Hertz dumping electric cars

[dread Pirate]

Travel up 101 from Santa Rosa and your charging stops are Laytonville and Eureka. Laytonville has maybe 6 chargers and I often see lines, but at least there's a decent steakhouse to eat at. Eureka has about the same amount of chargers and is at the mall which is dead, so you'll be dealing with tweakers and junkies while you wait. I don't believe there is anything between Eureka and Crescent City.

 

[530RL]

We have two people in the office that use electric vehicles. I put in two 80 amp level II chargers. They allegedly pump out 19.2 kW or about 75 miles of range per hour.

Both individuals charge at the office and never have to charge at home during the week.

I'm not interested in an electric car, but if you put in some chargers at work, it turns out to be pretty slick.

 

[Romans9]

Every vehicle I own is diesel.
I have 2000 gallons of diesel fuel at my house at all times.
I have a 500 gallon fuel trailer for my generator.
I have a large transfer tank that can sit in the back of my truck and fuel the main tank 6 times giving me an effective range of over 3500 miles without pulling a trailer, and around 2200 miles pulling a max load trailer.

I like those options and the peace of mind that if another stupid fuck moronic Covid type scamdemic happens and suddenly our overlords decide to force everyone to shelter in place by stopping the flow of fuel (which can happen in about 24 hours) I will have the ability to get all of my family to my house where we can stay indefinitely until the hordes kill each other off…………

No EV’s for me………..

 

[coolchange]

Well, this should boost sales. I would be buying Tesla stock now. Like right now. It's at $218.

https://x.com/Teslarati/status/1745861240138637671?s=20

I like falling knives. I’m in in February at 180

 

[Flying_Lavey]

If 31% of the American population lives in multi-family housing, I assume that 69% of the American population lives in single-family housing.

That means most people, until charging is solved for multi-family housing.

I just used the 1 reason of the many for an example. How about the economics for the individual families? We drive the wife's car very little now. Just around town runs. An electric would work for that. However, we have 4 kids. VERY few options in the 6+ seating range. Even fewer with an actual, comfortable 3rd row. Now figure in the actual economics of it....... unless you have solar, in California or other states with expensive power, the payback isn't there. Even less so when you factor in the possibility of buying a used ICE vehicle.

Sorry, but an electric vehicle does NOT work for "most" of the population. It works for a select portion of the population.

 

[lbhsbz]

We have two people in the office that use electric vehicles. I put in two 80 amp level II chargers. They allegedly pump out 19.2 kW or about 75 miles of range per hour.

Both individuals charge at the office and never have to charge at home during the week.

I'm not interested in an electric car, but if you put in some chargers at work, it turns out to be pretty slick.

Assuming you’re the business owner…do you charge them for the power usage or eat it?

 

[lbhsbz]

Every vehicle I own is diesel.
I have 2000 gallons of diesel fuel at my house at all times.
I have a 500 gallon fuel trailer for my generator.
I have a large transfer tank that can sit in the back of my truck and fuel the main tank 6 times giving me an effective range of over 3500 miles without pulling a trailer, and around 2200 miles pulling a max load trailer.

I like those options and the peace of mind that if another stupid fuck moronic Covid type scamdemic happens and suddenly our overlords decide to force everyone to shelter in place by stopping the flow of fuel (which can happen in about 24 hours) I will have the ability to get all of my family to my house where we can stay indefinitely until the hordes kill each other off…………

No EV’s for me………..

I don’t bother stockpiling fuel: I’m in California…I’ll just steal some if I need any and the pumps are out:

 

[530RL]

Assuming you’re the business owner…do you charge them for the power usage or eat it?

It’s trivial in cost so I just pay it. The total electric bill even in the summer cooling 10,500 feet is at worst 1200 bucks.

It can’t be more than a few hundred bucks a month to charge their cars for the miles they burn.

 

[Romans9]

I don’t bother stockpiling fuel: I’m in California…I’ll just steal some if I need any and the pumps are out:

Yeah I don’t “stockpile” I just use it as a buffer. I fuel out of it daily for my service truck I just be sure to keep it topped off.

California? Just claim you’re undocumented and I’m sure there is some state subsidy you would get for fuel……..

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

The same punk asses that return their rental cars dead are probably the same lil bitches that didn't rewind their tapes back when Blockbuster was around. You Millenial homos may not get this reference.

 

[RitcheyRch]

The same punk asses that return their rental cars dead are probably the same lil bitches that didn't rewind their tapes back when Blockbuster was around. You Millenial homos may not get this reference.

Or return the shopping carts.

 

[Ouderkirk]

Too expensive

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/hertz-sell-about-20000-evs-us-fleet-2024-01-11/

Nobody wanted to rent them. And many customers were VERY PISSED OFF when they are assigned one at the rental counter. I was in a hotel in Tewksbury Mass last week and a woman comes in asking if the hotel had a charging station. They didn't, and she left grumbling about the stupid car not being able to make it to a charging station as it was almost dead with 20+ miles to get to the nearest charging station (at night in 30 degree weather). That convinced me right there to NEVER take an EV as a rental. Wonder if the Rental Company bills you for the charge. A charging station charges $0.45 - $0.55 per kW*hr, so the Hertz is likely to charge 2X like they do for gasoline.

 

[RitcheyRch]

Looks like rental company Sixt dumping them as well

Sixt divorces Tesla and opts to buy 250,000 cars from Stellantis

Rental company Sixt has agreed to buy 250,000 cars from Stellantis - the automaker behind Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge - just weeks after it severed ties with Tesla.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Tesla dumped by rental giant Sixt - who will instead will buy 250,000 Jeeps, Chryslers and Dodges - in more bad news for EVs and Elon Musk​

 

[TPC]

The same punk asses that return their rental cars dead are probably the same lil bitches that didn't rewind their tapes back when Blockbuster was around. You Millenial homos may not get this reference.

They are now called Zoomers. Don't turn the lights off in the kitchen nor wipe the counters down when done, don't flush the toilet, don't put the cap back on the toothpaste if they even use toothpaste.

 

[lbhsbz]

Looks like rental company Sixt dumping them as well

Sixt divorces Tesla and opts to buy 250,000 cars from Stellantis

Rental company Sixt has agreed to buy 250,000 cars from Stellantis - the automaker behind Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge - just weeks after it severed ties with Tesla.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Tesla dumped by rental giant Sixt - who will instead will buy 250,000 Jeeps, Chryslers and Dodges - in more bad news for EVs and Elon Musk​

Replacing them with products from Chrysler should have a positive effect on their reliability record…

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

They are now called Zoomers. Don't turn the lights off in the kitchen nor wipe the counters down when done, don't flush the toilet, don't put the cap back on the toothpaste if they even use toothpaste.

Spot on..

 

[530RL]

Hertz went all in on Tesla — and is paying the price

Hertz stock recovered in midday trade following an early slide as the company reported a wider-than-expected fourth quarter loss due to its exposure to EVs, in particular its large Tesla fleet.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Markus]

Looks like rental company Sixt dumping them as well

Sixt divorces Tesla and opts to buy 250,000 cars from Stellantis

Rental company Sixt has agreed to buy 250,000 cars from Stellantis - the automaker behind Chrysler, Jeep and Dodge - just weeks after it severed ties with Tesla.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Tesla dumped by rental giant Sixt - who will instead will buy 250,000 Jeeps, Chryslers and Dodges - in more bad news for EVs and Elon Musk​

This is sad.

Sixt is the place where you don’t get Detroit junk.

They have or had the biggest Mercedes fleet in the world.

 

[kurtis500]

I could buy an EV since I have the ideal setup for one. I have a home in central Phoenix and fly in once a week. The garage has 220v and I never drive far. Maybe 2-3k miles a year and all north central Phoenix , Glendale or Scottsdale area.

Even though it’s a perfect setup for one I’d never get a car I can’t get in and drive somewhere if there’s an emergency. Utah, California.. wherever.
That limitation is too risky to accept. I do rent one from hertz occasionally when I fly in.

 

[TPC]

Forcing them on people is politicians trying to steal credit for any EV popularity out there.
I'll rent the new "Highland" Model 3 Tesla if available, nice cars for those with a head for EVs.
There are EV only rental joints in Austin, Ft Lauderdale and other places we often visit.

No contact test drives.
Wife simply walks to a new Tesla at the local location, scans the sticker, car unlocks - turns on and she takes it for a 1 hour Test drive. Never talked to or had contact with a human.

Krauts are taking it all to the next level. Mega improvements.
New Porsche Taycan EV, the 2024 hasn't hit the showrooms yet but 450 to 500 miles on a relatively fast charge. This ain't EPA, this is German moms with a test car load of kids getting these numbers.

Car accept the full blast charge up to 350 KW and doesn't slow down the charge until 90%. Super fast 800V Architecture charging.
Problem is, $225.000 the way to buy it,, and depreciation is brutal. Hopefully reliability is better than past Taycans. Bad ass car to drive.
Wife says they're chix cars.

 

[TPC]

I could buy an EV since I have the ideal setup for one. I have a home in central Phoenix and fly in once a week. The garage has 220v and I never drive far. Maybe 2-3k miles a year and all north central Phoenix , Glendale or Scottsdale area.

Even though it’s a perfect setup for one I’d never get a car I can’t get in and drive somewhere if there’s an emergency. Utah, California.. wherever.
That limitation is too risky to accept. I do rent one from hertz occasionally when I fly in.

I had a Toyota RAV EV for 5 years at my work. Solar charged all the time BTW. 3 year lease with a couple extensions then Toyota wanted the car(s) back.
I mention this because if it sat too long undriven the battery's would go bad.
Not so sure of the new cars are that way but I make sure someone in the family charges and drives the wife's EV when we're away.

We were going to trade it in on the Denali EV truck but we like the car so much it's would be like shooting a prize race horse. Too much fun to drive and still ahead in features and devices other lines don't offer.

The Toyota EV rep was a guy name Brad. A fantastic person to work with, amazing guy got us extensions on the leases Toyota didn't want to do. As good luck would have it he's now our EV service advisor at Kia Irvine.

Should have had delivery on the Denali EV by now, then we get an Email from GM saying Summer 2023, then late 2024, then we're heard 2025, and now,, we hear nothing.
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I was in the parking lot at the M hotel a couple weeks back. They have a couple dozen Tesla chargers. Reports/rumors/tales are as low at 19 cents a KW charging at times. That's 310 miles for $12.

I was walking up to the casino and heard a crash.
Some girl was backing her Tesla at an oddball angle and flattened one charger like a pancake and clipped the one next to it 45 degrees. Evidently the collision avoidance feature failed after Tesla removed the radar sensors on her last service visit.

Works good on the Kia. Stops the car before the driver hits anything and it's saved a dog and a Bob Cat.