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This is such an easy solution....... get a floating boat lift and be done with the BS. All you need is a flatbed trailer to remove boat lift from lake and store at your home, if you don’t want a year round slip expense.

Sunstream with Solar control is the Cadillac. I have a Harborhoist, and even though it is very good, the Sunstream is better. However, a Harborhoist has a upgrade in which you can put a power canopy on, which when lowered, truly covers the boat. This would be a must have for me, if I were keeping the boat in Havasu. Another nice advantage, I don’t use lines, (ropes for the uneducated). I just pull in and hit the up button. Everything is out of the water. Easy Peasy!

Now, here is how you can save money on the purchase. Buy it used in South Florida and ship it to Havasu. My Harborhoist cost 20k new. I bought mine for $5500 used. A week after my purchase, someone sold my exact Boatlift for $1500 On Craigslist. A Sunstream is about 25k new, but can be had for as little as a couple of grand, when some homeowner wants it gone yesterday! Lol Realistically, if you found a 10,000lb Sunstream for 7k, it would be a screaming deal.

The only problem is this. A few people have figured out that they can make a great income, buying and selling used floating boat lifts, so you have to be able to jump on one.

I actually purchased my used Harborhoist in Jupiter, then towed it 50 miles to my home. It only took 15.5 hours at 3 knots.

 
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I swear by the Bio Kleen @Tank posted about a few months back. Holy crap this stuff is like magic! Love it :

Bio-Kleen M01609 Fiberglass Acid Hull Cleaner, 1 Gallon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IPB9HA...abc_9HK16Y9AWMGZ4KH4VF1V?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!!

This bikleen stuff is magic in a bottle. wet the stainless or fiberglass (it takes haze off stainless and brown out of fiberglass), spray on the BioKleen, wipe with a rag, spray off and whola! Magic. Nill effort, much results. Stuffs crazy. Note though, don't get it on any rubber hoses or black plastic coating. It stains them I've been told.

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By the way, my zincs looked like that after 11 days in the river and havasu.
 

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I get a slip in August at the Springs. But, I get it for 4 to 5 days at a time. I did it for a week one time and noticed deposit forming on my hull. Nothing too bad but there was stuff.
 

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ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY!!

This bikleen stuff is magic in a bottle. wet the stainless or fiberglass (it takes haze off stainless and brown out of fiberglass), spray on the BioKleen, wipe with a rag, spray off and whola! Magic. Nill effort, much results. Stuffs crazy. Note though, don't get it on any rubber hoses or black plastic coating. It stains them I've been told.

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By the way, my zincs looked like that after 11 days in the river and havasu.

I have not used this specific bio-kleen fiberglass cleaner but have used one of their other ones.


Works awesome as well and great for getting calcium off of stainless. But as you mentioned be very careful with getting it on anything plastic or powdercoated. I have a buddy with an acid etched garage floor and it stained it with ugly white spots everywhere.
 

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I have a slip at the Landing. I pretty much stick to a max of 10 days. We're typically weekenders, so not usually more than 3 days anyway. This last week it was 6 days, and I had to do a little extra cleaning but not too bad. I do swim around the scum line with a towel and clean it in the water every couple of days to stay ahead of it.

What I don't see here, that many of you who retrieve every day may not understand, is that I have no schedule on the water. None. If I want to hang at the house until noon, then I'm down at the boat at 12:30. If we are having fun sitting in the channel late in the day, we walk to dinner, and run back to the Landing when we feel like it. Friends we boat with are always stressing about getting to the ramp, and back to the house for dinner. I'm at the lake to boat, we float for cocktail hour, we literally head to our favorite beach late night and hang. Whatever we want, never think a second about launching or retrieving except when we leave. That's worth a ton of money and some cleaning (once a trip) to me.
 

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Those Zincs ! [emoji15] . . . they're definitely doing their job.I wonder if it's a 'Hot Dock' ?
When you say hot dock, your referring to a boat that has a electrical issue causing reverse polarity in the water right?


I have heard of issues in marinas where multiple boats run ship to shore and there are grounding issues but I'm not sure if the marina has ship to shore power at the dock, maybe someone can confirm

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When you say hot dock, your referring to a boat that has a electrical issue causing reverse polarity in the water right?


I have heard of issues in marinas where multiple boats run ship to shore and there are grounding issues but I'm not sure if the marina has ship to shore power at the dock, maybe someone can confirm

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Yes . . . I am by no means an expert, . . . I just had some experience when we kept a boat in the saltwater years ago. Electrolysis was particularly bad on our dock, and others around us were having the same problems. If I remember correctly they were able use some sort of 'meter' to track down the source of the problem, not sure what type of equipment it was. They narrowed it down to one particular boat, and told the guy "Fix it or you're out of here".
 

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I grew up on the east coast, our boats stayed in the water from April to October. Anti fouling paint was the key, how come nobody uses that here? Shit was toxic, terrible process each year sanding off the old and painting on the new.
 

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A lift is the only way to go. We boat much more having a slip than we would if we had to launch, but protecting the boat by lifting it out of the water is the only way to keep it nice.
I smile every time I drive past your setup... Dock envy! :cool:
 

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Pretty scary actually how easy this issue can turn deadly. Always makes me nervous.

Good diagram of boat charging issue with a bad dock ground.

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Here's one of those portable devices that detect electricity near the dock or in your pool.


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Pretty scary actually how easy this issue can turn deadly. Always makes me nervous.

Good diagram of boat charging issue with a bad dock ground.

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Here's one of those portable devices that detect electricity near the dock or in your pool.


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I see videos on you tube all the time with people jumping in the water at marinas in powel. Scary...
 

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I see videos on you tube all the time with people jumping in the water at marinas in powel. Scary...
I guess it's a pretty prevalent problem back east more with freezing and snow and back to 100 degree weather every year. Reeks havoc on wiring. Which makes me worry even more out here since it's not such a problem and not on peoples minds 😬😳
 

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It also tends to have multiple victims because it’s a bit of a silent killer. Someone sees there loved one struggling and doesn’t realize it’s electricity. Inevitably they jump in to save their loved one and now they too are rendered immobile and then on and on.
 

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Pretty scary actually how easy this issue can turn deadly. Always makes me nervous.

Good diagram of boat charging issue with a bad dock ground.

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Here's one of those portable devices that detect electricity near the dock or in your pool.


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You should see the back bay of LA Port:
Water mobile home park😳
We check before we go in, all kinds of illegal power under those docks
 

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I guess it's a pretty prevalent problem back east more with freezing and snow and back to 100 degree weather every year. Reeks havoc on wiring. Which makes me worry even more out here since it's not such a problem and not on peoples minds 😬😳
Only thing where RD parks is most are in and out month to month with most running battery tenders vs full shore power
I’d wager less if a draw and high turn over of problem boats has kept a disaster from happening
 

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The guy that does bottom cleaning is pretty anal about shutting off breakers on the docks he is working on. We have talked about divers and swimmers drowning from electricity in the water.

I actually put some hanging anodes on the corners of my slip and the side that is closest to a large boat with shore power and a kitchen and AC onboard gets eaten quicker.

I would not be swimming in the marina...
 

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I grew up on the east coast, our boats stayed in the water from April to October. Anti fouling paint was the key, how come nobody uses that here? Shit was toxic, terrible process each year sanding off the old and painting on the new.

Same reason there is no rack storage here... The RV garage. As Dave noted, the level of effort to pull the boat out every day is about the same as trying to keep it clean and from getting destroyed by the sun and the water when you leave it in the water for a month.
 

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The guy that does bottom cleaning is pretty anal about shutting off breakers on the docks he is working on. We have talked about divers and swimmers drowning from electricity in the water.

I actually put some hanging anodes on the corners of my slip and the side that is closest to a large boat with shore power and a kitchen and AC onboard gets eaten quicker.

I would not be swimming in the marina...
When I kept my boat in Downtown Long Beach Marina years ago, we would go floating in the marina drinking beers between boats etc. Now that I think about it, WTF were we thinking! I would never do that now after being educated. Electricity scares the crap out of me.
 

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Used to rent slips for long weekends ... super convenient ... zero stress for everyone ... but ... the trade off is hours and hours of bottom and drive restoration ... also one thing ... bring a hammer with you ... the nails that hold the slip together sometimes stick out and will scratch your boat pretty badly ... so go hammer in all the loose nails first. Yeah ... I liked the peeps at the slips too ... All cool .
 

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In alaska we always lift the motors when you dock unless its a trip to town, but back at the island its always up to prevent the shit from growing, we have to pull a boat every 45-60 days to pressure wash all the growth off, it literally will slow a boat down
 

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I smile every time I drive past your setup... Dock envy! :cool:

15 years of moving around slips down there and finally got a covered one and then adding the lift made it perfect. We tried to get a lift at least 10 years ago but nobody was doing them in Havasu back then. I think you will see more lifts going in along with the attached canopies (if not in a covered slip) We are definitely lucky with the setup we have now.
 

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15 years of moving around slips down there and finally got a covered one and then adding the lift made it perfect. We tried to get a lift at least 10 years ago but nobody was doing them in Havasu back then. I think you will see more lifts going in along with the attached canopies (if not in a covered slip) We are definitely lucky with the setup we have now.
Who has those garages at the end of the marina opening? Is that police and fire?
 

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It also tends to have multiple victims because it’s a bit of a silent killer. Someone sees there loved one struggling and doesn’t realize it’s electricity. Inevitably they jump in to save their loved one and now they too are rendered immobile and then on and on.

2 people died at the docks at Lake Pleasant last summer due to this. The boat had bad wiring or used the wrong shorepower adapter which resulted in current flowing through the water.

 

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2 people died at the docks at Lake Pleasant last summer due to this. The boat had bad wiring or used the wrong shorepower adapter which resulted in current flowing through the water.



That’s an incredibly sad story but totally preventable. I imagine there are dozens of similar stories throughout the country over the last 20+ years.
 

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Who has those garages at the end of the marina opening? Is that police and fire?

The Marina owns those. They used to be a on water repair facility. I have seen the doors open a couple times recently and there was a boat in one of the bays. If you could rent one of those and put in a lift and swamp cooler you would have the best setup on the lake. They could probably get at least a couple grand a month per bay of they rented them.
 

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I guess it's a pretty prevalent problem back east more with freezing and snow and back to 100 degree weather every year. Reeks havoc on wiring. Which makes me worry even more out here since it's not such a problem and not on peoples minds 😬😳


They killed a dude on the Netflix Ozark season one this method intentionally and blamed it on an accident lol
 

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Found out yesterday a retired LHPD is part of the owner family of the marina. Makes sense why the security is pretty good at watching things.
 

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I got gas at 0830 and there were actually more people on the ramp than I though there would be. Must be the morning rush to beat everyone.
 

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The Marina owns those. They used to be a on water repair facility. I have seen the doors open a couple times recently and there was a boat in one of the bays. If you could rent one of those and put in a lift and swamp cooler you would have the best setup on the lake. They could probably get at least a couple grand a month per bay of they rented them.

I’d think a mechanic would murder it in that spot during the summer


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Ended up calling to see the status of the waitlist for the marina. They said we have been on the list since mid 2019, and should get a 20ft slip by this winter. The waitlist for larger boat slips are a few years.

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With a permanent slip, what’s the process at the gate? Sometimes I head out earlier then my family and it would be nice to drop the boat off in the slip the night before. With the slip rentals, I have to wait for the registered owner of the boat to be there. Do they check names at the gate with a permanent slip?
 

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Ended up calling to see the status of the waitlist for the marina. They said we have been on the list since mid 2019, and should get a 20ft slip by this winter. The waitlist for larger boat slips are a few years.

@LowRiver2
With a permanent slip, what’s the process at the gate? Sometimes I head out earlier then my family and it would be nice to drop the boat off in the slip the night before. With the slip rentals, I have to wait for the registered owner of the boat to be there. Do they check names at the gate with a permanent slip?

Got a buddy that is 150th out of 500+ on the waiting list for a dock. He's been waiting for a couple years. I guess there used to be a chick that you could grease the wheels with but supposedly she's gone as is the ability to do such.

When we go there to visit friends or boat with friends we just let them know we're going down to the parking lot and they let us in. Never a problem.
 

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First off. That toon is SHINY!!

Second, I wonder how much help dipping your foot in the water before a kid jumps off the dock would lower the risk of the drowning due to shock.

The safest way to test water for stray currents --- besides pushing your shit-faced buddy or some guy you found on the street in, and lacking the proper meter (Very sensitive amprobe) is by using the BACK of your hand, but not submerged, just touching the surface. The rational behind this is, the stray currents can cause your muscles to involuntarily contract, using the back of your hand will cause your hand to contract AWAY from the water, not into further. This is also the safest way to test wires, again, lacking any other means. Same rational applies, use back of fingers ( You know that tender part that's going to hurt a lot more) so your finger move away from the wire, and not grasp it by contraction.

So the common theme is --- if you have to use your body, test in a manner you can get free if your muscles contract and cramp. If you feel a tingle on the back of your hand, get somebody else to clean your bottom. :rolleyes:

Now I have read, but have not tested this. Putting your multimeter on the lowest AC setting, one probe in the water the other to a GOOD source of ground. Problem with digital multimeters, at those sensitive settings, they can give erroneous readings.
 

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Ended up calling to see the status of the waitlist for the marina. They said we have been on the list since mid 2019, and should get a 20ft slip by this winter. The waitlist for larger boat slips are a few years.

@LowRiver2
With a permanent slip, what’s the process at the gate? Sometimes I head out earlier then my family and it would be nice to drop the boat off in the slip the night before. With the slip rentals, I have to wait for the registered owner of the boat to be there. Do they check names at the gate with a permanent slip?
If you have the slip card you should be able to go right in.
They charge for each actual launch regardless
 

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After really thinking about the hillbilly electrical stuff I see in homes or buildings, I’m really freaked out by Marina electrical.

I can only imagine a breaker tripping and someone disconnecting the ground and telling their buddy hey I fixed it. “Probably a bad breaker there Billy”


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After really thinking about the hillbilly electrical stuff I see in homes or buildings, I’m really freaked out by Marina electrical.

I can only imagine a breaker tripping and someone disconnecting the ground and telling their buddy hey I fixed it. “Probably a bad breaker there Billy”


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A lot of time where you've got larger cruisers, it's the onboard wiring, mismatched and jury rigged cord adaptors or combos, it's not always the Marina wiring itself.
In Havasu Marina, could be houseboats ?
But yes I agree, I was never one to swim around the marinas where we had our ocean boats slipped. But, I saw a lot of folks do it and my diver was cleaning the bottoms monthly. But then he died at around 32 years old from a brain tumor --- something in the water ?????????? :oops:
 

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After really thinking about the hillbilly electrical stuff I see in homes or buildings, I’m really freaked out by Marina electrical.

I can only imagine a breaker tripping and someone disconnecting the ground and telling their buddy hey I fixed it. “Probably a bad breaker there Billy”


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I'm sure Ruth could fix it properly
 

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With a permanent slip, what’s the process at the gate? Sometimes I head out earlier then my family and it would be nice to drop the boat off in the slip the night before. With the slip rentals, I have to wait for the registered owner of the boat to be there. Do they check names at the gate with a permanent slip?

Permanent slip holders have a vehicle tag for entry (hangs on rear view mirror). No launch fees, I can launch as many times as I need to, just pay my monthly slip fees. A sticker is put on the transom of boat like a registration tag that they check for when passing gate, it also identifies what slip your boat is supposed to be in. Security usually checks for tags and stickers several times daily when making their rounds. As a permanent slip holder, the marina office already has boat information and do not require the registered owner to be the one launching the boat to put in slip. no names checked at gate.

lots of times I go down late at night or early in the morning to either launch or retrieve to avoid launch lines and make things easy when we go out for the day.
 
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