Just closed a deal on an F34

[JRider]

I know the F34 is not the most popular of the DCBs but it should work well for the big water with the deep tunnel. I boat in Lake Michigan, Lake Erie and a few other large lakes...really got into the poker runs the last couple years and this should work for me. For the price, hard to beat.

I know the porpoise issue and I am pretty sure I have a simple solution for it. And yes I have seen the vid. I have talked with a few other owners and know that Gordy solved the issue.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Nice ride!!

 

[Joker]

Congratulations on the new boat. :thumbup:

 

[Bigbore500r]

Congrats, i'd gladly deal with the porpoise to roll that baby!
Im curious, there is a video? Where do I find it?

 

[pronstar]

Wow.
Not more can be said LOL

Congrats!!!

 

[downriver34]

Congrats clean!

 

[TCHB]

Nice big toy!

 

[bobbytheboozer]

Thats bad ass! Congratulations on the new hot rod

 

[Chopperman]

Nice boat! I'd rock it!!

 

[JRider]

Congrats, i'd gladly deal with the porpoise to roll that baby!
Im curious, there is a video? Where do I find it?

The before and after:

[video=youtube;ixJCRlXl3YQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJCRlXl3YQ[/video]
[video=youtube;8f5Ac_J_ylc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5Ac_J_ylc&feature=youtu.be[/video]

The story I heard on the top vid is the guy rigged the boat with the motors too far back.

The story on the bottom vid, Gordy did an open bow conversion which added weight to the bow. That boat has 1200 eddie young quad rotors and SCX drives

 

[Bigbore500r]

The before and after
[video=youtube;8f5Ac_J_ylc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f5Ac_J_ylc&feature=youtu.be[/video]
[video=youtube;ixJCRlXl3YQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixJCRlXl3YQ[/video]

The bottom video must have been the before....

Can it be minimized by trim? I can't imagine the hull is designed bad enough to impart a porpoise like that, and still be sold to a customer

 

[Dkahnjob]

Beautiful boat. You should have lots of fun with it.
Congratulations!

 

[JRider]

The bottom video must have been the before....

Can it be minimized by trim? I can't imagine the hull is designed bad enough to impart a porpoise like that, and still be sold to a customer

Yeah, I edited my post and explained that I had heard that the boat was rigged with the motors and batteries too far back.

If you watch the video below Defrees is in the background (1:00 mark) running an F34 that passes behind the Skater...looks like it is running good to me...

[video=youtube;aGt0L_eIvXA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGt0L_eIvXA[/video]

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I know the F34 is not the most popular of the DCBs but it should work well for the big water with the deep tunnel. I boat in Lake Michigan, Lake Erie and a few other large lakes...really got into the poker runs the last couple years and this should work for me. For the price, hard to beat.

I know the porpoise issue and I am pretty sure I have a simple solution for it. And yes I have seen the vid. I have talked with a few other owners and know that Gordy solved the issue.

900+ a side and #6s

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I bid on that boat on ebay up to 83k. I saw that I got outbid and figured that the owner bid it up on sale day and I have been kinda waiting for a second chance offer from them in hopes we could work a deal. Guess I won't be getting that offer! Congrats on the purchase, it should be a great boat!

 

[JRider]

I bid on that boat on ebay up to 83k. I saw that I got outbid and figured that the owner bid it up on sale day and I have been kinda waiting for a second chance offer from them in hopes we could work a deal. Guess I won't be getting that offer! Congrats on the purchase, it should be a great boat!

I have been watching that boat since July, went and looked at it in August. A buddy of mine came over to buy some heads and told me the boat was for sale on ebay 2 days before auction end...so kinda by chance ended up watching the auction. I kinda think it was an inside bid job as well. I sniped it at the 4 second mark. The motors and drives are worth what I paid for the boat.

I was going to throw an offer in after Thanksgiving then have them store it for the winter...glad my buddy built a new barn.

 

[DaytonaBabe]

Gorgeous boat. Congrats!:thumbup:

 

[crzy2bealive]

Great looking boat!!!

 

[JRider]

Great looking boat!!!

Thanks, interior is kinda pathetic compared to new DCBs but it might have work for this coming summer. I also dont care for the dark purple loon looking graphic on the sides. Not sure who came up with that gem. I have some plans for both interior and exterior but they may have to wait until next fall. Priority is to make sure the mechanicals will survive poker runs for the summer.

 

[RitcheyRch]

very nice and congrats

 

[GRADS]

Congratulations, It's an absolutely beautiful boat. With that said, I hope you can straighten out that porpoise. I'm the one who shot the video of it porpoising....I have another video of the same boat running at the Sacramento bridge to bridge and it makes that video look tame.:yikes

 

[RiverDave]

Yeah, I edited my post and explained that I had heard that the boat was rigged with the motors and batteries too far back.

If you watch the video below Defrees is in the background (1:00 mark) running an F34 that passes behind the Skater...looks like it is running good to me...

[video=youtube;aGt0L_eIvXA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGt0L_eIvXA[/video]

Those were bravos.. Not sixes on that boat. When they went to sixes I never heard of one actually ever working right, whether they had the updated bottom or not. They all porpoise and are spooky..

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I have been watching that boat since July, went and looked at it in August. A buddy of mine came over to buy some heads and told me the boat was for sale on ebay 2 days before auction end...so kinda by chance ended up watching the auction. I kinda think it was an inside bid job as well. I sniped it at the 4 second mark. The motors and drives are worth what I paid for the boat.

I was going to throw an offer in after Thanksgiving then have them store it for the winter...glad my buddy built a new barn.

Very cool! I, like you, am not wild on the graphics and interior but the price was where if a guy could make sure the power was proven the rest could be take care of the following winter. Congrats on the new ride!

 

[JRider]

Those were bravos.. Not sixes on that boat. When they went to sixes I never heard of one actually ever working right, whether they had the updated bottom or not. They all porpoise and are spooky..

Dave, I have read about every post on the web about the F34, including yours in which you really bash them. The #6 drives are heavy, bravos are light...weight distribution problem, not so much a hull problem. The #6 drives can work to my advantage, 6 blade low rake wheels with the setback will create a large amount of stern lift. That in conjunction with redistributing some weight inside the boat could take care of a large portion or even rectify the issue. Just moving one battery to the front is what? 75lbs? If needed all 3 could be relocated. The tunnel tab makes no sense except for maybe planing purposes, fix mounting it and going to sponson tabs in the notchs is a better option (if needed). So there is a lot to work with here, given 6 blade wheels at $12k a pair are pricey.

Everyone talks about hull updates on these and I have not seen one different than another with the exception of the mini center sponson...which my boat has. The boats were built both ways, with and without the mini pod. All I see it doing is giving more compression at speed.

 

[Don Johnson]

Congrats! Boat looks super clean, has very nice engine/drive package and DCB rigging. Keep us posted on your progress with her.

 

[blacksockdown]

NiceScore! Well thought out purchase!

 

[Hardly Satisfied]

Congrats , sweet boat

 

[SkiDoc]

That's great that Gordy's boat is so much better. I would enjoy seeing a top speed video of it and how fast 2200hp can power it.

 

[JRider]

That's great that Gordy's boat is so much better. I would enjoy seeing a top speed video of it and how fast 2200hp can power it.

I cant speak for how that would go with an open bow! No offense to gordy but the power in that boat is way beyond what an open bow needs or should ever have.

 

[Outdrive1]

That's great that Gordy's boat is so much better. I would enjoy seeing a top speed video of it and how fast 2200hp can power it.

The Bravo style drives work a lot better on those boats weight wise. I notice it didn't get much above 90. They usually get pretty dicey above that speed. Hopefully that boat gets all the issues sorted sorted out because it looked like a nice boat.

The number six boats have so much weight in the back.

It's not a secret that most of those boats have gotten wet. Andy 01 sold one and the guy died in it soon after. I will never drive or ride in one again.

Good luck.

 

[JRider]

The Bravo style drives work a lot better on those boats weight wise. I notice it didn't get much above 90. They usually get pretty dicey above that speed. Hopefully that boat gets all the issues sorted sorted out because it looked like a nice boat.

The number six boats have so much weight in the back.

It's not a secret that most of those boats have gotten wet. Andy 01 sold one and the guy died in it soon after. I will never drive or ride in one again.

Good luck.

I spoke with a guy today that has a #6 drive 34 figured out. These are for the most part full tunnel, not the center pod lake boats of the west. What comes with that is the outside lean at <70...nothing I am not accustomed too. Hell, twin engine 28 eliminators do it. Not a good time to crank the wheel.

And about getting dicey above 90? Defrees didnt look to dicey running predator...he broke a bravo which is a whole different danger.

 

[Outdrive1]

I spoke with a guy today that has a #6 drive 34 figured out. These are for the most part full tunnel, not the center pod lake boats of the west. What comes with that is the outside lean at <70...nothing I am not accustomed too. Hell, twin engine 28 eliminators do it. Not a good time to crank the wheel.

Tony told me today's props can drastically help those boats. I'd talk to him direct. You can also get someone to grind some weight out of the bow. Those boats are absolute tanks and not built to today's layup schedules. The main problem with them is they are heavier on the front side of the bubble and can never carry the bow. The other alternative is to never carry the bow and drive the boat wet which it will do until you start packing air.

 

[spectracular]

Awesome ride. Get some god running pictures!

 

[Outdrive1]

I spoke with a guy today that has a #6 drive 34 figured out. These are for the most part full tunnel, not the center pod lake boats of the west. What comes with that is the outside lean at <70...nothing I am not accustomed too. Hell, twin engine 28 eliminators do it. Not a good time to crank the wheel.

And about getting dicey above 90? Defrees didnt look to dicey running predator...he broke a bravo which is a whole different danger.

If you have the balls to drive it past the hop like on that video you'll be alright. It's slowing down that you gotta worry about because it's even more violent when you're decelerating.

 

[JRider]

The Bravo style drives work a lot better on those boats weight wise. I notice it didn't get much above 90. They usually get pretty dicey above that speed. Hopefully that boat gets all the issues sorted sorted out because it looked like a nice boat.

The number six boats have so much weight in the back.

It's not a secret that most of those boats have gotten wet. Andy 01 sold one and the guy died in it soon after. I will never drive or ride in one again.

Good luck.

I know 3 boats got wet, and from what I can tell thats not most and it happened in a manner that I already discussed.

 

[BDMar]

These are for the most part full tunnel, not the center pod lake boats of the west. What comes with that is the outside lean at <70...nothing I am not accustomed too. Hell, twin engine 28 eliminators do it.

Actually they don't. But I suppose any boat driven incorrectly could be made to do just about anything.

 

[GRADS]

I've got to find the video I shot of this boat at the bridge to bridge. It was porpoising so bad that the rooster tail would go from completely flat to high enough to almost hit the bottom of the bridge.:yikes

 

[JRider]

Tony told me today's props can drastically help those boats. I'd talk to him direct. You can also get someone to grind some weight out of the bow. Those boats are absolute tanks and not built to today's layup schedules. The main problem with them is they are heavier on the front side of the bubble and can never carry the bow. The other alternative is to never carry the bow and drive the boat wet which it will do until you start packing air.

Ok, why the hell would I grind weight out of the front when I have #6s off the back? If anything that will make it carry the bow...I get the feeling you are talking out your ass here.

 

[JRider]

Actually they don't. But I suppose any boat driven incorrectly could be made to do just about anything.

They do, maybe at a lower speed as they are lighter but, yes they do.

 

[Outdrive1]

Ok, why the hell would I grind weight out of the front when I have #6s off the back? If anything that will make it carry the bow...I get the feeling you are talking out your ass here.

You realize the motors are forward in a six boat? Have you driven one? They absolutely buck because they can't carry the bow. I have no clue why the bravo ones work better but they do. The motors are also on the transom.

 

[Outdrive1]

I know 3 boats got wet, and from what I can tell thats not most and it happened in a manner that I already discussed.

Oh there's more than three. You're not informed. Do you know how many were made btw?

 

[Outdrive1]

They do, maybe at a lower speed as they are lighter but, yes they do.

They bow steer at lower speeds and track all over the place as the front sponsons dig in.


Sorry for all the bad info. You seem to have it figured out. Good luck with your purchase. [emoji106]

 

[JRider]

You realize the motors are forward in a six boat? Have you driven one? They absolutely buck because they can't carry the bow. I have no clue why the bravo ones work better but they do. The motors are also on the transom.

Uh yeah, not on the transom. Driveline

 

[JRider]

Oh there's more than three. You're not informed. Do you know how many were made btw?

According to Dave H, 12 to 14...his exact words to me

 

[BDMar]

They do, maybe at a lower speed as they are lighter but, yes they do.

Sorry, but I've owned one for 10 years and set up many. Yes at 40 mph, but that's not really the discussion her is it? Again, DRIVEN PROPERLY, everywhere above 50, they don't. Period. Good luck.

 

[JRider]

Oh there's more than three. You're not informed. Do you know how many were made btw?

Enlighten me

 

[JRider]

Sorry, but I've owned one for 10 years and set up many. Yes at 40 mph, but that's not really the discussion her is it? Again, DRIVEN PROPERLY, everywhere above 50, they don't. Period. Good luck.

Hell my 28 did the same thing, was not meant to piss in your wheaties.

 

[Outdrive1]

Uh yeah, not on the transom. Driveline
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Well if you stick the weight of an open bow in it. Move the motors forward and keep it under the hop you'll be golden. Lol.

 

[Outdrive1]

Enlighten me

Just go drive one. You'll figure it out.

 

[JRider]

Well if you stick the weight of an open bow in it. Move the motors forward and keep it under the hop you'll be golden. Lol.

typical response of someone with no validity

 

[JRider]

Just go drive one. You'll figure it out.

Maybe Dave H should have?