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Precision strikes on military targets with warnings ahead of time. No big deal.
It bothers me that we fund Israel (I completely understand Israel going thermonuclear war against Hamas) but how many billions of dollars did the US (Obama) send to Iran?

I am going to pour another glass of wine and ignore the news and any social media. (I probably wont.)
 

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They just said he will not be making a statement, and that he just landed in Delaware, What a POS
 

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It bothers me that we fund Israel (I completely understand Israel going thermonuclear war against Hamas) but how many billions of dollars did the US (Obama) send to Iran?

I am going to pour another glass of wine and ignore the news and any social media. (I probably wont.)
It bothers me we fund anybody.
When we are in the shitter here.
Wine ain’t cutting It.
Vodka for me.
 

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It bothers me that we fund Israel (I completely understand Israel going thermonuclear war against Hamas) but how many billions of dollars did the US (Obama) send to Iran?

I am going to pour another glass of wine and ignore the news and any social media. (I probably wont.)
Pallets of money, like loaded into planes with a forklift.:mad::mad:
 

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The adults are in control now...that was the promise almost 4 years ago and the results of this lie and follow on incompentent leadership now has the world closer to a full scale world war than ever. Russia, Iran, North Korea and China will have zero qualms squashing the soft ass US if this current administration stays in place. Your vote matters now more than ever.

I hope Israel levels Iran, and I hope the current dipshits in power are held accountable for the billions of dollars they handed Iran that funded the killing of 1200 innocent people last year. I am not Jewish our a hard core Christian, but what happened to Israel cannot happen again and every person involved needs to be deaded in a very barbaric way, it's the only thing these barbarians understand. Brutality.
 

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Attack is over, will be interesting the targets, Russian radar opening the sky's? Went through Syria without effort. U.s paying for what we ourselves should have taken care of after barracks bombing, iran hostages, Palestinian hijacking. While obama/ Clinton changed lyibia regime, killed u.s. citizens, gave billions to all takers, obama got noble peace prize for within 6 weeks of becoming president and half the idiots of this country voted for that cocksucker, isrial deserves credit from the world.
 

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Precision strikes on military targets with warnings ahead of time. No big deal.
They usually send out a warning, so all civilians are clear of the area, just 30,000 had no reception and their 20,000 kids, well they were just collateral damage, no big deal.
 

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Then maybe the civilians should put the terrorist in a place where Isreal can blow them up without hitting the civilians. It goes both ways. The civilians let them setup in their schools and hospitals. If they weren't helping them, the civilians would leave as soon as they setup
 

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Don’t be Naive, your news sources are all Jewish owned establishments. We’ve heard that same rhetoric for decades.

If I was a betting man, I say one is a clear victor, just wait till 2024 final score.
 

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Then maybe the civilians should put the terrorist in a place where Isreal can blow them up without hitting the civilians. It goes both ways. The civilians let them setup in their schools and hospitals. If they weren't helping them, the civilians would leave as soon as they setup
When the populace is unarmed, the rules are made by the armed...in their case, the terrorists and or the government. Probably the same for the people in Mexico, corrupt officials and drug cartels make the rules. Hard to make a play with your bare hands against that type of authority.
 

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When the populace is unarmed, the rules are made by the armed...in their case, the terrorists and or the government. Probably the same for the people in Mexico, corrupt officials and drug cartels make the rules. Hard to make a play with your bare hands against that type of authority.


I'm sure they could leave and if enough people pushback, then they can't use the civilians anymore.
 

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Looks like Iran has some thinking to do, if they even have time, before the next air strike.

I see an imminent leadership change happening in Iran.
 
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I'm sure they could leave and if enough people pushback, then they can't use the civilians anymore.
Sounds easy enough, but how so? Leave your home country with little to your name, and nowhere to go, probably not the easiest. The only way the citizenry could effectively push back, would be if an outside country were to arm and fund a resistance. For some reason though, with Iran, Obama paid them, and Biden freed up their funds.
 

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Israel is going to go whole hog before Trump gets in. He will do his best to stop the killing in the Mid East and the Ukraine. No wars, one of his talking points. Can see him curtail money and arms to both countries. There is no love for the muslim terrorists but come January 2025 it will be all his fault according to every media outlet in the world. Lets hope Israel finishes the job before 2025.
 

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It bothers me that we fund Israel (I completely understand Israel going thermonuclear war against Hamas) but how many billions of dollars did the US (Obama) send to Iran?

I am going to pour another glass of wine and ignore the news and any social media. (I probably wont.)
I guess you don’t realize how much Israel does for the US. I’m guessing you support hamas
 

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They usually send out a warning, so all civilians are clear of the area, just 30,000 had no reception and their 20,000 kids, well they were just collateral damage, no big deal.
Not our fault the terrorist hide behind regular people in their homes Israel does its best to only go after the bad people Israel could’ve wiped out Gaza could’ve wiped out all these neighboring countries if the US did not hold them back, but they have restraint. They should’ve gone after Hamas the day after October 7.
 

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Don’t be Naive, your news sources are all Jewish owned establishments. We’ve heard that same rhetoric for decades.

If I was a betting man, I say one is a clear victor, just wait till 2024 final score.
Your numbers may tell your story, but not the whole story. First off, why would I accept your numbers without source links so I can go down the rabbit hole? Second, where are the last 3+ years? And, finally, If a terrorist organization had invaded the U.S. and taken a couple hundred hostages, I would hope our military would do everything they could to wipe them out. Collateral damage sucks, but sometimes it’s unavoidable. That’s the horror of war. Perhaps Harris/biden shouldn’t have let Iran off the hook, or given them the cash, and all of this might have been avoided.
 
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Sounds easy enough, but how so? Leave your home country with little to your name, and nowhere to go, probably not the easiest. The only way the citizenry could effectively push back, would be if an outside country were to arm and fund a resistance. For some reason though, with Iran, Obama paid them, and Biden freed up their funds.
Well we tried that. And look what it did.
 

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I’m curious what they do? Not saying they don’t, they should, they’re the largest recipient of our foreign aid…….by far.
In my opinion, they can be the strongest force in the area for helping the US with it's goals in the area. The problem is, for that to happen, the leaders of both countries need to have a strong relationship. The past 4 years, our leader has kneecapped that relationship, and helped the enemies of Israel.

This is just my opinion. It may be off, but in the past we have trained together, used their bases and shared Intel. I am not pro-Israel, nor pro-Hamas or whoever. I just see things spiraling into a crater...mostly because our once strong country has fallen to crap in DC.
 

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In my opinion, they can be the strongest force in the area for helping the US with it's goals in the area. The problem is, for that to happen, the leaders of both countries need to have a strong relationship. The past 4 years, our leader has kneecapped that relationship, and helped the enemies of Israel.

This is just my opinion. It may be off, but in the past we have trained together, used their bases and shared Intel. I am not pro-Israel, nor pro-Hamas or whoever. I just see things spiraling into a crater...mostly because our once strong country has fallen to crap in DC.

I see the problem as their goals in the area are not always necessarily our goals. They want them to be and why we’re always in shit over there.

I know you know, but I have to reiterate, that there’s no way in hell that the most surveilled border in the world and best intelligence agency around was surprised by an attack from flying lawnmowers and scooters, AND it was allowed to proceed for five hours? Total and complete bullshit!!

Israel needed their narrative to execute what they’ve always wanted and they got it, while we get to fund the majority of it. War machine loves it for sure.

And before you all start clutching your pearls up here in the lounge, I don’t give a rat’s ass what Israel does to those goat fuckers over there, just do it on your own dime.
 

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Don’t be Naive, your news sources are all Jewish owned establishments. We’ve heard that same rhetoric for decades.

If I was a betting man, I say one is a clear victor, just wait till 2024 final score.
Nice reference.... Are you sure you don't just want to quote Hamas or Iran?

They are about as reliable and "honest" as the UN right now. Talk about a bias organization.
 

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Nice reference.... Are you sure you don't just want to quote Hamas or Iran?

They are about as reliable and "honest" as the UN right now. Talk about a bias organization.
I'll wait for your more reliable source.
 

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I see the problem as their goals in the area are not always necessarily our goals. They want them to be and why we’re always in shit over there.

I know you know, but I have to reiterate, that there’s no way in hell that the most surveilled border in the world and best intelligence agency around was surprised by an attack from flying lawnmowers and scooters, AND it was allowed to proceed for five hours? Total and complete bullshit!!

Israel needed their narrative to execute what they’ve always wanted and they got it, while we get to fund the majority of it. War machine loves it for sure.

And before you all start clutching your pearls up here in the lounge, I don’t give a rat’s ass what Israel does to those goat fuckers over there, just do it on your own dime.
The whole October 7th deal is shady at best. This is the same government that took out a nuclear scientist with a remote mounted machine gun placed in a cargo truck...loaded with boxes...sprayed the vehicle, and managed to only kill their target. His wife was in the passenger seat. James Bond level, and I think still beats the pager bombings.

I am completely fine with Israel's goals not being the same as ours. They are their own country, and should look out for their own best interests. Our country, however, shouldn't fund their, or any other country's best interests.
 

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The whole October 7th deal is shady at best. This is the same government that took out a nuclear scientist with a remote mounted machine gun placed in a cargo truck...loaded with boxes...sprayed the vehicle, and managed to only kill their target. His wife was in the passenger seat. James Bond level, and I think still beats the pager bombings.

I am completely fine with Israel's goals not being the same as ours. They are their own country, and should look out for their own best interests. Our country, however, shouldn't fund their, or any other country's best interests.
If their interests align with ours, and they’re doing the grunt work…I have no issues funding it. If we went there ourselves and did the same thing, it would cost us more and we’d be less effective (because red tape)
 
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