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Doesn’t that apply to everything DOGE is looking at? We need to cut 2 trillion. Why shouldn’t everyone be subject to identical scrutiny?

What are his supporters afraid of being found?
You pick. 21 Billion to a Musk, or 21 billion to Stacy Abrams? Go ahead and scrutinize the accomplishments and of both and get back to us on which one would be more fiscally responsible with all our money.
 

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You pick. 21 Billion to a Musk, or 21 billion to Stacy Abrams? Go ahead and scrutinize the accomplishments and of both and get back to us on which one would be more fiscally responsible with all our money.
I’m going to go with neither.

Just because I am objective.
 

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Musk’s companies have been awarded over 21 billion of your and my tax dollars. That isn’t his money, it is taxpayer money.

Maybe DOGE could look there for fraud, waste and abuse?
I would be happy to do this. Let's look at the commercial resupply to the ISS... When they retired shuttle, Musk signed up to produce a rocket and capsule to handle resupply. Around 2005, NASA contracted $400m for development and 2 test flights in 2010 and 2012. By 2008 the program was far enough along that NASA signed a contract for 12 flights at like 130m a flight. SpaceX delivered 23 flights by 2020 when original Dragon was retired.

In 2014, NASA went looking for a manned system to go to iss. Of course, NASA went looking to the most experienced, right? Actually, they went to Boeing, and paid $4.6b for 2 successful test flights, and 6 operational missions. They also paid almost 300m for "flexibilities" and gave Boeing almost $400m to rent seats on Russian spacecraft because of delays. Operational flights were supposed to cost something like 350m per flight. As of today, the first unmanned test flight did not get to the Iss. The second got there but with multiple thruster failures. The first manned test got there but with so many failures they elected to leave the astronauts in space for a year instead of risking their return. That system has not been certified, and probably won't be certified. The 6 operational missions will not happen.

By comparison, NASA also awarded Spacex a contract for 2.6b to build a manned capsule for ISS. Spacex successfully launched unmanned in 2019, manned in 2020, and has now signed multiple contracts to continue sending crew missions. 9 so far, 10 is on the pad in Florida. Spacex also redesigned the cargo capsule to carry more at lower cost, now like 110m per launch. NASA did get smart and award Spacex the contract to design a dragon that will carry only engines, to deorbit the ISS around 2030. That will be right around 900m for a 1 time use vehicle.

I mean, sure. There is probably fat to be cut, but is SpaceX where the real fat is?
 

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I would be happy to do this. Let's look at the commercial resupply to the ISS... When they retired shuttle, Musk signed up to produce a rocket and capsule to handle resupply. Around 2005, NASA contracted $400m for development and 2 test flights in 2010 and 2012. By 2008 the program was far enough along that NASA signed a contract for 12 flights at like 130m a flight. SpaceX delivered 23 flights by 2020 when original Dragon was retired.

In 2014, NASA went looking for a manned system to go to iss. Of course, NASA went looking to the most experienced, right? Actually, they went to Boeing, and paid $4.6b for 2 successful test flights, and 6 operational missions. They also paid almost 300m for "flexibilities" and gave Boeing almost $400m to rent seats on Russian spacecraft because of delays. Operational flights were supposed to cost something like 350m per flight. As of today, the first unmanned test flight did not get to the Iss. The second got there but with multiple thruster failures. The first manned test got there but with so many failures they elected to leave the astronauts in space for a year instead of risking their return. That system has not been certified, and probably won't be certified. The 6 operational missions will not happen.

By comparison, NASA also awarded Spacex a contract for 2.6b to build a manned capsule for ISS. Spacex successfully launched unmanned in 2019, manned in 2020, and has now signed multiple contracts to continue sending crew missions. 9 so far, 10 is on the pad in Florida. Spacex also redesigned the cargo capsule to carry more at lower cost, now like 110m per launch. NASA did get smart and award Spacex the contract to design a dragon that will carry only engines, to deorbit the ISS around 2030. That will be right around 900m for a 1 time use vehicle.

I mean, sure. There is probably fat to be cut, but is SpaceX where the real fat is?
Yes, the entire program.

We are spending 2 trillion more per year than we bring in. People are going to lose their social security that they paid into, inflation is really hurting the average family.

We need to cut wasteful spending, and I can’t think of an easier multi billion dollar program to cut than floating in space or going to the moon and/or mars.

We are broke.
 

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Yes, the entire program.

We are spending 2 trillion more per year than we bring in. People are going to lose their social security that they paid into, inflation is really hurting the average family.

We need to cut wasteful spending, and I can’t think of an easier multi billion dollar program to cut than floating in space or going to the moon and/or mars.

We are broke.
If you want Social Security funded, you need more high paying jobs in the USA. The whole thing is MLM, so you constantly need to add new payers to pay for the current recipients.

Tarrifs might do that. Shipping jobs and tooling and factories to Vietnam will not.

Or we could return Social Security to the program it was when it was new.
 

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She's all yours. No fight from me.
If Stacy’s mom has got it going on Stacy might not be that bad. LOL. by the way, our son’s friends used to sing the song with our son’s name in it. They thought the wife was one of the hottest mothers of their group. LOL.
 

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If you want Social Security funded, you need more high paying jobs in the USA. The whole thing is MLM, so you constantly need to add new payers to pay for the current recipients.

Tarrifs might do that. Shipping jobs and tooling and factories to Vietnam will not.

Or we could return Social Security to the program it was when it was new.
I agree we need more high paying jobs.

So why are we using tariffs specifically designed to bring back low paying jobs at the expense of losing high paying jobs due to the loss of export markets?
 

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You pick. 21 Billion to a Musk, or 21 billion to Stacy Abrams? Go ahead and scrutinize the accomplishments and of both and get back to us on which one would be more fiscally responsible with all our money.

This morning Glenn Beck is going crazy over this Abrams scandal and calls it way beyond "Watergate" and the entire way it was rushed through. "OBlamer" holdovers have been running our Country for the past "4" Years, and must be brought to justice.

His "Dream" to transform America- This is what we received.
 

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This Country has put up with this "SQUAD" Bullshit" for far too long and it is High Time for them to not only get put in their place, but to do it Openly for the entire Country to watch and finally realize that you can eith be a respectful human with manners and obey the way we conduct business here or suffer the consequences in a quick and severe manner.

This disrespecting out Country, Flag, Constitution and it's Citizens must change and now is the perfect time. "Oblamer is History and his Trash is just that, Garbage to be Thrown Out!!
 

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This Country has put up with this "SQUAD" Bullshit" for far too long and it is High Time for them to not only get put in their place, but to do it Openly for the entire Country to watch and finally realize that you can eith be a respectful human with manners and obey the way we conduct business here or suffer the consequences in a quick and severe manner.

This disrespecting out Country, Flag, Constitution and it's Citizens must change and now is the perfect time. "Oblamer is History and his Trash is just that, Garbage to be Thrown Out!!

Not until some of these America-hating commies are cuffed and stuffed, this will continue..
 

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Idiocracy is really coming true.


The "OLD SCHOOL" (PELOSI), was intimidated and scared by AOC & Her "SQUAD" and as time went on and they became more & more powerful and out of control, they got their Ass destroyed in the Election and now the Party is Imploding without any Leadership with the Radical Segment running Wild and nothing to Reign them in. There are Radical people destroying Tesla Automobiles and there has not been one word from this Party against such actions.
 

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Delusions of Grandeur, prime examples of pettiness, lack of common sense or awareness. Cowardice and plain stupidity. Motor Mouth ain't on the House floor, protected from her lack of intelligence on full display.

An analogy, or allegorical story is hereby called for. Stand back observe and analyze.

So: It's like She's on the course, first hole Whack! Par 4, not bad. Her group finishes up. Entourage in tow, they head off to the 2nd hole, a difficult PAR 3, followed by the Gallery. All of a sudden pandemonium strikes! Nature attacks! As a swarm of bee's has intercepted the Cortez group after finishing the first hole and approaching the second! The Gallery flees, screaming! TV feed cuts out.
In the ensuing crisis, news reports emerge that AOC has been stung on the golf course: "AOC has been stung multiple times at the City Golf course charity event, between the first and second holes. She is skillfully rescued by her faithful Entourage, and is rushed to the Medical Facility on Site." "More news at 6:00."

The old Doc, veteran of many years of practice, treated the poor Boston Bartender turned Cattle call Congresswoman, and afterwards proceeded to offer AOC some valuable advice.

"Well you got lucky this time. I'll give you something for the pain. But first of all, your stance is waay too wide...
 
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There are some that are claiming she’s a republican plant.
She’s a gift to the GOP



I believe she is a Die Hard Born RACIST Gutter Rat that has received some Traction from her Followers that have been promised "Freebies" and "?" and in the MOLD of Maxine Waters she is going Live and Die with the Hate B.S. . The pathetic Party is in such disaray there is no direction and the Radicals have increased their Same Old Chant that will be on Trial in "2026"
 

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I believe she is a Die Hard Born RACIST Gutter Rat that has received some Traction from her Followers that have been promised "Freebies" and "?" and in the MOLD of Maxine Waters she is going Live and Die with the Hate B.S. . The pathetic Party is in such disaray there is no direction and the Radicals have increased their Same Old Chant that will be on Trial in "2026"
And thats what we like about her.
It’s like watching one of the employees at the fireworks stand light a smoke.
The show is just starting.
 

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And thats what we like about her.
It’s like watching one of the employees at the fireworks stand light a smoke.
The show is just starting.


The problem I see is these "DEM" Ghetto's are like California and the way they Vote makes No Sense, but it Elects TRASH.
 

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I believe she is a Die Hard Born RACIST Gutter Rat that has received some Traction from her Followers that have been promised "Freebies" and "?" and in the MOLD of Maxine Waters she is going Live and Die with the Hate B.S. . The pathetic Party is in such disaray there is no direction and the Radicals have increased their Same Old Chant that will be on Trial in "2026"
Sounds about right. She put on her well mannered face just long enough to get elected. Now she has jumped on the TDS train and her ghetto take on things excites her followers. I'd wager her act will continue to and pretty soon she'll be wearing Fubu and Juicy sweatpants to work. Seen it a billion times now.
 

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Sorry, If I missed it in here, She called Texas Governor who is Wheel Chair Bound, "Hot Wheels" she is such an Embarrassment how do you respond to Disrespectful Comments as this.😕


Finally there is Back-Lash and threats of "Censure", for whatever that would mean. She is explaining in a poor manner, and refuses to Apologize. The "Classic" was when asked what legislative Bills she is working on she replied None, and her Goal in Washington is to Attack Republicans and anything they present or represent.

in Other Words, she is "WORTHLESS" 🤔
 

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Sorry, If I missed it in here, She called Texas Governor who is Wheel Chair Bound, "Hot Wheels" she is such an Embarrassment how do you respond to Disrespectful Comments as this.😕
She’s making it in to a bigger deal than it should be.
Whats so hard about saying I’m sorry and moving on. Some folks just can’t do it.

Sorry if I called her ghetto. See, its not hard.
 

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She’s making it in to a bigger deal than it should be.
Whats so hard about saying I’m sorry and moving on. Some folks just can’t do it.

Sorry if I called her ghetto. See, its not hard.


NEVER HAPPEN!! She will continue this Trash and IMO, increase the intensity until she Crashes. Her Party will not Reign he in, so it must be the "HOUSE", and even then doubtful. I prey she has a Face To Face Run-In with Marjorie Taylor Greene, and with both in the House it is inevitable 👍 When the Window Opens I want to Place My Bet on "MTG":cool:
 

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I don’t see the democrats doing much to improve their 27% favorability.
And backing up this idiot is further proof that TDS is a bigger priority.
 

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I don’t see the democrats doing much to improve their 27% favorability.
And backing up this idiot is further proof that TDS is a bigger priority.



President Trump's biggest problem is these Court's Resistance to his Presidential Orders. The necessary removal of these "Oblamer" radical Judges is imperitive to the Total success of his administration.
 

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Sounds about right. She put on her well mannered face just long enough to get elected. Now she has jumped on the TDS train and her ghetto take on things excites her followers. I'd wager her act will continue to and pretty soon she'll be wearing Fubu and Juicy sweatpants to work. Seen it a billion times now.


RIGHT!!, she is all "DOLLED"Up and attempting to Look "Classy" and the "Ghetto Rat" should appear very soon, If not already.
 

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Jazzy Crocket is an actress in a play. She will play whatever role is required to get paid.

Her father is a minister, likely the source of her theatrical acumen. She went to a private Catholic HS and attended a private university. She is well connected to the correct kind of Democrats. My suspicion is her whole life has been a lesson in grift.

There is no magic, just an act.
 
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