How old is too old?

[ArizonaKevin]

The time has come for us to upgrade to a diesel pusher. Unfortunately, with the requirements that we have (king bed, opposing couches that both make beds, minimum of cummins ISL, 3 AC units) the ones that are in our budget are a little older than I would prefer. I'm less concerned about engine/chassis stuff and actually prefer pre-def, but my concern is more about old refrigerators, AC units, wiring, water tanks, roof etc

 

[Bobby_329]

Im looking at probably the same coaches you are looking at. 05-08 monaco, beaver, country coach, holiday rambler. and have been wondering the same thing. I want pre def but how is everything else at 15+ years old.

 

[outboard_256]

I just helped my friend referb a old 1995 jayco travel trailer. I was surprised how many parts we were still able to get to fix stuff from internal heater partrs, toliet parts, fridge parts, etc. Stuff like water pump, a/c, inverter we just replaced with new stuff. Tanks were still in good condition but replaced dump valves. Labor might get expensive if you are not doing it yourself. Stuff you want to stay away from is mold, dryrot and rust. Once you start chasing those it gets expensive.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Im looking at probably the same coaches you are looking at. 05-08 monaco, beaver, country coach, holiday rambler. and have been wondering the same thing. I want pre def but how is everything else at 15+ years old.

I just looked at this one, it's in great condition. My wife would just rather have newer, to my eye the newer ones aren't built as well as this era overall it's just the individual components that scare me

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[69hondo]

The time has come for us to upgrade to a diesel pusher. Unfortunately, with the requirements that we have (king bed, opposing couches that both make beds, minimum of cummins ISL, 3 AC units) the ones that are in our budget are a little older than I would prefer. I'm less concerned about engine/chassis stuff and actually prefer pre-def, but my concern is more about old refrigerators, AC units, wiring, water tanks, roof etc

I went through this earlier this year. I spent a lot of time and research on drive train.

We ended up with a Tiffin Allegro bus 40QDP. 8.9 cummins ISL. Opposing slides with opposing couches. king size bed. etc. Ours has the Norcold double door fridge and freezer. It has a coule recalls and the previous owner had them taken care of. The roofs on the pushers are usually one piece fiberglass so all you have to worry about is resealing around things like vents and skylights. Water tank I would think would be good but maybe a water pump. Look at the water heater if it has it or aqua hot to make sure not rusted out. If you are looking on the east coast they are better priced but be aware of rusted out areas. AC units are going to be a gamble I guess but you should be able to get a good idea of how it was cared for from the sellers. Ours are dual stage AC and heat pumps so if it has those make sure it works both ways.

 

[69hondo]

Here is an older thread I started that has some good info in it from other members with pushers.

Class A advice

So we have been rocking our 2000 Itasca 33v for 6 years now. For the most part she has been good to us. Fuel pump has really been the only major issue other than typical shit. We have been wanting to move to a diesel pusher, how ever I keep reading horror stories about them. Seems even the...

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[evantwheeler]

The time has come for us to upgrade to a diesel pusher. Unfortunately, with the requirements that we have (king bed, opposing couches that both make beds, minimum of cummins ISL, 3 AC units) the ones that are in our budget are a little older than I would prefer. I'm less concerned about engine/chassis stuff and actually prefer pre-def, but my concern is more about old refrigerators, AC units, wiring, water tanks, roof etc

You're going to spend a shit load on a coach anyhow, you either pay it up front with a documented rig, or after purchase. Sometimes you pay up front, and keep on paying afterwards. They all have tons of little things that will just bleed you to death.

I'd definitely be concerned about the chassis and engine over the interior and AC. It's amazing how much better an outboard airbag coach will drive and handle versus others. It's like they're on rails. Never get pushed around by the wind. I tow a 10k enclosed anytime I am driving my coach as it's my tow rig, and it drives/tows amazing. Replace the old 12v/propane fridge with a 120v household unit, no sweat. My coach just sat unplugged for a week with the 120v fridge running powered by the inverter and 4 rooftop solar panels putting juice back into the (3) 8d Lifeline batteries. If I'm dry camping 1hr generator in the AM to cook breakfast and 1 hr generator in the PM to cook dinner. I have zero regrets going to household fridge.

I would look at early 2000's Holiday Ramblers. Some of them came with the IMS450 and they seem to have some good layouts and interiors. I would say don't count out a Foretravel, but they only have a single living room slide, and not many have bedroom slides. They're more setup for just a couple, but the U320 models have the ISM450. Everyone in our group bitches about the power of their coach and two couples just went and spent over $200k for a newer fancier higher powered coach. My ISM 450 coach (2000 Foretravel U320 40') will still out pull them all , and while its not as nice and fancy inside, I'm into it for around $50k.

 

[evantwheeler]

My boss has a 2007 Country Coach, he has been stranded in Idaho twice due to the emissions system. I would 100% not buy an emissions equipped coach. If you must, delete it immediately.

 

[mjc]

I got an 08 super C a few years ago. I wanted something pre major emissions and I figured all the crappy build stuff would be fixed by then. So far it has been a great rv nothing has really failed so far. I replaced the fridge with a 12v compressor model and added more solar and lithium.

 

[Riverhound 2.0]

I went through this process a couple of years ago and ended up buying a 2005 Country Coach Inspire 40ft. Cat C-9 (400hp) Allison MH3000 trans an in-house built Dynomax chassis. I drove several brands, and the independent front suspension on the C.C. just drove so much better, IMO. In that era, Tiffan, Monaco, and Beaver also made some nice stuff. Monaco was actually run by Bob Lee, the founder of Country Coach, so you'll find a lot of similarities between the brands.

A couple of takeaways from my shopping/comparison experience. Get the most HP you can. A 300 or 350HP isn't going to get it done on the hills, especially if towing. The layout is key, don't settle for we'll make it work because after spending any time in it, you'll regret it. Water intrusion is the kiss of death ($$$$). A good professional inspection is worth its weight in gold. A side radiator also became a must-have, with better cooling and better access to the engine.

We focused on the 2000- 2007 pre-def coaches and found most of them to be built very well compared to today's standards.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

I went through this process a couple of years ago and ended up buying a 2005 Country Coach Inspire 40ft. Cat C-9 (400hp) Allison MH3000 trans an in-house built Dynomax chassis. I drove several brands, and the independent front suspension on the C.C. just drove so much better, IMO. In that era, Tiffan, Monaco, and Beaver also made some nice stuff. Monaco was actually run by Bob Lee, the founder of Country Coach, so you'll find a lot of similarities between the brands.

A couple of takeaways from my shopping/comparison experience. Get the most HP you can. A 300 or 350HP isn't going to get it done on the hills, especially if towing. The layout is key, don't settle for we'll make it work because after spending any time in it, you'll regret it. Water intrusion is the kiss of death ($$$$). A good professional inspection is worth its weight in gold. A side radiator also became a must-have, with better cooling and better access to the engine.

We focused on the 2000- 2007 pre-def coaches and found most of them to be built very well compared to today's standards.

Thank you for that insight, have you ran into problems with the non-country coach parts of the unit during your ownership? Things like refrigerator, AC, aqua hot (if applicable), leveling systems etc etc

 

[Riverhound 2.0]

A few small items… Lost a circuit board for the slide system but was able to find a replacement pretty easy. Replacement the temp sender for the water heater. Broke a couple shear bolts on the slides but was able to replace them easily. I changed out the thermostat to a WiFi unit not out of need but want. Now I can keep an eye on the interior temp in the coach when we have the dogs out with us.

I went through the entire coach and documented all the part and serial numbers for every functional item and searched everything online so I knew what was available and where. So far everything seems to available and supported.

Outside of normal maintenance items, engine, trans & generator services, all of which I do myself, I’ve had no real issues.

 

[Ladsm]

I just bought a 2002 Holiday Rambler 38' 8.3 Cummins but it was from the Original owner and always parked inside a garage with the airbags deflated and jacks down. Owner knew every detail about its whole life with every service record. The biggest thing I found shopping was the early 2000s were very sun roached and every plastic piece disintegrated.

 

[Shrub Lurker]

Whatever ya buy have it inspected. There is so much shit that can wrong. Ours is 20 years old. We love this thing, but I can work on shit and have and will continue to.
Ours is a Newmar and we got it on sale.

 

[LakeMead Boater]

In June, we bought a 2000 Safari Zanzibar with a Cat 330 in it. As far as age is concerned, it didn't bother me one bit with the items inside. I viewed most of the items inside as "replaceable" (fridge, AC's, couches.). And as we went along, we can update items- couches, tv's, some cabinetry, etc. to modernize it. But the big items like the AC's and fridge are replaced pretty regularly in older coaches like mine based on what I see in the forums. My thought was avoiding the coaches that had a ton of electronics in them because trying to chase that through a coach would be incredibly difficult.

My parent's have a 2006 Country Coach and they went through the same dilemma of buying a newer coach or just updating theirs. They ended up sending theirs back to Oregon and they modernized the entire inside of the coach (flooring, some furniture, etc) as well as fixing some paint issues and the coach looks brand new.

Long story short, to an extent, age isn't a big concern.

Wanted to add one thing. When I bought it, the original inverter was bad and jury rigged. It ended up failing and I replaced it along with 5 batteries. Even being 23 years old, it was a simple plug and play swap that took an hour or so. No issues getting parts and now everything works as it should.

 

[spectras only]

Friend has a 2011 Newmar Dutchstar he's trying to sell. While it drives nice, a potential buyer wanted to have a test of the unit, finding out it was down on power. Required a new turbo, 6K. Mohos don't sell now, tons of beautiful units on market place.
Another thing, older units need new roofs most likely. I'd look for models with fiberglass roofs.

 

[EmpirE231]

Thank you for that insight, have you ran into problems with the non-country coach parts of the unit during your ownership? Things like refrigerator, AC, aqua hot (if applicable), leveling systems etc etc

I've seen just as many problems on these listed items on new ones as much as I have seen on older ones. It all comes down to care and maintenance. these are RV's.... things will go wrong and need attention. Most of the stuff you listed is fairly on the inexpensive side of repairs.

A pre DEF monaco, country coach, American coach or Newmar, Tiffin would be on the short list. Look for one that's been well kept, and you'll be able to tell from talking to the owner within 5 minutes.

The more cool features you get, the more shit to go wrong.

We have pretty much the same floorplan you mentioned, and with a full wall slide. It is a game change with kids. It is like staying in a small condo. Also I was hesitant about a residential fridge initially.... but that is a game changer a well, and a must now. One old-school feature I wish we had still is a propane stove.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

I am very much on the same page of all of the above, if I had my way I would probably already have that Monaco I linked above. Unfortunately, my parents (who sold their 2010 Phaeton for a 2021 Phaeton to get "better technology" and because "they were worried things would start breaking") have been in my wife's ear that an 09 like that is way too old.

To get our list of "must haves" in a newer coach, we'd have to add ~$100k to our budget. ~$100k could fix a lot of broken shit in that Monaco...

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Forgot to add, the best part is that my parents have had nothing but problems with their 2021. Driver side wall is starting to delaminate above the driver window, they had a DEF head failure this summer while on the way to havasu, and just recently had to replace the fridge because the LG compressor died.

 

[DLC]

I know you don’t want to buy a 15 year old coach w/ 10,000 miles, Look for something that was actually used.
I think just sitting for a long time is worse than being used regularly

 

[EmpirE231]

Forgot to add, the best part is that my parents have had nothing but problems with their 2021. Driver side wall is starting to delaminate above the driver window, they had a DEF head failure this summer while on the way to havasu, and just recently had to replace the fridge because the LG compressor died.

Both my neighbors have newer 2021 & 2022 tiffin phaetons. Couldn’t count the # of times I’ve seen a mobile repair guy in the driveway.

One of them is currently trying to lemon law it or file lawsuit.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

I know you don’t want to buy a 15 year old coach w/ 10,000 miles, Look for something that was actually used.
I think just sitting for a long time is worse than being used regularly

Agreed!

Both my neighbors have newer 2021 & 2022 tiffin phaetons. Couldn’t count the # of times I’ve seen a mobile repair guy in the driveway.

One of them is currently trying to lemon law it or file lawsuit.

I almost think that my parents are trying to justify their decision to sell their perfectly fine 2010 Phaeton and spend $300k on a brand new one by telling us how much of a "mistake" it would be to buy an old one.

What year/make/model is yours? Floorplan in that picture looks great

 

[EmpirE231]

Agreed!



I almost think that my parents are trying to justify their decision to sell their perfectly fine 2010 Phaeton and spend $300k on a brand new one by telling us how much of a "mistake" it would be to buy an old one.

What year/make/model is yours? Floorplan in that picture looks great

Yeah sounds like it.

Mine is a 2011 American coach revolution. Have owned it now for 2 years. Definitely a few issues along the way.... had the dreaded DEF head failure. But according to the previous owner, who seemed very honest, said he never had an issue with it. So if it's one DEF head every 10 years, that doesn't seem like a big issue (def head problems are more common in rigs newer than 2015-2016 due to adding more sensors in the units). Time will tell, but it was a $800 part w/ $800 in labor. Had 1 inverter go out (this coach has 2.... 1k for a replacement. 1 toilet seal is bad ($50) and an hour or two of my time. Needed new batteries, but that is a wear / tear item anyway.... but downside is this rig had 8 batteries, previous had 4.... Hence the nicer it is, the more shit to go wrong. Overall, that isn't a crazy amount of maintenance considering these things are 150-200K used. It kinda comes with the territory.

I definitely think you need to sort of be a jack of all trades / semi handy and willing to work on these things yourself to own one of these..... or else you will be spending on ton on maintenance and repairs

previous rig was a 2007 Fleetwood discovery pre-def (had it for 5 years). Granted it had way less problems, but also way less features. 1 inverter that we almost rarely used due to only having 4 batteries. Had to replace 1 toilet, but it only had 1 toilet etc. fogged windows, 1 slide issue that I was able to fix myself, new batteries. Fridge in that thing sucked in any sort of Summer heat (propane rv fridge)

we tow a pretty heavy trailer and needed the bigger power (cummins ISL 450 now). This American coach we have now tows and drives like a dream.... seriously feel like I'm driving a big cadillac. The king size bed and floorplan definitely make staying it much more enjoyable.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Yeah sounds like it.

Mine is a 2011 American coach revolution. Have owned it now for 2 years. Definitely a few issues along the way.... had the dreaded DEF head failure. But according to the previous owner, who seemed very honest, said he never had an issue with it. So if it's one DEF head every 10 years, that doesn't seem like a big issue (def head problems are more common in rigs newer than 2015-2016 due to adding more sensors in the units). Time will tell, but it was a $800 part w/ $800 in labor. Had 1 inverter go out (this coach has 2.... 1k for a replacement. 1 toilet seal is bad ($50) and an hour or two of my time. Needed new batteries, but that is a wear / tear item anyway.... but downside is this rig had 8 batteries, previous had 4.... Hence the nicer it is, the more shit to go wrong. Overall, that isn't a crazy amount of maintenance considering these things are 150-200K used. It kinda comes with the territory.

I definitely think you need to sort of be a jack of all trades / semi handy and willing to work on these things yourself to own one of these..... or else you will be spending on ton on maintenance and repairs

previous rig was a 2007 Fleetwood discovery pre-def (had it for 5 years). Granted it had way less problems, but also way less features. 1 inverter that we almost rarely used due to only having 4 batteries. Had to replace 1 toilet, but it only had 1 toilet etc. fogged windows, 1 slide issue that I was able to fix myself, new batteries. Fridge in that thing sucked in any sort of Summer heat (propane rv fridge)

we tow a pretty heavy trailer and needed the bigger power (cummins ISL 450 now). This American coach we have now tows and drives like a dream.... seriously feel like I'm driving a big cadillac. The king size bed and floorplan definitely make staying it much more enjoyable.

Ah, my Grandparents have a 2013 42T!

I am relatively handy and have fixed some things on current one, but as I've gotten older and have more responsibilities at work and home I am often left with a "how much is my own time worth?" sort of trade off.

 

[EmpirE231]

Ah, my Grandparents have a 2013 42T!

I am relatively handy and have fixed some things on current one, but as I've gotten older and have more responsibilities at work and home I am often left with a "how much is my own time worth?" sort of trade off.

Good rigs! ours is a 42W

yeah I'm in the same boat as you mentioned.... so I balance what I'd do myself with what I'll sub out. The DEF head I paid labor to have done... inverter I swapped myself etc but even outside of that, fixes on the spot to not ruin a trip... this is where people get pinched and have to pay top dollar for repairs.

preventative maintenance and knowing things to look for will help you get ahead of most repairs. Ex.... my water pump acted up a little bit after our last trip, but has continued to work just fine. I ordered a replacement anyway and have it sitting in a side compartment ready to go at any minute. Pump worked flawlessly on the most recent trip, but now I have it there just incase, so it wont ruin a week long trip in the desert. I have boxes of spare parts and maintenance items just incase

 

[69hondo]

Good rigs! ours is a 42W

yeah I'm in the same boat as you mentioned.... so I balance what I'd do myself with what I'll sub out. The DEF head I paid labor to have done... inverter I swapped myself etc but even outside of that, fixes on the spot to not ruin a trip... this is where people get pinched and have to pay top dollar for repairs.

preventative maintenance and knowing things to look for will help you get ahead of most repairs. Ex.... my water pump acted up a little bit after our last trip, but has continued to work just fine. I ordered a replacement anyway and have it sitting in a side compartment ready to go at any minute. Pump worked flawlessly on the most recent trip, but now I have it there just incase, so it wont ruin a week long trip in the desert. I have boxes of spare parts and maintenance items just incase

LOL, I just did this as well. old pump works but was acting weird. went a head and ordered it and now its in a box in the next compartment. Thought I fixed my rear furnace heater but it didnt work for thanks giving so I got to look into that again.

 

[EmpirE231]

LOL, I just did this as well. old pump works but was acting weird. went a head and ordered it and now its in a box in the next compartment. Thought I fixed my rear furnace heater but it didnt work for thanks giving so I got to look into that again.

propane style heaters? did you hit it with an air compressor blow gun? I had one stop working on the discovery, and all it took was blowing out a bunch of sand and dust with an air compressor.

 

[evantwheeler]

I went through this process a couple of years ago and ended up buying a 2005 Country Coach Inspire 40ft. Cat C-9 (400hp) Allison MH3000 trans an in-house built Dynomax chassis. I drove several brands, and the independent front suspension on the C.C. just drove so much better, IMO. In that era, Tiffan, Monaco, and Beaver also made some nice stuff. Monaco was actually run by Bob Lee, the founder of Country Coach, so you'll find a lot of similarities between the brands.

A couple of takeaways from my shopping/comparison experience. Get the most HP you can. A 300 or 350HP isn't going to get it done on the hills, especially if towing. The layout is key, don't settle for we'll make it work because after spending any time in it, you'll regret it. Water intrusion is the kiss of death ($$$$). A good professional inspection is worth its weight in gold. A side radiator also became a must-have, with better cooling and better access to the engine.

We focused on the 2000- 2007 pre-def coaches and found most of them to be built very well compared to today's standards.

This is all spot on.

 

[evantwheeler]

I've seen just as many problems on these listed items on new ones as much as I have seen on older ones. It all comes down to care and maintenance. these are RV's.... things will go wrong and need attention. Most of the stuff you listed is fairly on the inexpensive side of repairs.

A pre DEF monaco, country coach, American coach or Newmar, Tiffin would be on the short list. Look for one that's been well kept, and you'll be able to tell from talking to the owner within 5 minutes.

The more cool features you get, the more shit to go wrong.

We have pretty much the same floorplan you mentioned, and with a full wall slide. It is a game change with kids. It is like staying in a small condo. Also I was hesitant about a residential fridge initially.... but that is a game changer a well, and a must now. One old-school feature I wish we had still is a propane stove.

View attachment 1308495

That is the best interior layout I've seen from a double slide coach. Usually they have a shitty table and regular chairs and a couple of loungers. This is perfect.

 

[69hondo]

propane style heaters? did you hit it with an air compressor blow gun? I had one stop working on the discovery, and all it took was blowing out a bunch of sand and dust with an air compressor.

Yeah it has two propane heaters(furnaces) and two electric heat pumps. I was using the propane furnaces while dry camping.

I think the clipo the control plug is broke and the plug keeps falling out. Whn I fixed it it was just laying next to where it needed to be plugged in. I plugged it in and it worked great. Drove to desert no worky. LOL

 

[EmpirE231]

That is the best interior layout I've seen from a double slide coach. Usually they have a shitty table and regular chairs and a couple of loungers. This is perfect.

Thanks man! I always like the booth dinette vs the chairs.... and the opposing couches is something I've always liked. One side is a fold out bed, and the other is a jackknife bed. The cool part is you can still easily walk through this with the slides in.

our discovery had a very similar layout... but no full wall slide

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I just looked at this one, it's in great condition. My wife would just rather have newer, to my eye the newer ones aren't built as well as this era overall it's just the individual components that scare me

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Whats this cost in todays world?

 

[Bobby_329]

I've seen just as many problems on these listed items on new ones as much as I have seen on older ones. It all comes down to care and maintenance. these are RV's.... things will go wrong and need attention. Most of the stuff you listed is fairly on the inexpensive side of repairs.

A pre DEF monaco, country coach, American coach or Newmar, Tiffin would be on the short list. Look for one that's been well kept, and you'll be able to tell from talking to the owner within 5 minutes.

The more cool features you get, the more shit to go wrong.

We have pretty much the same floorplan you mentioned, and with a full wall slide. It is a game change with kids. It is like staying in a small condo. Also I was hesitant about a residential fridge initially.... but that is a game changer a well, and a must now. One old-school feature I wish we had still is a propane stove.

View attachment 1308495

a lot of people say stay away from the full wall slide have you had any problems? It makes such a big difference on the layout so much more room.

Whats this cost in today’s world?

I think it was posted for 135

 

[Ol Man]

Add Alpine Coach to the list of older motorhomes to consider. We had a 2001 that we had owned for 15 years with really very few issues. We sold it some years back an bought a 2014 Phaeton, which is considered a nice coach; but the build quality is far from the Alpine. If looking at early 2000s coaches, consider also the Country Coach, the Beaver, Newmar and the Monaco.

 

[ArizonaKevin]

Whats this cost in todays world?

They're asking 125

 

[EmpirE231]

a lot of people say stay away from the full wall slide have you had any problems? It makes such a big difference on the layout so much more room.

I think it was posted for 135

Never had an issue with that full wall slide. Just have to make sure the coach is running when putting them in / bringing it out.

 

[BRONCOBOY]

I have a 2003 Beaver Monterey, 3 slide 350 hp Cummins rear radiator. Owned it since new and it hard to find a reason to sell it (paid for), the Monoco brands were built solid and I have had very few issues, 1 fridge, 1 microwave and the rest is general maintenance or upgrades. I am now towing a heavier enclosed trailer 10,000 # and now wish I had a dual stage engine brake and more power but you always want more power. Clean uninterrupted run up Cajon I crest the top at 38MPH. A great coach would be a Beaver Patriot Thunder 500hp 40ft tag axle 4 slide.

 

[DLC]

Thanks man! I always like the booth dinette vs the chairs.... and the opposing couches is something I've always liked. One side is a fold out bed, and the other is a jackknife bed. The cool part is you can still easily walk through this with the slides in.

our discovery had a very similar layout... but no full wall slide

View attachment 1308749 View attachment 1308750

So we are different …

We don’t like the booth dinette - prefer chairs, only 2 of us, also like 2 recliners or a theater style seating instead on 2 couch’s

 

[JENKS]

The time has come for us to upgrade to a diesel pusher. Unfortunately, with the requirements that we have (king bed, opposing couches that both make beds, minimum of cummins ISL, 3 AC units) the ones that are in our budget are a little older than I would prefer. I'm less concerned about engine/chassis stuff and actually prefer pre-def, but my concern is more about old refrigerators, AC units, wiring, water tanks, roof etc

This is a nice coach!

Thread '2006 Fleetwood Discovery 39L Diesel Pusher' https://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/threads/2006-fleetwood-discovery-39l-diesel-pusher.278740/

 

[EmpirE231]

another thing to consider if you are going w/ an older coach and doing the llc route....

10 yr and older coaches get permanent plates. Talk about a reduced cost of ownership over the years.....

 

[Bobby_329]

another thing to consider if you are going w/ an older coach and doing the llc route....

10 yr and older coaches get permanent plates. Talk about a reduced cost of ownership over the years.....

I didn't know that. Is that just certain states or all?

 

[EmpirE231]

I didn't know that. Is that just certain states or all?

Montana.... not sure about others.

 

[SW_GLASS]

I didn't know that. Is that just certain states or all?

Cant talk for how the LLC works or how much registration is in other states but in AZ my 2001 National RV Tradewinds 35FT DP cost 100 dollars a year to register and 12.25 a year for smog. I only have to smog it cause I register it in Tucson. If you register it anywhere in AZ beside Phoenix or Tucson then smog is not required.

 

[n2otoofast4u]

I have been watching this one for a bit as the price has dropped. Big HP, all the goodies from that era.

2007 beaver marquis diesel for sale - Portland, OR - craigslist

2007 Beaver marquis Diesel 43FT TAG AXLE 78,000 miles 600HP Caterpillar Diesel 3 SLIDES Very luxurious RV! MORE INFO COMEING SOON EASY FINANCING✅ EXTENDED WARRANTY WE TAKE TRADE INS✅ BEST DEALS...

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[Bobby_329]

I have been watching this one for a bit as the price has dropped. Big HP, all the goodies from that era.

2007 beaver marquis diesel for sale - Portland, OR - craigslist

2007 Beaver marquis Diesel 43FT TAG AXLE 78,000 miles 600HP Caterpillar Diesel 3 SLIDES Very luxurious RV! MORE INFO COMEING SOON EASY FINANCING✅ EXTENDED WARRANTY WE TAKE TRADE INS✅ BEST DEALS...

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https://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2007-Monaco-EXECUTIVE+44+DENALI+IV-5026362249

I like this one but there are some horror stories out there about the ISX dropping valves.

 

[JL95]

Easiest way to finance one of these older coaches? Take out a second or do an rv loan? I have wanted a tag axle rig since i was 5.

 

[c_land]

Easiest way to finance one of these older coaches? Take out a second or do an rv loan? I have wanted a tag axle rig since i was 5.

@Englewood

 

[Englewood]

Easiest way to finance one of these older coaches? Take out a second or do an rv loan? I have wanted a tag axle rig since i was 5.

We can go back to 2003 (will be 2004 after Jan 1).