someone let Later in here how much longer before all his alter egos start showing up.

Both of them are already here........