FUGGY DUCK GOES TO MEAD....

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THE GOOD, THE BADD AND THE FUGGY...

 

[RiverDave]

That boat doesn't look that bad to me Steve.. LOL I don't know why you keep calling it Fuggy / Fugly etc.

RD

 

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FIRST THE GOOD,.. towed it with the "COOL RIG" rv, towed to mead and back with no problem.. when we got to mead,.. started right up, no water or oil leaks... motor ran bitch'n

 

[2FORCEFULL]

That boat doesn't look that bad to me Steve.. LOL I don't know why you keep calling it Fuggy / Fugly etc.

RD

it's definitely growing on me,... got lots of compliments today..

 

[Runs2rch]

You just need some yellow or purple trunks to go with the boat!

 

[Keymyster]

You just need some yellow or purple trunks to go with the boat!

Go get a pair of fugyl trunks. Hallett will look a lot better for sure. I like it.

 

[Angler]

I'll give you $10K for that ugly boat. Let me know.

 

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now the badd... I knew this going in though,... I've owned lots of halletts and they all like to kite off the rollers, and you have to mess with them to get them to run on the keel..the biggest problem today was the prop... they used to like to put the hydro props on everything back in the 90's... well this boat has a hydro IV 24p four blade... does everything wrong all at once...there is a balance to propping a boat right... and the end result is you want the boat to fly level and lift to run on the keel level... so you need the right balance of transom lift, and bow lift... the 210 did pretty much like ever 210 I've owned when I got it.. hopped across the lake and slammed rollers hard..anything above 50 mph and she was a hand full... had to run those big tabs buried to keep from getting sea sick, that and she didn't like much trim at all...so I have a few props to try out.... and need some more transom hardware....gonna take a trip or two to mead before shes a ghost rider...

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Go get a pair of fugyl trunks. Hallett will look a lot better for sure. I like it.

whats wrong with the orange ones???? none of the colors on the boat go together!

 

[Keymyster]

Orange ones are fine. Just want everyone to look at your fugly trunks to get them away from ur boat.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I'll give you $10K for that ugly boat. Let me know.

thanks so much for the offer, but, even though it the highest offer, well, the only offer, I decided that I will never find as nice of a hallett 210 as this one, so I'm keeping it...I don't like the colors,.. but starting to find them to be ok...that and 100k for a new one.. I'm only in this one 30k, and she's well kept and pretty much like new.... just got back from so-cal picking up the 2 sets of solid black winshields for my son and my 210's, got them from primo... super guy to deal with...thanks 240... and I don't like the flipped up part at the top of the windshield either

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Orange ones are fine. Just want everyone to look at your fugly trunks to get them away from ur boat.

how bout the seat towels????

 

[Carlson-jet]

The little bit of pink gel just says "I'm a man comfortable in my shoes"
Boat looks good.

 

[Ouderkirk]

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The purple is not a choice I would have made and the rest of it is a little busy, but it's not the worst thing either.

For what you paid for it and the condition it's in.... I would let the colors ride with no regrets, and no remorse.

 

[ElAzul]

That Hallet isn't fugly to me. It's not mind blowin DCB n whatnot but I think it looks pretty ok. She's the girl next door that will treat you right and is a 7 out of 10. Nobody likes supermodel maintenance anyways

 

[2FORCEFULL]

One of the first things I need to do Is the transom plate,... this is the most improvement to all my previous halletts..really soften up the ride and keeps the kiting and slaming from happening..gives the bow a chance to go to work... as it is now,.. it takes all the hits in the mid section...no Bueno

 

[2FORCEFULL]

The purple is not a choice I would have made and the rest of it is a little busy, but it's not the worst thing either.

For what you paid for it and the condition it's in.... I would let the colors ride with no regrets, and no remorse.

that's where i'm at...I've had it out there that I would buy a nicer one, and sell this one... but 210's are hard to come by... and I would have to see a better than I got,.. we love the 210 for mead and had a great day today,.. whipping down at the ramp was a breeze...so any ways,... i'm gonna dump some more coin in it and keep her..

 

[2FORCEFULL]

so as it is right now, there's 6 prop choices I've got on hand...

 

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The first, and probley the last to try if I ever do is a 26p hydromotive... don't see it working, but some day if I'm board...see what it does

 

[redone76]

One of the first things I need to do Is the transom plate,... this is the most improvement to all my previous halletts..really soften up the ride and keeps the kiting and slaming from happening..gives the bow a chance to go to work... as it is now,.. it takes all the hits in the mid section...no Bueno

Would this be the world famous 2Forceful whamo plate? That boat is beautiful and I’m looking forward to your tweaks to make it perfect!


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Would this be the world famous 2Forceful whamo plate? That boat is beautiful and I’m looking forward to your tweaks to make it perfect!


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yes sir...unbelievable results... in fact,... no one believes it....lol..but they always wonder why my 210 is fly'n flat and smooth,... and their 270 is getting hammered

 

[stevesdcb]

Having a 210, I'm a bit biased. Those colors would not be my first choice but your boat is far from ugly. I like the way the purple popped in the sun next to the yellow.

My engine was a re-do this winter going from a 454 to a stroked 496, pretty much a Mercury Marine 500hp copy minus a few cubes. We are very similar in hp/ Bravo set up. Motor & new external steering are scheduled for next month & then time to re-prop.

I'm all in on your thread.

 

[Melloyellovector]

Got to admit your orig Re-used pics didn’t do that 210 any justice.
It looks way better on the water and not shot w a 80s Polaroid

 

[2FORCEFULL]

2nd prop,... and probley know the results... a bravo rev 4...23p... couple problems...one.... no defuser-ring...and #2 too small of pitch.... so this one will go with the some day when i'm board and nothing better to do...

Got to admit your orig Re-used pics didn’t do that 210 any justice.
It looks way better on the water and not shot w a 80s Polaroid

Having a 210, I'm a bit biased. Those colors would not be my first choice but your boat is far from ugly. I like the way the purple popped in the sun next to the yellow.

My engine was a re-do this winter going from a 454 to a stroked 496, pretty much a Mercury Marine 500hp copy minus a few cubes. We are very similar in hp/ Bravo set up. Motor & new external steering are scheduled for next month & then time to re-prop.

I'm all in on your thread.

if you are in vegas hit me up, hopefully I'll have the transom plate on it and you can drive it..

 

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Got to admit your orig Re-used pics didn’t do that 210 any justice.
It looks way better on the water and not shot w a 80s Polaroid

polaroids...lol... I have some that would get me banned before the ink dries... only proof I have that my penis used to stand straight up...

 

[stevesdcb]

2nd prop,... and probley know the results... a bravo rev 4...23p... couple problems...one.... no defuser-ring...and #2 too small of pitch.... so this one will go with the some day when i'm board and nothing better to do...
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if you are in vegas hit me up, hopefully I'll have the transom plate on it and you can drive it..

Much appreciated...N. Cal....going to try and make Hallett regatta in September

 

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3rd prop...and another one of those that I know won't work... but interesting... I had ron hill custom make this prop... , it's a 23p 5 blade.. 14.5 diameter ... I think I had this built for sues first deck boat with the 496 ho... and I have no idea what it would really work on,... but would bet it would be a badd ass prop on a magic deck with a 496 ho..could be a great prop for cut and jump skiing or ???? so if anyone wants to try it... hit me up and we will..

 

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Much appreciated...N. Cal....going to try and make Hallett regatta in September

what if anything are you doing to the transom???it has been told to me that nothing needs to be done with much anger.... but if you look at the fast badd ass halletts, they have more money in transom hardware than it cost to lay up the hull..

 

[hallett21]

I know you’ve done it on a lot of boats but I still don’t get how the wamo plate does anything tabs don’t. Either way love the threads of you tinkering with stuff.


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4th prop... here's a prop with a lot of good history, and use to be the go to prop for me when I use to run deep V Baja's.. the mach 1 four blade.... the cool thing about these is the 14.5 diameter ... lets you go up in pitch instead of down... and with good driving skills, you could squeeze an extra 3 or 4 mph out of the boat... the one I have is a 26 pitch...the fat blades bite real good and gives a great hole shot, and also they have a defuser ring... again... I think it's a benefit to the 210

 

[mjc]

3rd prop...and another one of those that I know won't work... but interesting... I had ron hill custom make this prop... , it's a 23p 5 blade.. 14.5 diameter ... I think I had this built for sues first deck boat with the 496 ho... and I have no idea what it would really work on,... but would bet it would be a badd ass prop on a magic deck with a 496 ho..could be a great prop for cut and jump skiing or ???? so if anyone wants to try it... hit me up and we will..


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It might be great for my magic. I switch between a 22 and 24 now. If you have it in havasu sometime i would like to try it.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

I know you’ve done it on a lot of boats but I still don’t get how the wamo plate does anything tabs don’t. Either way love the threads of you tinkering with stuff.


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well... here's an easy way to understand how it works... amagine if you had a cav plate on the back of the boat, and it's working great...then you took 6' out of the middle... the only time the cav plate would work is when the boat was going slow right?? the wamo, center plate works when the boat is aired out and noT much help from the tabs... so to compensate for the lack of usefulness, you have to tab down more and keep getting longer tabs...I've never seen a schiada with 4' long cav plates,.. and you can get your self into big problems with full cav plates and down pedals..

 

[2FORCEFULL]

The little bit of pink gel just says "I'm a man comfortable in my shoes"
Boat looks good.

and the same amount of gel will cover it up...lol

 

[2FORCEFULL]

It might be great for my magic. I switch between a 22 and 24 now. If you have it in havasu sometime i would like to try it.

is yours a deck boat?

 

[mjc]

is yours a deck boat?

Yes with 496 ho

 

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5th prop,here's one that I think will work good, it's a labbed 26p bravo 1 4 blade... but... I don't like labbed props, and would never buy one, but I have it so we'll see what it does..

 

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prop #6... this is the prop I would buy If I needed to start from scratch, my son has a hallett 210 with a carbed 454,.. he spins a 24p bravo...it's a 26p ron hill signature.... I've had nothing but luck with these props and of every test they out performed the bravos...

 

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prop # 7, this is a new in the box never opened bravo 1 28p four blade... I don't think I have the motor for it... and if I do the aluminum head swap...probley need more prop... and gonna need more hardware than a f'n wamo plate on the transom....lol... it never ends till you quit...

 

[UltraLucky]

Your description of the 210 handling out of the box is spot on. I have been going thru a similar process trying to calm the boat down over 70 and not slaming the bow on the occasional roller. Mine did not like the Bravo 1 26p at all too much transom lift. Been playing with 3 blade Mirage props, I am picking up a cutting edge 4 blade to try next week. Looking forward to your results




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now the badd... I knew this going in though,... I've owned lots of halletts and they all like to kite off the rollers, and you have to mess with them to get them to run on the keel..the biggest problem today was the prop... they used to like to put the hydro props on everything back in the 90's... well this boat has a hydro IV 24p four blade... does everything wrong all at once...there is a balance to propping a boat right... and the end result is you want the boat to fly level and lift to run on the keel level... so you need the right balance of transom lift, and bow lift... the 210 did pretty much like ever 210 I've owned when I got it.. hopped across the lake and slammed rollers hard..anything above 50 mph and she was a hand full... had to run those big tabs buried to keep from getting sea sick, that and she didn't like much trim at all...so I have a few props to try out.... and need some more transom hardware....gonna take a trip or two to mead before shes a ghost rider...


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[redone76]

yes sir...unbelievable results... in fact,... no one believes it....lol..but they always wonder why my 210 is fly'n flat and smooth,... and their 270 is getting hammered

Where does one pickup said whamo plate?


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[Hullbilly]

it's definitely growing on me,... got lots of compliments today..

Yeah, I dig it...Slightly retro, I wouldnt mess with the colors!

 

[DeltaSigBoater]

Where does one pickup said whamo plate?


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Considering they haven't been produced since the early '80s: eBay, Craigslits, Old Boats, Junk Yards.

 

[stevesdcb]

what if anything are you doing to the transom???it has been told to me that nothing needs to be done with much anger.... but if you look at the fast badd ass halletts, they have more money in transom hardware than it cost to lay up the hull..

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Nothing other than steering assist which I think you already have. I did put in a new steering cable & new style steering box at the helm. Last I remember Trickle didn't do anything to transom. Ultra Lucky would be another good resource to check with. I think both Trickle & UL are around 625hp. What are you thinking?

 

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Your description of the 210 handling out of the box is spot on. I have been going thru a similar process trying to calm the boat down over 70 and not slaming the bow on the occasional roller. Mine did not like the Bravo 1 26p at all too much transom lift. Been playing with 3 blade Mirage props, I am picking up a cutting edge 4 blade to try next week. Looking forward to your results




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what do you have for power???

 

[UltraLucky]

what do you have for power???[/QUOTE]

600+/- at the crank.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

Your description of the 210 handling out of the box is spot on. I have been going thru a similar process trying to calm the boat down over 70 and not slaming the bow on the occasional roller. Mine did not like the Bravo 1 26p at all too much transom lift. Been playing with 3 blade Mirage props, I am picking up a cutting edge 4 blade to try next week. Looking forward to your results




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here's what ive found,...the 210 is way out of balance, and with the big block weight.. very transom heavy...the next thing is the re entry on the bow... it's just not a wave buster like schiada... so if the boat gets too far off keel.. it'll kite, next thing that happens is when it lands... it's always transom first and it buries deep putting the keel even farther off and with the 21 degree bottom it like to pick a side so it starts the side to side deal..I also found that it's easier to settle down the open bow boats, and it's my belief that they are more balanced...I don't know a lot about the ski race boats, and often wondered if the have ballast weight in the front... I do know this.....70 mph was the scary number for me on multiple halletts ... but tamed way down with a center transom plate....maybe the real fix would be a notched transom.... that's a question for thane....

 

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what do you have for power???

600+/- at the crank.[/QUOTE]
WOOO HOOO...nice...what
what do you have for power???[/QUOTE]
if you see any of my props you wanna try, hit me up

 

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what do you have for power???

600+/- at the crank.[/QUOTE]
another thing, my 240 open bow didn't like a defuser ring at all....boat was scary when I got it..what about cutting off the defuser ring on the 26p?

 

[stevesdcb]

Trickle & UL are both running the Dana tabs. Don't want to speak for Trickle but he has said the boat handles a lot better with the big tabs, I think Dana 1000

 

[UltraLucky]

here's what ive found,...the 210 is way out of balance, and with the big block weight.. very transom heavy...the next thing is the re entry on the bow... it's just not a wave buster like schiada... so if the boat gets too far off keel.. it'll kite, next thing that happens is when it lands... it's always transom first and it buries deep putting the keel even farther off and with the 21 degree bottom it like to pick a side so it starts the side to side deal..I also found that it's easier to settle down the open bow boats, and it's my belief that they are more balanced...I don't know a lot about the ski race boats, and often wondered if the have ballast weight in the front... I do know this.....70 mph was the scary number for me on multiple halletts ... but tamed way down with a center transom plate....maybe the real fix would be a notched transom.... that's a question for thane....[/QUOTE]

All the ski race boats I have seen have the drive extension box which helps with the balance issue you are describing, and lots of plate. I have added 12” Dana’s and will probably change the plates to the next size up. The biggest help I have seen is using the 2” shorter drive. Didn’t see a significant speed increase but it did help the handling. Still haven’t found the right prop.