Hey Federal Workers....

[GRADS]

Get your ass back to work in the office! DJT signed the official order tonight. I wonder how many government workers are getting texts tonight that say "hey, we're back in office tomorrow"?

 

[Mr. C]

How the fuck Dave keeps letting you in baffles me. But at least I know it won’t be for long.
Happy best Monday in a long time.
Hope you have enough tissues.

 

[SixD9R]

Hey, look who’s back. On Trump’s Inauguration Day no less. You must have applied a liberal layer of:

 

[GRADS]

How the fuck Dave keeps letting you in baffles me. But at least I know it won’t be for long.
Happy best Monday in a long time.
Hope you have enough tissues.

DJT and RD granted a pardon. They also offered me a cabinet position.

 

[Gelcoater]

Get your ass back to work in the office! DJT signed the official order tonight. I wonder how many government workers are getting texts tonight that say "hey, we're back in office tomorrow"?

Who said your name 3 times?

Both you and they need to Fuck off!

 

[GRADS]

I agreed with 80% of the executive orders signed today, the delivery wasn't great though.

 

[GRADS]

Who said your name 3 times?

Both you and they need to Fuck off!

100% agreed with this one.

 

[RiverDave]

Who said your name 3 times?

Both you and they need to Fuck off!

Liberal thread people were asking for him to be let outta the cage lol.

What they don’t know is Grads has changed positions from far left to centrist possibly even leaning a hair right

 

[angiebaby]

Honest question. Do you all think it's beneficial to the West to have USFS and BLM employees (not talking about field employees, but those in charge of policies and practices), all citified folks from the DC/Virginia metro area? Do you think those folks have a good understanding of our issues out here in the West? Bureau of Reclamation? What about USDA employees? Never lived on or near a farm in their entire life. Never been West of Ohio. Yet they make policy for farmers. Do you think that's a good idea? Do you seriously think someone born and raised in Idaho/Wyoming/Nebraska has any intention of working in those bureaus if they have to move to the city of D.C.? A lot of our nation is rural. How to people in D.C. know anything about rural issues? It's such a small pool of employees and you don't get any cultural variety of ideas if you limit it to those who live on the East Coast. Just my 3 cents (inflation )

 

[Mr. C]

Liberal thread people were asking for him to be let outta the cage lol.

What they don’t know is Grads has changed positions from far left to centrist possibly even leaning a hair right

Yet to really be seen. But you obviously talk to him. So we will see.

 

[Kachina26]

Get your ass back to work in the office! DJT signed the official order tonight. I wonder how many government workers are getting texts tonight that say "hey, we're back in office tomorrow"?

Found a puzzle that's right up your alley so to speak. (pun intended)
Puzzle idea gone wrong

 

[SKIDMARC]

Welcome back!

 

[GRADS]

Where is Regor's crying frog or whatever the fuck that is right now? RDP is so upset that I'm not upset.

 

[Sportin' Wood]

Honest question. Do you all think it's beneficial to the West to have USFS and BLM employees (not talking about field employees, but those in charge of policies and practices), all citified folks from the DC/Virginia metro area? Do you think those folks have a good understanding of our issues out here in the West? Bureau of Reclamation? What about USDA employees? Never lived on or near a farm in their entire life. Never been West of Ohio. Yet they make policy for farmers. Do you think that's a good idea? Do you seriously think someone born and raised in Idaho/Wyoming/Nebraska has any intention of working in those bureaus if they have to move to the city of D.C.? A lot of our nation is rural. How to people in D.C. know anything about rural issues? It's such a small pool of employees and you don't get any cultural variety of ideas if you limit it to those who live on the East Coast. Just my 3 cents (inflation )

I'll bite, since you already know my answer.

Attrition will play a significant role in the reduction in workforce (RIF) Nothing better than voluntary separation. Some percentage of emotional federal employees will quit this week. They don't need to do anything else and that is gonna help with DOGE before they even open an office.

On the rebound they should move appropriate federal agencies out of DC as a cost savings measure. As an example they can move the Department of Interior to one of the suburbs of Salt Lake City. Maybe Lehi. Keep cubes available in DC for those that need to go to DC to testify.

 

[propcheck]

Honest question. Do you all think it's beneficial to the West to have USFS and BLM employees (not talking about field employees, but those in charge of policies and practices), all citified folks from the DC/Virginia metro area? Do you think those folks have a good understanding of our issues out here in the West? Bureau of Reclamation? What about USDA employees? Never lived on or near a farm in their entire life. Never been West of Ohio. Yet they make policy for farmers. Do you think that's a good idea? Do you seriously think someone born and raised in Idaho/Wyoming/Nebraska has any intention of working in those bureaus if they have to move to the city of D.C.? A lot of our nation is rural. How to people in D.C. know anything about rural issues? It's such a small pool of employees and you don't get any cultural variety of ideas if you limit it to those who live on the East Coast. Just my 3 cents (inflation )

I fully understand and support your position it is correct. But the order was not for field personnel it is for the work from home folks that are not answering calls and have shirked their responsibilities by hiding in their basement doing an hours worth of excel, word and outlook and billing the tax payers for an 8 hour day.
Now to answer your question no I do not believe anybody from the BLM,USDA, or any alphabet soup agency is worth what they are paid return it to local control

 

[regor]

Where is Regor's crying frog or whatever the fuck that is right now? RDP is so upset that I'm not upset.

 

[Bobby V]

Honest question. Do you all think it's beneficial to the West to have USFS and BLM employees (not talking about field employees, but those in charge of policies and practices), all citified folks from the DC/Virginia metro area? Do you think those folks have a good understanding of our issues out here in the West? Bureau of Reclamation? What about USDA employees? Never lived on or near a farm in their entire life. Never been West of Ohio. Yet they make policy for farmers. Do you think that's a good idea? Do you seriously think someone born and raised in Idaho/Wyoming/Nebraska has any intention of working in those bureaus if they have to move to the city of D.C.? A lot of our nation is rural. How to people in D.C. know anything about rural issues? It's such a small pool of employees and you don't get any cultural variety of ideas if you limit it to those who live on the East Coast. Just my 3 cents (inflation )

I googled USDA for office locations. Looks like they is a lot of offices. Is this what you are referring to?

Staff Offices | Home

www.usda.gov

 

[coolchange]

Honest question. Do you all think it's beneficial to the West to have USFS and BLM employees (not talking about field employees, but those in charge of policies and practices), all citified folks from the DC/Virginia metro area? Do you think those folks have a good understanding of our issues out here in the West? Bureau of Reclamation? What about USDA employees? Never lived on or near a farm in their entire life. Never been West of Ohio. Yet they make policy for farmers. Do you think that's a good idea? Do you seriously think someone born and raised in Idaho/Wyoming/Nebraska has any intention of working in those bureaus if they have to move to the city of D.C.? A lot of our nation is rural. How to people in D.C. know anything about rural issues? It's such a small pool of employees and you don't get any cultural variety of ideas if you limit it to those who live on the East Coast. Just my 3 cents (inflation )

Just eliminate the BLM that’ll solve half the problem.

 

[rivermobster]

I googled USDA for office locations. Is this what you are referring to?

Staff Offices | Home

www.usda.gov

Hopefully they get rid of at least half of those 100k positions.

 

[Gelcoater]

Liberal thread people were asking for him to be let outta the cage lol.

What they don’t know is Grads has changed positions from far left to centrist possibly even leaning a hair right

Is this like the time you told us he was turning a new page?

You put me in a difficult position, Dave.
I might earn a vacation and you may have earned a spot on the fuck off list

 

[Sharp Shooter]

What they don’t know is Grads has changed positions from far left to centrist possibly even leaning a hair right

He's only half fag now?

 

[Sportin' Wood]

I googled USDA for office locations. Is this what you are referring to?

Staff Offices | Home

www.usda.gov

USFS is that building

BLM is in this building.

Plan a Visit | U.S. Department of the Interior

Visit the Interior Museum for exhibitions, public programs, and building tours.

www.doi.gov

I've been in this building for meetings with Sally Jewell the Secretary of Interior years ago when I was cool.

The building is amazingly inefficient by modern standards. The halls are very narrow and the office spaces are small. Commuting into DC is a mess, thankfully I had a driver that knew the routine.

I hate the BLM, but there are complexities in abolishing them that might be hard to unwind. The BLM is the only land manager of the USFS, NPS that can actually sell federal Real Estate. So it might be troublesome to delegate that to the states.

IMHO the best path would be consolidation of the BLM, USFS and NPS under the same managing authority. Either a downsized Department of Interior or Department of Agriculture, but not both. Move the headquarters out west. Preferably a Red State, so California, Colorado and New Mexico are out. I think Utah makes the most sense.

I hope DOGE goes this deep and DJT drains the swamp this time.

 

[Cray Paper]

Liberal thread people were asking for him to be let outta the cage lol.

What they don’t know is Grads has changed positions from far left to centrist possibly even leaning a hair right

So he is a hard core MAGA republican now? Mainstream Democrats in the mid 90's are now hardcore right conservatives in my experience per their actions and mainstream media.

 

[FishSniper]

How the fuck Dave keeps letting you in baffles me. But at least I know it won’t be for long.
Happy best Monday in a long time.
Hope you have enough tissues.

Exactly Dave has lost a lot of respect from people I’ve talked to over this loser.

 

[GRADS]

So he is a hard core MAGA republican now? Mainstream Democrats in the mid 90's are now hardcore right conservatives in my experience per their actions and mainstream media.

not even close.

 

[FishSniper]

Is this like the time you told us he was turning a new page?

You put me in a difficult position, Dave.
I might earn a vacation and you may have earned a spot on the fuck off list

U can tell this site is hurting with how many times Grads is being let back on.

 

[FishSniper]

not even close.

 

[GRADS]

Exactly Dave has lost a lot of respect from people I’ve talked to over this loser.

GDS?

 

[Cray Paper]

not even close.

Comon man, you know this is true. The party left us in the 00's, we didn't leave them. I know where you live Grads, you have told us what your wife does for a living. You used to work for a living with your hands, how the fuck can you not see the destruction the Biden destruction has done to the US and dig in on supporting the democratic party? The democrat party is all about the destruction of the middle class. Tell us why you think Joa Bidens pardons make sense? I am all ears.

I have been a blue collar worker and union carpenter since 1991, voted blue for a long time, same as my co workers. That changed about 10 years ago Greg, and todays inauguration just proves what I have seen in the most liberal die hard blue state in the US, we the workers are fed up with the deep state propaganda, lies, and bullshit.

You do not speak for us Grads / Greg.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Is this like the time you told us he was turning a new page?

You put me in a difficult position, Dave.
I might earn a vacation and you may have earned a spot on the fuck off list

Telling the the owner of the website fuckoff that’s not cool

 

[FishSniper]

Telling the the owner of the website fuckoff that’s not cool

Why ?

 

[Dog]

There is an easy solution.

If you still see it, it is self inflicted and you get no sympathy.

 

[rivermobster]

 

[GRADS]

Why ?

Hey RD can you ban this dude?

 

[monkeyswrench]

@angiebaby and @Sportin' Wood , I've dealt with Forestry Service, but not any higher than rangers and such. Commercial firewood cuts and brush clearing bid walks and such. They seemed very official, and were very polite, but the younger ones didn't have much clue in regards to the requirements, and neither did the older ones, because they kept changing. The younger ones I met weren't even from Arizona, and the ecological diversity here is different than where they may have been from. The grasses, trees and wildlife differ from state to state. It seems unimportant to those in charge for people to have a good, working knowledge of the area they are in charge of.

 

[GRADS]

Hey RD can you ban this dude?

View attachment 1471259

That was a joke by the way

 

[Sportin' Wood]

@angiebaby and @Sportin' Wood , I've dealt with Forestry Service, but not any higher than rangers and such. Commercial firewood cuts and brush clearing bid walks and such. They seemed very official, and were very polite, but the younger ones didn't have much clue in regards to the requirements, and neither did the older ones, because they kept changing. The younger ones I met weren't even from Arizona, and the ecological diversity here is different than where they may have been from. The grasses, trees and wildlife differ from state to state. It seems unimportant to those in charge for people to have a good, working knowledge of the area they are in charge of.

That's how we feel. Local management of our natural resources.

IMHO top heavy decision making is detrimental in any organization. Book smart leaders should put more value in boots on the ground experience. Most of the population lives east of the Mississippi and many have no idea about how things go out here in the West. Their idea of public lands is Central Park.

One of my favorite memories from KOH was sharing the wonder of the wide open west with a guy names Doug from Maryland. He was completely blown away by the space. He is also the guy who drove me to DC and became a close friend who opened a door to introduce me to Sen Manchin. Most of these decision makers just don't grasp the Western States.

Move the Department of the Interior to the west and you get western employee's. Common Sense.

 

[napanutt]

That was a joke by the way

No it wasn’t.

 

[MPHSystems]

 

[angiebaby]

Just eliminate the BLM that’ll solve half the problem.

So, no more grazing or mining leases then? Someone has to manage those if you think we should continue them. What about road maintenance? What pool will that cost come from if not from BLM and how we will hire contractors to do the work?

I know we like to think we don't need the BLM and there is certainly a lot of overreach and people not working and taking advantage of th system, but it is a lot of land that needs to be managed. Someone has to do it. Absorbed into another agency, or a reduction of the agency, but the job still needs to be done by someone in some capacity.

 

[Roosky01]

So, no more grazing or mining leases then? Someone has to manage those if you think we should continue them. What about road maintenance? What pool will that cost come from if not from BLM and how we will hire contractors to do the work?

I know we like to think we don't need the BLM and there is certainly a lot of overreach and people not working and taking advantage of th system, but it is a lot of land that needs to be managed. Someone has to do it. Absorbed into another agency, or a reduction of the agency, but the job still needs to be done by someone in some capacity.

The land should be absorbed by the State and be managed by the State. Problem solved?

 

[angiebaby]

The land should be absorbed by the State and be managed by the State. Problem solved?

Ok. I support that idea.

 

[RiverDave]

U can tell this site is hurting with how many times Grads is being let back on.

Yeah we are dying on the vine..

 

[Sportin' Wood]

The land should be absorbed by the State and be managed by the State. Problem solved?

Problem solved? Not sure. Perhaps, but states would then have the rights to manage those lands as the state leadership sees fit. So if a red state wanted to sell it all they could, a blue state could lock it all up.

So state leadership matters.

Those that enjoy recreation on BLM land in neighboring states might find that no longer an opportunity if states absorbed management of public lands.

 

[Looking Glass]

Problem solved? Not sure. Perhaps, but states would then have the rights to manage those lands as the state leadership sees fit. So if a red state wanted to sell it all they could, a blue state could lock it all up.

So state leadership matters.

Those that enjoy recreation on BLM land in neighboring states might find that no longer an opportunity if states absorbed management of public lands.

Everyone wants Change, But when it comes to affecting their life in a negative way then, "Not So Much" There are Countless radical decisions that need to be made and they sure affect and hurt some, BUT!!

Talk is cheap, action is needed in the Mismanagement of the Majority of Federal Agencies. Keep the Courts out of the decisions.

 

[coolchange]

So, no more grazing or mining leases then? Someone has to manage those if you think we should continue them. What about road maintenance? What pool will that cost come from if not from BLM and how we will hire contractors to do the work?

I know we like to think we don't need the BLM and there is certainly a lot of overreach and people not working and taking advantage of th system, but it is a lot of land that needs to be managed. Someone has to do it. Absorbed into another agency, or a reduction of the agency, but the job still needs to be done by someone in some capacity.

Who did it before? Not flippant, curious

 

[LazyLavey]

DJT and RD granted a pardon. They also offered me a cabinet position.

So you felt compelled to come back to work?

 

[angiebaby]

Who did it before? Not flippant, curious

BLM employees either in office or remote. These would be lease managment specialist or property management specialist positions.

 

[oldschool]

Welcome back.

 

[regor]

Federal Worker Union Sues Trump Over Ending Job Protections

The National Treasury Employees Union launched a legal attack against President Donald Trump‘s “Schedule F” executive order, a directive that makes it easier for his administration to fire career employees who work across administrations.

news.bloomberglaw.com

The National Treasury Employees Union launched a legal attack against President Donald Trump‘s “Schedule F” executive order, a directive that makes it easier for his administration to fire career employees who work across administrations.


Mooches big mad......................