!LAM! Dump Trailer

[Kylemenz1]

I went way overboard and bought this thing to haul around yard/construction waist and toys. For some damn reason my local dump does not allow standard trailers anymore. And since I’ve got the big shell on my truck making dump runs has become near impossible without making a huge mess of my truck.

I was looking at cheaper makes but the quality of this build is out of control! It put all the others I was looking at to shame. The engineering on this thing is pretty damn cool.

I’m going to rent it out to recoup the cost of purchasing it since I’ll only be using it a couple times a month. Check out my ad in the classifieds if you want to use it.

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[Roaddawg]

Nice trailer

 

[zhandfull]

Nice trailer, GVW under 10k?

 

[Kylemenz1]

Nice trailer, GVW under 10k?

14,900lbs GVWR


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[BONER]

That thing is so cool, it'd be worth having even if you didn't need to load / unload anything.

 

[Roaddawg]

14,900lbs GVWR


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Need a non commercial class a for that thing

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[sixdays]

Need a non commercial class a for that thing

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Pretty sure it requires a full commercial A. Non-commercial A is good for 5th wheels over 15k. Any bumper pull over 10k is commercial land, especially if it’s not an RV trailer. This has been a hot topic on many forums over the years. Do most get away without it? Yes, but I wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of it.

Sick trailer, btw!!!

 

[Kylemenz1]

Pretty sure it requires a full commercial A. Non-commercial A is good for 5th wheels over 15k. Any bumper pull over 10k is commercial land, especially if it’s not an RV trailer. This has been a hot topic on many forums over the years. Do most get away without it? Yes, but I wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of it.

Sick trailer, btw!!!

Oh well! Haha. I guess it is overkill.

But until it’s not okay to loot, riot, assault people, or shut down public highways in the name of a protest I’m going to run it. And I’ll deal with CHP and the courts if I have too.

Seems like a trailer should be the last of their worries. But then again people with trailers tend to be the people that pay their fines.


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[Kbach]

Nice!!

There's just something cool about trailers. Maybe it's because I'm a guy...the wife just doesn't understand and shakes her head when I point out a nice trailer

Some day I'll add a dump trailer and a drop deck trailer to my arsenal.

 

[RogerThat99]

I like it. [emoji106][emoji106]

My dump is the same (sort of). They let non-dump.trailers in, but you have to unload them in the area where you basically back up to a dumpster and throw it over a railing. It sucks for big, heavy items.

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[Roaddawg]

Pretty sure it requires a full commercial A. Non-commercial A is good for 5th wheels over 15k. Any bumper pull over 10k is commercial land, especially if it’s not an RV trailer. This has been a hot topic on many forums over the years. Do most get away without it? Yes, but I wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of it.

Sick trailer, btw!!!

You are right Full commercial class A is needed..Regular patrol guys shouldn't be a problem but if you get stopped by an MRE (commercial dudes in trucks) you are gonna be done.

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[rrrr]

Pretty sure it requires a full commercial A. Non-commercial A is good for 5th wheels over 15k. Any bumper pull over 10k is commercial land, especially if it’s not an RV trailer. This has been a hot topic on many forums over the years. Do most get away without it? Yes, but I wouldn’t want to be on the wrong side of it.

Sick trailer, btw!!!

Jesus H. Christ...around here you buy a trailer tag good up to 18K lbs for $110, hook it up to something with a trailer hitch, and get your shit done.

Just SMH...

 

[OCMerrill]

If you bought it new go back and have the seller stamp for 9980. You will need a new mfg sticker then re-register the trailer.

I have a 14k dump trailer stamped 9980. I have been pulled over and inspected but never weighed. Also Load range F tires because they don't show loaded weight in the sidewall and keep the load covered no matter what. I pull 3 days a week for the past 15 years. I know what they look for.

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

14,900lbs GVWR


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We just bought one for the ranch wifey uses the fuck out of it

 

[Happy Smitty]

Nice trailer. If I had one I'd park it in my side yard, grab a beer and look it over on Friday and Saturday evenings. Just that is almost as satisfying as actually using it.

 

[Rvrluvr]

Cute little thing

 

[RitcheyRch]

Very nice. Would you let RD borrow it?

 

[welldigger00]

This place is the best! Hey dudes, check out my cool new thing I’m proud of! Yeah, it’s ok, but you’re not doing this or that right. I know more than you. [emoji23][emoji23]


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[Kylemenz1]

This place is the best! Hey dudes, check out my cool new thing I’m proud of! Yeah, it’s ok, but you’re not doing this or that right. I know more than you. [emoji23][emoji23]


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All this info has been a good schooling for me.

Now every time I tow it will be super exciting! I’ll be like a criminal in the FBI’s watch list dodging the law!


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[zhandfull]

Jesus H. Christ...around here you buy a trailer tag good up to 18K lbs for $110, hook it up to something with a trailer hitch, and get your shit done.

Just SMH...

Good point! In California the trailer tags are PTI and you have to pay more for the added weight of trailer and load on the truck registration. The overweight tickets are a real bitch in California.

 

[lakemadness]

Living in fear of getting caught for being overweight with a non business trailer? That’s a fucking communist state.

I have an old flat bed I inherited from family. Never got the title and it’s has not been registered since 2005. I still run it once in a while. Never worried about being picked up. Cops here work on actual crimes/criminals.

Seriously, California can suck a fat black dick.

 

[lakemadness]

I was surprised about the California pti tags. They’re so aggressive with expired tags but issue a plate with pti and no expiration? When I lived there a had a trailer with pti tag I always thought why would a ever register this thing?

 

[pronstar]

Licensing in Texas is easy.

My trailer has a GVWR of 14k. No Comm license needed, thanks to the “and” in the regs. If they were changed to “or” then it would be a different story.

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[zhandfull]

Licensing in Texas is easy.

My trailer has a GVWR of 14k. No Comm license needed, thanks to the “and” in the regs. If they were changed to “or” then it would be a different story.

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You lost me on this, says CDL required if trailer alone is over 10k GVWR and yours is.

edit:
Never mind you can pull a 20k trailer with your 6k truck without a class A cdl. Not sure that is actually correct but I guess that is how it reads.

Here is the “or” wording in Texas requirements for the class A commercial license
Class A – Permits the holder to operate any combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, provided the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle or vehicles towed exceeds 10,000 pounds.

I use to deal with all this BS when self employed. Don’t miss it much. It’s a real burden to do everything on the up and up anywhere.

 

[DC-88]

From the pics it doesn't look bigger than 7'x12', which is a common size for the 9900gvwr models. No way you'd get pulled over from a visual other than an improperly covered load. Maybe use a labelmaker to add some additional info to it in a couple key spots which may also help to keep renters from overloading it lol . Dump trailers are the ones I never loan out, people fuck them up every time and they get tons of flat tires and abuse as it is

 

[Kylemenz1]

From the pics it doesn't look bigger than 7'x12', which is a common size for the 9900gvwr models. No way you'd get pulled over from a visual other than an improperly covered load. Maybe use a labelmaker to add some additional info to it in a couple key spots which may also help to keep renters from overloading it lol . Dump trailers are the ones I never loan out, people fuck them up every time and they get tons of flat tires and abuse as it is

What is it that causes flat tires on these thing so frequently?


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[TITTIES AND BEER]

What is it that causes flat tires on these thing so frequently?


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going to the dump and driving over shit I just lost a tire on my dully with a screw in the side wall told wifey no more taking it to the dump take the old ranch truck

 

[NicPaus]

Upgrade the tires for sure. Flats suck. Upgrade the battery or run duals. Like OC mentioned they will tag it 9,999 for you.

I had a Carson dump 16' with 16k rating. Use to drag it around with my F450. Several local contractors i know got popped so I sold it. One got a 8k ticket. Another 4k. Takes a lot of loads to recoup 8k. Even a Member here got popped with his but it was for weight sticker on truck. Real common 1. If work body on truck pay for the 26k sticker.

 

[hallett21]

Upgrade the tires for sure. Flats suck. Upgrade the battery or run duals. Like OC mentioned they will tag it 9,999 for you.

I had a Carson dump 16' with 16k rating. Use to drag it around with my F450. Several local contractors i know got popped so I sold it. One got a 8k ticket. Another 4k. Takes a lot of loads to recoup 8k. Even a Member here got popped with his but it was for weight sticker on truck. Real common 1. If work body on truck pay for the 26k sticker.

Yea my 2k ticket for being registered too light was real fun. Long story short dealer sold me a truck (3500 CC service body) registered at 8k lbs. I had negotiated OTD pricing before picking it up. And they obviously didn’t feel like eating the registration costs and I didn’t know any better. Told me that the trailer was a separate weight.

That’s not true. So now I’m stickered at 26k

I’m typically in the Malibu/Calabasas area and the highway patrol are always on the look out. But I’m in a service body truck. My trailer is 12x7x3 and has 7k axles but is tagged at 9,990.

Highway patrol at the lost hills dump stops people routinely. Usually commercial/contractor trucks.

Edit: not trying to be negative. Dump trailers are awesome. Just trying to spread a little knowledge that hopefully saves you a few bucks lol.

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[pronstar]

Yeah I get flats all the damn time.
Mostly on the trailer, but the thick-as-shit MT’s on my truck gets them once in a while as well.

99% sure it’s from the dump.

I’ll be looking to upgrade these trailer tires once I get to the point here I can’t repair them anymore...discount tire says three repairs max per tire.

I’m just not sure if a heavy/expensive LT tire would be any better at resisting punctures than a crappy E-rated trailer tire.


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[srttruck]

Cute little thing View attachment 949166

You hauling viagra with that thing?

 

[OCMerrill]

Yea my 2k ticket for being registered too light was real fun. Long story short dealer sold me a truck (3500 CC service body) registered at 8k lbs. I had negotiated OTD pricing before picking it up. And they obviously didn’t feel like eating the registration costs and I didn’t know any better. Told me that the trailer was a separate weight.

That’s not true. So now I’m stickered at 26k

I’m typically in the Malibu/Calabasas area and the highway patrol are always on the look out. But I’m in a service body truck. My trailer is 12x7x3 and has 7k axles but is tagged at 9,990.

Highway patrol at the lost hills dump stops people routinely. Usually commercial/contractor trucks.

Edit: not trying to be negative. Dump trailers are awesome. Just trying to spread a little knowledge that hopefully saves you a few bucks lol.

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What boogered you was the service body. I used to run Isuzu NPR's but CARB made me throw those away. Now its pickups with ladder racks and under the bed rail tool boxes so I can stay "Pick-up truck based". That is the last loophole and soon that will be gone also. Take a pickup and remove the bed for whatever and you move straight into commercial, CA numbers, and fine territory. I hated dealing with that bullshit MCP, Inspections, etc. I still have the Million commercial policy for employees non-owned auto and my remaining two trucks.

 

[shan]

Well, I know a little something about the FMCSA, if that trailer and truck are not registered to a business, you're golden. Maybe California has enacted their own stupid rules, but in the the real world if it's private, none of the DL requirements or anything else applies.

 

[Mandelon]

I bought a 5x10 double axle dump trailer earlier this year. Best $5000 I ever spent. I have a 6x12 utility trailer that we hauled demo in all the time. I'm too old to unload that thing anymore. And I'm too cheap to pay a crew to sit in line for 45 minutes waiting to get into the dump. Now I take it to the landfill at 4:15, and there's no line since they stop letting trucks in at 4:30. I dump it myself and laugh as I hold down the dump button. It is awesome!! Congrats. I do carry a good jack and a big wrench. Had a couple flats, but it only takes 5 minutes to put on the spare.

 

[Roaddawg]

Well, I know a little something about the FMCSA, if that trailer and truck are not registered to a business, you're golden. Maybe California has enacted their own stupid rules, but in the the real world if it's private, none of the DL requirements or anything else applies.

This may be true other places but not here in Comifornia

 

[shan]

This may be true other places but not here in Comifornia

So, an 80 yo with a KW Toterhome and a stacker trailer is a commercial vehicle driver?

 

[Roaddawg]

So, an 80 yo with a KW Toterhome and a stacker trailer is a commercial vehicle driver?

Nope Non commercial class A will work fine for that setup

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[NicPaus]

So, an 80 yo with a KW Toterhome and a stacker trailer is a commercial vehicle driver?

Put a flatbed or dump trailer behind it and yes commercial license. Or like mentioned non commercial class A.

 

[NicPaus]

You can add sides to increase capacity. In and out in 10 minutes tonight. Our dump is open until 10 PM. Line stops after 5 usually.

 

[Kylemenz1]

You can add sides to increase capacity. In and out in 10 minutes tonight. Our dump is open until 10 PM. Line stops after 5 usually. View attachment 949667

Sweet! That’s on my list of things to do.


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[braindead]

So, an 80 yo with a KW Toterhome and a stacker trailer is a commercial vehicle driver?

Toter home should be register as an RV so it’s non-commercial, if you hook a dump trailer up to the back of it that has a gross vehicle weight of more than 9999 pounds then it becomes commercial, welcome to The California money grab

 

[Universal Elements]

I was surprised about the California pti tags. They’re so aggressive with expired tags but issue a plate with pti and no expiration? When I lived there a had a trailer with pti tag I always thought why would a ever register this thing?

There Is a service fee that you have to pay the CA dmv every 5 years so they maintain the record on the trailer.

 

[RiverDave]

This place is the best! Hey dudes, check out my cool new thing I’m proud of! Yeah, it’s ok, but you’re not doing this or that right. I know more than you. [emoji23][emoji23]


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I kinda read that as... Look at this cool new thing I bought, if you want to rent it I posted it here for everyone to see.. LOL.

OCMERILL gave some good advice above about how to run under the radar.

RD

 

[TITTIES AND BEER]

Lol wifey said a couple people are asking to use ours I told her to go hay cubes and don’t dump it just back it in barn and leave it FYI it won’t completely dump in the barn so you have it shovel it ( and don’t look at that tractor next to the trailer to dump it )