Interceptor Custom Boats - HAVASU!

[Brokeboatin221]

I didn’t see an auto flush urinal in the bathroom, come on man how does this place even run……….. . Nice looking shop hope it works out for them! Thank you Dave for sharing info with us on top of everything else you do sir!

 

[retaocleg]

anyone not trusting ICB yet for gel repair is a fool......get in while you still can

 

[RiverDave]

I find it to be interesting that so many owners/GM's overlook AC in a shop. When I ran a manufacturing shop in Florida one of the first things that I did was to get the owner to install AC. I showed him the numbers of what happens on different days and even from morning to afternoon based on temperatures. It was clear to see that when it got hot, production slowed.
Now that I had the proof I provided the explanation. The human body will protect itself at all cost. If it detects an overheat condition it goes into protect mode and slows body functions. This is not something that the guys have control over as it is an automatic function.
Secondly, the guys will have an attitude and rightfully so. It's freaking hot so they spend more time in front of a fan, drinking water or in a lot of cases, energy drinks.
Drinking lots of liquid also requires what? Bathrooms, and with 9 or 10 guys and only one toilet, there was a lot of time lost due to people waiting to use it.
By installing AC we reduced time lost due to waiting on toilet time. Increased production because guys could physically work at pace without overheating. What I felt was the biggest win was the morale. The guys felt like they were important and appreciated. This changed the way they worked and simply produced at a faster rate and when I brought new guys in there was peer pressure to maintain that rate. Along with the build books I made for each model of boat, new guys were able to get to speed much quicker with less direct supervision.
That was the point when the owner let me completely redesign the shop, SOP's and inventory control. We went from build 24 boats the year before I got there to 36 boats the year I took over. Man those were fun times....

truth

 

[petie6464]

I find it to be interesting that so many owners/GM's overlook AC in a shop. When I ran a manufacturing shop in Florida one of the first things that I did was to get the owner to install AC. I showed him the numbers of what happens on different days and even from morning to afternoon based on temperatures. It was clear to see that when it got hot, production slowed.
Now that I had the proof I provided the explanation. The human body will protect itself at all cost. If it detects an overheat condition it goes into protect mode and slows body functions. This is not something that the guys have control over as it is an automatic function.
Secondly, the guys will have an attitude and rightfully so. It's freaking hot so they spend more time in front of a fan, drinking water or in a lot of cases, energy drinks.
Drinking lots of liquid also requires what? Bathrooms, and with 9 or 10 guys and only one toilet, there was a lot of time lost due to people waiting to use it.
By installing AC we reduced time lost due to waiting on toilet time. Increased production because guys could physically work at pace without overheating. What I felt was the biggest win was the morale. The guys felt like they were important and appreciated. This changed the way they worked and simply produced at a faster rate and when I brought new guys in there was peer pressure to maintain that rate. Along with the build books I made for each model of boat, new guys were able to get to speed much quicker with less direct supervision.
That was the point when the owner let me completely redesign the shop, SOP's and inventory control. We went from build 24 boats the year before I got there to 36 boats the year I took over. Man those were fun times....

With 9-10 guys you produced 36 boats in a year. What type of boat was that?

 

[retaocleg]

anyone who hasn't built boats in the havasu heat doesn't know.........swamp coolers work great till about june 21, and after sept 15........ it blows.......
you come in at 4 or 5 and it is already 85-95 degress in the shop until about sept 15............and because most use swamp coolers, humidity is 60-90 percent...........depending if it rained the night before or a system came over, but never rained........that is the starting temp........only goes up.......and with gel and lam, you dont have the luxury of pacing yourself........gel times dont give a shit.........you gotta move your ass........constant drizzle of sweat like a busted pipe...........with that goes patience, which is needed...........rigging, upholstery, wood, and others don't have to heed gel times(they are still sweating tho).......whoever decided it was a great idea to start building boats here, didnt start with 30 foot deck boats, i can assure you..........that has something to do with not being able to get talent from other parts of the country.........

when i started training my son in law, first thing i said, gotta get a guy used to the heat, cal guys wont last.........been doing this here long enough to see them come and go.............usually about july, they bailout.......gotta be used to it.......matt has a chance to

rant semi-over!

 

[BHC Vic]

anyone not trusting ICB yet for gel repair is a fool......get in while you still can

You’re making me want to get an appointment for some beach rash

 

[RiverDave]

With 9-10 guys you produced 36 boats in a year. What type of boat was that?

They were Nortech.. the way their operations are setup are way different than here. They have buildings that only build certain models of boats and crews that focus in on certain parts etc.. very impressive. I did a factory tour awhile back. There is a thread on here.

 

[petie6464]

They were Nortech.. the way their operations are setup are way different than here. They have buildings that only build certain models of boats and crews that focus in on certain parts etc.. very impressive. I did a factory tour awhile back. There is a thread on here.

Nor-tech has 150ish. employees not 9-10

 

[nowski]

it might work! If it does ya owe me a 30 pack.

That line didn't work for nothing, however this line "Me You Dinner Motel" works every time. Looks like you gotta buy your own 30 pack, sorry...

 

[Warlock1]

With 9-10 guys you produced 36 boats in a year. What type of boat was that?

Luxury Center Consoles at Coral Marine. We were contracted to build 34ft Nor-Techs and the 39ft Boat Show Boats

 

[Warlock1]

Nor-tech has 150ish. employees not 9-10

This is true, we were there secondary facility that was owned by someone else and contracted to build their 34 footers. We also built all of the 39 foot boat show boats and Tronds boats.

 

[HALLETT BOY]

The big question : will they paint boat trailers ??

 

[petie6464]

This is true, we were there secondary facility that was owned by someone else and contracted to build their 34 footers. We also built all of the 39 foot boat show boats and Tronds boats.

If you do all that with 9-10 guys you should go to Nodic, they could trim off 90% of their people and build more boats.

 

[Warlock1]

If you do all that with 9-10 guys you should go to Nodic, they could trim off 90% of their people and build more boats.

I'd be more than happy and take my background and experience to any boat builder and help them maximize their efficiencies. It is what I do. I'd love to open a shop where I live and build boats, just can't live in Havasu due to a medical condition and I don't trust the healthcare there.

One thing that helped us was we did none of the layup of the hulls. That was done by the main factory and they would bring us the blank hulls (no holes). We spent the first day and a half (variable depending on features) putting all the holes in the boat and regelling the holes so there was no bare wood. Then we washed the boat down. Second day we started the shineys, thru hulls, cleats, transducer(s) handrails, grab handles, etc. Everything was done in stages with multiple guys doing certain tasks. One guy in the bilge, One or two doing the shineys, One guy doing the bathroom and cuddy work. This way everybody was out of each others way but could lend a hand whenever needed. When we ran into problems the teams would assemble and discuss what happened and we could figure out a corrective action verses pointing blame.
The goal was 350 hours to build a boat and our bonuses were tied to that. Now if the boat got come crazy electronics and quads, plus AC, multiple radars. special stereos then that number was adjusted.
Also we did not do the rub rail or interior as that was done by the main factory. When we were done the boat was a functional running boat with all systems verified.

 

[Warlock1]

Figured I would showcase some of our work. All of our wiring was exposed so troubleshooting would be easier and to showcase our talents. The main factory did not do this step. Anything that would have had an issue with chafing either got split loom or some kind of a barrier. Some of these pictures show details that were not completely finished yet, but were finished before the boat went to QC.

 

[schweeng]

Sorry….. bunch of A holes on this thread. so much negativity…starting speculation or bringing up past/old stuff. Have absolutely nothing to do with this company (need to say this before the next tool wants to start shit)). Dave spends his time visiting, taking pics, posting this all for the pleasure of the
“I know better crowd” nothing nice to say…. Move on then

 

[Riverdude]

Figured I would showcase some of our work. All of our wiring was exposed so troubleshooting would be easier and to showcase our talents. The main factory did not do this step. Anything that would have had an issue with chafing either got split loom or some kind of a barrier. Some of these pictures show details that were not completely finished yet, but were finished before the boat went to QC.

Is this a Interceptor Boat ?

 

[BUDMAN]

Figured I would showcase some of our work. All of our wiring was exposed so troubleshooting would be easier and to showcase our talents. The main factory did not do this step. Anything that would have had an issue with chafing either got split loom or some kind of a barrier. Some of these pictures show details that were not completely finished yet, but were finished before the boat went to QC.

Nice work

 

[Looking Glass]

Still blows me away at how many Siskel&Eberts we have on rdp.

there are many things that "Blow" you away.

 

[guest hs]

I find it to be interesting that so many owners/GM's overlook AC in a shop. When I ran a manufacturing shop in Florida one of the first things that I did was to get the owner to install AC. I showed him the numbers of what happens on different days and even from morning to afternoon based on temperatures. It was clear to see that when it got hot, production slowed.
Now that I had the proof I provided the explanation. The human body will protect itself at all cost. If it detects an overheat condition it goes into protect mode and slows body functions. This is not something that the guys have control over as it is an automatic function.
Secondly, the guys will have an attitude and rightfully so. It's freaking hot so they spend more time in front of a fan, drinking water or in a lot of cases, energy drinks.
Drinking lots of liquid also requires what? Bathrooms, and with 9 or 10 guys and only one toilet, there was a lot of time lost due to people waiting to use it.
By installing AC we reduced time lost due to waiting on toilet time. Increased production because guys could physically work at pace without overheating. What I felt was the biggest win was the morale. The guys felt like they were important and appreciated. This changed the way they worked and simply produced at a faster rate and when I brought new guys in there was peer pressure to maintain that rate. Along with the build books I made for each model of boat, new guys were able to get to speed much quicker with less direct supervision.
That was the point when the owner let me completely redesign the shop, SOP's and inventory control. We went from build 24 boats the year before I got there to 36 boats the year I took over. Man those were fun times....

I put two mini splits in my shop in Havasu made a huge difference. Everyone that walks in my shop comments that’s it’s the coolest shop in Havasu.

 

[RiverDave]

Is this a Interceptor Boat ?

no that is a Nortech.

 

[Ziggy]

there are many things that "Blow" you away.

It's true....I have a wonderful wife

 

[monkeyswrench]

anyone who hasn't built boats in the havasu heat doesn't know.........swamp coolers work great till about june 21, and after sept 15........ it blows.......
you come in at 4 or 5 and it is already 85-95 degress in the shop until about sept 15............and because most use swamp coolers, humidity is 60-90 percent...........depending if it rained the night before or a system came over, but never rained........that is the starting temp........only goes up.......and with gel and lam, you dont have the luxury of pacing yourself........gel times dont give a shit.........you gotta move your ass........constant drizzle of sweat like a busted pipe...........with that goes patience, which is needed...........rigging, upholstery, wood, and others don't have to heed gel times(they are still sweating tho).......whoever decided it was a great idea to start building boats here, didnt start with 30 foot deck boats, i can assure you..........that has something to do with not being able to get talent from other parts of the country.........

when i started training my son in law, first thing i said, gotta get a guy used to the heat, cal guys wont last.........been doing this here long enough to see them come and go.............usually about july, they bailout.......gotta be used to it.......matt has a chance to

rant semi-over!

I gotta laugh...you need to start training the new guys by having them spend an August or July either doing asphalt work, or roofing. Never done road work, but spent some summers on roofs. If it's 110 in the parking lot, it's usually 120+ on the deck. No shade at all... wringing out bandanas, everything just soaked. Never worried about having to pee, no matter how much you drank it just kind of oozed out of you. It all makes you appreciate both days off, and the AC in the truck.

 

[Gelcoater]

I gotta laugh...you need to start training the new guys by having them spend an August or July either doing asphalt work, or roofing. Never done road work, but spent some summers on roofs. If it's 110 in the parking lot, it's usually 120+ on the deck. No shade at all... wringing out bandanas, everything just soaked. Never worried about having to pee, no matter how much you drank it just kind of oozed out of you. It all makes you appreciate both days off, and the AC in the truck.

Not sure what’s worse?
Having to stop to go pee, or not peeing all day even after intake of several liters of water, lol.
Roofing has to be one of the worst jobs ever.
My dad was in construction my whole life.
Pretty common for me to be rolling to jobs with him on summer break. Spreading mastic was probably the worst fuckin job on the planet

On the bright side that shit didn’t care how hot it was outside.
Gelcoat and resin react very poorly to working outside of their lab controlled gel tests of 77 degrees and less than 20% humidity.
I posted this pic in the job fuck ups thread.

Direct result of too much heat.
Essentially erased the last 2 days of work.
It all went in the trash.
Start over at step A.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Not sure what’s worse?
Having to stop to go pee, or not peeing all day even after intake of several liters of water, lol.
Roofing has to be one of the worst jobs ever.
My dad was in construction my whole life.
Pretty common for me to be rolling to jobs with him on summer break. Spreading mastic was probably the worst fuckin job on the planet

On the bright side that shit didn’t care how hot it was outside.
Gelcoat and resin react very poorly to working outside of their lab controlled gel tests of 77 degrees and less than 20% humidity.
I posted this pic in the job fuck ups thread.
View attachment 1045369
Direct result of too much heat.
Essentially erased the last 2 days of work.
It all went in the trash.
Start over at step A.

My Pops was a roofer, and I did it for some time. Paid good, but will kill you. Mastic isn't bad. Now hot tar, that stuff sucks! Luckily, we had very little work that required "thought". Too hot? Too cold? Too bad. Keep your head down and keep moving. Like a whore, making your money with your body not your brain...
Honestly, I miss it sometimes!

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

Good for them! I hope the succeed. Looks like do very good work, have an amazing building as a base and a silent money guy that has a vision.

 

[Gelcoater]

My Pops was a roofer, and I did it for some time. Paid good, but will kill you. Mastic isn't bad. Now hot tar, that stuff sucks! Luckily, we had very little work that required "thought". Too hot? Too cold? Too bad. Keep your head down and keep moving. Like a whore, making your money with your body not your brain...
Honestly, I miss it sometimes!

I should have noted in there.
From my perspective it was too much heat.
From @retaocleg perspective....I didn’t move my ass fast enough

 

[DRYHEAT]

I gotta laugh...you need to start training the new guys by having them spend an August or July either doing asphalt work, or roofing. Never done road work, but spent some summers on roofs. If it's 110 in the parking lot, it's usually 120+ on the deck. No shade at all... wringing out bandanas, everything just soaked. Never worried about having to pee, no matter how much you drank it just kind of oozed out of you. It all makes you appreciate both days off, and the AC in the truck.

I thought it was bad because it was 140° inside my cement truck, but at least I had shade.

 

[monkeyswrench]

I thought it was bad because it was 140° inside my cement truck, but at least I had shade.

That would suck balls until you start rolling back...at least then you get a breeze. Well, until the sweat dries, then it just feels like a hair drier

 

[DRYHEAT]

That would suck balls until you start rolling back...at least then you get a breeze. Well, until the sweat dries, then it just feels like a hair drier

Hairdryer wouldn’t be bad not quite a blow torch though. that was the week we set the record at 128°, it was an old Mack with no insulation bare metal floors. The good times.

oh, and the finishers were using up all my cleanup water to spray themselves to keep cool. It was a brutal week, could only imagine what the roofers were going through but then again most of the time they’re off the roof by 11 AM

 

[retaocleg]

On the bright side that shit didn’t care how hot it was outside.
Gelcoat and resin react very poorly to working outside of their lab controlled gel tests of 77 degrees and less than 20% humidity.
I posted this pic in the job fuck ups thread.
View attachment 1045369
Direct result of too much heat.
Essentially erased the last 2 days of work.
It all went in the trash.
Start over at step A.

77 degrees, lol.........winter conditions, practically single digits! i thought gel time was at 74 degrees? prolly wrong
i used to have to spray my pins on the hulls in halves........no way i could pull all in time that's a bummer tho, having start over...

 

[Gelcoater]

77 degrees, lol.........winter conditions, practically single digits!
i used to have to spray my pins on the hulls in halves........no way i could pull all in time that's a bummer tho, having start over...

Sometimes for the best.
I can take 3 days to a week to fix it or they can take 3.5 weeks.
Whoever ends up spraying molds at the new Interceptor is going to have a bit more control over things with a real AC.
To my knowledge the only other shop to have a real AC system for the booth and mold prep/taping area, is DCB.