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I guess this is probably a pretty dismal question, but would anybody rather have an earthquake or a hurricane?
I prefer earthquakes. First off they aren’t a yearly season, and most earthquakes are a minor annoyance. Sure they show up unannounced, and you could get one that will wipe your house out

Hurricanes show up every year and while they vary in intensity even the minor ones screw up quite a bit of real estate.
 

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I prefer earthquakes. First off they aren’t a yearly season, and most earthquakes are a minor annoyance. Sure they show up unannounced, and you could get one that will wipe your house out

Hurricanes show up every year and while they vary in intensity even the minor ones screw up quite a bit of real estate.
Yup
 

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I guess this is probably a pretty dismal question, but would anybody rather have an earthquake or a hurricane?
Earthquakes that do this damage happen how often?
Pretty simple answer.
But my wife argues otherwise. She thinks just because earthquakes scare her more makes them worse🤦
 

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I guess this is probably a pretty dismal question, but would anybody rather have an earthquake or a hurricane?
Earthquake. At least all my shit is in a Pyle and not strewn all over the country side. Man I feel for them. It’s pretty amaizing how much they are building low lying areas. It may not flood ever but the onetime it does holyshit. They have built houses right next to riverbed in Fillmore. And now in Oxnard too. El nino is gonna fuck some shit up out here.
 

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Honest question if that was the case last time why would they not have a generator for future events?
They bought the house about a year prior to Ian hitting (they don’t live there full time). Now he has some plug deal on the meter that he can plug his generator into if it happens again.

Nothing happened to them this time all is good


This was us when we drove down a few weeks after Ian hit. First thing we did was wire a generator to the panel. Only one who had all lights and running the pool pump to clean it. A couple of portable AC units and a table top ice maker and things were good (besides some damage)

Most of the neighbors would come over every evening to have drinks and watch the news. Then complained when they left cause they had no power and it was hot.

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The earthquake vs hurricane question. Yes I would choose earthquakes, but that is not your biggest problem there. It s the fires. Yes we get the bad weather, but every year you guys get the fires. We went through the fires there too. Evacuated in 07 and the weather man that lost his house (can't remember his name) wasn't very far from our house.

I have been thinking about a whole home generator. At our new place everything is underground, but I worry about the lines that are above ground feeding the underground lines. We also do not have any big trees near the house. They did put up tall palm trees in the community, but not near us. I will probably get one just in case. I do have a portable 5500 and a portable a/c unit, but would like some more power than that if needed.

Our question now is renting our summer place out. It has been set up for snowbirds. Older people that have money and usually aren't going to mess up your stuff. Well there is a need for rentals for those that have houses that got hit by the hurricane. My wife has seen people post looking for a 6 month rental until they get their place back livable. They could be families with kids or younger families that may not treat our stuff the same as an older couple. We are debating if we want to rent to those. Everything in our house is new as we sold it all in TN, so I worry about having it messed up.
 

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Earthquake I was on the 101 at 405 at 430am ish I was in my big rig when the Northridge quake hit also went thru the fires twice in corona as we lived up against the hills that burned had to evacuate twice..so wife and I have done it all now....oh and had to escape Israel last Oct 10.
 
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The thing that saved us food wise is the whole town of Clemson University had no outages everything is open and it's 15 min away but it's packed with traffic and long azz lines
 

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The National Guard and FEMA are in Florida right now. So are also multiple federal and state agencies.

The Red Cross is set up in multiple places?

Fake News is believing that the Federal Government is not helping right now. They are all over the place.

There is a ton of devastation right now. News is non stop.
 

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They’re estimating over $100 Billon in damages. We’ll see how our government reacts.

Just last week……

8.9 Billion to Israhell

8 Billion to Ukraine (approaching 200 Billion in total)

567 Million to Taiwan
 

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Ok am I the only one wondering why people are not prepared for natural disasters? Especially people who live where these disasters are very possible?

How the hell do you not have a generator, dried food and water supply?
 

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Ok am I the only one wondering why people are not prepared for natural disasters? Especially people who live where these disasters are very possible?

How the hell do you not have a generator, dried food and water supply?
RD owns all the MREs. Maybe he should share?
 

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Ok am I the only one wondering why people are not prepared for natural disasters? Especially people who live where these disasters are very possible?

How the hell do you not have a generator, dried food and water supply?

Doesn't do much good when many of these places, not only is your house is gone, but the Walmart down the street is gone as well..


 

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From the Joe & the hoe adminstration: "what happened with this hurricane is a result of climate change! If you don't want this to happen then plug in car, your brain, and soul and we'll take care of you."

This country is lost. The people have a real fear of the deep state government, at both the state and federal levels, that any desire to rise up against the money being off-shored will result in your ass being investigated. Everything you worked for or built legally taken away via the cost to defend yourself in or out of a court room.

Only when we have shored ourselves up, should we be making it rain in other countries. Every time there's a disaster, the citizens of this country pay the bill in every conceivable way. The short term nightmare of days or weeks without power. The long term grab by the insurance companies reaching into your wallet through your asshole for rate hikes or said insurance company denying your claim or pulling out of the market.

We're lost. Echos of the fall of Rome. When we focus on crazy sexuality, rather than true civics and protection of the citizens welfare and freedoms.
 
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Ok am I the only one wondering why people are not prepared for natural disasters? Especially people who live where these disasters are very possible?

How the hell do you not have a generator, dried food and water supply?
Ive lived on the San Andreas fault for my 45 years on this earth. Am I prepaird for the big one? Not hardly. Im sure most of those people have lived through many hurricanes and think nothing will happen.
 

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Doesn't do much good when many of these places, not only is your house is gone, but the Walmart down the street is gone as well..



That’s a good excuse. But what about the people that don’t have that excuse. Having food spoil in your fridge just because the power went out is wild to me. I have over $3000 worth of meat in my freezer relying entirely on the power company to keep my invest and food source safe is crazy to me.
 

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Ive lived on the San Andreas fault for my 45 years on this earth. Am I prepaird for the big one? Not hardly. Im sure most of those people have lived through many hurricanes and think nothing will happen.
So why make the choice to not be prepared?

The thought of my family starving because I wanted to gamble on an outcome?
 

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Ok am I the only one wondering why people are not prepared for natural disasters? Especially people who live where these disasters are very possible?

How the hell do you not have a generator, dried food and water supply?
I usually ask myself this when events like this happen. People build on cliffs, or in forests, and nature sneaks up on them. This appears to be quite different though. Storms like this are pretty unheard of in the hardest hit areas. Some of these places have heavy snow storms, but not sustained winds and massive flooding. People in SoCal are prepared for earthquakes, and the Floridians are prepared for hurricanes, but neither are prepared for blizzards. Everyone prepares most heavily for what the most common threat is. The problem is, we can't prepare for everything.
 

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That’s a good excuse. But what about the people that don’t have that excuse. Having food spoil in your fridge just because the power went out is wild to me. I have over $3000 worth of meat in my freezer relying entirely on the power company to keep my invest and food source safe is crazy to me.
I'm assuming you're scolding yourself for this oversight when solutions are readily available and been discussed on RDP ad nauseum ??

The one advantage of hurricanes over Tornados, earthquakes and even wildfires, is they don't just arrive unexpectedly. Unfortunately, not everybody does or in some cases aren't able to act accordingly to mitigate personal or property loss.
The anticipated ferocity of this storm and torrential amount of rain was predicted well in advance, and yet 57 and possibly more to come, poor souls were lost for various reasons, some at least, were likely avoidable. 😖

Losing our home in a wildfire taught us many lessons, but I find that now 17 years later, it's easy to get lax and become complacent about it.
 

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So why make the choice to not be prepared?

The thought of my family starving because I wanted to gamble on an outcome?
One is nevery fully prepared. Could your family live in your home for months with no power and with the food you have? Probaly not. Im like most have 4 cases of water and stuffed freezers and pantry and plenty of ammo as well as a 5th wheel to live in. We can easily last a couple weeks. But If somthing big happened we would be jumping in the truck that has 100 gallons of fuel and making home some where else.. Most people in cali or arizona dont prepare. People in Florida and hurricane coasts do prepare but are never prepaired for the extreme. Building codes are built for preparedness of hurricanes Most people in hurricane zones have all ready have back up generators due to when hurricanes roll though it usually knocks out power for days. But how do people prepare for floods? The biggest thing you can do in a catastrophe is hopefully get up and leave.
 

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One is nevery fully prepared. Could your family live in your home for months with no power and with the food you have? Probaly not. Im like most have 4 cases of water and stuffed freezers and pantry and plenty of ammo as well as a 5th wheel to live in. We can easily last a couple weeks. But If somthing big happened we would be jumping in the truck that has 100 gallons of fuel and making home some where else.. Most people in cali or arizona dont prepare. People in Florida and hurricane coasts do prepare but are never prepaired for the extreme. Building codes are built for preparedness of hurricanes Most people in hurricane zones have all ready have back up generators due to when hurricanes roll though it usually knocks out power for days. But how do people prepare for floods? The biggest thing you can do in a catastrophe is hopefully get up and leave.
Besides water only have 20 gallons on hand but I know where to access plenty about a mile away. We have food for 6 people 3 months easy. We have been using up some of our canned stuff to fight food prices or we could go longer. I have a 2 generators and 40 gallons of fuel. Fire wood, and a shit load of propane.
 

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Ive lived on the San Andreas fault for my 45 years on this earth. Am I prepaird for the big one? Not hardly. Im sure most of those people have lived through many hurricanes and think nothing will happen.
Wrightwood?
 

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I usually ask myself this when events like this happen. People build on cliffs, or in forests, and nature sneaks up on them. This appears to be quite different though. Storms like this are pretty unheard of in the hardest hit areas. Some of these places have heavy snow storms, but not sustained winds and massive flooding. People in SoCal are prepared for earthquakes, and the Floridians are prepared for hurricanes, but neither are prepared for blizzards. Everyone prepares most heavily for what the most common threat is. The problem is, we can't prepare for everything.
I beg to differ on the blizzard. Last year they said we (in the San Berdo Mountains) were going to get a blizzard, at least several days prior. We stocked up on food, and fuel for the generator and snow blower and rode it out. I snow plowed my driveway (and to some extent my driveway area where it meets the Street) twice a day as well as cleared doors and windows, and at the end of the storm I would have been fine if the County had not ignored the forecast (they didn’t have equipment capable of plowing large amounts of snow off county maintained roads).

Some people take things seriously and prepare when warned. Some not so much, when the information is given to them.
 

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I beg to differ on the blizzard. Last year they said we (in the San Berdo Mountains) were going to get a blizzard, at least several days prior. We stocked up on food, and fuel for the generator and snow blower and rode it out. I snow plowed my driveway (and to some extent my driveway area where it meets the Street) twice a day as well as cleared doors and windows, and at the end of the storm I would have been fine if the County had not ignored the forecast (they didn’t have equipment capable of plowing large amounts of snow off county maintained roads).

Some people take things seriously and prepare when warned. Some not so much, when the information is given to them.
You were prepared for the situation, and a situation that is a fairly common issue in higher elevations. What if, instead of 12-15 inches of snow, your same area received 12-15 inches of rain? Different situation entirely when it comes to preparation. If you have all the gear, but your house is ripped from it's foundation, what then? Many of these people were told the hurricane would take a different path. Many more had been through other storms, but none like this. I'm more prepared than most, but I have no illusions that I am prepared for everything. If some biblical type flood washed my home away, none of that matters in the end.
 

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If my wife and I are ever forced to evacuate or re-locate until the neighborhood is restored…….. We will be heading for Phoenix.

The key is leaving before the airports close.

Owning a boat becomes a real pain in the ass. All solutions to this problem are expensive. No guarantees either.

Hurricanes Suck!
 

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Hurricanes vs Earthquakes - I’ve been able to successfully reposition and avoid numerous hurricanes and typhoons. Earthquakes? Not so much. . . .
 

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in the last 20 years there has been about 40 deaths in the USA from earthquakes.

been about 2000 death from hurricanes.

my guess would be though that if we had a REALLY big one, 8.5+ in LA, SF or SD, the death toll would be in the tens of thousands in a 60 second period.
 

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in the last 20 years there has been about 40 deaths in the USA from earthquakes.

been about 2000 death from hurricanes.

my guess would be though that if we had a REALLY big one, 8.5+ in LA, SF or SD, the death toll would be in the tens of thousands in a 60 second period.
Correct, the big one could have intense shaking for 3-4 minutes. The '64 Alaskan quake shook for 5-6 minutes.
 
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