Heavy equipment exploit

[Romans9]

The company I contract with has been selling off some of their excess, outdated and unnecessary equipment.
They sold two impact crushers for parts.
A buyer from Mexico bought them off auction. They sent a truck up to pick the track impactor up. This machine is non operational.
They priced to have a crane come and pick it up and load onto the trailer which was going to cost about $5500.
They buyer turned that down and instead opted to hire a tow company to bring out two trucks and lift it up and back the trailer under it for $4000.
The tow company however wouldn’t do it until the Mexican company wired and had cash delivered. The owner said he had been burned by Mexican companies several times and he will not do anything without cash on the barrelhead.

I was sent there by the operations manager to oversee the whole thing and make sure no one took any unnecessary risks or tired anything compromising. Basically make sure no one got killed on mine property.
The poor bastard truck driver (and his family) had to wait 3 days for all this to get sorted out.

For the truck drivers thats 100,000 lbs on a lowboy pulled with a single frame truck. Probably a 9 speed….. but hey its a Mexican truck so no problem.….
Oh and the lowboy trailer had no less than 6 fish plates welded on the rails from being broke.

 

[Dog]

If they kill someone I am sure the .gov will pay for any medical or anything else...

 

[Romans9]

If they kill someone I am sure the taxpayers will pay for any medical or anything else...

Fixed

 

[monkeyswrench]

Why'd the one wrecker back in, and the other swing the boom? I'd be scared as shit...that's a pretty serious lift

 

[Romans9]

Why'd the one wrecker back in, and the other swing the boom? I'd be scared as shit...that's a pretty serious lift

Look at the outriggers on the rotator. That truck is massive.

If you look where the outriggers are at you’ll understand the placement of the truck isn’t as critical as the other truck.

 

[monkeyswrench]

Look at the outriggers on the rotator. That truck is massive.

If you look where the outriggers are at you’ll understand the placement of the truck isn’t as critical as the other truck.

I was looking at the daylight under the rear screws She still looked to be leaning.
It's funny you mention the wrecker company getting hosed previously. A guy I've done work for sold an RGN to a Mexican "company". They wanted to meet him with cash in Tucson. He declined, and asked for the money to be wired...when he was notified, he'd roll in and drop the trailer. Sketchy stuff!

 

[Bajastu]

I’ve sold millions of dollars of equipment south of the border and you always get a wire transfer up front. No deposits or bank checks.

I won’t get too deep, but the cartels love to buy equipment too. Laundering money with tractors is quite common.

 

[Bajastu]

Even at a CAT dealer, things can get sketchy. When someone forgets to order a crane, three excavators picking up a front half of a 657G scraper.

 

[RIVERBORN]

This is all still greedy “American” faults. Just saying.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I was looking at the daylight under the rear screws She still looked to be leaning.
It's funny you mention the wrecker company getting hosed previously. A guy I've done work for sold an RGN to a Mexican "company". They wanted to meet him with cash in Tucson. He declined, and asked for the money to be wired...when he was notified, he'd roll in and drop the trailer. Sketchy stuff!

Looks like the truck is set up on a bit of a slope and the drivers side is lifted up to level the crane before the lift.

For those that know, do those wreckers operate with the same alarms a crane does? The alarms that warn the operator they are close to the reach limit during a lift?

Pretty impressive that two wreckers can do that.

 

[welldigger00]

Are you sure that is 100k machine? No way in hell that’ll scale if the machine is 100k lbs. I’ve got a six axle setup as well, and as far as I can tell, that’s what dude is running. I can put about 65k on mY trailer. Even if it a four axle trailer, no way he’s legal on the drives. Or steers. As far as the rotators go, those things are super buff. If used them several times loading similar fashion.

 

[Romans9]

Are you sure that is 100k machine? No way in hell that’ll scale if the machine is 100k lbs. I’ve got a six axle setup as well, and as far as I can tell, that’s what dude is running. I can put about 65k on mY trailer. Even if it a four axle trailer, no way he’s legal on the drives. Or steers. As far as the rotators go, those things are super buff. If used them several times loading similar fashion.

92,000 plus the wings. I‘m estimating the wings are 5-6000.

I know it wouldn’t scale. That’s a three axle truck.

 

[4Waters]

Are you sure that is 100k machine? No way in hell that’ll scale if the machine is 100k lbs. I’ve got a six axle setup as well, and as far as I can tell, that’s what dude is running. I can put about 65k on mY trailer. Even if it a four axle trailer, no way he’s legal on the drives. Or steers. As far as the rotators go, those things are super buff. If used them several times loading similar fashion.

92,000 plus the wings. I‘m estimating the wings are 5-6000.

I know it wouldn’t scale. That’s a three axle truck.

@FlyByWire is mad he isn't coming his way

 

[Sharky]

Well, I look at the bright side. . . .

They won't be taking I-70 through the mountains of Colorado.

 

[Not So Fast]

Before I retired in 2002 I ran a Kamatsu 1000 excavator (biggest one I ever ran) and dug across the Santa Ana river bed right below the 405 fwy, we lauyed a 84" concrete pipe in to the sewerplant, general cut was about 25-30 ft. and had to slope it out as far as the machine could reach because of the water table being right there below the surface and they had wells drilled above me that sort of contrilled the water but was a mother, had a D8 pushing the material away from me but he couldnt keep up haha. Had to install steel plates to keep the sand from running back in the ditch plus used 2-3" rock for bedding. It took as I remember about a month. That was a big excavator I think it tipped in at 250,000 lbs. you would think it was hard to run but it was a very smooth machine to operate

 

[Smitty7]

Before I retired in 2002 I ran a Kamatsu 1000 excavator (biggest one I ever ran) and dug across the Santa Ana river bed right below the 405 fwy, we lauyed a 84" concrete pipe in to the sewerplant, general cut was about 25-30 ft. and had to slope it out as far as the machine could reach because of the water table being right there below the surface and they had wells drilled above me that sort of contrilled the water but was a mother, had a D8 pushing the material away from me but he couldnt keep up haha. Had to install steel plates to keep the sand from running back in the ditch plus used 2-3" rock for bedding. It took as I remember about a month. That was a big excavator I think it tipped in at 250,000 lbs. you would think it was hard to run but it was a very smooth machine to operate View attachment 1444369 View attachment 1444370

Running sand is the worst. Puts everyone on edge. You must have been a very good operator. Spent my hole life running equipment . Geez and I thought a pc 400 was big. Never saw a 1000.

 

[Bajastu]

Here is a Hyundai R1200-9 that I tore apart and shipped to Florida. It was a 285,000 lb unit. As you can see it was lifted the proper way. Loaded it on eight trucks.

 

[Romans9]

Before I retired in 2002 I ran a Kamatsu 1000 excavator (biggest one I ever ran) and dug across the Santa Ana river bed right below the 405 fwy, we lauyed a 84" concrete pipe in to the sewerplant, general cut was about 25-30 ft. and had to slope it out as far as the machine could reach because of the water table being right there below the surface and they had wells drilled above me that sort of contrilled the water but was a mother, had a D8 pushing the material away from me but he couldnt keep up haha. Had to install steel plates to keep the sand from running back in the ditch plus used 2-3" rock for bedding. It took as I remember about a month. That was a big excavator I think it tipped in at 250,000 lbs. you would think it was hard to run but it was a very smooth machine to operate View attachment 1444369 View attachment 1444370

Nice!

Sand……unforgiving…..


I ran a Hitachi EX1800 excavator not shovel.
It was so smooth and easy to run it was scary.

I also helped rebuild a Hitachi UH801 Excavator style as well. It took us a month just to replace all the hoses.

 

[Bajastu]

Or here's a CAT 5230 Shovel (721,000 lbs) that we had to replace the swing bearings. Not broke, just a product impovement. You can see the guys having lunch under the house that is sitting on wood blocks! Located at Diamond Valley Lake, CA

 

[FROGMAN524]

The company I contract with has been selling off some of their excess, outdated and unnecessary equipment.
They sold two impact crushers for parts.
A buyer from Mexico bought them off auction. They sent a truck up to pick the track impactor up. This machine is non operational.
They priced to have a crane come and pick it up and load onto the trailer which was going to cost about $5500.
They buyer turned that down and instead opted to hire a tow company to bring out two trucks and lift it up and back the trailer under it for $4000.
The tow company however wouldn’t do it until the Mexican company wired and had cash delivered. The owner said he had been burned by Mexican companies several times and he will not do anything without cash on the barrelhead.

I was sent there by the operations manager to oversee the whole thing and make sure no one took any unnecessary risks or tired anything compromising. Basically make sure no one got killed on mine property.
The poor bastard truck driver (and his family) had to wait 3 days for all this to get sorted out.

For the truck drivers thats 100,000 lbs on a lowboy pulled with a single frame truck. Probably a 9 speed….. but hey its a Mexican truck so no problem.….
Oh and the lowboy trailer had no less than 6 fish plates welded on the rails from being broke.

View attachment 1444204

View attachment 1444205

View attachment 1444206

View attachment 1444207

View attachment 1444208

View attachment 1444209

What state is this in?

 

[rivermobster]

Or here's a CAT 5230 Shovel (721,000 lbs) that we had to replace the swing bearings. Not broke, just a product impovement. You can see the guys having lunch under the house that is sitting on wood blocks! Located at Diamond Valley Lake, CA View attachment 1444417

You were part of that dig??

 

[Not So Fast]

Interesting replies eh, when you get to actually see these monsters its very cool and they are BIG!!!!!!!!!!! Then there are the ones that get modified for the job and again we excell haha.
We had a job in Solana Beach where we had to go under PCH highway with a storm drain pipe, normally not a problem but is was sloped so our pit for the push was about 30' deep so they added 10'' to the stick and the boom of the excavator so I could reach the bottom. Problem was the pit was small and to get to dig I had to back up so that I could get the stick in the pit then crawl forward as I dug and it kept getting deeper and deeper, also had to put a much smaller bucket on it because the extra lentgh reduced the amount of payload so that the diggger could handle it. Then there was the problem of not being able to see the bucket and where to dig lol. But we gotter her done
BobbyV

 

[Not So Fast]

Running sand is the worst. Puts everyone on edge. You must have been a very good operator. Spent my hole life running equipment . Geez and I thought a pc 400 was big. Never saw a 1000.

Thanks, we had a few 400's and I like them as they were pretty fast, the 1000 seemd slow compared to them but it was so smooth that I loved it plus the 3 yrad bucket moved a lot of earth, oh and it had A/C lol. Man has made some pretty fantastic macinery huh

 

[Romans9]

What state is this in?

Missouri.

 

[Romans9]

Or here's a CAT 5230 Shovel (721,000 lbs) that we had to replace the swing bearings. Not broke, just a product impovement. You can see the guys having lunch under the house that is sitting on wood blocks! Located at Diamond Valley Lake, CA View attachment 1444417

I believe that either the 5130 or the 5230 had known problems from the factory with the slew bearings.
The company I did work for bought the Hitachi EX1800 instead because of the issue.

 

[rivrrts429]

Or here's a CAT 5230 Shovel (721,000 lbs) that we had to replace the swing bearings. Not broke, just a product impovement. You can see the guys having lunch under the house that is sitting on wood blocks! Located at Diamond Valley Lake, CA View attachment 1444417

I have to find the picture of my semi truck next to the wheel loader they had on that project. I parked it between the wheel loader a triple 7 dump. My semi was tiny compared to both.

I was hauling equipment back and forth to Diamond Valley daily when that job was going.

You brought back some cool memories that I forgot about.

 

[Instigator]

One of our Cat 785 Rigid Frame Trucks loaded on a beam trailer being hauled fully assembled. Had to have a push truck. A couple hundred tires on the transport to move it.
Pic doesn't show both pull and push trucks but you can clearly see all the tires on the trailer.

 

[Bajastu]

You were part of that dig??

I was just starting out in the industry. I was about 17 when it was completed, and they started filling the reservoir. I worked at the CAT dealer who supplied all of the machines to AWZ and Kiewit.

 

[Bajastu]

Trucking these mosters has it's chalenges. Here is a CAT 5130 Shovel sliding off the trailer. I've been in the equipment industry since I was 17 and I have so many "fail" photos.

 

[BHC Vic]

My buddy Doug owns an equipment company. Stultz equipment. I’m not exactly sure what or how it works. I think he owns the tractor and rents them out but then services/repairs them on the job everyday? I don’t know he’s always dirty but one of the most solid guys in my circle.

 

[Your ad here]

My buddy Doug owns an equipment company. Stultz equipment. I’m not exactly sure what or how it works. I think he owns the tractor and rents them out but then services/repairs them on the job everyday? I don’t know he’s always dirty but one of the most solid guys in my circle. View attachment 1444449

There is a market for rental equipment and operators. Equipment always breaks so make sure you have a service truck!

 

[BHC Vic]

There is a market for rental equipment and operators. Equipment always breaks so make sure you have a service truck!

Yea he drives a big Pete with a crane and lights and all the goodies.

 

[Not So Fast]

A side note pertaining to the pay scale. I was reading that floor sweepers and french fry coks wanted $20 @ hour and I thought helll when I retired scale for operators was around $27 an hour, sort of made me feel bad so I called an old buddy and asked him what scale was nowadays, he tells me over $50 @ hr+, now I feel better Still not enough for the respomsibility you assume when you run one of these monsters!!!!!

 

[rivermobster]

I was just starting out in the industry. I was about 17 when it was completed, and they started filling the reservoir. I worked at the CAT dealer who supplied all of the machines to AWZ and Kiewit.

I used to drive out there regularly to watch. I was So stoked we were gonna have a new recreational lake in SoCal!

We all know what happened after it finally got built. That was the biggest tease EVER!!! LoL

Even went to the museum once to check out all the bones they found there...

Western Science Center

Welcome to the Western Science Center Science happens here Learn More

www.westernsciencecenter.org

 

[Bobby V]

A side note pertaining to the pay scale. I was reading that floor sweepers and french fry coks wanted $20 @ hour and I thought helll when I retired scale for operators was around $27 an hour, sort of made me feel bad so I called an old buddy and asked him what scale was nowadays, he tells me over $50 @ hr+, now I feel better Still not enough for the respomsibility you assume when you run one of these monsters!!!!!

Operating Engineers #12 in Orange is closer to $60 a hour plus over $30 a hour in fringe benefits. https://sccaweb.org/labor-relations/wage-rates/

 

[Cdog]

Nice Pete rotators. Notice you never see those in freightliners…

 

[Romans9]

Nice Pete rotators. Notice you never see those in freightliners…

Hahahaha….

 

[4Waters]

Nice Pete rotators. Notice you never see those in freightliners…

This thing is almost new

 

[rrrr]

This thread about big equipment reminded me of a Cajun pipefitter that worked for me in the 80s.

We were talking about large projects one day, and he told me "I've been on jobs that were so big I used to take naps in the bolt hole of a flange."

 

[4Waters]

This thread about big equipment reminded me of a Cajun pipefitter that worked for me in the 80s.

We were talking about large projects one day, and he told me "I've been on jobs that were so big I used to take naps in the bolt hole of a flange."

 

[Your ad here]

Why'd the one wrecker back in, and the other swing the boom? I'd be scared as shit...that's a pretty serious lift

One is a straight boom truck and the other is a rotator.

 

[rrrr]

View attachment 1444483

I could make a crack that's just a small contract in Texas.



Even though it was fabricated in pieces it's still damned impressive.

 

[Bobbyv]

This thread has sort of made me miss working, never thought i'd say that

 

[Romans9]

This thread has sort of made me miss working, never thought i'd say that

Remember the company politics……………..there now you’re over it

 

[Bobbyv]

Remember the company politics……………..there now you’re over it

Your correct on that point, some of the foreman and also the owner of the company had their heads up thier asses, but I worked there for over 20 years, the good out weighed the bad !!!! All in all a good place to work.
PS Do I know you??

 

[River Dirt 2]

Anyone see this in Parker ?

Hercules Open-Cut Dump Bodies - Schlam

Maximise Your True Payload Potential Overview Solution Features & Benefits Case Studies Download Brochure Request a quote Hercules Open Cut Dump Bodies MORE PAYLOAD. LESS STEEL While OEMs are continually innovating their truck designs to improve productivity, OEM dump truck bodies have...

schlam.com

 

[River Dirt 2]

Trump must have ordered a new dump truck to take out the trash in the White House

 

[BHC Vic]

My buddies Pete.

 

[Roosky01]

It's not a rotator, but still pretty awesome. Carl is a relative of mine and fondly remember when he was building this himself 30+ years ago.

 

[HNL2LHC]

Anyone see this in Parker ?

View attachment 1445163

Hercules Open-Cut Dump Bodies - Schlam

Maximise Your True Payload Potential Overview Solution Features & Benefits Case Studies Download Brochure Request a quote Hercules Open Cut Dump Bodies MORE PAYLOAD. LESS STEEL While OEMs are continually innovating their truck designs to improve productivity, OEM dump truck bodies have...

schlam.com

There a few large things stopped there for whatever reason. Some of them are HUGE!!!