Fuck Texas!

[Shlbyntro]

I personally know of several instances where birth control failed. The mom didn't even realize until about that 4 week mark. Cutting it close....

I am personally pro choice up unto "awareness" and I don't support this law, but ill be damned if I let any of you California my Texas! Yall need to realize that Texas is part of the Bible belt. I am not religious but I knew what I was getting when I moved here.





They are adorable kids btw.

 

[Paradox]

I have a 37 year old Daughter that developed at a party one night with a woman (really a girl) I barely knew. I was 22 or so. Her Mom initially wanted to have an abortion which I agreed to fund.

She changed her mind and I now have a Daughter and 3 grandkids, one of which is graduating from High School this year.

Although I have zero relationship with the Mom (even though I met 100% of my obligations), I love my Daughter and her entire family. I am so grateful that it worked out the way it did.

 

[Drew]

I have a friend who's daughter was raped by three black guys walking to her car after school.

He was never the same. Neither was his daughter. It was awful to have to watch.

Why wouldn’t you help her. Can’t believe you just sat back and watched.... I’m kidding and I’m sorry I’m a dick

 

[Looking Glass]

Indeed..

@rivermobster posts per day - 9.98

@Looking Glass posts per day - 16.25

Your Math is about as Lame as your New Off Road Vehicle Investments. $10,000.00 and Counting Don't go spending those $'s quite Yet.

 

[EmpirE231]

Forget the act for a moment...

Think about the fact that these people are ultimately trying to remove your freedom to choose your own fate.

I'm not a supporter of that concept.

I’d say they’re more so trying to stop people from killing babies as a form of contraceptive.

I think it’s wrong... but that’s between you and god. Govt shouldn’t be involved in it, and neither should tax dollars.

 

[rivermobster]

People are taking decisions away from you every day with every law.

People can personally sue me for not abiding by laws and regulations. How is this different than anything else in life?

What decision are they taking away? They have only taken away time to make the decision. There aren’t too many rape victims walking around 12 weeks pregnant...

All good points.

And yet I'm still not a fan of this process.

Much less adding to the laws on the books.

 

[WhatExit?]

Hey, is this the dungeon? The subject has been discussed down there since the other day.

PS: Abortion is murder. How do I know? I am here

 

[DRYHEAT]

I have a friend who's daughter was raped by three black guys walking to her car after school.

He was never the same. Neither was his daughter. It was awful to have to watch.

And the sad part is these animals are still probably walking around fine and dandy. I would have absolutely no problem having all three killed and call it an ultra late term post birth abortion.

sorry but it infuriates me to think about the amount of money we spend incarcerating worthless human beings that will never rehabilitate.

 

[Shlbyntro]

Also, Planned Parenthood is a major contributor of the Democratic Party. Dont think for an instant that this move wasn't at least partially politically motivated and a move towards declawing the dems.

 

[CLdrinker]

Rivermobster I’m sorry about your friend that’s is disgusting.
But do you think this bill will affect more women who have been raped?
Or
Hoe’s that can’t keep their fucking legs closed and have multiple abortions?

serious question.

 

[rivermobster]

Yet you advocate for the murder of a baby who would undoubtedly choose life vs being cut apart and vacuumed out (while feeling every bit of it), or scalded to death etc.

I have a very personal reason for my beliefs and very few people know..well until now...but I can guarangoddamntee you that If this law was in effect years ago I would have sued the shit out of someone for murdering my child without my knowledge. Something she deeply regretted afterwards..led to our end and I hate her to this day for it. I can assure you it will fuck your mind up for life. Until you've been there shut the fuck up.

Sorry you were put in this situation. That obviously marked you for life.

But again...

This (to me) is not as much about abortion, as it is about people trying to control someone Else's life!

I really don't think we need anymore laws than we have.

Peace.

 

[rivermobster]

Rivermobster I’m sorry about your friend that’s is disgusting.
But do you think this bill will affect more women who have been raped?
Or
Hoe’s that can’t keep their fucking legs closed and have multiple abortions?

serious question.

I honestly don't know. There are an awful lot of sick fucks (rapists) out there.

Again, the issue to me is not abortion, it's about trying mandating what people can or can't do.

 

[Ace in the Hole]

Sorry you were put in this situation. That obviously marked you for life.

But again...

This (to me) is not as much about abortion, as it is about people trying to control someone Else's life!

I really don't think we need anymore laws than we have.

Peace.

Yes it did...in a lot of ways. It's not controlling someones life....its preventing 860K MURDERS a year. I'm going to bow out of this one...obviously it hits home. But to reiterate....if you don't like our laws...don't come to texas. We're full.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

All good points.

And yet I'm still not a fan of this process.

Much less adding to the laws on the books.

To that end I agree, not a huge fan either, but every state has stupid laws.

This is for another thread but like it or not we are in a post morality society, and if certain subsets don’t procreate, it is fine with me.

 

[Classic Daycruiser]

There’s a reason land is cheap in Texas.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Your Math is about as Lame as your New Off Road Vehicle Investments. $10,000.00 and Counting Don't go spending those $'s quite Yet.

Its not my math, you are the one with the 16+ posts per day average trying to lecture others about posting too much..

FWIW even I am at 14 posts per day .

 

[Looking Glass]

Its not my math, you are the one with the 16 posts per day average trying to lecture others about posting too much..
[/QUOTE

Well, I guess you are the only one counting and keeping Score.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Well, I guess you are the only one counting and keeping Score.

No, it looks like you’ve been keeping score all along..

Talk about opening
"A Can Of Worms" it is bound to happen when you post dozens of threads every day of the week.

 

[rivermobster]

To that end I agree, not a huge fan either, but every state has stupid laws.

This is for another thread but like it or not we are in a post morality society, and if certain subsets don’t procreate, it is fine with me.

It's truly what I wanted this thread to be about...

Too bad the abortion topic killed the concept.

Apparently people feel more stronger about abortion, than they do about new somewhat ridiculous laws on the books.

 

[CLdrinker]

I honestly don't know. There are an awful lot of sick fucks (rapists) out there.

Again, the issue to me is not abortion, it's about trying mandating what people can or can't do.

I don’t like people being told what to do either. I don’t like abortions but understand there are times when they are necessary as well.
It is a slippery slop for sure.

 

[Looking Glass]

No, it looks like you were keeping score..

Word on the Street, if you want a SpeedCar, you are the one who has the Market Cornered. Quite the savvy investor.

 

[Bobby V]

Yes it did...in a lot of ways. It's not controlling someones life....its preventing 860K MURDERS a year. I'm going to bow out of this one...obviously it hits home. But to reiterate....if you don't like our laws...don't come to texas. We're full.

I thought you posted you were leaving Texas…lol

 

[Ace in the Hole]

I thought you posted you were leaving Texas…lol

Up in the air at the moment...if we don't "have to" we won't... Down the road we will move to MT though...we already own the land.

 

[rivermobster]

I'm not a huge fan of abortion.

I am a huge fan of being able to make my own decisions.

Truth be told, if someone is dealing with an unwanted pregnancy, I'd rather see them have it, than abort it.

But...

What if the pregnancy goes bad for the mom? What if she dies giving birth?

Who the fuck am I to try and force someone to do what I think is right???

So ultimately my feeling is...

Fuck anyone that tries to make my most Personal decisions for me. Regulardless of what it's about.

 

[Danger Dave]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1433848993226821643

 

[530RL]

Forcing someone to wear a mask is an undue burden on ones freedom.

Forcing a rape or incest victim to carry a child to term is not a burden on ones freedom?

This objectively seems to be a law written by those who are pro birth but not pro life. For if it they were pro life they would have provided for the raising and welfare of children from someone who is the product of rape or incest.

Or if six weeks was adequate time to discover and get an abortion after rape or incest, assuming any abortion procedure is still available, there doesn’t seem to be any health funding for that specific group to discover the pregnancy or pay for the abortion?

But they didn’t. It is up to the rape victim to discover the possible pregnancy and arrange for abortion or raise and provide for such child to term and then adult hood. Sounds pro birth and not pro life to me while excluding the welfare of the mother or child from rape or incest. No chance that kid will not turn out to be perfect? What better nuclear family environment than for a child from rape or incest?

In any event abortion will remain available in other states as well as Mexico. I would imagine those who support this law would support other states who keep abortion for rape and incest victims available.

After all States rights and all being important.

 

[Kachina26]

I'm good with abortions up to 18 years after birth.

 

[jet496]

All I know is I 'm sure glad me or my wife weren't aborted. My kids & grand kids wouldn't exist either. Touchy subject for sure.

 

[FCT]

Go to the bar anywhere in TX and say Fuck Texas and let me know how that goes for you.

 

[Hoodoo]

Pretty sure from a morality standpoint, the word heartbeat trumps everything.

 

[clarence]

Go anywhere in TX and say Fuck Texas and let me know how that goes for you.

Pretty sure from a morality standpoint, ensoulment trumps everything.

Corrected.

 

[t&y]

Interesting discussion.

Every Rape victim I've dealt with (in California) was given a ton of information on the day after pill and other measures to ensure they do not get pregnant. It's not a mystery to them and they have options available. If you read more than one article on this specific topic coming out of Texas you would also see a couple different things. 6 weeks is not a hard date, it is based on or about the time a heart beat can be detected. There are also exceptions to rape and incest victims from what I have read... Sorry to burst some of your bubbles in here.

I am far from a abortion expert so I'll leave this mess to the rest of you.

 

[RCDave]

Theses a world of difference between an adult deciding to take the c19 jab and murder. Last time I checked murder was a serious crime...

 

[t&y]

Theses a world of difference between an adult deciding to take the c19 jab and murder. Last time I checked murder was a serious crime...

Murder is only a serious a crime if you are a White Trump Supporter. All others will be looked at as oppressed individuals just expressing their emotions in an outwardly fashion.

 

[Universal Elements]

Go to the bar anywhere in TX and say Fuck Texas and let me know how that goes for you.

Now, that would be hilarious

 

[Shlbyntro]

Theses a world of difference between an adult deciding to take the c19 jab and murder. Last time I checked murder was a serious crime...

So serious that they'll pay you $300/mo not to do it

 

[RCDave]

So serious that they'll pay you $300/mo not to do it

Where do I sign up. I can pretend to be gendered for 300 bucks! California is total insanity

 

[94Nautique]

Forget the act for a moment...

Think about the fact that these people are ultimately trying to remove your freedom to choose your own fate.

I'm not a supporter of that concept.

Men seek to protect the unprotected. In this case the unprotected are the babies in the womb. Killing a baby in the womb removes THEIR fate. 56,000 abortions a year would indicate either a rape culture or an abortion-as-birth control culture. Neither is good.

 

[SNiC Jet]

Forcing a rape or incest victim to carry a child to term is not a burden on ones freedom?
.....there doesn’t seem to be any health funding for that specific group to discover the pregnancy or pay for the abortion?

This is BIG PILE of misinformation and you know it!
As I pointed out to you in another thread (below) .....and besides, the "morning after pill", is SOP in cases of Rape and incest and only cost about ten bucks

Do you honestly believe it takes more than 6 weeks for a female to know if she was rapped or a victim of incest? In these situations, surely the victim would get screened ASAP......besides, it is common practice to take the "morning after" pill in these situations....and if not,
As soon as the fertilized egg implants into the uterine wall, the hCG pregnancy hormone is produced. This means a high-quality pregnancy test could detect a pregnancy in as little as five days after conception.

and FWIW, as a general rule, Conservatives do not advocate for the killing of unborn children....and surly do not agree and support the government funding of these acts.......but yet here you are, Mr Ultra Conservative promoting both

 

[Sandlord]

If your State has a law that you just can’t live with, you are free to move to another State.
Look how many people and businesses are leaving California and moving to Texas.

 

[rivermobster]

Looks like LOF is the only poster that gets what this thread is about.

Hint: Its not about abortion.

But clearly he is right with his observations. Same shit, different day. Nothing new to see here. Just another day!

 

[t&y]

Looks like LOF is the only poster that gets what this thread is about.

Hint: Its not about abortion.

But clearly he is right with his observations. Same shit, different day. Nothing new to see here. Just another day!

Well, you are the messenger. You didn't state in your opening... "Hey guys, this is not about abortion, it is about an individuals rights"

 

[Sandlord]

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Let Texas be Texas.

 

[FishSniper]

I’m indifferent on the Texas law however I find it comical these liberals are out protesting “ my body my choice etc” but are the same clowns trying to force the vaccine. Cant have it both ways so which is it ?

 

[snowhammer]

If its not about abortion, could you clarify what it is about?

If six weeks is not enough time to end a life, how much time is needed and how old is too old?

Are we not going after the rapist? Where do his rights end?

I obviously disagree with your premise but truly cannot grasp how you get there or can set a timeline on age of where it goes from choice of one to a crime committed.

 

[hallett21]

Kind of ironic that most here believe that gun control/laws do nothing to stop criminals. But believe making a law against abortion will somehow change people.

Just like any law the citizens with financial means will find work arounds. This will only effect the poor and I’m sure in a negative way.

Government can stay out of my home and my family.


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[WhatExit?]

I honestly don't know. There are an awful lot of sick fucks (rapists) out there.

Again, the issue to me is not abortion, it's about trying mandating what people can or can't do.

When you focus on "mandating what people can or can't do" does that apply to murder? There are thousands of laws on the books "mandating what people can or can't do" - which of those laws are you in favor of?

Talking about "mandating what people can or can't do" is a good discussion until it becomes a discussion of how many months into a fetus' life and growth is it OK to kill it?

Many pro-abortionists believe it's OK to kill a fetus any time before birth. If you look at the fetus pic (below) - 1st trimester, how can anyone say that's OK to kill?




To pro-choicers: So this your position (below), right?

 

[rivermobster]

If its not about abortion, could you clarify what it is about?

If six weeks is not enough time to end a life, how much time is needed and how old is too old?

Are we not going after the rapist? Where do his rights end?

I obviously disagree with your premise but truly cannot grasp how you get there or can set a timeline on age of where it goes from choice of one to a crime committed.

Ive it stated a number of times in this thread already. Read the article I posed, and let us know how you feel about it.

Oh and check this out now!


Texas citizens can be awarded up to $10,000 for every successful lawsuit and have their legal fees covered, Insider previously reported.

While the ban has exceptions to allow abortions in the case of medical emergencies, it contains no exceptions for instances of rape or incest.

"Uber, Lyft to Pay Legal Fees of Drivers Sued Under Texas' Abortion Ban" https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-lyft-legal-fees-of-drivers-texas-abortion-ban-2021-9

 

[snowhammer]

Ive it stated a number of times in this thread already. Read the article I posed, and let us know how you feel about it.

Oh and check this out now!


Texas citizens can be awarded up to $10,000 for every successful lawsuit and have their legal fees covered, Insider previously reported.

While the ban has exceptions to allow abortions in the case of medical emergencies, it contains no exceptions for instances of rape or incest.

"Uber, Lyft to Pay Legal Fees of Drivers Sued Under Texas' Abortion Ban" https://www.businessinsider.com/uber-lyft-legal-fees-of-drivers-texas-abortion-ban-2021-9

As I read it, accomplices are being financially rewarded. Again, does the same apply for an accomplice in other crimes?

Repeating my previous question, at what age does it go from a procedure to murder?

 

[rivermobster]

As I read it, accomplices are being financially rewarded. Again, does the same apply for an accomplice in other crimes?

Repeating my previous question, at what age does it go from a procedure to murder?

No idea.

No idea on that second question either.

My question to you is...

How do you feel about laws that control your most person decision? Are you ok with being told what to do in that situation? Are you ok with your neighbor being financially rewarded for turning you in for the most personal decision you'll ever have to make?

Pretty sure we all think it's ok to rat out the crack dealer living next door to you. It affects you and your property values.

But do we really want to rat out people who are doing something that has zero affect on you?

Personal decisions are just that. The guberment should Not be involved.

That's my feeling anyway.