Havasu to Desert Bar

DWC · Friday at 6:39 PM

Anyone have the route from Havasu to Desert Bar? @Bpracing1127

rivergames · Friday at 6:47 PM

Backside offroad trail is at River Island Market.

Normal car route is off 95 and Cienega Springs Road

DWC · Friday at 6:49 PM

rivergames said:
Backside offroad trail is at River Island Market.

Normal car route is off 95 and Cienega Springs Road

Thanks. Friends are coming out and they don’t want to trailer. They’re looking for the all day ride.

mbrown2 · Friday at 6:57 PM

Don't think unless you are going out and around Lake Alamo; you will need to get on 95 to cross Bill Williams....there are trails to get you south where the graded lots are along 95....then get on 95 there and cross the river from there and just stay on 95 to river island market... see lots of sxs on that stretch.

c_land · Friday at 7:00 PM

DWC said:
Anyone have the route from Havasu to Desert Bar? @Bpracing1127

This is the one that I have done a couple times. You can cross the Bill Williams at planet ranch. It's 65 miles, they will need to leave early and get gas.

Havasu to Desert Bar.kmz

drive.google.com

DWC · Friday at 7:21 PM

c_land said:
This is the one that I have done a couple times. You can cross the Bill Williams at planet ranch. It's 65 miles, they will need to leave early and get gas.

Havasu to Desert Bar.kmz

drive.google.com

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Thank you.

Bpracing1127 · Friday at 7:27 PM

DWC said:
Thank you.

That’s the same route I have.

SJP · Friday at 8:04 PM

c_land said:
This is the one that I have done a couple times. You can cross the Bill Williams at planet ranch. It's 65 miles, they will need to leave early and get gas.

Havasu to Desert Bar.kmz

drive.google.com

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Is this a route you could do in a Jeep or a lot of single track / UTV?

Thunderhead1 · Friday at 8:32 PM

SJP said:
Is this a route you could do in a Jeep or a lot of single track / UTV?

Jeep is fine.... I run that in my Buggy..in Fact i'm trying to make the Run Saturday if my Posse can get their shit together.

c_land · Friday at 8:38 PM

SJP said:
Is this a route you could do in a Jeep or a lot of single track / UTV?

Thunderhead1 said:
Jeep is fine.... I run that in my Buggy..in Fact i'm trying to make the Run Saturday if my Posse can get their shit together.

You could do it in a jeep, its beat up north of Planet Ranch and the closer you get to parker. It will take a lot longer.

DLC · Saturday at 12:15 AM

It’s an ALL Day Drive !
Bring some extra fuel & load up the big cooler!

DWC · Saturday at 12:27 AM

DLC said:
It’s an ALL Day Drive !
Bring some extra fuel & load up the big cooler!

How long?

Bpracing1127 · Saturday at 1:00 AM

DWC said:
How long?

130 round trip I believe. You will need to get gas in Parker

DWC · Saturday at 2:51 AM

Bpracing1127 said:
130 round trip I believe. You will need to get gas in Parker

How long will it take from Cement plant to Desert Bar?

Bpracing1127 · Saturday at 3:36 AM

DWC said:
How long will it take from Cement plant to Desert Bar?

2-3 hours or so

Orange Juice · Saturday at 4:20 AM

Let’s say it’s raining. How does that trail look? Can you make it through the washes?

DWC · Saturday at 6:27 AM

Orange Juice said:
Let’s say it’s raining. How does that trail look? Can you make it through the washes?

@DLC Lance said it’s gonna be a mess.

Bpracing1127 · Saturday at 12:57 PM

DWC said:
@DLC Lance said it’s gonna be a mess.

Yep it’s gonna be a muddy mess with how much rain came down

Boat 405 · Saturday at 1:52 PM

c_land said:
This is the one that I have done a couple times. You can cross the Bill Williams at planet ranch. It's 65 miles, they will need to leave early and get gas.

Havasu to Desert Bar.kmz

drive.google.com

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Yup, this is the one. Leave at least by 8am to make it back by dark. Trust me on this one. It's an all day ride. You'll need fuel in parker. If you leave late you'll be running the 95 home to beat daylight.

SJP · Saturday at 2:24 PM

OK - couple of other questions. The file linked does not open in my leadNAV app. Does anyone have a GPX ? Or recommend how to import. I have heard Onx is a good app for tablets and phones. What else to you guys use? I get this is a long run. Is it similar in trail level as taking the back way from the River Mart? Is it super technical and a grind or a lot of rutted out washes? I would be going with a group of 4 jeeps in a couple of weeks. Looking for something like this? Also someone mentioned Havasu to the Cattail old graded lots near Bill Williams. Does anyone have a good route they can share?

Also while I am at it what about Alamo Lake run - Anyone do this. I see people running it from the plane (I get there much quicker). Would this be a good day trip. Thanks for the responses - I have kind of been out of the off-road loop.

NicPaus · Saturday at 2:53 PM

Last weekend was a mud pit in Parker Friday and early Saturday. It was perfect riding Sunday.

This last storm based on the puddles on my cameras was a lot more rain. Still fun. Until Monday when you have to clean everything. Probably washed 100lbs of mud of the RZR200 and the trail of mud my can am left on the road was probably 200lbs.

Bpracing1127 · Saturday at 3:44 PM

SJP said:
OK - couple of other questions. The file linked does not open in my leadNAV app. Does anyone have a GPX ? Or recommend how to import. I have heard Onx is a good app for tablets and phones. What else to you guys use? I get this is a long run. Is it similar in trail level as taking the back way from the River Mart? Is it super technical and a grind or a lot of rutted out washes? I would be going with a group of 4 jeeps in a couple of weeks. Looking for something like this? Also someone mentioned Havasu to the Cattail old graded lots near Bill Williams. Does anyone have a good route they can share?

Also while I am at it what about Alamo Lake run - Anyone do this. I see people running it from the plane (I get there much quicker). Would this be a good day trip. Thanks for the responses - I have kind of been out of the off-road loop.

Send me your email I’ll send you the file

Also you can convert the file using gps babel app. It’s free and works well

SJP · Saturday at 4:02 PM

Bpracing1127 said:
Send me your email I’ll send you the file

Also you can convert the file using gps babel app. It’s free and works well

Roger - I just downloaded and subscribed to Onx - it appear as to have a lot more trail information than LeadNAV. Appreciate the tips and routes. Thank you.

c_land · Saturday at 4:07 PM

SJP said:
OK - couple of other questions. The file linked does not open in my leadNAV app. Does anyone have a GPX ? Or recommend how to import. I have heard Onx is a good app for tablets and phones. What else to you guys use? I get this is a long run. Is it similar in trail level as taking the back way from the River Mart? Is it super technical and a grind or a lot of rutted out washes? I would be going with a group of 4 jeeps in a couple of weeks. Looking for something like this? Also someone mentioned Havasu to the Cattail old graded lots near Bill Williams. Does anyone have a good route they can share?

Also while I am at it what about Alamo Lake run - Anyone do this. I see people running it from the plane (I get there much quicker). Would this be a good day trip. Thanks for the responses - I have kind of been out of the off-road loop.

You can use Gaia GPS and import straight in as a .KMZ using your phone.

baja-chris · Saturday at 4:38 PM

I use Gaia via carplay on the OEM nav system in the Jeep. And use a Lowrance in the SxS. Happy with both methods.
File format translations can be done on line with GPS Visualizer or GPSBabel.
You can download a ton of trails from the AZPT site (AZ Peace Trail). Plus there are other sources with tons of trails to take you to Alamo Lake and beyond.

c_land · Saturday at 5:58 PM

This is what my google earth looks like from planning offroad trips, if anyone wants something in the CA desert or west/north central AZ dez I may have it.

I've got wilderness, Indian Rez, and Military areas all loaded, so its all legit.

Racer56 · Saturday at 8:11 PM

c_land said:
This is what my google earth looks like from planning offroad trips, if anyone wants something in the CA desert or west/north central AZ dez I may have it.

I've got wilderness, Indian Rez, and Military areas all loaded, so its all legit.

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Have you done these rides or did you just plan the on Google earth?

2Driver · Saturday at 8:19 PM

SJP said:
OK - couple of other questions. The file linked does not open in my leadNAV app. Does anyone have a GPX ? Or recommend how to import. I have heard Onx is a good app for tablets and phones. What else to you guys use? I get this is a long run. Is it similar in trail level as taking the back way from the River Mart? Is it super technical and a grind or a lot of rutted out washes? I would be going with a group of 4 jeeps in a couple of weeks. Looking for something like this? Also someone mentioned Havasu to the Cattail old graded lots near Bill Williams. Does anyone have a good route they can share?

Also while I am at it what about Alamo Lake run - Anyone do this. I see people running it from the plane (I get there much quicker). Would this be a good day trip. Thanks for the responses - I have kind of been out of the off-road loop.

A good run Sam is standard wash to Wikieup and back. Lunch in Wikieup and fuel.
Lots of terrain variety. Low desert wide open sandy washes to Joshua forest at 3600’.

BTW Gaia gps is my preference but onx will do. Both better than leadnav for what you are doing

c_land · Saturday at 8:44 PM

Racer56 said:
Have you done these rides or did you just plan the on Google earth?

I’ve been on all of them

EarpRider · Saturday at 9:07 PM

NicPaus said:
Last weekend was a mud pit in Parker Friday and early Saturday. It was perfect riding Sunday.

This last storm based on the puddles on my cameras was a lot more rain. Still fun. Until Monday when you have to clean everything. Probably washed 100lbs of mud of the RZR200 and the trail of mud my can am left on the road was probably 200lbs.

It was perfect in Earp on Wednesday, before Thur/Friday rain.

DLC · Saturday at 10:35 PM

2Driver said:
A good run Sam is standard wash to Wikieup and back. Lunch in Wikieup and fuel.
Lots of terrain variety. Low desert wide open sandy washes to Joshua forest at 3600’.

BTW Gaia gps is my preference but onx will do. Both better than leadnav for what you are doing

Another Good run is to Baghdad Az for lunch & fuel - pass by Camp Bose

It’s a fun trail !

DWC · 2025-03-16T03:01:16+0000

Great run today. (Thanks for the map gentlemen). The trail is pretty simple and easy to maneuver except for the last stretch into Desert Bar. Gets pretty rocky before the main road.
PS. You definitely need more gas.

HNL2LHC · 2025-03-16T04:33:41+0000

Awesome to see that you did it. Looks like great conditions.

c_land · 2025-03-16T15:07:20+0000

DWC said:
Great run today. (Thanks for the map gentlemen). The trail is pretty simple and easy to maneuver except for the last stretch into Desert Bar. Gets pretty rocky before the main road.
PS. You definitely need more gas.

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A 200 mile day is dang good

JFMFG · 2025-03-16T15:12:42+0000

Heck ya looks like a great time.

DWC · 2025-03-16T15:36:35+0000

c_land said:
A 200 mile day is dang good

Might have added 30ish due to fuel miscalculations

. That trail is outstanding. Wide open, some canyons, mostly fast.. The whole group was excited to do it again.

Bpracing1127 · 2025-03-16T15:46:25+0000

DWC said:
Might have added 30ish due to fuel miscalculations. That trail is outstanding. Wide open, some canyons, mostly fast.. The whole group was excited to do it again.

Glad it worked out!!!

HNL2LHC · 2025-03-16T15:50:09+0000

DWC said:
Might have added 30ish due to fuel miscalculations. That trail is outstanding. Wide open, some canyons, mostly fast.. The whole group was excited to do it again.

Sounds like the ride up to golden Valley that I did with @Bpracing1127 and his gang. Maybe you’d be interested in doing it again some time and drag me along.

Bpracing1127 · 2025-03-16T15:59:44+0000

HNL2LHC said:
Sounds like the ride up to golden Valley that I did with @Bpracing1127 and his gang. Maybe you’d be interested in doing it again some time and drag me along.

Yep I do all the cool kid rides!!! I have most of western Az mapped out. Slowly getting utah.

DWC · 2025-03-16T16:10:32+0000

HNL2LHC said:
Sounds like the ride up to golden Valley that I did with @Bpracing1127 and his gang. Maybe you’d be interested in doing it again some time and drag me along.

Absolutely. When does it close for the year? Would be nice to sneak it in

DWC · 2025-03-16T16:11:43+0000

Bpracing1127 said:
Yep I do all the cool kid rides!!! I have most of western Az mapped out. Slowly getting utah.

I need the Alamo map as well. Gotta figure out cabin reservations far enough in advance but definitely want to do it again.

HNL2LHC · 2025-03-16T16:53:58+0000

DWC said:
Absolutely. When does it close for the year? Would be nice to sneak it in

Season is until the end of April. Maybe a weekend around SCFW or Desert Storm. Just gotta find a weekend we are both in town.

Outdrive1 · 2025-03-16T16:54:50+0000

I’ve done all those trails but never on the same day.

Bpracing1127 · 2025-03-16T16:59:05+0000

DWC said:
I need the Alamo map as well. Gotta figure out cabin reservations far enough in advance but definitely want to do it again.

I’ll send those to you. Shit I might go too

free ride · 2025-03-16T17:19:16+0000

Gotta love a desert bar run. We did one from Parker strip on pit bikes a year ago. So much fun as people were tripping out when 7 adults on kids bikes show up. Just glad there were no checkpoints on our ride back! If you hear of a story of a guy riding his pit bike through the bar I might know something about it.

satellitemike · 2025-03-17T00:39:17+0000

DWC said:
Might have added 30ish due to fuel miscalculations. That trail is outstanding. Wide open, some canyons, mostly fast.. The whole group was excited to do it again.

Let me know when you do the ride again!

Melloyellovector · 2025-03-17T03:15:47+0000

We went to oatman Friday and I’m sure crossed paths Saturday in Havasu. Saturday made it out to dollar cabin and phone died ONX map on it, Michelle was makin - this is where we die videos for when her phone was discovered

Oatman was a good time but cold as fuk, started snowing just above us for a bit, then rain that was supposed to be gone by 1 didn’t, lol

havasu was good, until phone died, lol

DWC · 2025-03-17T03:22:25+0000

Melloyellovector said:
We went to oatman Friday and I’m sure crossed paths Saturday in Havasu. Saturday made it out to dollar cabin and phone died ONX map on it, Michelle was makin - this is where we die videos for when her phone was discovered
Oatman was a good time but cold as fuk, started snowing just above us for a bit, then rain that was supposed to be gone by 1 didn’t, lol
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Guessing you guys were a bit ahead of us. @Bullhead bully. Was that you cruising around?

Bullhead bully · 2025-03-17T03:42:35+0000

DWC said:
Guessing you guys were a bit ahead of us. @Bullhead bully. Was that you crushing around?

No it was a friend of mine

Melloyellovector · 2025-03-17T07:01:01+0000

DWC said:
Guessing you guys were a bit ahead of us. @Bullhead bully. Was that you cruising around?

It was around 4-430 passin dollar cabin when phone died, lol

Bullhead bully said:
No it was a friend of mine

what kind of motor? Sounded about like a hyabusa, phone pics don’t do it justice, he was low coming over that ridge. That’s got to be an epic way to see the desert

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