The M2‘s I’ve seen have bayonet bushings that are not nearly large enough to hold the sway on a truck. They get blown out super fast. Freightliner has a kit to replace them but it’s pretty expensive. I think the bayonet style was through like 2019?
That's more of a light duty setup. The ones I am more familiar with are more of a tie bar beneath and between the leaf packs. I can see where that setup would self-destruct.
There you go again pulling at our heart strings.... and that wife of yours ... Geez, did they break the mold or what.Wife and I were talking today. I mentioneded off hand I was looking at freightliners and she said, that’s funny I was just mentioning to (our son) I’d like an F650 instead of an Escalade. (gotta love that one).
Anyway, which one and why?
I like the freightliners for long distance towing with the air ride seats and what not. Next couple years we plan on getting out and towing to loto, Idaho, shit, maybe even Florida. But kinda a pain to go to the store in it. I realize an F650 isn’t ideal for driving around town but it’s not really THAT much bigger than a full size dually lifted on 22/24’s. Although the ride is shit from what I’m told. I’ve never owned a tow vehicle without 4WD. You can find both in 4wd but a little more scarce. Although do I really need 4WD?
f650 seems more like a toy (which I’m good with lol) sportchasis seems to be the grown up ride. Anyway, what’s says the masses? This would be a used purchase. I don’t take the 25-30% hit on buying new vehicles.
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Wife and I were talking today. I mentioneded off hand I was looking at freightliners and she said, that’s funny I was just mentioning to (our son) I’d like an F650 instead of an Escalade. (
Anyway, which one and why?
I like the freightliners for long distance towing with the air ride seats and what not. Next couple years we plan on getting out and towing to loto, Idaho, shit, maybe even Florida. But kinda a pain to go to the store in it. I realize an F650 isn’t ideal for driving around town but it’s not really THAT much bigger than a full size dually lifted on 22/24’s. Although the ride is shit from what I’m told. I’ve never owned a tow vehicle without 4WD. You can find both in 4wd but a little more scarce. Although do I really need 4WD?
f650 seems more like a toy (which I’m good with lol) sportchasis seems to be the grown up ride. Anyway, what’s says the masses? This would be a used purchase. I don’t take the 25-30% hit on buying new vehicles.
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Probably heading to Clinton Ok. That's where they are finished.
had many a good time in that truck when the previous owner had it.
Thanks for the input. That thing is sick. Exactly what I’d want. You ready to sell?The F650s have an amazing turn radius. It’s the exact same length and width as a 350 dually, just taller. But surprisingly easy to whip around a parking lot. I have an 07 with the Cat C7 and Allison 3000 trans, Kelderman air ride front, air brakes. Turns heads everywhere, people take pictures with it every time you stop. It gets ~11mpg but holds 214 gallons so it’s a great road trip vehicle. MPG doesn’t change if you’re towing or not lol
Was talking to a Sportchassis guy at a truck stop once and he said he gets 8mpg and only holds 80-something gallons..? But they have air ride seats and cab which mine doesn’t. Yeah the 650s aren’t super fun on torn up surface streets, but on the highway its super smooth and comfortable.
(My 5yo for size comparison lol)
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The only thing I’ve ever towed was my 27 Advantage. You know the saying “it tows like there’s nothing back there”..? Yeah I legit didn’t feel or see it back there…I almost hit shit with the boat cuz I forgot lol. Never an issue with 2wd, actually now that I remember, I would put it in drive and take my foot off the brake and it would just walk right up the ramp with the boat, didn’t even touch the gas.Thanks for the input. That thing is sick. Exactly what I’d want. You ready to sell?
What do you tow and have you ever wished you had 4WD?
Also, what’s the insurance like?
Thats funny, our 650's at work have factory air ride seats, they have an electric air pump.The F650s have an amazing turn radius. It’s the exact same length and width as a 350 dually, just taller. But surprisingly easy to whip around a parking lot. I have an 07 with the Cat C7 and Allison 3000 trans, Kelderman air ride front, air brakes. Turns heads everywhere, people take pictures with it every time you stop. It gets ~11mpg but holds 214 gallons so it’s a great road trip vehicle. MPG doesn’t change if you’re towing or not lol
Was talking to a Sportchassis guy at a truck stop once and he said he gets 8mpg and only holds 80-something gallons..? But they have air ride seats and cab which mine doesn’t. Yeah the 650s aren’t super fun on torn up surface streets, but on the highway its super smooth and comfortable.
(My 5yo for size comparison lol)
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Yeah Supertrucks buys them as stripped down cab and chassis knowing they’re going to take it down to the bare cab and do full custom interior and everything. There’s some that have the Frightliner-style lazy boy air ride seats which I’m envious of lol.
I work for the City of LA, they don't spend that kind of money
go with the SC over the 650. Just my $0.02 the 650 is ugly and the SC just has that “W0W” factor to it.
The F650s have an amazing turn radius. It’s the exact same length and width as a 350 dually, just taller. But surprisingly easy to whip around a parking lot. I have an 07 with the Cat C7 and Allison 3000 trans, Kelderman air ride front, air brakes. Turns heads everywhere, people take pictures with it every time you stop. It gets ~11mpg but holds 214 gallons so it’s a great road trip vehicle. MPG doesn’t change if you’re towing or not lol
Was talking to a Sportchassis guy at a truck stop once and he said he gets 8mpg and only holds 80-something gallons..? But they have air ride seats and cab which mine doesn’t. Yeah the 650s aren’t super fun on torn up surface streets, but on the highway its super smooth and comfortable.
(My 5yo for size comparison lol)
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Alright Alright... its been days and nobody asked ya whats the new BOAT for this thing? If you're lining up on towing rig your past pending deal....I gotta know!!!!Wife and I were talking today. I mentioneded off hand I was looking at freightliners and she said, that’s funny I was just mentioning to (our son) I’d like an F650 instead of an Escalade. (
Anyway, which one and why?
I like the freightliners for long distance towing with the air ride seats and what not. Next couple years we plan on getting out and towing to loto, Idaho, shit, maybe even Florida. But kinda a pain to go to the store in it. I realize an F650 isn’t ideal for driving around town but it’s not really THAT much bigger than a full size dually lifted on 22/24’s. Although the ride is shit from what I’m told. I’ve never owned a tow vehicle without 4WD. You can find both in 4wd but a little more scarce. Although do I really need 4WD?
f650 seems more like a toy (which I’m good with lol) sportchasis seems to be the grown up ride. Anyway, what’s says the masses? This would be a used purchase. I don’t take the 25-30% hit on buying new vehicles.
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Agreed. Launched our Eticket with an Expedition the first year our so.
. Every time my neighbor launches us in our truck he leaves it in 2WD just to show his “skills”.
I got my eye on a couple. Just waiting it out a little. Don’t have time to use it until April anyway. No hurry.
Nice looking rig.
Yep. I know Quinlan. Figured he’d contact me if he wanted to sell it. I actually saw it in June at the cig run.
Reminds me of the first F650 I ever saw. It was all black and owned by a super cross racer back in the late 90’s early 2000’s (maybe Cory hart or someone like that) He has a crane in the bed to lift his bikes out. It was HUGE! I had a 97 suburban with a 15” lift on 42’s so I was drooling. Lol
Yeah I remember Dustin Carter had it listed for a hot second for pretty cheap.Q wanted to sell, then didn't.....but I think he would if asked. Glad you found a possible canidate, keep us posted.
It's almost as clean too!
What's the deal on this? Price, location?
And it’s still around.
Really I haven’t seen it since the housing crash and no limit framing disappeared.
I haven’t listed it yet. If we end up
That’s the one I really want.
You and me both
I feel ya goin big Tankster.... liking what I'm seeing ... following with enthusiasm!I haven’t listed it yet. If we end up
Getting this 650 I’ll probably sell it. But maybe keep it. I don’t know.
Man, I can appreciate what goes into building those but that does nothing for me.
No. That’s a Kodiak. He has an international. Has a house in the harbor near me. I see the truck around town.
Nope. I have it all. Probably will set it up in havasu. If I ever sold it, buddy with the blue tiger wants it. He’s a huge stereofile
If money were no object, I’d take a Schwalbe conversion. Most built with 8.3 Cummins, some even bigger motors with 10 speed Eaton trans like this one:
horsetrailerworld.com
If I was gonna do that, I'd just opt for a bagged Pete. Do one with the baby sleepers and put a bench in it for people to sit back there.If money were no object, I’d take a Schwalbe conversion. Most built with 8.3 Cummins, some even bigger motors with 10 speed Eaton trans like this one:
Horse Trailer World
Jesus they ruined that one didn’t they.
That’s a little over the top lol
You have to dress like Batman if you’re going to drive that.
