How many hrs is too many for an OB.. 2012 Yamaha 150

[WildHorses24]

Thought I'd throw this in the Lounge for more traction..... (move if too much boating content)

Been kicking around the idea of an ocean boat for a while and kind of landed on Parker Boats. Looking at a 2012 Parker 2120 with a Yamaha 150 but has 1240hrs, claims to have service records for regular maintenance intervals. Buddies that own fishing boats don't blink an eye and claim it's better than buying a boat that just sits with no hours. What say the "experts" here and what would you look for in the service receipts? I assume I'd be lucky to see 2000hrs before major rebuild/replacement, so probably need to factor that in my purchase decision.

 

[Cole Trickle]

@rivergames

No idea but I really like those Parkers and the Yamahas seem to be the go to for ocean guys.

 

[Racey]

For a low HP motor like that i would think 2000 hrs is easily doable.

2000 hrs was easily doable with the old Merc 330hp 454 motors.

 

[rivergames]

Pull the Tigger. You're going to LOVE it. Perfect for a weekend in Catalina. Perfect to tow down to fish San Diego.

I've heard Coast Guards have 4,500+ hours on their outboards. You need to maintenance often.

I sold a 2005 Yamaha 225 that was on my Parker for $7,500. She had (From what I remember) 2,400 hours on her.

I purchased a used F300 out of Florida with 124 hours on it.

My 2005 2320. I purchased this boat in 2016. I have completed a 1/2 Tuna Tower, Ice chest on roof, WOT Marine added all new electronics and hooked up the newer F300 that I mounted on her. I had Kokopelli Trailers in Phoenix build me a new Aluminum Trailer.

 

[WildHorses24]

@rivergames

No idea but I really like those Parkers and the Yamahas seem to be the go to for ocean guys.

Buddy has a Parker 2540 and we've been from San Clemente Island to Butterfly Bank in big seas then back to HB Harbor (120 Nautical Miles) and I felt pretty comfortable.

 

[WildHorses24]

Pull the Tigger. You're going to LOVE it. Perfect for a weekend in Catalina. Perfect to tow down to fish San Diego.

I've heard Coast Guards have 4,500+ hours on their outboards. You need to maintenance often.

I sold a 2005 Yamaha 225 that was on my Parker for $7,500. She had (From what I remember) 2,400 hours on her.

I purchased a used F300 out of Florida with 124 hours on it.

My 2005 2320. I purchased this boat in 2016. I have completed a 1/2 Tuna Tower, Ice chest on roof, WOT Marine added all new electronics and hooked up the newer F300 that I mounted on her. I had Kokopelli Trailers in Phoenix build me a new Aluminum Trailer.


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That's a bitchen set up!
Thanks for the input, I'm worried the 2120 is a little small... but I don't see myself going out too far, just want to get my boys (11 & 13) out fishing more and cruise NP Harbor with the old lady! I was thinking the 2120 is small enough to haul up to Sierra lakes too?

 

[rivergames]

That's a bitchen set up!
Thanks for the input, I'm worried the 2120 is a little small... but I don't see myself going out too far, just want to get my boys (11 & 13) out fishing more and cruise NP Harbor with the old lady! I was thinking the 2120 is small enough to haul up to Sierra lakes too?

My good buddy has a 2110 that he takes to Catalina & SCI all the time. Once in a while, we anchor up next to each other on a beach and camp out for the weekend. You drive to the Islands early in the morning and it's usually pretty nice out (depending on the swell). Typically the wind picks up in the afternoon. If there is a good swell out, you typically ride it back to the launch ramp (depending where you launch).

A few years ago, I took my 2320, my uncle/cousin had their 2320 and my buddy AK had is 21' fishing boat and we launched at Mission Bay (San Diego) and cruised 65 miles to the Lower Hidden Banks (about 30 miles east of Ensenada) and then stayed the night in Ensenada. The next morning, we refueled in the marina and headed back out to the Upper Hidden Bank and then back to Mission Bay. Great weekend of fishing.

You will be fine for some great times fishing on a 2120. I did purchase a 4 person quick inflatable life raft in case my boat sinks for whatever reason in the middle of the ocean. Better Safe than sorry.

 

[92562]

With regular maintenance, 4000+ easily.

 

[Bajastu]

My brother has a Parker 23 or 25' with twin Yamaha 150's and he said thay 2000 hours is easy on the Yamahas.

The Parker sport cabins are such a killer boat to use in the ocean.

 

[cofooter]

My 1992 Yamaha Pro-V 200 2 stroke on my ski boat says 2700 hours on the clock. Those are key ON hrs though so probably a bit less actual running hrs. I took the oil injection off 10 yrs ago and pre-mix now and she runs better than ever. Every year I think I'm going to have to buy a new motor, and every year she runs just as strong........

 

[WildHorses24]

My brother has a Parker 23 or 25' with twin Yamaha 150's and he said thay 2000 hours is easy on the Yamahas.

The Parker sport cabins are such a killer boat to use in the ocean.

Buddies Parker 25 has 150s, first set let go at 1800/ 1900 hrs, newer set has 1000 hrs and still running strong. I can't imagine putting 100hrs a year on it but you never know!

 

[Xring01]

I sold a set of 2006 Yamaha 250s with 2900 hours on them… problem free the entire time

Sold a set of several other sets of Yamaha 750 - 1500 hrs
Sold a set of Honda 130s over 900 hrs

I can keep going…

Easily expect 4000 hours out of a yamaha 4 stroke outboard if its been properly maintained….

As others have stated… I have seen Coast guard Yamahas at Auction with over 8000 hrs, and heard of some with over 16,000 hours that where still running.
BLEW MY MIND… Obvioulsy they probably had lots of idling… but DAMN..

As far as I am concerned… NOTHING COMPARES to Yamaha 4 stroke outboards. Especially for a salt water fishing applications.

I have owned 3 - Yamaha 150s… Set on one boat, and a single on a deck boat… Stupid simple to maintain, and I never had one problem what so ever with any of them… Just routine maintenance, fuel filters, thermostats etc… Follow the recommended maintenance intervals.

The HPDI 2 Strokes… those can have some issues… I sold a set of 200hp’s with 775 hrs, when I bought the 250 4 strokes.

 

[cofooter]

As far as I am concerned… NOTHING COMPARES to Yamaha 4 stroke outboards. Especially for a salt water fishing applications.

Except maybe a Yamaha 2-stroke

 

[Xring01]

@WildHorses24, IMHO, a 25ft Parker with Twin 150s is slightly underpowered. My buddy had that exact set up, Pilot House with Tuna Tower and a 36 gallon bait tank…

It ran very good, but,,, IMHO slightly under powered, when fully loaded.. It should have had 200hps…. The cruising RPMs would be lower and probably consume less fuel than the 150s…

THATS TRULY NITPICKING, I would not pass up well maintained boat over that alone.

 

[WildHorses24]

@WildHorses24, IMHO, a 25ft Parker with Twin 150s is slightly underpowered. My buddy had that exact set up, Pilot House with Tuna Tower and a 36 gallon bait tank…

It ran very good, but,,, IMHO slightly under powered, when fully loaded.. It should have had 200hps…. The cruising RPMs would be lower and probably consume less fuel than the 150s…

THATS TRULY NITPICKING, I would not pass up well maintained boat over that alone.

When he bought it new they equipped it with 115s!!! He knew it was under powered then and is talking about a 3rd set and maybe going bigger.

 

[rivergames]

It's easy to put 10-12 hours on a motor each day of deep sea fishing.

If you go out into the middle of the ocean and fish all day, the last thing you want to do is turn off the engine (In case starter stops working). Plus it keeps the batteries charged while running the bait tank, wash down pump, & stereo.

If I am fishing a adrift at Catalina, I leave my motor running. When I anchor up, I shut it off.

If I moor in Avalon or Two Harbors, I shut the motor off. I let it run for about 30 minutes before bed to charge up the batteries and keep my bait tank running all night. I have 3 batteries on switch #1 and 1 battery on switch #2 (in case the batteries on switch #1 die).

 

[Xring01]

It's easy to put 10-12 hours on a motor each day of deep sea fishing.

If you go out into the middle of the ocean and fish all day, the last thing you want to do is turn off the engine (In case starter stops working). Plus it keeps the batteries charged while running the bait tank, wash down pump, & stereo.

If I am fishing a adrift at Catalina, I leave my motor running. When I anchor up, I shut it off.

If I moor in Avalon or Two Harbors, I shut the motor off. I let it run for about 30 minutes before bed to charge up the batteries and keep my bait tank running all night. I have 3 batteries on switch #1 and 1 battery on switch #2 (in case the batteries on switch #1 die).

I was a diehard fisherman out of San Diego for many many many years.
If your running dual engines, with dedicated starting batteries and dedicated “house“ batterys… obviously the bait tank/electronics are tied to the house system. Which is completely isolated from the “starting” batterys. Each Starting battery, is isolated to that one engine, and not tied to both engines…

Shutting the engines off is never an issue… Thats the key reason why you see in my earlier post on this thread, that I had several different sets of outboards over the years… because I set up all my boats this way… for this reason, and RELIABILITY… Worst case for me, was running jumper cables from the house batterys to the engine battery… Yes I had cables for that reason, but rarely if ever used them. Modern electronics have very good battery monitoring systems to alarm at a given setpoint.

There are some fisherman who believe being dead silent in the water, results in higher catch rate.
In some respects, I do believe it can help… but when a fish has not had anything to eat in a few days, they will eat anything… But when they full and picky, shutting the engines off is worth considering. Especially if you chunking for tuna, long drifts, sharks, rock cod/halibut.. I can keep going…

 

[YoPengo]

I sold boats on the East Coast for 6 years (Including Center Consoles). Four Stroke Yamahas are the gold standard. 2000 + hours on a well maintained engine is not a problem. We had lake patrol and fire boats with 4,000 + hours on them. Early Yamaha 350's did have flywheel issues. Parker builds a nice boat. A Sportsman Heritage 231 with a Yamaha 300 is on my wish list. https://www.sportsmanboatsmfg.com/heritage/231-center-console

 

[rivergames]

I was a diehard fisherman out of San Diego for many many many years.
If your running dual engines, with dedicated starting batteries and dedicated “house“ batterys… obviously the bait tank/electronics are tied to the house system. Which is completely isolated from the “starting” batterys. Each Starting battery, is isolated to that one engine, and not tied to both engines…

Shutting the engines off is never an issue… Thats the key reason why you see in my earlier post on this thread, that I had several different sets of outboards over the years… because I set up all my boats this way… for this reason, and RELIABILITY… Worst case for me, was running jumper cables from the house batterys to the engine battery… Yes I had cables for that reason, but rarely if ever used them. Modern electronics have very good battery monitoring systems to alarm at a given setpoint.

There are some fisherman who believe being dead silent in the water, results in higher catch rate.
In some respects, I do believe it can help… but when a fish has not had anything to eat in a few days, they will eat anything… But when they full and picky, shutting the engines off is worth considering. Especially if you chunking for tuna, long drifts, sharks, rock cod/halibut.. I can keep going…

I do believe what you said is true. Better chance at fish biting without the sound of the motor.

Years back and a few boats before my Parker, I was lobstering at dusk and set my 10 traps. I pulled off and shut the motor off to float and fish while my nets hopefully loaded up. 30 minutes later, I tried to start the outboard and nothing. Dead Starter. Luckily I was just out of the breakwall. My buddy and I paddled the Summa Bitch and collected all 10 nets. Even picked up a few keepers.

It was right at that moment where I told myself I ain't shutting my motor off in the open ocean or adrift.

Now, one day down the road when I have a few extra dollars and have 2 motors on a fishing boat, I'll shut them off in the open ocean. I guess I could always purchase a spare starter.

 

[Xring01]

I do believe what you said is true. Better chance at fish biting without the sound of the motor.

Years back and a few boats before my Parker, I was lobstering at dusk and set my 10 traps. I pulled off and shut the motor off to float and fish while my nets hopefully loaded up. 30 minutes later, I tried to start the outboard and nothing. Dead Starter. Luckily I was just out of the breakwall. My buddy and I paddled the Summa Bitch and collected all 10 nets. Even picked up a few keepers.

It was right at that moment where I told myself I ain't shutting my motor off in the open ocean or adrift.

Now, one day down the road when I have a few extra dollars and have 2 motors on a fishing boat, I'll shut them off in the open ocean. I guess I could always purchase a spare starter.

Yep…
I rigged my boats, knowing the break wall was 100 miles away…

Until you have been a captain… 100 miles off shore….




With your kids and zero back up….

Then you truly understand, why! You build fail safe systems…

But I had the benefit of being on a fast attack sub for many years, before I was in those positions.

Before I had kids…fuck I would take 19ft Klamath 100miles off shore with Jerry cans.

But after I had kids and being 100 miles offshore… yeah… Shit gets real in a hurry.

No BS…. When my son was 4 years old, we would be south of Ensanada at 4am, and still motoring south to set lines at grey light…

Many Many Many times on our way North, Pull into Ensanada to top off on fuel, just to make back to San Diego..

Literally 2 of us on the boat, Me and 4-5 year old..

We slayed fish.. Fortunately for me, My son loved catching 150lb tuna, 100 lb humbolt squid, 500 makos… etc etc etc..

But as a parent… you better have failsafe systems in place, its truly a life/death situation.

 

[HST4ME]

Ive seen them with near 4000 hours on. They run forever if properly cared for.

 

[2Driver]

Know zero here but if you are running a single wouldn't you want a kicker for back up..maybe even a pull start one?

 

[Mikes56]

We had two Honda 250’s on the Safeboats at work. They got ran most of the day at full throttle, and they towed a lot of disabled boats. They only got their oil changed every 100 hours by the mechanic.

At 2700ish hours the engines were replaced, but I’m not sure if they needed it. Never had a problem with any of the ten Honda outboards we had on the boats.

 

[poncho]

Ive seen them with near 4000 hours on. They run forever if properly cared for.

Aren't the exhaust towers or something like that their only real Achillies heal?

 

[cofooter]

Know zero here but if you are running a single wouldn't you want a kicker for back up..maybe even a pull start one?

My ProV 200 came with a cord to pull start it, never had to use it!! I'm sure it takes one hell of a yank!!!

 

[lbhsbz]

My ProV 200 came with a cord to pull start it, never had to use it!! I'm sure it takes one hell of a yank!!!

My old 200 merc is about as easy to pull start as my lawnmower...