Is bow riding like in pic legal in Arizona ?

[BlockHead]

I saw this pic of a boat at Lake Of The Ozarks and wondered if that's legal ? Here or there ?

 

[wsuwrhr]

She has a bow rail. More importantly are there enough life jackets aboard?

 

[MSum661]

She has a bow rail. More importantly are there enough life jackets aboard?

I don't know Brian...but those People from Missouri know how to motor boat party like Rock Stars.

 

[OCMerrill]

Only at wake-less speed.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Only at wake-less speed.

Yea, that too.

 

[wsuwrhr]

I don't know Brian...but those People from Missouri know how to motor boat party like Rock Stars.

I would be doing some motorboatin.

 

[Grandpa mac]

I was once told that California does not allow bow or transom riding at any speed,but I'm AZ registered and never looked it up. Could still matter I guess if I'm running the California half of Devils Elbow and stopped by San B sheriff. Anybody know?

 

[Bigbore500r]

I wouldn't bow ride at any speed in havasu, that's a LEO stop for sure

 

[TPC]

I wouldn't bow ride at any speed in havasu, that's a LEO stop for sure

There it is.
If the boat is underway expect to get stopped.
Then, a vest count with the vests on the passengers.
They have to fit.
Then,, probably a breath test.

 

[spectras only]

They're riding on the deck [ above the cabin ] not the bow.Riding on at the stem or stern is what could be an issue .That Searay just plowing at idle speed and has big azz railing that would exempt it from inspection by the LEO IMHO.No different than standing up at the bow railing of a slow poke trawler cruiser.
I like the Italian version where the chicks spreading on the rear hatch cushions better.

 

[max930]

I don't know about AZ, but in Canada and believe Washington State they can get you for going over the capacity on the manufacture plate.

 

[Singleton]

I don't know about AZ, but in Canada and believe Washington State they can get you for going over the capacity on the manufacture plate.

Same in Az and Ca. However not all boats have plates

 

[wsuwrhr]

They're riding on the deck [ above the cabin ]
I like the Italian version where the chicks spreading on the rear hatch cushions better.

This post is totally worthless scientifically.

 

[wsuwrhr]

I don't know about AZ, but in Canada and believe Washington State they can get you for going over the capacity on the manufacture plate.

I doubt that vessel is at or near capacity.

 

[wsuwrhr]

That has to be a 50 foot plus yacht.

 

[Chili Palmer]

I was once told that California does not allow bow or transom riding at any speed,but I'm AZ registered and never looked it up. Could still matter I guess if I'm running the California half of Devils Elbow and stopped by San B sheriff. Anybody know?

We got pulled over one time up by Parker Dam. We were floating with my wife laying on the engine cover when we got close to the shore and I started the boat and idled to the middle and on came the blue lights. He did the requisite checks - life jackets, registration, fire extinguisher, etc. He let us off with a warning since I was only idling. No riding on the bow or transom while the boat is under way - that includes idling.

 

[OCMerrill]

We got pulled over one time up by Parker Dam. We were floating with my wife laying on the engine cover when we got close to the shore and I started the boat and idled to the middle and on came the blue lights. He did the requisite checks - life jackets, registration, fire extinguisher, etc. He let us off with a warning since I was only idling. No riding on the bow or transom while the boat is under way - that includes idling.

I want to clarify my earlier statement. The BOAT pictured is legal to ride as pictured at wakeless speed unless there is some lake/river specific rule. If you have a boat that is not designed to seat people on the bow (like 99% of all closed bow boats at the river) then its illegal.

Floating is also considered underway.

It does however draw unwanted attention.

 

[BoatCop]

Bow rail , or not, it is illegal at above wakeless speed.


5-341. Negligent operation of watercraft or water skis; restriction in operation of watercraft; violation; classification

A. No person shall operate a watercraft in a careless, reckless or negligent manner.

B. A person shall not operate a watercraft while allowing a person to ride on the gunwales, the transom or the decked over bow of a watercraft propelled by machinery operating in excess of wakeless speed except if:

1. That portion of the watercraft was designed and constructed for the purpose of carrying passengers at all speeds.
2. The watercraft is being maneuvered for anchoring, mooring or casting off moorings.

 

[HST4ME]

Bow rail , or not, it is illegal at above wakeless speed.


5-341. Negligent operation of watercraft or water skis; restriction in operation of watercraft; violation; classification

A. No person shall operate a watercraft in a careless, reckless or negligent manner.

B. A person shall not operate a watercraft while allowing a person to ride on the gunwales, the transom or the decked over bow of a watercraft propelled by machinery operating in excess of wakeless speed except if:

1. That portion of the watercraft was designed and constructed for the purpose of carrying passengers at all speeds.
2. The watercraft is being maneuvered for anchoring, mooring or casting off moorings.

You people can't have any fun out there.

 

[MSum661]

I saw this pic of a boat at Lake Of The Ozarks and wondered if that's legal ? Here or there ?

Missouri Law states:

Riding on the Bow, Deck, or Gunwale is allowing passengers to ride on the bow, gunwale, transom, seat backs, seats on raised decks, or any other place where there may be a chance of falling overboard, unless the vessel has adequate guards or railings. Guards or railings must be at least 6 inches high (not to exceed 18 inches in height) to be considered adequate.

 

[707dog]

good topic i seen a few times sunday up here on the delta, one was a nice size center console cruising along around 25- 30mph and there was 3-4 kids sitting on gunnels hanging on to the rails with there legs/ feet hanging over...we all commented that all it takes is to cross a nice size wake and it would too easy to loose a kid out the side...SMH...

i got a warning a while back when the wife came back to the dock to pick me up i jumped on the bow and was walking across the deck as she was backing out, see doo LEO pulled up on the side let me know it was not safe to do that underway.

 

[BoatCop]

You people can't have any fun out there.

It's all fun until someone loses their arms, legs, lives.............

Ask me how I know.

 

[H20 Toie]

Who cares
Li kit bastard

 

[RiverDave]

I saw this pic of a boat at Lake Of The Ozarks and wondered if that's legal ? Here or there ? View attachment 487896

Bow rail , or not, it is illegal at above wakeless speed.


5-341. Negligent operation of watercraft or water skis; restriction in operation of watercraft; violation; classification

A. No person shall operate a watercraft in a careless, reckless or negligent manner.

B. A person shall not operate a watercraft while allowing a person to ride on the gunwales, the transom or the decked over bow of a watercraft propelled by machinery operating in excess of wakeless speed except if:

1. That portion of the watercraft was designed and constructed for the purpose of carrying passengers at all speeds.
2. The watercraft is being maneuvered for anchoring, mooring or casting off moorings.

Missouri Law states:

Riding on the Bow, Deck, or Gunwale is allowing passengers to ride on the bow, gunwale, transom, seat backs, seats on raised decks, or any other place where there may be a chance of falling overboard, unless the vessel has adequate guards or railings. Guards or railings must be at least 6 inches high (not to exceed 18 inches in height) to be considered adequate.

BoatCop could probably clarify further, but I'm pretty sure bow riding / transom riding is illegal in CA even at Wakeless speeds.

RD

 

[rebelmark75]

good topic i seen a few times sunday up here on the delta, one was a nice size center console cruising along around 25- 30mph and there was 3-4 kids sitting on gunnels hanging on to the rails with there legs/ feet hanging over...we all commented that all it takes is to cross a nice size wake and it would too easy to loose a kid out the side...SMH...

i got a warning a while back when the wife came back to the dock to pick me up i jumped on the bow and was walking across the deck as she was backing out, see doo LEO pulled up on the side let me know it was not safe to do that underway.

I saw the same boat! Fucking nuts! One of those kids fall overboard and they would get chopped up like a diced onion when the prop hit them. Some people are fucking idiots....

 

[JCUMV]

^ Well hold on. I want to make sure I understand. I think I'm seeing from BoatCop that it's allowed given the boat has a bowrail and is traveling at a wakeless speed. This is important for me to understand because I'm under the impression that my two kids can ride on the bow of my day cruiser (in lifejackets) assuming we're at a wakeless speed (ie the Channel at Havasu). This is legal, correct?

Our boat:

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

Bow rail , or not, it is illegal at above wakeless speed.


5-341. Negligent operation of watercraft or water skis; restriction in operation of watercraft; violation; classification

A. No person shall operate a watercraft in a careless, reckless or negligent manner.

B. A person shall not operate a watercraft while allowing a person to ride on the gunwales, the transom or the decked over bow of a watercraft propelled by machinery operating in excess of wakeless speed except if:

1. That portion of the watercraft was designed and constructed for the purpose of carrying passengers at all speeds.
2. The watercraft is being maneuvered for anchoring, mooring or casting off moorings.

Nice, there's a loop hole. " I was attempting to set the anchor, above wakeless speed"

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

^ Well hold on. I want to make sure I understand. I think I'm seeing from BoatCop that it's allowed given the boat has a bowrail and is traveling at a wakeless speed. This is important for me to understand because I'm under the impression that my two kids can ride on the bow of my day cruiser (in lifejackets) assuming we're at a wakeless speed (ie the Channel at Havasu). This is legal, correct?

Our boat:

You are legal a wakeless speed with bow riders, yet the liability of being viewed a careless/reckless operator, and a bad parent, will still follow you.

 

[JCUMV]

^ Lol. Well that I can live with