Glamis wash 4 rv fire

[rivermobster]

This is why I don’t camp in the lower washes

Fixed it for ya.

 

[D19]

There is usually 1 or 2 there that put up the tape. Waiting for there crew. You take it down and a fight ensues.

100% right about that!

A long time ago my quad broke in the dunes. My buddy went back and got his truck to meet us at Gecko. My other buddy towed me back. After getting roosted through the dunes for what seemed like forever, we approach Gecko, see our friends truck and wanted cut through someone's 1/4 mile long taped off camp. There was plenty of room for us to go through. They had way more space taped off than they needed.

Right when we went under their tape 5-6 entitled jerks run up on us telling us we can't pass through. I'm pointing at Gecko like 300ft away at my buddies truck showing them where we are going and they're demanding we back up and go around. We were like 21 years old, super nice and respectful but we've got a camp of grown ass 40 year old+ drunk crybabies threating to kick our asses if we didn't turn around. Even the mom's came out trying to human wall block us and running their mouths. It got really heated and ugly but we ended up going through thanks to the people at the next camp over seeing what was going on sticking up for us.

I love Glamis, but the place attracts some of the worst self entitled people I have ever met.

 

[Willie B]

… i’ve always tried to find remote places to vacation…that other people don’t know about so consequently I’ve mostly never had to go through much of this stuff… This was one of the reasons reasons I had 100 acres to myself up above Lake Oroville for 21 years… But truthfully, no matter where you go… Something might happen on the negative with other people

 

[DrunkenSailor]

If I make it back to glamis I'm gonna camp at China wall. The only people who make it out there are usually pretty solid. The i financed this last week and I'm gonna do my best to total it on day one crowd usually don't make it that far.

 

[RVRKID]

Solar trailer looked like it wasn’t on fire in your picture of it.

EDIT** picture you posted. No idea if you took it or just shared it.

No I didn’t take any they were on Glamisdunes

 

[NicPaus]

Any updates?
I tried logging into GD.com got the message must accept cookies to log in but it doesn't give the option to accept.

 

[thmterry]

I went to Glamis for MLK weekend, first time in 15 years. Show up on Wednesday morning and cruise down Gecko rd. everything is taken with ghost campers or cones. I go to roadrunner and turn around. I figure I will squeeze in the little area between two camps. I get back to pad 2 and some guy has cones from midway of the pad till about 50 feet from the end. So I drove between his cones and take the end of the pad. I am 65 feet long, and maybe a little in his coned off section..

As I am getting out of my truck here comes some guy running at me from 200 yards away. He is yelling at me, "you ran over my cones, didn't you see I had that blocked." So after he gets done yelling at me and asking me if I want to fight we come to an agreement.

As it turns out he only ended up using half the amount of space as he had coned off. He did apologize the next day and tell me I could use more space if I needed.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

Geezus, never realized that Glamis was this bad with people "saving" spots. Why do people need camps that are 1/4 mile long? I don't get it.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

Geezus, never realized that Glamis was this bad with people "saving" spots. Why do people need camps that are 1/4 mile long? I don't get it.

There is a point to it. If you don't mark off an area you get dumbasses ripping through your camp at full speed. A buffer is needed for safety. I don't think you need an acre though.

 

[riverroyal]

Theres no law or rule about leaving you shit parked out there? So I can drop a rv, then drop a solar trailer and go home?
Sooo. Free storage in the winter with a place to go once a month.

Is this similar to the nomad rvs around havasu when it comes to laws?

 

[monkeyswrench]

Regarding the solar trailers. A metric shit to of those hit the market over the past three years. Most of them were from some failed Obama project. They were mostly set up with two chinesium inverters, and lead acid batteries. Some were set up with light towers as well. The trailers themselves, panel mounting and such, were pretty good. Now, the ones that hit CL after the auctions, were a shit show. Some had parts missing, some had bad batteries...some had "new" batteries. There seemed to be a lot of variables, and not knowing who did what, or not fully understanding what the seller did, could be real bad. I was looking into one pretty heavily, and that's when I decided to amass parts to do it myself. At least that way it's my own fault if something goes wrong.

 

[Wizard29]

Theres no law or rule about leaving you shit parked out there? So I can drop a rv, then drop a solar trailer and go home?
Sooo. Free storage in the winter with a place to go once a month.

Is this similar to the nomad rvs around havasu when it comes to laws?

There is, but the BLM does a shit job of enforcement so people keep doing it. The 72 hour abandoned vehicle laws apply and there is also a two week limit on being able to stay within the ISDRA.

Wouldn't bother me to see more dropped rigs burn. People who do that are assholes and are major contributors to the decline of Glamis.

 

[Icky]

Theres no law or rule about leaving you shit parked out there? So I can drop a rv, then drop a solar trailer and go home?
Sooo. Free storage in the winter with a place to go once a month.

Is this similar to the nomad rvs around havasu when it comes to laws?

There's a 14 day rule that they don't enforce. On gecko rd those guys saving spots don't care if they get a ticket, they get to leave their shit there all season and they may have to pay a small fine. Or they have 1 person that's stays there to guard the ghost camp.
They did tow a few people, but it didn't change anything.

In the washes you get larger groups, so whoever is there first usually tries to save a spot for all your friends. It definitely causes issues, especially when you show up late and decide your camp should be on the only way in and out of the wash and threaten to pull guns on people for cutting through your camp.( like everyone there isn't armed)

 

[Wizard29]

There's a 14 day rule that they don't enforce. On gecko rd those guys saving spots don't care if they get a ticket, they get to leave their shit there all season and they may have to pay a small fine. Or they have 1 person that's stays there to guard the ghost camp.
They did tow a few people, but it didn't change anything.

In the washes you get larger groups, so whoever is there first usually tries to save a spot for all your friends. It definitely causes issues, especially when you show up late and decide your camp should be on the only way in and out of the wash and threaten to pull guns on people for cutting through your camp.( like everyone there isn't armed)

The unfortunate part of all this is that if people keep it up and don't police themselves (or the BLM refuses to) a reservation system is headed to Glamis. Just take a look at all other places that have gotten too crowded/fucked up to manage well. Now you need a reservation.

Assholes need to knock it off before that happens...

 

[Ziggy]

Greed and selfish arrogance prevails. Plain & simply put.

 

[Socalx09]

We had wash 12 almost to ourselves a few weeks back so it’s really the holiday weekends that cause these issues. It was super nice and the kids could safely ride around camp without worry. It is not like this every weekend

 

[TPC]

I went to Glamis for MLK weekend, first time in 15 years. Show up on Wednesday morning and cruise down Gecko rd. everything is taken with ghost campers or cones. I go to roadrunner and turn around. I figure I will squeeze in the little area between two camps. I get back to pad 2 and some guy has cones from midway of the pad till about 50 feet from the end. So I drove between his cones and take the end of the pad. I am 65 feet long, and maybe a little in his coned off section..

As I am getting out of my truck here comes some guy running at me from 200 yards away. He is yelling at me, "you ran over my cones, didn't you see I had that blocked." So after he gets done yelling at me and asking me if I want to fight we come to an agreement.

As it turns out he only ended up using half the amount of space as he had coned off. He did apologize the next day and tell me I could use more space if I needed.

Cone and yellow tape Land Barons.
Ghost Camps are the Plague of Glamis.

Calif Legislature did pass a law they can be towed.
Dunno how it effects federal property but the CHP is usually called in with vehicle incidences so there may be some jurisdiction.
The 14 day limit is never enforced.

 

[brgrcru]

One of many reasons , the sand toys were sold .
At this point I don’t miss it .

 

[2Driver]

Theres no law or rule about leaving you shit parked out there? So I can drop a rv, then drop a solar trailer and go home?
Sooo. Free storage in the winter with a place to go once a month.

Is this similar to the nomad rvs around havasu when it comes to laws?

To think the whole idea started with a plastic chair and an easy-up left on a beach

 

[Wizard29]

We had wash 12 almost to ourselves a few weeks back so it’s really the holiday weekends that cause these issues. It was super nice and the kids could safely ride around camp without worry. It is not like this every weekend

It is at Roadrunner, Gecko, and the pads. I came in at 10AM on a Wednesday before an "off" weekend recently and was not able to get a spot at pad 4 or Roadrunner. Got one of the last spots available at Gecko.

People with cones out, vehicles strategically spread apart, and camps that were obviously not occupied. Ridiculous.

 

[rivermobster]

Geezus, never realized that Glamis was this bad with people "saving" spots. Why do people need camps that are 1/4 mile long? I don't get it.

You're been to Lake Havasu, yes?

Same shit, different place...

Don't go on a holiday weekend.

Don't hang out at the popular spots.

Keep your eye on the weather.

Same shit, different place.

 

[Justsomeguy]

I have 3 little ones. I have a friend who's kid died run over in camp. So I definitely understand the cones and tape. But people definitely take it to far. I just want a safe area for my kids to play without jackasses ripping through. They still do by the way. In pismo you have to be like 50 feet from the fencing. We put a few cones between the fence and the trailer. People still blew right between there. Could have easily gone around us. Not much to go around.

 

[CLCookie]

It is at Roadrunner, Gecko, and the pads. I came in at 10AM on a Wednesday before an "off" weekend recently and was not able to get a spot at pad 4 or Roadrunner. Got one of the last spots available at Gecko.

People with cones out, vehicles strategically spread apart, and camps that were obviously not occupied. Ridiculous.

I showed up to Glamis on Christmas morning, there was a ghost camp right where we usually camp. I just pulled up and parked so close to them that they couldn't get into their trailers, I am over it. They showed up 5 days later, not a word was said, but I did enjoy watching them trying to hook up their stuff to move so they could get everything out. I left on day 6.

Fo me it is a total lack of respect, I see it at the dunes and at the Lakes, Lake Powell is getting bad as well. ME ME ME attitude.

 

[Deckin Around]

Any after pics from the fire? I read it was a propane started fire not the solar but IDK. I watched a video of a truck using a tow strap to drag one of the solar panel trailers away from the flames. That one wasn't on fire and didnt look like it had any batteries on it just panels.

Most of those rigs are probably saving 800-1000 a month easy between storage fees + the gas to tow them out. If everything is insured and there is no enforcement, I get why they do it. It avoids the husband and wife both driving and towing separate trailers to get the whole family and toys there with a truck and place to sleep.

 

[Wizard29]

I showed up to Glamis on Christmas morning, there was a ghost camp right where we usually camp. I just pulled up and parked so close to them that they couldn't get into their trailers, I am over it. They showed up 5 days later, not a word was said, but I did enjoy watching them trying to hook up their stuff to move so they could get everything out. I left on day 6.

Fo me it is a total lack of respect, I see it at the dunes and at the Lakes, Lake Powell is getting bad as well. ME ME ME attitude.

I like it. If the BLM won't do anything about it, then the rest of us need to. Problem is you have to be ready for a fight, or for your stuff to be vandalized while you are out on a ride, or whatever else these dickwads will come up with to try and justify their actions.

 

[Icky]

Any after pics from the fire? I read it was a propane started fire not the solar but IDK. I watched a video of a truck using a tow strap to drag one of the solar panel trailers away from the flames. That one wasn't on fire and didnt look like it had any batteries on it just panels.

Most of those rigs are probably saving 800-1000 a month easy between storage fees + the gas to tow them out. If everything is insured and there is no enforcement, I get why they do it. It avoids the husband and wife both driving and towing separate trailers to get the whole family and toys there with a truck and place to sleep.

Glamis dunes storage is pretty cheap compared to most storage.

Rates – Glamis Dunes Storage

glamisdunesstorage.com

 

[DILLIGAF]

Sounds like a fuckin' nightmare....no thanks

 

[gqchris]

… i’ve always tried to find remote places to vacation…that other people don’t know about so consequently I’ve mostly never had to go through much of this stuff… This was one of the reasons reasons I had 100 acres to myself up above Lake Oroville for 21 years… But truthfully, no matter where you go… Something might happen on the negative with other people

I have friends that cannot be anywhere that is not occupied by thousands of other people. They want to camp on Hodge Road, they have to sit in the Channel in Havasu all day. Its very odd.

I know I am a hothead, so I just avoid these types of situations now a days.

 

[attitude]

I have friends that cannot be anywhere that is not occupied by thousands of other people. They want to camp on Hodge Road, they have to sit in the Channel in Havasu all day. Its very odd.

I know I am a hothead, so I just avoid these types of situations now a days.

I know someone just like this, and then they will complain about all the idiots.
The last thing I want to do on vacation is deal with crowds and stress about idiots.

P.S. fuck Hodge Rd, that is some of the worst riding in SoCal lol.

 

[TPC]

Wife and I have some nice secluded spots around the Southwest and never miss neighbors.

 

[Dunerking]

I know someone just like this, and then they will complain about all the idiots.
The last thing I want to do on vacation is deal with crowds and stress about idiots.

P.S. fuck Hodge Rd, that is some of the worst riding in SoCal lol.

X-2 on the crowds..I’m a bit of a crowd snob as it is. I work around hundreds of people daily while on set,this is why we live in Agua Dulce and try to do our camping/vacationing on off weekends. Sometimes with our HS son being involved in HS Lacrosse it dictates when we vacation.

 

[Justsomeguy]

I try to find my own beaches in needles, go where people get stuck in pismo, private land in ocotillo. I really make it a point to stay away from the fookery. Yet people pull up, on the beach full of kids(usually 3 or 4 boats rolling together), ride through our small blocked off camp, camp right next to us and light off fireworks all night. It is what it is.

I accept im not the only one into this hobby and I certainly made some bone head decisions in my years. If I didn't have the wife and kids I wouldn't care. But when the kids aren't safe or don't sleep, wife's not relaxing and if shes not relaxing she's stressing me out. If I'm stressed out I'm not having fun. If I'm not having fun I'm angry because it's my vacation time.

 

[lbhsbz]

You're been to Lake Havasu, yes?

Same shit, different place...

Don't go on a holiday weekend.

Don't hang out at the popular spots.

Keep your eye on the weather.

Same shit, different place.

It doesn't stop at Havasu....

Our park down on the lower river has the beach so carpet bombed with buoys that there's no place to put your boat....You can hook onto one that's there, but risk getting yelled at if that party decides to show up at some point that weekend. Find a spot to go and then when the party who left their shit there forever shows up they get bitchy because you're too close to them. The entitlement is a problem everywhere. I got tired of moving my anchor 3 times a day and dealing with fucktards so I just sold it all and don't plan on going back

 

[Willie B]

Regarding the solar trailers. A metric shit to of those hit the market over the past three years. Most of them were from some failed Obama project. They were mostly set up with two chinesium inverters, and lead acid batteries. Some were set up with light towers as well. The trailers themselves, panel mounting and such, were pretty good. Now, the ones that hit CL after the auctions, were a shit show. Some had parts missing, some had bad batteries...some had "new" batteries. There seemed to be a lot of variables, and not knowing who did what, or not fully understanding what the seller did, could be real bad. I was looking into one pretty heavily, and that's when I decided to amass parts to do it myself. At least that way it's my own fault if something goes wrong.

… When I built my solar system… I’m pretty sure all that was available was lead acid batteries..,. I used 10 Trojan 6 V T105’s in my system… They would last for I think about seven years…. I think I paid $1100 for the next set of batteries….Trace inverter charger and controller …Onan generator..,If I would’ve done something wrong in my system. I could’ve always blamed it on the engineer who was looking over my shoulder by cell phone…. Fortunately zero mistakes… A brilliant guy, Buehl Solar in Topanga Canyon….

 

[TPC]

Pismo Beach.
High tide is time 100% reliable, but you can not explain to some in your group that the distance the tide comes up on shore isn't reliable.
High Waterline can be 40 ft farther up the beach than the last high tide. But it's on time!

Those are the camps that try to panic relocate,, and often it doesn't end up well.

 

[77charger]

Pismo Beach.
High tide is time 100% reliable, but you can not explain to some in your group that the distance the tide comes up on shore isn't reliable.
High Waterline can be 40 ft farther up the beach than the last high tide. But it's on time!

Those are the camps that try to panic relocate,, and often it doesn't end up well.

Use to like to set up beachfront then wake up a couple of groups are set up blocking my nice view I had.

But at the time I knew ride charts pretty well knew how to read them to also plan arrival and departure. So next day when the tide came up I grabbed a chair with cooler along side and watched the camps get flooded out pretty good to where they decided to move.

We usually went once a year in summer not really to ride but to get cooler weather and take a lap at one point in buggy. When we go to glamis we have a very nice secluded spot and have been one of three camps that go up there and it’s the same groups we all respect each other’s sleep too lol so it’s great. We have to go 3/4 mile off the road across soft sand slight uphill the whole way but at night it’s so worth it.

 

[Hardly Satisfied]

Those older Weekend Warrior wood frames go up like matchsticks

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Yes they do

 

[Gelcoater]

a year in summer not really to ride but to get cooler weather and take a lap at one point

We’ve done this a couple times.
Mostly to escape the heat and go camping, with a side bonus of riding... if we want to.
Just bring WD-40 to wash everything down in the afternoon.
The salt reveals any raw metal overnight.

Still gets crazy some times, especially during the Portuguese invasion in late summer.

 

[Justsomeguy]

We’ve done this a couple times.
Mostly to escape the heat and go camping, with a side bonus of riding... if we want to.
Just bring WD-40 to wash everything down in the afternoon.
The salt reveals any raw metal overnight.

Still gets crazy some times, especially during the Portuguese invasion in late summer.

Festival of st. Anthony. I will be there this year for that. My daughter is in the parade. The second or third weekend of August. Always forget which. Been doing that since I was a kid. Been a few years since I've gone though.

 

[DoughBallin14]

Another aftermath video

Jonathan Nu on Instagram: "Part 2 of the fire today. Sadly the aftermath didn't leave much of anything. Wishing these people positive energy! #fire #glamis #offroaddiaries"

1,897 likes, 88 comments - jonnutriple7 on February 13, 2025: "Part 2 of the fire today. Sadly the aftermath didn't leave much of anything. Wishing these people positive energy! #fire #glamis #offroaddiaries".

www.instagram.com

 

[riverroyal]

To think the whole idea started with a plastic chair and an easy-up left on a beach

We do call havasu glamis north now. So your pretty accurate

 

[shockwave714]

Wash six

 

[rivermobster]

It doesn't stop at Havasu....

Our park down on the lower river has the beach so carpet bombed with buoys that there's no place to put your boat....You can hook onto one that's there, but risk getting yelled at if that party decides to show up at some point that weekend. Find a spot to go and then when the party who left their shit there forever shows up they get bitchy because you're too close to them. The entitlement is a problem everywhere. I got tired of moving my anchor 3 times a day and dealing with fucktards so I just sold it all and don't plan on going back

I think you spelled Big Bend wrong?

 

[shockwave714]

6

 

[NicPaus]

Did the rig and stacker behind it burn also?

 

[monkeyswrench]

How does this work with insurance? If they are unattended, but out in a "camping" area, does it get weird if they were plugged into the solar generator if they also owned that as well?