I've had good luck with MSM, one pretty big dose a week...straight nasty stuff mixed with water. Helps my shoulders and hands, not a damn thing for my neck or back though. All the above are pretty messed up from either trauma or stupidity...or both. Hands have been ID'ed as actual arthitis though.
I think there is no one miracle cure. What works for one person, may not for another. Maybe it's the cause of pain, or the actual body chemistry. If you take it and it seems to help, stick with it. If you try it and it doesn't, try something else.
My orthopedic and my neurosurgeon both said I shouldn't walk again. After that, they said I should try to find a desk job...I sent them both a letter with a pic, me on a roof, roll of single ply pvc on my shoulder. It was one year after they told me those things. I wanted them to see two things, they did really good work, and people are different. They both responded with shock, but very pleased. No one person knows everything, and no two people are the same.I went to an orthopedic sports doctor a year ago for a small tear in my tricep at my elbow and I asked him if any of this shit works. He said no. I’ve done too much weightlifting and my elbows hurt. If you do buy a supp, make sure it has hyaloric acid in it. Supposed to lubricate the joints and a product from GAT made me feel better
I hear beer works pretty good as well as rum and Coke.Its oat bran, no its beet juice, wait its cbd oil, ......
Well HGH just ain't fair .... that stuff is for real. Moods, energy and weight loss all improve. Like getting into a time machine for your body lol.HGH, thank me later.
Wow, very much appreciate you sharing your story, thank you.I've tried those various condroitin products when I was in my late 20's, early 30's. (I'm 57 yrs.) when they first came for my misc. aches and pains from sports injuries and scoliosis of my spine etc. I never found much relief in them. Like many peeps, I didn't research which ones were the best quality I just took whatever I found when I was looking so that likely played a significant role in their effectiveness. I am a working contractor that has busted ass all my life. It's one of my few redeeming qualities. lol
I have had Rheumatoid Artritis for the last 18 yrs. so I'm on a lot of stuff currently as a result. Currently A very high quality CBD oil (non-thc type)
Enbrel, Prednisone and Naproxin. The single biggest contributor to my daily pain from the R.A. was from drinking beer daily. It took me 15 yrs to figure that out. I was hell bent to keep a drinkin cuz.......ya know.....beer is guuuuuuud. lol and a good beer buzzzzzzz... sooo. much. better. right? Damm I miss that shit. ....copius Tec-ahhhhh.. te's and strong IPA'S were the best. At one point several years ago I new I needed to stop because I new I was dramatically exacerbating my pain from the inflammation of R.A. but I wasn't ready to stop yet and continued on consciously hurting from the delicious combo. The more I hurt the more I drank and the more angry and depressed I became, the more I hurt (emotionally) the more I drank, and drank, and......lost respect for myself because I was now, simi-consciously, choosing to hurt myself. (denial really is a BITCH....kinna vicious cycle if ya know what mean. haha) Losing my retirement, the bulk of my const. business through the 2008 recession etc. and low quality daily choices only added to that loss of self respect. My Business, accumulations, property/retirement "was" who/what I was and the only thing that gave me value in my mind. I GAVE up more than "stuff".
But I wasn't ready to give in yet.
Then one day I decided ENOUGH....and finally chose quit. The pain and constant state of physical and emotional pain had finally brought to my knees and I couldn't take it any more, I was done feeling like shit and being an angry asshole as a result. Some here may have noticed I'm still a bit of an azzhole sometimes but I'm not as angry and disrespectful in the manner with which I share my "Giftofazzholeness". I was pleasantly surprised at how well I did with it, the not drinking thing, because at one point back there I didn't think I could, and at that time I was right and "who doesn't like to be right!" right? LOL Occasionally I would have a beer or two and was quickly reminded of why I quit....the pain. Nowadays I can feel the inflammation and resulting pain in my thighs initially/specifically, within the first half of a beer. (Sometimes that can be the first "sip") That does however help to prevent me from having the second or 30pak. Pain will make you do some cra-cra stuff, like quit drinking. haha... Seriously....who does that?......and likes it? I guess there's no shortage of cra-cra still goin on here? lol Actually, next to marring my amazing and exceedingly patient, compasionate and maybe too tolerant wife, it's the second best decision I have ever made.
Anyway, no need for me to carry on here with my "self aggrandizing" diatribe of minutia. The horrible point to my so "eloquently" put story here is, as much as I hate to have to say it, alcohol consumption contributes significantly to our daily pains in whole, largely or in part depending upon how we participate, to what level. I'm sorry to have to put that out there like that, I really am. My choice to...choose something else other than more and more pain has been the best choice for me and life. Now if I can just figure out how to effectively and healthily deal with the rest of life's pains all will be right in the world again. haha
A several people here on the RDP forum have shared their life's journey, struggles etc. and have influenced me to do better, be better etc. and I appreciate that about this forum community. A couple of those people are bhc Vic, Monkeys Wrench and even Grads. (right after he came back from a vacation and hadn't started into a new pfishing expedition, lol)
Give it a try and see for yourself how much alcohol contributes to the level of daily pain for you. Some do better than others with it. You may be surprised (pleasantly) at how much better you feel as a result. It will at least save you some $$$ so in the event you decide after your trial period.......fuck that........I need a or 30 damn beers you will have a nice little pile of cash to buy your favorite pain killer. lol
I hope this book I wrote here(to a simple question of "does condroitin type supp. work" of all things) in some way, some day, when whomever is ready not feel that pain again will help them to make that choice.
Wow....thanks, I truely appreciate that. She is a saint and I will do my best for her too.Wow, very much appreciate you sharing your story, thank you.
I'm happy to hear you found some relief, man, what a tradeoff.
I hear you when you say pain can make a man do some crazy things, so very true!
You have a good woman by your side, take care of her and continue your quest for safe pain relief.
I'm rooting for you, good luck my friend!
I have regular blood tests and have had no issues to this point, been taking it for quite a few years, but then again I’m no picture of health.It worked pretty good for me as well and I used to take them every day until I learned about the negative effects of prolonged use. Might want to look into it if you take them a lot.