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This is really good. It really goes into how the sea was formed.
if you put anything of value in there, you better have a full time baby sitter living there.Good video. I've considered buying one of those lots on the 86 side and putting a building on it to park the Glamis toys in so I don't have to drive everything all the way home every trip. Wouldn't necessarily be an investment, but it could be if a plan to restore the lake actually goes through.
If you see Pelosi or Newsom buying property there, do the same. That means a plan to fix it all is finally happening.
Really? Oh man would I enjoy hearing your story.... if you get in the mood post it up.... I've always been fascinated by that place. Perhaps you worked in the nearby prison? Made a trip there to see warden back in mid 90s...A perfect depiction of the problem facing the sea.Lived and worked there from 1962-2012.
Really? Oh man would I enjoy hearing your story.... if you get in the mood post it up.... I've always been fascinated by that place. Perhaps you worked in the nearby prison? Made a trip there to see warden back in mid 90s...
Thnk you for posting this video.... very informative.... my take aways were originally the farmers aqueducts pulled necessaary water off the Colorado river and then there were a series of hurricanes that just overwhelmed the Salton Sea and unfortunately it being below sea level everything drained right into the community over several years of flooding. Then what followed was evaporation and salt levels not allowing sea life to survive. The authors are calling on Sacramento to approve money to pull water from Sea of Cortez. 15 miles like a small ask however they can't get traction. have I got that about right @pipemn? I'm sure I've missed plenty of detail. Its a shame that the structures/ homes built weren't on stilts as they are in areas I'm familiar with in Carolinas and Delaware shores where they expect high water rises... but it makes sense in that none of the builders expected such flooding. Regardless, the reduction of water and shorelines is a separate issue today. For instance when I visited the area going out to the prison nearby the warden said the fish in that water were toxic at best... that was around 1995. I had no idea there was still a community living in the area.... anyone have any ideas as to the future of the Salton Sea? Kinda sounds like the cheapest solution is carving a channel that 15 miles off the Sea of Cortez ... I didn't hear any commentary regarding talks with Mexican gov't about that. Thoughts?This is really good. It really goes into how the sea was formed.
The videos about an hour but well done for sure.Or worked on/for the canal,
I remember in the late 1960’s and early 1970’s waterskiing on 2 ski behind an old army Jeep.
Most of the area was not closed off back then.
We took the can am from glamis north last year to Bombay beach. First time at both. Bombay beach definiteI was staying in Palm Springs and I drove around Salton Sea one day. Stopped in Bombay Beach. Place is a shithole. I would love to have seen it back in the day. I think my grandma still has property there or “land” there. It looks good from far but is far from good.
Thnk you for posting this video.... very informative.... my take aways were originally the farmers aqueducts pulled necessaary water off the Colorado river and then there were a series of hurricanes that just overwhelmed the Salton Sea and unfortunately it being below sea level everything drained right into the community over several years of flooding. Then what followed was evaporation and salt levels not allowing sea life to survive. The authors are calling on Sacramento to approve money to pull water from Sea of Cortez. 15 miles like a small ask however they can't get traction. have I got that about right @pipemn? I'm sure I've missed plenty of detail. Its a shame that the structures/ homes built weren't on stilts as they are in areas I'm familiar with in Carolinas and Delaware shores where they expect high water rises... but it makes sense in that none of the builders expected such flooding. Regardless, the reduction of water and shorelines is a separate issue today. For instance when I visited the area going out to the prison nearby the warden said the fish in that water were toxic at best... that was around 1995. I had no idea there was still a community living in the area.... anyone have any ideas as to the future of the Salton Sea? Kinda sounds like the cheapest solution is carving a channel that 15 miles off the Sea of Cortez ... I didn't hear any commentary regarding talks with Mexican gov't about that. Thoughts?
It's rather depressing to see how it's all run down. You can see all the 50s & 60s buildings were set up for recreation. The endless camp grounds along the eastern shore. Beaches look amazing from hwy111 but cut the Fk outta your feet if you walk on them.I was staying in Palm Springs and I drove around Salton Sea one day. Stopped in Bombay Beach. Place is a shithole. I would love to have seen it back in the day. I think my grandma still has property there or “land” there. It looks good from far but is far from good.
I've always thought they needed a pipeline that circulated the water to/from sea of cortez and not let it stagnate....I mean, according to many scientists, salton basin was once part of that ocean anyhow.Thnk you for posting this video.... very informative.... my take aways were originally the farmers aqueducts pulled necessaary water off the Colorado river and then there were a series of hurricanes that just overwhelmed the Salton Sea and unfortunately it being below sea level everything drained right into the community over several years of flooding. Then what followed was evaporation and salt levels not allowing sea life to survive. The authors are calling on Sacramento to approve money to pull water from Sea of Cortez. 15 miles like a small ask however they can't get traction. have I got that about right @pipemn? I'm sure I've missed plenty of detail. Its a shame that the structures/ homes built weren't on stilts as they are in areas I'm familiar with in Carolinas and Delaware shores where they expect high water rises... but it makes sense in that none of the builders expected such flooding. Regardless, the reduction of water and shorelines is a separate issue today. For instance when I visited the area going out to the prison nearby the warden said the fish in that water were toxic at best... that was around 1995. I had no idea there was still a community living in the area.... anyone have any ideas as to the future of the Salton Sea? Kinda sounds like the cheapest solution is carving a channel that 15 miles off the Sea of Cortez ... I didn't hear any commentary regarding talks with Mexican gov't about that. Thoughts?
I’ve had those same thoughts but unfortunately the stuff probably wouldn’t last a day out there without full time security.Good video. I've considered buying one of those lots on the 86 side and putting a building on it to park the Glamis toys in so I don't have to drive everything all the way home every trip. Wouldn't necessarily be an investment, but it could be if a plan to restore the lake actually goes through.
If you see Pelosi or Newsom buying property there, do the same. That means a plan to fix it all is finally happening.
Loved glamis north. There’s a way to the chiraco summit as well. Great riding. Underrated.Stayed at Glamis North last year for the 1st time. Placed reminded me of boon docking but had full hookups. Kids zipping around on small bikes and there was even a hospital run for a liquored up dad who tried his first ride after dark on saturday. Good times. Lol. Def memories of some Cal City trips.
we did rides to salvation city and bombay beach. While bombay beach was a shit hole, we drove the streets and found some interesting stuff and the “Ski Inn” had good food and drinks. Also found dunes south of salvation city. I would go back
Didn't watch the video, but I'm curious about your 15 mile ditch, when it's 112 miles as the crow flies to the Sea of Cortez ??Thnk you for posting this video.... very informative.... my take aways were originally the farmers aqueducts pulled necessaary water off the Colorado river and then there were a series of hurricanes that just overwhelmed the Salton Sea and unfortunately it being below sea level everything drained right into the community over several years of flooding. Then what followed was evaporation and salt levels not allowing sea life to survive. The authors are calling on Sacramento to approve money to pull water from Sea of Cortez. 15 miles like a small ask however they can't get traction. have I got that about right @pipemn? I'm sure I've missed plenty of detail. Its a shame that the structures/ homes built weren't on stilts as they are in areas I'm familiar with in Carolinas and Delaware shores where they expect high water rises... but it makes sense in that none of the builders expected such flooding. Regardless, the reduction of water and shorelines is a separate issue today. For instance when I visited the area going out to the prison nearby the warden said the fish in that water were toxic at best... that was around 1995. I had no idea there was still a community living in the area.... anyone have any ideas as to the future of the Salton Sea? Kinda sounds like the cheapest solution is carving a channel that 15 miles off the Sea of Cortez ... I didn't hear any commentary regarding talks with Mexican gov't about that. Thoughts?
Didn't watch the video, but I'm curious about your 15 mile ditch, when it's 112 miles as the crow flies to the Sea of Cortez ??
So that existing canal carries water from the Sea of Cortez, downhill, inland 90 miles for what ??? Not arguing, just obviously curious why.They showed it connecting to an existing canal
I see, thanks !!!You only need to get to the top of new river in Mexicali, then it free flows into the Salton Sea if you just want sea water and not cargo ships. Also the Laguna Salada dry lakebed north end is only about 7 miles from the border and is just above sea level. It partially fills when there are king tides or big storms and there is already a canal dug into the center of it from the sea, to a place named El Oasis. Canal is for pangas for fishing access and I think it was dug in the 80’s. It’s not deep enough to flow sea water under normal tides but it’s there as a start.
I have ran from just past Chiarco summit over to Glamis North, Salvation mountain and over to Yuma, then back thru the Salton Sea, that was the last time I had been to the Sea.Loved glamis north. There’s a way to the chiraco summit as well. Great riding. Underrated.
I did the Treasure Trails event from the time Helen started, when I was in High School, until it ended about 10 years ago, great memories and good times drinking at Helen's Hut!I started Off-Roading, and riding dirt bikes at the Sea when I was in High School. My friends invited me out to their "desert" house, and it was basically the first time I had been to the desert. My friends family, had many friends who weekend houses there, and it became my go to spot. Between the friends, and their friends, I believe we had around 15 houses that we would go in between, and meet, and organize our rides from, or just party.
This street here, Aloha, my friends and Family, own both sides of the entire street now. Many of them have removed the fences in between their lots, so it's basically a giant compound now.
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Back then, in the late 80's and early 90's, there was still the Marina in Salton Sea Beach, with a cool little store we could buy beer and sit out on the water and drink. One of our friends dad had an old Jet boat, a Kona I believe, that we would take out and fuck around with, by that time the water was already nasty, and we would pray we didn't get splashed in the face, or fall in. The marina was full of boats back then, both Sail Boats, and Power boats. It's all dry now too.
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We would ride from the Sea to Ocotillo wells, up almost to Coachella, and every where in between.
The "Trees" was the place to be at night, only about 2 miles into the desert and there was huge section of trees in the middle of nowhere, and everyone would meet there to have a giant fire and party. It really was the best of times there.
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There used to be a couple really cool and large off-road events there, Treasure Trails being the largest, with probably an average of 200 cars, then there was the Halloween, spooky wash, and some sand drags over easter.
During the 80's and early 90's this building was still active, and was private club house. One of our friends grand parents was a member, so we could poach the pool during the warmer months at the Sea, until we usually got kicked out for being too loud.
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We would also often ride to the Old Military base that was further south, and was a fairly decent ride, with an awesome destination. During those times, ALL the buildings from the base were still mostly intact, and we could explore them and look at old shit. There were still chairs and desks, a club house and empty pool, and the buildings looked like they used it as ordinance practice at some point before we got there. Last time I was there, it was all gone.
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When I proposed to my wife, it was at the Iron Door in Ocotillo Wells, my buddy and I took my old 5/1600 car, and my wife and his wife, took her old grandpa's pan buggy, from Salton Sea Beach. The plan was for the girls to get "lost" so that we could beat them to the Iron Door, well my car broke, and we needed to return to the house to fix it, then start the journey over, the girls just kept drinking, and by the time we got to the Door, and I hung the dollars bills in front of the bar stool, my wife was HAMMERED. People had saved one lonely seat at the bar for her to sit, with the dollars hanging in front of her face, it took her probably 10 minutes to actually "see" them, with the entire bar laughing at me trying to get her attention to look up.
The Salton Sea, is a near and dear place to me, and it's sad to see how far the water is down, and how "unlively" it is now.
Oh yeah, I knew Helen, and we would go to Helens hut often. The last Treasure Trails was probably in 2010, maybe 2011, based on me guessing my son's age. I hadn't been since probably 2000, and the wife and I decided it had been to long, so we took our motorhome out to our friends house on Aloha with the kids. We had missed the Sea and Treasure Trails, and said, we weren't missing it again. Turns out it was the very last Treasure Trails, and I was so glad that we had made that weekend.I did the Treasure Trails event from the time Helen started, when I was in High School, until it ended about 10 years ago, great memories and good times drinking at Helen's Hut!
Heard that too....boy would that be a game changer.Supposedly the amount of Lithium below the sea is the largest in the country. It may become a hot spot again if that pans out. There could be lots of jobs. But I'm not exactly rushing out to buy lots yet.![]()
Hang on buddy....might get interesting for ya.My grandma bought 4 lots in Salton City back in 1966. Her hope was to build a dome home on one of the lots and sell the other 3 to help fund the build. Needless to say, that never happened. We she passed away 5 years ago, 4 of us older grandchildren got a lot. My 3 cousins immediately sold their lots for $4k each. I decided to keep mine in hopes of one day maybe something will change and I could keep my grandmothers hope alive…sort of! Lol Property taxes are a whopping $34 per year…pretty cheap all things considering.
Btw: the lithium mining is real plan for the area. Been getting offers every month since January 1 from a brokerage firm to buy my lot. Started at $1500 and now they are offering $9k…somethings up.
Havent gone that route for like 20 years. How is the road?I usually take the 111 back from glamis. Backside of salton sea. Its an impressive lake, would be freakin amazing if they could turn that place around
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I still have a bunch of these from Treasure Trails.Oh yeah, I knew Helen, and we would go to Helens hut often. The last Treasure Trails was probably in 2010, maybe 2011, based on me guessing my son's age. I hadn't been since probably 2000, and the wife and I decided it had been to long, so we took our motorhome out to our friends house on Aloha with the kids. We had missed the Sea and Treasure Trails, and said, we weren't missing it again. Turns out it was the very last Treasure Trails, and I was so glad that we had made that weekend.
I was at all of those TT that you had the dash plaques for, those pics from Helen's, I'm sure I'm probably there somewhere.I still have a bunch of these from Treasure Trails.
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The drinks at Helen's were strong and cheap.
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We always camped a mile or soo down the road on an old slab which was the only thing left of Lido Palms.
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This photo was taken at Mike's Tackle Box - the home of the Original Desert Martini!
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So that existing canal carries water from the Sea of Cortez, downhill, inland 90 miles for what ??? Not arguing, just obviously curious why.
I know the New River drains from the farm fields carrying pollutants into the Sea, but I can't imagine the farmers wanting that connected to the Gulf ??
Same problem we have in San Diego with Mexico dumping raw sewage into the Tijuana River that flows into the ocean and onto our beaches. Shithole country!I didn't watch the vid, so not sure to what extent they brought up the New River, but it's not just the agriculture pollutants that are creating the problem, it's more that the New River originates in Mexicali and flows northward into the Salton Sea, and Mexico dumps its raw sewage, industrial, and agricultural pollutants into the New River. 80%+ of the pollutants going into the Salton Sea via the New River originate in Mexico, and that's really the problem. Any proposed solutions to clean up the Salton Sea that do not address this will be ineffective and fail.
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That ain't no lie unfortunately.Same problem we have in San Diego with Mexico dumping raw sewage into the Tijuana River that flows into the ocean and onto our beaches. Shithole country!
Horrible, can’t go over 50Havent gone that route for like 20 years. How is the road?
if you put anything of value in there, you better have a full time baby sitter living there.
years back my son decided to go site seeing, he left glamis before me. He got stuck up to the frame in muck. Attempted to get him out after I disconnected trailer on a street that made the hills have eyes look like a nice area.
Ended up paying Fester on a tractor that watched it all go down for couple hours 300 bucks to drag him out 15 feet, lol
But you ain’tif you see newsom taking interest, lol
Good points and really my main concern. Was kind of thinking a well secured shop with a decent fence around the property and the diesel pusher backed into the shop with the trailer connected. Disable the motorhome from being able to start and it would pretty much be impossible to get the trailer/sand rail out. Not much anybody could really steal in that case?I’ve had those same thoughts but unfortunately the stuff probably wouldn’t last a day out there without full time security.
You first , lolGood points and really my main concern. Was kind of thinking a well secured shop with a decent fence around the property and the diesel pusher backed into the shop with the trailer connected. Disable the motorhome from being able to start and it would pretty much be impossible to get the trailer/sand rail out. Not much anybody could really steal in that case?
But yeah, if someone is determined enough to figure it all out, that could be a problem.
"The Saudi Arabia of green Lithium." Clean by-product of the 5 geothermal electric generation plants there. Scaling up now to 650.000 tons a year. 3rd most common element on earth.Supposedly the amount of Lithium below the sea is the largest in the country. It may become a hot spot again if that pans out. There could be lots of jobs. But I'm not exactly rushing out to buy lots yet.![]()
My older relatives used to talk about vacations there. "So Salty you easily floated no matter what."Interesting video. My mom's side of the family went to the Salton Sea in the 60's and 70's. We just dumped my aunt's ashes into the lake at Desert shores. The beaches are all fish bones now.