Hey sparkies...

[rivermobster]

Even aluminum flex can be penetrated by drywall screws and nails. This is why it's important to drill and install romex center stud, and also why they make and mandate nail plates for those that aren't.
The system as designed works fine if the codes and standards of good workmanship are followed and why I'm often hesitant to provide advise on an internet forum where the abilities of those asking aren't known.
Quite often a little information can prove dangerous.
Your case is a perfect example, you had some information, but not enough to fill in the knowledge gaps of what you didn't, or don't know.

Better to ask. I'm perfectly fine with looking stupid.

 

[Taboma]

Better to ask. I'm perfectly fine with looking stupid.

The way I tend to approach offering electrical assistance on the web, is to initially sit back and read a few posts by the OP and how he intially inquires, then responds to various responder's answers.
I use the way they ask, as well as how they react to the responses, as a way of gauging their trade knowledge.
Depending on what I learn from that, I determine to what extent if any, I'm comfortable with being involved.
I've always encouraged those asking for Sparky info, to provide as much information and certainly pictures as possible, as that will allow any of us far more insight into how answers need to be tailored.
The level of information they provide and how they state their inquiry, provides a great amount of insight into the OP's trade knowledge.

Want I haven't quite figured out yet is why hallett21 was treating certain details with an obvious ambivalence, and others by intentionally withholding vital information ??
Is your wife or some RDPer mad at you ??

 

[ChumpChange]

Not only that but they're deeper as well.

@rivermobster doesn't have to worry about bottoming out.

 

[rivermobster]

@rivermobster doesn't have to worry about bottoming out.

Dick!

 

[ChumpChange]

Dick!

I knew you’d know what I’m talking about.

 

[rivermobster]

I knew you’d know what I’m talking about.

I had a Bunch of Good replies. You're lucky I like you.

 

[Backlash]

@rivermobster doesn't have to worry about bottoming out.

He drives a Ford. I thought "Bottoming out" was the norm.

 

[rivermobster]

He drives a Ford. I thought "Bottoming out" was the norm.

You might be on to something here...

 

[rivermobster]

Got the box and the plate.

But...

Are you guys ok this Ultratite kit? Twenty five bucks for everything.

HD doesn't sell 3/4 flex by the foot. A whole roll is fifty bucks, plus fittings!

Thoughts?

 

[hallett21]

Got the box and the plate.

But...

Are you guys ok this Ultratite kit? Twenty five bucks for everything.

HD doesn't sell 3/4 flex by the foot. A whole roll is fifty bucks, plus fittings!

Thoughts?

If you’re talking about the 6-12ft prewired whip they sell ya that’ll work. Should have fittings on both sides

 

[Taboma]

Got the box and the plate.

But...

Are you guys ok this Ultratite kit? Twenty five bucks for everything.

HD doesn't sell 3/4 flex by the foot. A whole roll is fifty bucks, plus fittings!

Thoughts?

Not clear on what this kit exactly consists of. Yes, the 3/4" Ultratite non-metallic conduit is fine to use. The "Kit" I saw was 3/4" conduit only, with one straight and one 90 degree connectors. Is this it ?
You can't pull your conductors around that elbow, so install the conductors in through the straight connector into the receptacle box, then put the elbow-gland on the flex, then feed the elbow part over the conductors, tighten the gland, then slip the elbow connector with the conductors in it, through the KO in the panel, lock nut and terminate.
Should work just fine.

 

[rivermobster]

If you’re talking about the 6-12ft prewired whip they sell ya that’ll work. Should have fittings on both sides

Shit. Forgot to add the pic...

 

[rivermobster]

Does it matter what circuit is XXX or YYY?

 

[Taboma]

Does it matter what circuit is XXX or YYY?



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No, not unless you plan on backfeeding it with a generator, then it might, but probably not then either.

 

[rivermobster]

This would have been a fuck ton easier, if it wasn't 40 some degrees today!

I almost got my heat gun out to warm the wires up, but after some cussing and fussing, I win.

Thank gawd for dry silicone spray!

 

[Taboma]

This would have been a fuck ton easier, if it wasn't 40 some degrees today!

I almost got my heat gun out to warm the wires up, but after some cussing and fussing, I win.

Thank gawd for dry silicone spray!

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Not sure what yer plugging in their sir, but most nema 14-50 (50 amp 125/250V) 90 degree plugs are configured with the ground on the top.
Not wrong, it just depends on your future use.

PS: You did leave sufficient slack in the conductors to pull it out to change or reverse it --- right ? I ask because I'm not seeing the other three colors looped around the interior of that box --- so I'm really hoping you didn't suck those up tight following your install

 

[rivermobster]

Not sure what yer plugging in their sir, but most nema 14-50 (50 amp 125/250V) 90 degree plugs are configured with the ground on the top.
Not wrong, it just depends on your future use.

PS: You did leave sufficient slack in the conductors to pull it out to change or reverse it --- right ? I ask because I'm not seeing the other three colors looped around the interior of that box --- so I'm really hoping you didn't suck those up tight following your install

Didn't leave much slack at all. Definitely not too late to adjust.

I was going to double check the ground position also. I'm done for today. It's too cold outside for my pansy azz!

Thanks for all of your input.

 

[Taboma]

Didn't leave much slack at all. Definitely not too late to adjust.

I was going to double check the ground position also. I'm done for today. It's too cold outside for my pansy azz!

Thanks for all of your input.

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When terminating any kind of receptacle in a box, always leave sufficient slack to allow future removal, either for replacement, for re-orientation, or if a problem is suspected to examine and re-torque termination screws ---- especially critical for aluminum conductors.
With that elbow on the box end, and that 90 degree elbow buried in a wall --- A day could come when somebody would be losing their SHIT. Form the conductors around the box interior perimeter. I know it's frustrating, but leave the receptacle on the plaster ring, remove the ring, form wires, then replace, it will save lost skin on your knuckles. Wait until you get the joy of hand bending 350MCM copper in cold weather Of course now all the sparky pussies have cool cordless cable benders ---

 

[rivermobster]

When terminating any kind of receptacle in a box, always leave sufficient slack to allow future removal, either for replacement, for re-orientation, or if a problem is suspected to examine and re-torque termination screws ---- especially critical for aluminum conductors.
With that elbow on the box end, and that 90 degree elbow buried in a wall --- A day could come when somebody would be losing their SHIT. Form the conductors around the box interior perimeter. I know it's frustrating, but leave the receptacle on the plaster ring, remove the ring, form wires, then replace, it will save lost skin on your knuckles. Wait until you get the joy of hand bending 350MCM copper in cold weather Of course now all the sparky pussies have cool cordless cable benders ---

That's exactly how I installed it, I put receptacle on the plaster ring, and then set (wrestled) it into place.

Every level 2 charger I see has the ground prong up top. My daughter's Volt will max charge at 16amps, so I don't need to buy a fancy one.

The high here today was 46. Like I said, I Almost got out the heat gun!

Suppose to be almost 70 on Sunday. It's going to sit till then.

 

[Taboma]

That's exactly how I installed it, I put receptacle on the plaster ring, and then set (wrestled) it into place.

Every level 2 charger I see has the ground prong up top. My daughter's Volt will max charge at 16amps, so I don't need to buy a fancy one.

The high here today was 46. Like I said, I Almost got out the heat gun!

Suppose to be almost 70 on Sunday. It's going to sit till then.

Preform the conductor bends and lengths so when finally terminated they'll more easily "Accordion" into their preformed positions once terminated.
Not the best plan to terminate, then shove mightily, he-man style into the box. Good way to screw up a termination by breaking scored strands, or worse, snap an expensive receptacle.

 

[bilz]

Get the deepest box you can find. 5s if you can. Lots more room to work.

 

[rivermobster]

Get the deepest box you can find. 5s if you can. Lots more room to work.

I did.

 

[rivermobster]

So far, so good?

 

[SoCalDave]

What's the romex wires feeding?

 

[rivermobster]

What's the romex wires feeding?

The rest of the house.

 

[hallett21]

Looking good

 

[rivermobster]

Looking good

Phew.

 

[rivermobster]

Phew.

I'll wire it up tomorrow then. I picked up a cheap 220v charger for my daughter's Volt. Since it's an older car, it charges at 16amps max.

 

[WTR&PWR]

@Taboma @hallett21 isnt there a different mud ring that would cover the sides of the 14-50 so the wire in the box isn’t exposed? Or he can just throw a cover plate on it..

 

[rivermobster]

@Taboma @hallett21 isnt there a different mud ring that would cover the sides of the 14-50 so the wire in the box isn’t exposed? Or he can just throw a cover plate on it..

That wall is going to be drywalled pretty quick. Then I have a stainless wall plate for the finish.

 

[Taboma]

@Taboma @hallett21 isnt there a different mud ring that would cover the sides of the 14-50 so the wire in the box isn’t exposed? Or he can just throw a cover plate on it..

The plate you're thinking of would be used for a 4S or 4 11/16" in box in a surface mounted application --- commonly referred to as an "Industrial Cover" or Exposed Work.

I should add, that in that application you wouldn't use a plaster Ring -- just the box and this cover.

 

[HNL2LHC]

@Taboma @hallett21 isnt there a different mud ring that would cover the sides of the 14-50 so the wire in the box isn’t exposed? Or he can just throw a cover plate on it..

Not going to google “mud ring”. @Tank would you let me know what you find?

 

[Taboma]

Not going to google “mud ring”. @Tank would you let me know what you find?

Well then, how does "P Ring" work for ya ?