I think the RDP Inmates are loooooooosing it…

[stokerwhore]

you fukkas stink. pass the toilet paper.
classic wintertime pms thread. love it LOL.
here's my worthless contribution to the worthlessness......

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You are right but with one caveat. It’ll go that route if allowed to. You can control it. It just takes more work.

I think one issue here is there’s decent amount of people on here that aren’t really even into boating. This is a “boating lifestyle” website. With that comes other hobbies and topics because with those who love boating comes other hobbies most of the time. But the common thread is a passion for boating. That one common bond ties everyone together unlike real social media.

Like I said, with work you can clean up any issues. For starters if you’re only coming in here to go to the covid or dungeon sections…you shouldn’t be on here. If you can’t remember the last time you boated, probably shouldn’t be on here. And most of all, if you’re a dick, you probably shouldn’t be on here. Weeding out the problems isn’t impossible. Just takes commitment.

I think Dave struggles with really laying the ban hammer down because he’s a nice guy, tries to empathize with everyone and he truly believes in free speech so he’s a bit conflicted.

The unfortunate aspect of the shenanigans and negativity is it pushes industry leaders and other insiders away from posting on here. I know for a fact, heavy hitters lurk on here. Or at least they lurk 3rd party. This is the largest boating forum website on the planet after all. A little civility, even forced civility isn’t a bad thing.

The other side is you can’t ban hammer your way to profitability on a for profit forum. Dave markets this site on “unique IPs” and those unique IPs are increasing not decreasing.

Activity breeds activity.. and there are not a ton of active members here creating content and activity relative to the number of lurkers and bystanders.

So the idea of banning those creating activity for you in hopes to turn lurkers and bystanders into activity generators is a tough sell.

As @Englewood said.. the demographic here has aged and changed over the years.

 

[D19]

I wish there was a button next to threads that if pressed the thread would just disappear from your screen while logged in, kind of like emails.

It would be nice to hit snooze/ delete on all the threads I don't want to see or have no interest in reading.

 

[regor]

I like to boat.

Can we just make the covid section like the dungeon?

 

[Tank]

The other side is you can’t ban hammer your way to profitability on a for profit forum. Dave markets this site on “unique IPs” and those unique IPs are increasing not decreasing.

Activity breeds activity.. and there are not a ton of active members here creating content and activity relative to the number of lurkers and bystanders.

So the idea of banning those creating activity for you in hopes to turn lurkers and bystanders into activity generators is a tough sell.

As @Englewood said.. the demographic here has aged and changed over the years.

Agree 100%. Thus, the “work” part. Ban the problem children. For a few it’s a quantity vs quality issue.

Let’s be honest. People RARELY get banned here. Accountability works for normal people. I’d say if it doesn’t work for a few, those are the ones you don’t want here anyway. Play nice, or don’t play. It’s not a difficult concept.

The good posts and topics outweigh the negative and asshole ones. Wouldn’t affect the bottom line by that much and on the flip side of that, would create a more welcoming environment for others who don’t post here because of perceived “issues”.

 

[Heylam]

It would be real interesting to see a members list in order of sign up to see how many original posters are still posting here and who has moved on.

 

[pwerwagn]

You have people that come here to have fun, and talk about hobbies that are mutually interesting. Then you have people that are here to push their political agendas and ridicule anyone who doesn’t agree with them. When the second element takes over the first, this forum will be history.

You hit the nail on the head there. Ive owned 1 diesel forum, and ran another one...and that was the nail in the coffin on both. It was usually 3-5 people in a sea of thousands that brought them down. There was usually a couple that were knowledgeable, and wanted to spread their knowledge (sometimes too much...but I enjoy that), and then a handful that wanted to suppress the few that were knowledgeable and argue with every detail. Then before long, that game spread, and absolutely everyone wanted to jump on that bandwagon (similar to how everyone has to mention speed utv's in ever single thread on here for some reason...).

I notice an uptick recently in cool content here too though, so hopefully that trend continues!!!

 

[Singleton]

I took a 30 day break from RDP.
I realized I was becoming to negative online and said F it and stepped away from almost all social media.
Then I realized, while I might have been negative, I was constantly being triggered since my POV did not align with someone else’s and unlike face to face conversations, people online don’t drop the topic (they keep typing).

After 30 days, I missed the core knowledge that RDP HAD. I feel people are typing, just to type and are trying to trigger a response from folks. So, I made a few changes. 1) don’t like a thread title, I don’t open it, 2) don’t like the theme of posts once in a thread I exit that thread.

In the end, my active participation on RDP has reduced dramatically. I still read it, but no longer feel the need to respond to threads. Talking and texting with some other RDP members, I am not alone.

Have no advice on how to fix it, but everyone needs to think. Would I say what I am typing, face to face to someone? If yes, then type. If no, stop typing. Until that occurs, the forums future is at risk.

 

[Joker]

You mean in lieu of Ahern/United?

Had no idea they merged. It’s been that long since i used them.

 

[Tank]

It would be real interesting to see a members list in order of sign up to see how many original posters are still posting here and who has moved on.

People naturally ebb and flow in and out of this hobby too though. A LOT! People buy boats are hot and heavy into it and then sell it and move away from it along with the forums. Constant cycle. Their interests
Change so they change forums. It’s not always people leave disgruntled. I’d say the majority of the time it’s organic.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Agree 100%. Thus, the “work” part. Ban the problem children. For a few it’s a quantity vs quality issue.

When you remove the “problem” the mob will just find a new problem. It is a never ending cycle for that type of group think, and that is exactly what it is.

Anyone who spends time whining about something or someone they don’t like on a public Internet forum for weeks, months or longer is more of a problem than whoever they are complaining about. Their problem is in the mirror, not with a person on the internet.

On the other hand saying you want a change in attitude when you let GRADS on occasionally just to goad half the site membership does not help either.

I’m of the opinion nothing needs to change. Ignore who you don’t want to hear from, exit threads you don’t like. It is pretty simple. If you (not you specifically @Tank) aren’t enjoying the experience here, it is on you to resolve. There are plenty of tools at your disposal to adjust your experience.

 

[RCDave]

I took a 30 day break from RDP.
I realized I was becoming to negative online and said F it and stepped away from almost all social media.
Then I realized, while I might have been negative, I was constantly being triggered since my POV did not align with someone else’s and unlike face to face conversations, people online don’t drop the topic (they keep typing).

After 30 days, I missed the core knowledge that RDP HAD. I feel people are typing, just to type and are trying to trigger a response from folks. So, I made a few changes. 1) don’t like a thread title, I don’t open it, 2) don’t like the theme of posts once in a thread I exit that thread.

In the end, my active participation on RDP has reduced dramatically. I still read it, but no longer feel the need to respond to threads. Talking and texting with some other RDP members, I am not alone.

Have no advice on how to fix it, but everyone needs to think. Would I say what I am typing, face to face to someone? If yes, then type. If no, stop typing. Until that occurs, the forums future is at risk.

Ditto...

 

[Joker]

It's not only here. It's the current world

JBnSoCal is gay. That's not negative. Not judgement allowed

He’s not a homo any longer?

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It would be real interesting to see a members list in order of sign up to see how many original posters are still posting here and who has moved on.

Look how many top 20 posters in the member section are gone…. 20% and they are still in the top 20.

 

[Tank]

When you remove the “problem” the mob will just find a new problem. It is a never ending cycle for that type of group think, and that is exactly what it is.

Anyone who spends time whining about something or someone they don’t like on a public Internet forum for weeks, months or longer is more of a problem than whoever they are complaining about. Their problem is in the mirror, not with a person on the internet.

On the other hand saying you want a change in attitude when you let GRADS on occasionally just to goad half the site membership does not help either.

I’m of the opinion nothing needs to change. Ignore who you don’t want to hear from, exit threads you don’t like. It is pretty simple. If you (not you specifically @Tank) aren’t enjoying the experience here, it is on you to resolve. There are plenty of tools at your disposal to adjust your experience.

I agree with 95% of this. The other 5% is I do think there’s exceptions to the rule and some require a ban. You mentioned one already.

Obviously your mood depicts how you post on here. I’ve deleted a response to threads when I’m in a bad mood. I suppose naturally unhappy people post more negative stuff. I’m naturally a happy person so, I’m pretty freakin positive most of the time. Lol.

Look at our on-going banter over rack storage and the countless debates and discussions we’ve had going back and forth. That’s the way adults discuss their opposing opinions with respect, a little humor and ribbing but not taking things personal. Discussion is healthy. Varying opinions is a good thing. Being an asshole, however is not. Lol

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree with 95% of this. The other 5% is I do think there’s exceptions to the rule and some require a ban. You mentioned one already.

Agreed .

 

[Backlash]

RDP is THE place to get any current information for anything I find to be important. I don't participate in any other social media as this site best suits me and my interests. It's like anything else. Don't let the negative outweigh the positive. Start posting up new build threads or a thread you find interesting about something you accomplished......people may enjoy it and learn something from it. This site is what you make of it, and you'll get out of it what you put into it.

 

[yuppie]

The weather looks great next weekend. Stop posting and start boating.

THIS. I came here for the boating content, tips and tricks, cool builds and more contact with the boating community.

Let's try and focus on all that stuff a little more.

 

[RiverDave]

I think the first time this thread was posted on here was in 2009.. (no shit). I think back then it was because I was tightening some of the reigns on what was appropriate on here.

I am on rdp more than anyone, and I haven’t seen a large shift in negativity over all, with the exception of the speed thread.. that whole deal is very bizarre to me to watch people get wound up and literally talk shit when they have zero actual information, or almost hope the whole thing tanks.. lol. I don’t get it but it doesn’t bother me at all because the amount of money they have gone up pretty much guarantees a profit for me.



Overall though the forums are the forums.. I have always found if someone is being negative or there is a change in their behavior it usually has little to do with rdp. Something else is going on whether that’s work or home or whatever.

I wish someone would pm me some examples of what we are talking about specifically so I can go look at it and understand 100% what they are referring too.

RD

 

[ChrisV]

Desperate Housewives of Riverdaves.

 

[ElAzul]

I've been saying it for a while the nut swinging tribal vibe here sucks. You will get two completely different responses to a thread depending on who posts it or if the tribe decides to pounce fact's be dammed. Oh yeah and it's Winter

 

[RiverDave]

I've been saying it for a while the nut swinging tribal vibe here sucks. You will get two completely different responses to a thread depending on who posts it or if the tribe decides to pounce fact's be dammed. Oh yeah and it's Winter

I’m sorry what?

 

[RiverDave]

So I have a question.. the people posting in this thread that are saying things are negative, or things were different “back then.”

What type of content are up putting up? This is the kinda website where whatever you put in you are going to get out..

For example if you post pics of your trip to the dunes or off-roading.. your likely going to receive positive comments in kind and abd it promotes more content of similar themes.

If your big contribution is arguing with people non stop, or being negative it again produces in kind responses..

RD

 

[Ducksquasher]

Well...I hope RDP doesn't go away. I am on here everyday for everything from stress relief to knowledge to advice. And the fact that we usually are in front of the news is amazing! It never ceases to amaze me how knowledgeable people are and how the majority of people are truly good and want to help others. I too just move on from the confrontations and threads that go sideways due to the few who just won't move on.

I am all about free speach/opinions but the few who just pick arguments can leave. There is a difference between some fun ribbing others and just being a dick!

 

[BHC Vic]

I took a 30 day break from RDP.
I realized I was becoming to negative online and said F it and stepped away from almost all social media.
Then I realized, while I might have been negative, I was constantly being triggered since my POV did not align with someone else’s and unlike face to face conversations, people online don’t drop the topic (they keep typing).

After 30 days, I missed the core knowledge that RDP HAD. I feel people are typing, just to type and are trying to trigger a response from folks. So, I made a few changes. 1) don’t like a thread title, I don’t open it, 2) don’t like the theme of posts once in a thread I exit that thread.

In the end, my active participation on RDP has reduced dramatically. I still read it, but no longer feel the need to respond to threads. Talking and texting with some other RDP members, I am not alone.

Have no advice on how to fix it, but everyone needs to think. Would I say what I am typing, face to face to someone? If yes, then type. If no, stop typing. Until that occurs, the forums future is at risk.

I don’t post at all anymore. LOF ruined this site for me. I’ll read stuff but I won’t post. The whole well just don’t click it doesn’t work. He’s in every thread. I’m not blocking anyone I just won’t post. I don’t even know where I used to find the time to post as much as I did. Way too busy now

 

[BHC Vic]

So I have a question.. the people posting in this thread that are saying things are negative, or things were different “back then.”

What type of content are up putting up? This is the kinda website where whatever you put in you are going to get out..

For example if you post pics of your trip to the dunes or off-roading.. your likely going to receive positive comments in kind and abd it promotes more content of similar themes.

If your big contribution is arguing with people non stop, or being negative it again produces in kind responses..

RD

I won’t post anything. My trip to Troncones cold have been an epic thread. Won’t put anything up for lof to shit on.

 

[Ducksquasher]

So I have a question.. the people posting in this thread that are saying things are negative, or things were different “back then.”

What type of content are up putting up? This is the kinda website where whatever you put in you are going to get out..

For example if you post pics of your trip to the dunes or off-roading.. your likely going to receive positive comments in kind and abd it promotes more content of similar themes.

If your big contribution is arguing with people non stop, or being negative it again produces in kind responses..

RD

This!

 

[Tank]

I think the first time this thread was posted on here was in 2009.. (no shit). I think back then it was because I was tightening some of the reigns on what was appropriate on here.

I am on rdp more than anyone, and I haven’t seen a large shift in negativity over all, with the exception of the speed thread.. that whole deal is very bizarre to me to watch people get wound up and literally talk shit when they have zero actual information, or almost hope the whole thing tanks.. lol. I don’t get it but it doesn’t bother me at all because the amount of money they have gone up pretty much guarantees a profit for me.



Overall though the forums are the forums.. I have always found if someone is being negative or there is a change in their behavior it usually has little to do with rdp. Something else is going on whether that’s work or home or whatever.

I wish someone would pm me some examples of what we are talking about specifically so I can go look at it and understand 100% what they are referring too.

RD

See, I have not followed one ioda of the speed car threads because, I ain’t buying one, and I don’t give a shit about them. Lol so, maybe that’s why I don’t see a bump in negativity.

Then again I see the speed car comments throughout other threads and know it’s a running joke. Doesn’t bother me.

I also don’t know the beef between Vic and LOF. because I again, I try to avoid negativity and don’t even enjoy watching others engaged in it. I just move along. Shit that doesn’t affect me, doesn’t affect me. I see enough negativity and deal with botching and complaining and real life issues all day. I don’t seek it out here.

 

[BIGRED9158]

Just out of curiosity how many people do have lof on ignore?

 

[Joker]

I don’t post at all anymore. LOF ruined this site for me. I’ll read stuff but I won’t post. The whole well just don’t click it doesn’t work. He’s in every thread. I’m not blocking anyone I just won’t post. I don’t even know where I used to find the time to post as much as I did. Way too busy now

Now you're sounding like that old "Vicious" guy. Hope all is well Vic.

 

[Ziggy]

So I have a question.. the people posting in this thread that are saying things are negative, or things were different “back then.”

What type of content are up putting up? This is the kinda website where whatever you put in you are going to get out..

For example if you post pics of your trip to the dunes or off-roading.. your likely going to receive positive comments in kind and abd it promotes more content of similar themes.

If your big contribution is arguing with people non stop, or being negative it again produces in kind responses..

RD

I can't say there any one specific thing but the general uneasiness(aka short tempers) we see in our current social environment and the "in your face" responses are the driving factors.

 

[ChrisV]

Just out of curiosity how many people do have lof on ignore?

What’s LOF?

 

[NicPaus]

I don't have anyone on ignore. If someone on the internet bothers you that much. Life must be tough in many other ways. Just don't reply to them.

 

[Bobby V]

Just out of curiosity how many people do have lof on ignore?

Sorry. I had to take you off my ignore list to read your post.

 

[Ziggy]

What’s LOF?

Lube, Oil & Filter

 

[DoughBallin14]

Been a member since 2014 and a lurker for a few years before that. Definitely came here for the awesome builds of dream boats and community learning from being a teenager seeing all the cool shit. Been going to the lakes and local desert since a baby so always felt at home here.

I have been on many forums over the years from Diesel place, oso, gd, to name a few.
They all definitely got overrun with a few cancers that killed the fun of it.

Rdp is special i can say i do ignore a lot of posts and just keep reading and dont comment much. I dont have anyone on ignore, i dont like it i carry on, there is definitely a few inside jokes or jabs that i dont get still haha they definitely get posted in threads with zero relevance but i just carry on and chuckle sometimes.

All the inmates have been locked up and upset at the world and we can't get out on the lake and enjoy some freedom.

If anyone has looked at my trailer remodel thread i started, i can say this site has been very supportive and given good advice etc, i started the same thread on a forest River rv forum and basically got” told you so” responses and never a question answered. Also got told told to move the thread two times because it didn’t fit where i posted it. The layout and descriptions sucked on the site, also couldnt edit after post and no ignore button haha.

Any rdp member who has commented or suggested anything i do appreciate it and hope to meet up with some of yall. Cant forget Thanks @RitcheyRch for morning encouragement also haha! First post i look at since i start work at 3am

Also would be onboard to move all speed related stuff to off road chit chat and stop randomly posting something speed related In other threads.

Well thats my cents, what do i know just a family cruiser jet bote owner! Catch ya on the water you wild animals

 

[Ziggy]

See, I have not followed one ioda of the speed car threads because, I ain’t buying one, and I don’t give a shit about them. Lol so, maybe that’s why I don’t see a bump in negativity.

Then again I see the speed car comments throughout other threads and know it’s a running joke. Doesn’t bother me.

I also don’t know the beef between Vic and LOF. because I again, I try to avoid negativity and don’t even enjoy watching others engaged in it. I just move along. Shit that doesn’t affect me, doesn’t affect me. I see enough negativity and deal with botching and complaining and real life issues all day. I don’t seek it out here.

Ironically, everyone blamed LOF for all the arguing in the Speed thread, yet even in Daves "Take3" thread that LOF wasn't part of continued on the same paths as Speed Thread 1 & 2.....even with Dave basically moderating it along the way.

 

[Tooms22]

Yeah, stop calling people out and being negative.

Now @RiverDave, why you gotta ruin my sunset beer and apps at Mudshark's on Saturday with your big ass stereo in the RDP trailer?!?!

Do we need to meet at the Docktagon?!?!




Just kidding, that system is super impressive and I was down with the jamz!

 

[RiverDave]

Yeah, stop calling people out and being negative.

Now @RiverDave, why you gotta ruin my sunset beer and apps at Mudshark's on Saturday with your big ass stereo in the RDP trailer?!?!

Do we need to meet at the Docktagon?!?!




Just kidding, that system is super impressive and I was down with the jamz!

Team rdp Christmas party.. lol.

 

[PlumLoco]

Nobody online has ever made me laugh as often as Skankersore did. Every single comment was sarcastic and funny to the extreme. If I haven't left because she did, I doubt any of the angry haters on here are going to be the thing that makes me move on.
It is so easy to just scroll past comments made by folks you don't like. But sometimes, even the haters on here, have something worthwhile to contribute. Fortunately for me, I can usually read posts from anyone without it raising my blood pressure much. It's just the internet. It ain't real unless you make it that way.

 

[Badchoices03]

Anyone that lets someone on the internet get under their skin that bad, must have really thin skin to begin with

 

[Dirtbag]

I’m participating less and less. It’s gone the way of Facebook and Instagram with the constant shit talking and eagerness of who can wish failure and find fault the quickest. To each their own I suppose.

we need more boating content.....i blame all you pussies that bought pontoons!

 

[DWC]

Should be a sticky on top of every topic.

“Like I said, with work you can clean up any issues. For starters if you’re only coming in here to go to the covid or dungeon sections…you shouldn’t be on here. If you can’t remember the last time you boated, probably shouldn’t be on here. And most of all, if you’re a dick, you probably shouldn’t be on here. Weeding out the problems isn’t impossible. Just takes commitment.”

 

[RiverDave]

You know I just scrolled the first two pages of the lounge and I’m not really seeing all this negativity..

There was some crazy “you are at war” thread, I will freely admit I didn’t really pay much attention to it because it didn’t interest me.. after reading it . I had no idea so many people were still believing Chem trails are a thing. Lol. I locked the thread.

The rest of it though? Seems pretty happy go lucky to me?

 

[Cole Trickle]

I won’t post anything. My trip to Troncones cold have been an epic thread. Won’t put anything up for lof to shit on.

Post it a ton of people would be excited to see what you have been up to.

Just remember you were alot of peoples LOF at one point. Move on and don't let people get under your skin. You have grown a ton on this site it's been a cool processes to watch.

 

[Badchoices03]

You know I just scrolled the first two pages of the lounge and I’m not really seeing all this negativity..

There was some crazy “you are at war” thread, I will freely admit I didn’t really pay much attention to it because it didn’t interest me.. after reading it . I had no idea so many people were still believing Chem trails are a thing. Lol. I locked the thread.

The rest of it though? Seems pretty happy go lucky to me?

But can you prove them wrong? LOL

 

[Dirtbag]

So I have a question.. the people posting in this thread that are saying things are negative, or things were different “back then.”

What type of content are up putting up? This is the kinda website where whatever you put in you are going to get out..

For example if you post pics of your trip to the dunes or off-roading.. your likely going to receive positive comments in kind and abd it promotes more content of similar themes.

If your big contribution is arguing with people non stop, or being negative it again produces in kind responses..

RD

truth bomb delivered

 

[LazyLavey]

 

[beaverretriever]

If you can’t remember the last time you boated, probably shouldn’t be on here.

I have been on here less and less over the past few years and slowly will probably just disappear. However, I don't think this matters about no boating frequently. I have not boated in some time but I'm still a boat guy and frequent anything boat related on the web. I probably have got more boat seat time in one season than many have in 10 years that currnetly own boats. I still consider myself a boater even if I have not been on one in some time.

I still post some boat related content and enjoy reading about what many others post on here. I know much of my shit is just about travel or just making a stupid joke but I enjoy my time on here most of time, if and when I can ignore all the idiotic post. I struggle sometimes and I may be on here another few years or be gone tomorrow if I feel it's just not for me any longer.

Hotboat was a mess but I still have quite a few friends I met on there that I'll keep in touch with the rest of my life. I do miss some of photos posted (good looking real ladies) on the river and lake.

 

[Dirtbag]

You know I just scrolled the first two pages of the lounge and I’m not really seeing all this negativity..

There was some crazy “you are at war” thread, I will freely admit I didn’t really pay much attention to it because it didn’t interest me.. after reading it . I had no idea so many people were still believing Chem trails are a thing. Lol. I locked the thread.

The rest of it though? Seems pretty happy go lucky to me?

Dave I think we just need more boating content....and in the winter off road content.....when i first came to the site people were sharing their builds in the lounge and they were almost always positive. Its where i got ideas for both our boat builds. But that all got moved to the in the mold section. Maybe there has been some over or under moderation.....

all i know is i want to see more of our members boats and ideas. cool shit in the boating world....wtf is going on with supercatfest west and desert storm...anything boating related....i enjoy many of the other threads and dont complain about much...i have thick skin...wish grads was around more lol....but there seem to be a lot of negative nancys around.....I enjoyed reading the information in the Speed threads but all the jerkfaces hoping robby would fail or robby is scamming everyone is just so unamerican. Dude is building a company from the ground up and bringing new competition to the sxs game and people are beating him down instead of rooting him on.....maybe covid fucked everything up....all i know is some of yall need to look in the mirror and ask the guy looking back if you gave back something positive to society today. Or did you try to drag someone down to your level.