Huge Explosion in Lebanon

[riverroyal]

chipotle packaging plant CNN is reporting

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

chipotle packaging plant CNN is reporting

That’s par for the course. Did they say Trump owns the plant and sends the chipotles to Russia yet?

 

[Sandlord]

 

[Carlson-jet]

We can just call it a tactical error.

 

[Blow It Up]

Well that’s gonna leave a mark

 

[Universal Elements]

It’s Sodium Nitrate that exploded

 

[Sandlord]

First the cause was attributed to fireworks
then story changed to munitions storage
here's the 3rd version.

 

[Sandlord]

It’s Sodium Nitrate that exploded

that's what they are saying now, but it doesn't explain the dozens of smaller explosions preceding the blast.

 

[Tooms22]

A buddy has family there. He just sent me pics of interior doors blown off their hinges. The house is 6 miles from the blast.

 

[YumaRivernaut]

Possibly a Hezbollah missile warehouse. Israelis probably took it out.
Well never know for sure.

UPDATE: Al-Hadeth News Says MASSIVE Beirut Explosion Was Warehouse for Iranian Missiles to Hezbollah -- INSANE VIDEO!

A MASSIVE explosion rocked Beirut, Lebanon on Tuesday. As reported earlier by Cristina Laila The National News Agency reported that the explosion was at a warehouse for firecrackers near the port. A Powerful explosion has occured in Beirut. It's not yet clear what caused the blast. #Beirut...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Carlson-jet]

We've all watched vids of fireworks factories/warehouses. They were nothing like this. Somebody is telling a "windy" as my Grandfather used to say.
I'm not buying whatever the news is selling these days. Call me a critic.

 

[LowRiver2]

Confiscated Sodium nitrate off of a ship that was stored in a warehouse for over a year

common sense is not all that common

Video of dead bodies with the clothes blown off in the blast pressure wave
very good education what Blast pressure does to humans and buildings

 

[Sandlord]

Secretary-General Of Lebanon's Kataeb Party Critically Wounded In Beirut Blast - Reports

https://www.urdupoint.com/en/world/secretary-general-of-lebanons-kataeb-party-c-992884.html

Kataeb Party
is a Christian Democratic political party in Lebanon. The party played a major role in the Lebanese Civil War (1975–1990). In decline in the late 80's and 90's, the party slowly re-emerged in the early 2000's as a modern, youthful and developed party. It is currently part of the March 14 Alliance.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kataeb_Party

 

[2Driver]

Anyone remember PEPCON in Henderson. The PEPCON plant, located in Henderson, Nevada, 10 miles (16 km) from Las Vegas, was one of only two American producers of ammonium perchlorate ("AP"), an oxidizer used in solid propellant rocket boosters, including the Space Shuttle, military weapons (SLBMs launched from nuclear submarines), and non-weaponized rocket programs (Atlas, Patriot, etc.)

At the 57 second spot

 

[EmpirE231]

A buddy has family there. He just sent me pics of interior doors blown off their hinges. The house is 6 miles from the blast.

and keep in mind the buildings there are all constructed from concrete block.

 

[PRORACER7474]

Anyone remember PEPCON in Henderson. The PEPCON plant, located in Henderson, Nevada, 10 miles (16 km) from Las Vegas, was one of only two American producers of ammonium perchlorate ("AP"), an oxidizer used in solid propellant rocket boosters, including the Space Shuttle, military weapons (SLBMs launched from nuclear submarines), and non-weaponized rocket programs (Atlas, Patriot, etc.)

At the 57 second spot

I lived less than 3 miles from there that day and still do, big blast

 

[guest hs]

Dave at China Buffet ?????

 

[guest hs]

Anyone remember PEPCON in Henderson. The PEPCON plant, located in Henderson, Nevada, 10 miles (16 km) from Las Vegas, was one of only two American producers of ammonium perchlorate ("AP"), an oxidizer used in solid propellant rocket boosters, including the Space Shuttle, military weapons (SLBMs launched from nuclear submarines), and non-weaponized rocket programs (Atlas, Patriot, etc.)

At the 57 second spot

I was a junior in High school only 4 miles away from Pepcon when it exploded my now Father-in-law worked there luckily he had the day off playing golf.

 

[El Rojo]

where can I get some of those "fireworks?" lol....

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

where can I get some of those "fireworks?" lol....

Iran

 

[Howard23]

There are going to be 100's of Deaths from this mass explosion!!! The numbers of dead are going to keep racking up as rescue and clean-up go on now.
Terrible situation. RIP to the innocent lives lost in this.

 

[Ziggy]

So many innocent lives lost. Crazy, I just watched the History Channel's Hiroshima A-bomb special. Some depressing shit for sure.
RIP to the many lives lost today.

 

[RiverDave]

First the cause was attributed to fireworks
then story changed to munitions storage
here's the 3rd version.
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I don’t believe that explosion was caused by sodium nitrate or potassium nitrate or derivatives..

I built a shit ton of home made explosives when I was younger.. it was kind of a hobby And I made a ton of devices out of potassium nitrate (salt Peter) etc..

To give you an idea Timothy Mcveigh blew up OKC with salt peter / diesel fuel derivative and that was a u haul truck packed to the gills with that shit and while it did substantial damage it was blowing doors off hinges a mile away let alone six miles away.. I don’t think there was much damage two blocks away..

Even if it was a munitions dump, wtf would be sitting in there that would do that? A MOAB or something? Wtf?

Thst pepcon explosion was big, but this one was bigger.. and by a lot.

I doubt we will ever know the real truth of what that was, butI would bet that was some kinda strike or assassination attempt on someone.

 

[HCP3]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1290746655948627968

 

[riverroyal]

wow, im thinking 10000 dead when its over. Basically wiped out the area of downtown SD

 

[LowRiver2]

I don’t believe that explosion was caused by sodium nitrate or potassium nitrate or derivatives..

I built a shit ton of home made explosives when I was younger.. it was kind of a hobby And I made a ton of devices out of potassium nitrate (salt Peter) etc..

To give you an idea Timothy Mcveigh blew up OKC with salt peter / diesel fuel derivative and that was a u haul truck packed to the gills with that shit and while it did substantial damage it was blowing doors off hinges a mile away let alone six miles away.. I don’t think there was much damage two blocks away..

Even if it was a munitions dump, wtf would be sitting in there that would do that? A MOAB or something? Wtf?

Thst pepcon explosion was big, but this one was bigger.. and by a lot.

I doubt we will ever know the real truth of what that was, butI would bet that was some kinda strike or assassination attempt on someone.

1. McVey made a SHAPE CHARGE:
6’x18’ length of cargo box) 1” thick steel sheet on side opposite the building inside the cargo box: EXACTLY why it directed blast into building: Combat Engineering 101

2. We’re talking a SHIP load of sodium nitrate:
In excess of 20K lbs.
It’s a water gel based explosive and was confiscated as such @RiverDave. None of us know the mix, but to say your experience make it not likely show how little you actually practiced in adding oxidizers.
The Port directors and local Police in Beruit were stupid enough to have that stored in an urban environment.
Based on the one video there were likely fireworks stored nearby or they were used to create the initial fire.

Heat/Shock/Friction: any alone or in combination can cause a deflagration. The huge amount may have helped turn this into detonation.

FBI Bomb Techs are enroute and there will be a report on How the explosive train worked.

Everyoje outside of the EOD community quickly forgets to realize the evidence is always there to figure out what happened.
The tough ones are nuclear, and this was not the case today.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

1. McVey made a SHAPE CHARGE:
6’x18’ length of cargo box) 1” thick steel sheet on side opposite the building inside the cargo box: EXACTLY why it directed blast into building: Combat Engineering 101

2. We’re talking a SHIP load of sodium nitrate:
In excess of 20K lbs.
It’s a water gel based explosive and was confiscated as such @RiverDave. None of us know the mix, but to say your experience make it not likely show how little you actually practiced in adding oxidizers.
The Port directors and local Police in Beruit were stupid enough to have that stored in an urban environment.
Based on the one video there were likely fireworks stored nearby or they were used to create the initial fire.

Heat/Shock/Friction: any alone or in combination can cause a deflagration. The huge amount may have helped turn this into detonation.

FBI Bomb Techs are enroute and there will be a report on How the explosive train worked.

Everyoje outside of the EOD community quickly forgets to realize the evidence is always there to figure out what happened.
The tough ones are nuclear, and this was not the case today.

Was hoping you'd be along to educate us.

Insane amount of destruction.

 

[WhatExit?]

First Hawaii is closed and now Beirut vacations are off the list.

That country has seen so much destruction that in a week it'll be hard to know what was pre and post-blast. Whatever it was (certainly not fireworks) there's a lot more to the story.

Good thing the FBI is on their way. What have they done since they investigated the "noose" in Bubba's garage. Good to know they're not spending any time digging into Antifa here in the homeland

 

[84miller]

hospitals are filling up fast

Current report is 3000 injured, 50 dead. Stats will change as more is known. Hospital is full, they are taking patients in the hospital parking lot. Still not much know on actual cause.

 

[LowRiver2]

Was hoping you'd be along to educate us.

Insane amount of destruction.

One of my FBI Bomb Tech counterparts has Oklahoma City the first year he was an FBI Bomb Tech. Lots of good info learned from that.

Atlanta Bomber used shaped charges as he put metal plates inside the ammo cans to direct the blast as well.

We will find out if it’s criminal (intentional) or negligent at some point.

Same Bomb Tech taught120 Large vehicle bomb classes in which 500 lbs. of ANFO were set off first day of class in a van and the next five days were figuring out the explosive train and collecting evidence: (students don’t witness explosion or see vehicles)
There was a jack in the box antenna ball placed on all 120 vans, busses.
All 120 balls (or bits of them), were located

It’s.all.there: (evidence)

 

[Carrera205]

.25 kt

 

[LowRiver2]

First Hawaii is closed and now Beirut vacations are off the list.

That country has seen so much destruction that in a week it'll be hard to know what was pre and post-blast. Whatever it was (certainly not fireworks) there's a lot more to the story.

Good thing the FBI is on their way. What have they done since they investigated the "noose" in Bubba's garage. Good to know they're not spending any time digging into Antifa here in the homeland

Joking aside, the FBI has their shit together in Post Blast evidence collection/ analysis

 

[rivermobster]

LOL they left out the part about the fireworks were made in an Aviation Thermobaric Bomb plant.

No shit. Fireworks plant. That's funny.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

You think you used enough dynamite this time Sundance?

 

[wzuber]

It's things like this that serve as a quick reminder of how lucky we are to live in the "safety" of this country, even with covid and all the other political unrest b.s we are subject to now days. May those lost souls rest in peace and those effected directly or indirectly in any manner, find solace in their faith, family or friends.

 

[wzuber]

No shit. Fireworks plant. That's funny.

And these are the very people we're supposed to rely on to provide us with accurate, factual information daily that we're supposed to use to make decisions on that directly effect the quality of our daily lives and future. Sooo comforting.......not.

 

[LowRiver2]

It's things like this that serve as a quick reminder of how lucky we are to live in the "safety" of this country, even with covid and all the other political unrest b.s we are subject to now days. May those lost souls rest in peace and those effected directly or indirectly in any manner, find solace in their faith, family or friends.

Good point:
Our community is staying ready for a Bombing campaign. It just takes someone with the intestinal fortitude to practice and learn the chemical equations and basic circuitry.

A quote I pass on to Patrol Cops when training:

No tool of violence has more long lasting psychological effects than an IED

There is something about a remote detonation that destroys everything in it’s path vs a lone gunman that really screws witn people’s heads.

 

[riverroyal]

Tri-iodide compound?

Or maybe it was a whale?

Ive watched this so many times. Love it

 

[Socalx09]

@LowRiver2 this may be a dumb question-but with the chemicals being described at the large quantity, how does that affect air quality post blast?

 

[2Driver]

Never crossed my mind until you said it, but fireworks seem like a perfect igniter and accelerant. easily obtained, easy to set off and the rest takes care of itself.

Fuck, who would have thought America would change forever because of a few guys with razor blade knives as their initial weapon

 

[4Waters]

@LowRiver2 this may be a dumb question-but with the chemicals being described at the large quantity, how does that affect air quality post blast?

That's not a dumb question actually and I will await his response but I'm sure some of it depends on what was used and how much was actually consumed in the explosion.

 

[farmo83]

The video of the shockwave hitting the boat is insane. I can't imagine being on a boat and having that come roaring across the water.

 

[LowRiver2]

@LowRiver2 this may be a dumb question-but with the chemicals being described at the large quantity, how does that affect air quality post blast?

If it was sodium or ammonia based, would be unpleasant but not fatal
Any lung injuries would be from the blast pressure

Any bad chems in air would be from burning building materials but not necessarily the explosive compounds themselves

 

[ArizonaKevin]

@LowRiver2

Is this blast big enough to be measured in kilatons? not necessarily comparable to fatman and little boy (15 kilatons) but at least 1/15th of what those unleashed?

 

[LowRiver2]

The video of the shockwave hitting the boat is insane. I can't imagine being on a boat and having that come roaring across the water.

It’s worse in water
1st thing I learned in EOD diving : 0 safe distance or shielding from blast pressure
You want to be above the water line when shit goes off underwater

 

[The Prisoner]

1. McVey made a SHAPE CHARGE:
6’x18’ length of cargo box) 1” thick steel sheet on side opposite the building inside the cargo box: EXACTLY why it directed blast into building: Combat Engineering 101

2. We’re talking a SHIP load of sodium nitrate:
In excess of 20K lbs.
It’s a water gel based explosive and was confiscated as such @RiverDave. None of us know the mix, but to say your experience make it not likely show how little you actually practiced in adding oxidizers.
The Port directors and local Police in Beruit were stupid enough to have that stored in an urban environment.
Based on the one video there were likely fireworks stored nearby or they were used to create the initial fire.

Heat/Shock/Friction: any alone or in combination can cause a deflagration. The huge amount may have helped turn this into detonation.

FBI Bomb Techs are enroute and there will be a report on How the explosive train worked.

Everyoje outside of the EOD community quickly forgets to realize the evidence is always there to figure out what happened.
The tough ones are nuclear, and this was not the case today.

I know nothing about this so why nuclear? Wouldn’t you know it from radiation?

 

[LowRiver2]

@LowRiver2

Is this blast big enough to be measured in kilatons? not necessarily comparable to fatman and little boy (15 kilatons) but at least 1/15th of what those unleashed?

That’s a debate
In theory yes
Most chemists, scientists would argue that without exact weights and mixtures of the explosive, would be hard to gauge by that .
Someone will make a guess as to roughly how close it would be measured by that scale.

 

[LowRiver2]

I know nothing about this so why nuclear? Wouldn’t you know it from radiation?

I’m saying it wasn’t nuclear
That’s all

 

[WhatExit?]

Joking aside, the FBI has their shit together in Post Blast evidence collection/ analysis

I believe they do. But still wonder what if anything they're doing to investigate (and arrest) Antifa and who is behind it (there are people with $$$ behind them).

As for this explosion, it's Beirut. It's a big mother explosion. But it's Beirut

 

[4Waters]

I believe they do. But still wonder what if anything they're doing to investigate (and arrest) Antifa and who is behind it (there are people with $$$ behind them).

As for this explosion, it's Beirut. It's a big mother explosion. But it's Beirut

LOL, there was a time that an explosion like that was just a Wednesday in Beirut.