High School Football

[TCHB]

Go Mater Dei.

 

[Englewood]

Texas boys have their panties in a wad over CA being #1.

 

[Bobby V]

Go Mater Dei.
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I think they play #16 Centennial tonight.

 

[TCHB]

Texas boys have their panties in a wad over CA being #1.

But it’s Mater Dei!

 

[Xring01]

We all know how rankings go…

I would love to see a Tex vs Ca HS Football game…

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Texas boys have their panties in a wad over CA being #1.

Football is wayyyyyy bigger out here than CA, but if these guys want to be the best, they’ve got to play the best. That’s MD and SJB.

The last time Duncanville played MD they were embarrassed.

 

[JL95]

Does Orange Lutheran and Servite ever get into the list? I had a buddy back in ~2009-2011 that played for all 3 in HS.

 

[bowtiejunkie]

SJB travelled to Allen, TX last year and beat Allen 54-12. So, two years in a row a CA smashed a TX team. There was a nod towards the overall experience of a TX high school football game. I agree, it’s definitely another level.

 

[hallett21]

CA and Texas schools recruit like no other. I think it would be a fair game.

 

[HBCraig]

CA and Texas schools recruit like no other. I think it would be a fair game.

Correction, Trinity league teams recruit like no other.

 

[hallett21]

Correction, Trinity league teams recruit like no other.

I graduated in 09 and my school pulled kids from all over. Including “housing” kids from Katrina. Because you know…. Christian values .

Then I read about one Texas school flying down and bringing Samoans back with them lol.

 

[Bobby V]

Correction, Trinity league teams recruit like no other.

Huntington Beach is starting a 6’-5“ freshman at QB on the Varsity. Is he a local.

 

[HBCraig]

Huntington Beach is starting a 6’-5“ freshman at QB on the Varsity. Is he a local.

Of course he is.

 

[stephenkatsea]

What’s allowed now when it comes to recruiting for HS football? Mater Dei and St John Bosco also offers tuition paid scholarships. But, they’re certainly not the only ones. Amazing, Camarillo FB was able to win their CIF Division when we lived there. Hell of a lot of fun to watch and support. These were truly kids from Camarillo.

 

[Wedgy]

SJB travelled to Allen, TX last year and beat Allen 54-12. So, two years in a row a CA smashed a TX team. There was a nod towards the overall experience of a TX high school football game. I agree, it’s definitely another level.

Glad my Kid played on grass. Sr, 2009, OG. Our HS stadium here in Texas looks like a college stadium. Town of 15,000.

 

[hallett21]

What’s allowed now when it comes to recruiting for HS football? Mater Dei and St John Bosco also offers tuition paid scholarships. But, they’re certainly not the only ones. Amazing, Camarillo FB was able to win their CIF Division when we lived there. Hell of a lot of fun to watch and support. These were truly kids from Camarillo.

I went to Oaks Christian. It was wild lol.

 

[stephenkatsea]

I went to Oaks Christian. It was wild lol.

Oaks Christian has excellent sports programs, no doubt. But, I believe they also openly recruit and provide scholarships. How can schools who don’t, ever hope to compete and play at their level?

 

[C-Ya]

It appears that Florida has the most teams in the top 25.

 

[hallett21]

Oaks Christian has excellent sports programs, no doubt. But, I believe they also openly recruit and provide scholarships. How can schools who don’t, ever hope to compete and play at their level?

Agreed.

 

[C-Ya]

Oaks Christian has excellent sports programs, no doubt. But, I believe they also openly recruit and provide scholarships. How can schools who don’t, ever hope to compete and play at their level?

In Phoenix, my daughter went to a high school in which parents of other high schools thought they recruited its players with scholarships, It was not true. We constantly had to dispel that notion.

Xavier College Preparatory (all girls high school)

 

[stephenkatsea]

There’s really nothing like ‘pure’ Friday Night HS Football. I’m talking about boys you’ve watched grow up in your neighborhood. Girls - Camarillo’s biggest softball rival was none other than Mater Dei. Again, how great to watch the girls, who we’d seen advance and mature from park/rec ball up to HS and beyond. Many received NCAA Div 1 full ride scholarships.

 

[4Waters]

Oaks Christian has excellent sports programs, no doubt. But, I believe they also openly recruit and provide scholarships. How can schools who don’t, ever hope to compete and play at their level?

And that's how the fight started


That's actually a big complaint with the public schools, most believe that CIF should be split into 2.

Division 1-9 public
Division 1-9 private

But then the private schools complain that they have to drive far for most of their games, well then go ask the parents fir more money

 

[TCHB]

CA and Texas schools recruit like no other. I think it would be a fair game.

If you have a special kid you will go to the best schools.

 

[TCHB]

There’s really nothing like ‘pure’ Friday Night HS Football. I’m talking about boys you’ve watched grow up in your neighborhood. Girls - Camarillo’s biggest softball rival was none other than Mater Dei. Again, how great to watch the girls, who we’d seen advance and mature from park/rec ball up to HS and beyond. Many received NCAA Div 1 full ride scholarships.

Rolly of Mater Dei would say. The hardest thing is keeping these kids focused away from their girl friends, parents, science test they just failed and other high school distractions.

 

[Wedgy]

And that's how the fight started


That's actually a big complaint with the public schools, most believe that CIF should be split into 2.

Division 1-9 public
Division 1-9 private

But then the private schools complain that they have to drive far for most of their games, well then go ask the parents fir more money

They should try traveling in West Texas. Nothing is close

 

[J DUNN]

My son is in his 2nd year of Pop Warner on RSM Cowboys 13U team. He plays O-line and Defensive End. He is going into 8th grade, he's 13, weighs 200 lbs., 6'0", benches 150. One of his coaches told me to get him a Twitter now to start the recruiting process! He's 13! He will play for Tesoro even though a few coaches have tried to get him to look at other schools. He has fun playing so he works hard at it, we'll see what it turns into. He has our 100% support, but 0% pressure. Only thing we pressure him to do regarding sports is keep his commitments.

 

[4Waters]

Go Royal!!!

 

[Englewood]

My son is in his 2nd year of Pop Warner on RSM Cowboys 13U team. He plays O-line and Defensive End. He is going into 8th grade, he's 13, weighs 200 lbs., 6'0", benches 150. One of his coaches told me to get him a Twitter now to start the recruiting process! He's 13! He will play for Tesoro even though a few coaches have tried to get him to look at other schools. He has fun playing so he works hard at it, we'll see what it turns into. He has our 100% support, but 0% pressure. Only thing we pressure him to do regarding sports is keep his commitments.

My son just turned 13...His hitting coach just told him that it's time to start working social media and networking. People are already asking about High School...If your son/daughter is a good athlete, they will be recruited. Even public schools are doing it now, just not as loud.

I personally miss the days when you went to a neighborhood school, played with your buddies, and enjoyed life. The pressure these kids have these days is too much in my opinion...

 

[Cray Paper]

Texas and CA football gets the notoriety but HS football is huge in a lot of states. De La Sal got their asses handed to them in 2004 by Bellevue HS in WA State, Bellevue ended a 150+ game winning streak of De La Sal.

My youngest son is a senior this year in a Snohomish County HS in WA state and has multiple scholarship offers from UW, CAL, USC and several east coast smaller conference schools. CA and TX are not the holy grail of HS FB in the US. Atmosphere might be better, but the talent is a crap shoot. My kids teams played a top ranked CA and WA last year on their home fields and the home town officiating was terrible.

 

[4Waters]

Well that was ugly but expected as Birmingham is D2 or 3 and Royal is D6.

Birmingham- 60
Royal- 0

 

[DWC]

Texas and CA football gets the notoriety but HS football is huge in a lot of states. De La Sal got their asses handed to them in 2004 by Bellevue HS in WA State, Bellevue ended a 150+ game winning streak of De La Sal.

My youngest son is a senior this year in a Snohomish County HS in WA state and has multiple scholarship offers from UW, CAL, USC and several east coast smaller conference schools. CA and TX are not the holy grail of HS FB in the US. Atmosphere might be better, but the talent is a crap shoot. My kids teams played a top ranked CA and WA last year on their home fields and the home town officiating was terrible.

Pulled up a few feeds on talent. Looks like Texas, Florida, Georgia and California are the top states for D1. Ca, Florida and Texas are the top states for NFL.
There’s a top talent website for Washington that’s pretty slick.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Correction, Trinity league teams recruit like no other.

Yes very true that’s why Loyola high school is no longer in that league

 

[Dirtbag]

Texas boys have their panties in a wad over CA being #1.

texas boys get whooped on by bosco and mater dei

 

[Rajobigguy]

Regardless of the rankings, they will never get as big of a draw as the annual Downey vs Warren game.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Texas and CA football gets the notoriety but HS football is huge in a lot of states. De La Sal got their asses handed to them in 2004 by Bellevue HS in WA State, Bellevue ended a 150+ game winning streak of De La Sal.

My youngest son is a senior this year in a Snohomish County HS in WA state and has multiple scholarship offers from UW, CAL, USC and several east coast smaller conference schools. CA and TX are not the holy grail of HS FB in the US. Atmosphere might be better, but the talent is a crap shoot. My kids teams played a top ranked CA and WA last year on their home fields and the home town officiating was terrible.

In general, CA, TX, and FL are the holy grail of talent. I went back 10 years and found 2 Washinton teams in the top 25...neither in the top 10. 250 teams, and WA was represented by 2.

https://www.maxpreps.com/football/rankings/1/

Side note: If you have to go back 20 years for a big win, that shows you're in a different league of play. That DSL team also lost 3 times that year and tied twice... Obviously, not a top year for them.

 

[TCHB]

My son just turned 13...His hitting coach just told him that it's time to start working social media and networking. People are already asking about High School...If your son/daughter is a good athlete, they will be recruited. Even public schools are doing it now, just not as loud.

I personally miss the days when you went to a neighborhood school, played with your buddies, and enjoyed life. The pressure these kids have these days is too much in my opinion...

This is all sports. We were at a PGA Jr. event and was surprised by how many of the 14 year olds were not going to school. They had private teachers And played golf full time.

 

[PRIMO]

Regardless of the rankings, they will never get as big of a draw as the annual Downey vs Warren game.

Lakewood / Millikan / 1974 VETS Stadium
17,500 Attendance Largest in LB History !
Lakewood 14
Millikan 12

 

[Bobby V]

I think they play #16 Centennial tonight.

Mater Dei…28. Centennial…14

 

[TX Foilhead]

The biggest difference is in Texas the best schools are public vs the private schools in other states. We do have divisions so the private schools can have their own state championships every year, but the biggest private schools would have no chance after first round of the public school play off.

The second major difference is our coaches are paid employees of the school districts, that goes from the biggest schools all the way down to the little ones who play 6-man football with 10 kids on the team. Obviously private schools have coaches who are paid, but I don’t believe most states have public schools with full time coaches at every school.

There is some recruting, but it’s frowned on and there are rules against it. That keeps it sort of local, you can move around DFW or the Houston area, but you better have a good reason to move from one to the other if you’re playing at a high level.


For attendance, last year 204,730 people attended the the State Championship games @AT&T stadium in Arlington, the largest crowd was over 40000 for a single game and the record for a single game is 54347. Every game is on TV starting Wednesday morning there are 3 games a day with the last game being Saturday night.

 

[Cray Paper]

In general, CA, TX, and FL are the holy grail of talent. I went back 10 years and found 2 Washinton teams in the top 25...neither in the top 10. 250 teams, and WA was represented by 2.

https://www.maxpreps.com/football/rankings/1/

Side note: If you have to go back 20 years for a big win, that shows you're in a different league of play. That DSL team also lost 3 times that year and tied twice... Obviously, not a top year for them.

I didn't articulate my thoughts correctly apparently. My point is this, states with much larger populations do not equate to being more productive in generating college or NFL players, population is the major factor. I know what I know from being on this planet for 53 years, played HS football at San Juan HS in Sacramento my freshman year then attended a much smaller HS after, Mesa Verde in Sacramento. We won the CA state championship for our division in 1987 when I was a JR and we would have crushed the 4A state champions but were not afforded the opportunity.

I have attended 10 years of games of tackle football with my sons in WA State, my sons are physically gifted and have the toughness and grit needed to stand out in playing the HS game. My oldest son (20 YO now) got screwed by WA states liberal policies about covid19. My youngest son (17 YO) is blessed with above normal intelligence ( 3.7 GPA even though he has been in advanced curriculum since kindergarten and refuses to do homework) and hard working attitude that has developed interest from major colleges.

Again, my point is the end results. TX and CA are not the end all be all of the HS football, experience, yes they have a much larger pool to draw from year in and year out but to claim it's a societal and are parental impact is outlandish in my opinion.

 

[Cray Paper]

In general, CA, TX, and FL are the holy grail of talent. I went back 10 years and found 2 Washinton teams in the top 25...neither in the top 10. 250 teams, and WA was represented by 2.

https://www.maxpreps.com/football/rankings/1/

Side note: If you have to go back 20 years for a big win, that shows you're in a different league of play. That DSL team also lost 3 times that year and tied twice... Obviously, not a top year for them.

I am 53 YO and not an any league, what league are you personally in right now?

My playing days have been in the rear view mirror for 3+ decades, but I played HS football at a high level accordingly to your analogy in a state you deem comparable to your home state. Have you played the game yourself and or have sons that are playing now? What is your point of reference, or point your trying to prove? Please provide more dialogue to inform me how much more talented TX or CA HS football players are and why.

Seems to me that you are saying parenting is the reason?

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

I am 53 YO and not an any league, what league are you personally in right now?

My playing days have been in the rear view mirror for 3+ decades, but I played HS football at a high level accordingly to your analogy in a state you deem comparable to your home state. Have you played the game yourself and or have sons that are playing now? What is your point of reference, or point your trying to prove? Please provide more dialogue to inform me how much more talented TX or CA HS football players are and why.

Seems to me that you are saying parenting is the reason?

Yes I played, and no I don’t have kids. I get it. You’re a proud papa. I gave you the facts. If you want to ignore them, go for it. It’s easy to see the top players and programs are not in WA, not even when you look at per capita stats. Texas and FL are in the top 10. Can’t drill down further for you, sorry.

Good luck to your boy.

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[Cray Paper]

Point is that HS football is big in the local "culture" in most towns. Wasn't that way when I was playing in 1986 at San Juan HS in Sacramento my freshman year or the following years at Mesa Verde, even though we won the CA championship my JR year. It is different know. My my son is college material and NW teams have taken out the teams most of the US respect from west of the Mississippi . I have seen the lopsided officiating locally for out of conference teams and especially from out of state teams in CA and Oregon, it's really disgusting.

Thank you for the well wishes for my son. I hope that he stays healthy and goes to the next level.

 

[Cray Paper]

Yes I played, and no I don’t have kids. I get it. You’re a proud papa. I gave you the facts. If you want to ignore them, go for it. It’s easy to see the top players and programs are not in WA, not even when you look at per capita stats. Texas and FL are in the top 10. Can’t drill down further for you, sorry.

Good luck to your boy.

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My youngest son played well Friday night, and STSPN carried the game online live. My wife and I were at the game. The stadium was built in the 1890's and was upgraded a couple of decades ago and now holds about 5K, Friday nights game had about 8K plus in attendance, lots of standing room only participants. Look up the population of Snohomish WA, same town that stood their ground when Black Lives Matter tried to create chaos in 2020, NOT a limp wristed liberal town. Again, HS football is huge in a lot more communities than the ones you have mentioned, and just using using google stats is just to prove a point is just lazy and honestly, just trolling in my opinion. That's why I asked if you played and have sons that are playing now. You answered my question and your response should indicate where your are coming from for anyone else seeing this thread.

Again, my son played well and is on the path to being a household name for collage football fans. I am a proud father and now what that my son has put in the work and is physically and mentality gifted. His name is Bradley. I hope that college football fans will know his name in a couple of years and NFL fans will a couple of years later.

 

[TCHB]

Mater Dei doing great so far1

Elijah Brown’s 7 TD passes propel Mater Dei football in rout of Georgia’s Creekside

Brown sets career highs by throwing for 372 yards and 7 TDs as the Monarchs give new coach Frank McManus his first win at Santa Ana Stadium.

www.ocregister.com

 

[wayniac]

Football is wayyyyyy bigger out here than CA, but if these guys want to be the best, they’ve got to play the best. That’s MD and SJB.

The last time Duncanville played MD they were embarras

Those 2 teams are on another level, even for the trinity league they are in. Mission Viejo was the most impressive to me. They are a public high school, and would lay the wood to most state champs.

 

[stephenkatsea]

As a very young boy I recall attending the Downey - Anaheim, CIF championship played in the LA Coliseum. Memorable game. Attendance around 60K. Fog rolled into the stadium and you couldn't even see the field for a while. 4th quarter ended with the scored tied 13-13. They fittingly declared the teams Co-CIF Champions. The following year Downey won the CIF Championship outright, down in San Diego. Our Dad also drove us down to that game. Good and very memorable times, for sure. CIF regulations were very different then. And I'm sure, there was no recruiting or scholarships involved.

 

[Hammer]

Mater Dei doing great so far1

Elijah Brown’s 7 TD passes propel Mater Dei football in rout of Georgia’s Creekside

Brown sets career highs by throwing for 372 yards and 7 TDs as the Monarchs give new coach Frank McManus his first win at Santa Ana Stadium.

www.ocregister.com

Is Matt Leinerts kid a back up QB? I'm assuming he will start next year?

 

[HBCraig]

Mater Dei doing great so far1

Elijah Brown’s 7 TD passes propel Mater Dei football in rout of Georgia’s Creekside

Brown sets career highs by throwing for 372 yards and 7 TDs as the Monarchs give new coach Frank McManus his first win at Santa Ana Stadium.

www.ocregister.com

Is Edison still good?

 

[Bobby V]

Is Edison still good?

Ranked 8th in the OC. 1-1.