For the LE's

[lalhc]

What's the law for a minor getting caught carrying a hunting knife in his car on a school campus after damaging my son's tires in the school parking lot? My local LE isn't even citing him for vandalism even after the kid admitted it.

 

[WTDecker]

What's the law for a minor getting caught carrying a hunting knife in his car on a school campus after damaging my son's tires in the school parking lot? My local LE isn't even citing him for vandalism even after the kid admitted it.

Because there is no money in it for them.

 

[OutCole'd]

That's sucks Ruben! We should kick his ass!

 

[lalhc]

That's sucks Ruben! We should kick his ass!

He just wrote a long apology letter to Justin via Facebook. My son isn't the forgiving type. We already had one parent come to our house tonight from a kid that we didn't even know was involved with this.

 

[OutCole'd]

He just wrote a long apology letter to Justin via Facebook. My son isn't the forgiving type. We already had one parent come to our house tonight from a kid that we didn't even know was involved with this.

Is someone cutting a check to replace the tire??

 

[rivermobster]

Is someone cutting a check to replace the tire??

Damm well better be.

 

[lalhc]

Is someone cutting a check to replace the tire??

Not yet - I have to get 4 tires because of the AWD.

 

[OutCole'd]

Not yet - I have to get 4 tires because of the AWD.

Well that's BS, I sure hope that changes soon.

 

[lalhc]

Well that's BS, I sure hope that changes soon.

It will!

I'm tired of all this HS shit! Several people have contacted Justin today and told him that this kid has been talking about doing something to him for about a week.

 

[JBS]

Sorry to hear this.

I hope the parents step up and make you whole. Having the authorities do it is just not going to happen.

If the person is a deadbeat no way to collect:thumbsdown

 

[lalhc]

Sorry to hear this.

I hope the parents step up and make you whole. Having the authorities do it is just not going to happen.

If the person is a deadbeat no way to collect:thumbsdown

I'm taking this as a threat to my son. LE searched his car on campus and found the knife, he admitted to doing this, and yet they didn't even write him a citation. The school is next - their treating this with a slap in the wrist for this kid. My wife and I are meeting with the Principal and Asst Principal tomorrow to vent our frustration over this.

 

[73mandella]

What state did this happen?

 

[Flyinbowtie]

It has been a long time, but I think that the knife is going to be a local ordinance violation, or some section of the Education Code that I cannot remember..
If the suspect is under 18, the cop CAN cite for 594 P.C. vandalism (misdemeanor) even tho the crime did not occur in his presence.
That is not the case with adults, cops must see it happen to issue cite/arrest..or have a warrant, etc, but this is the general rule...
The suspect has a problem, I would push for the cite and let him be referred to the Juvenile Probation Dept., and get him on the hook for restitution. Schools up here don't usualy let stuff like this slide.

 

[Chipster27]

Wow Ruben you guys have had your share of problems this year. Really pisses me off to hear that the cops won't do anything. Kid needs to get his ass handed to him. If I had done something like that as a kid I would not have seen the light of day for weeks.

Good luck and hopefully the parents wills step up and take responsibility for their kid's actions.

 

[lalhc]

What state did this happen?

California

 

[t&y]

I'll look it up tomorrow. I believe the knife on school grounds may be a felony. Depends on the verbage and whether they consider a parking lot to actually be on the school grounds for the sake of the code.

In cali I think the total for felony vandalism raised along with the grand theft total to somewhere around 900 total damage or loss value.

 

[lalhc]

It has been a long time, but I think that the knife is going to be a local ordinance violation, or some section of the Education Code that I cannot remember..
If the suspect is under 18, the cop CAN cite for 594 P.C. vandalism (misdemeanor) even tho the crime did not occur in his presence.
That is not the case with adults, cops must see it happen to issue cite/arrest..or have a warrant, etc, but this is the general rule...
The suspect has a problem, I would push for the cite and let him be referred to the Juvenile Probation Dept., and get him on the hook for restitution. Schools up here don't usualy let stuff like this slide.

Thanks - that's the direction I've been considering. The school will not get involved with any of this - I'll have to pursue through our local Sheriff's.

 

[HavasuHank]

I'm taking this as a threat to my son. LE searched his car on campus and found the knife, he admitted to doing this, and yet they didn't even write him a citation. The school is next - their treating this with a slap in the wrist for this kid. My wife and I are meeting with the Principal and Asst Principal tomorrow to vent our frustration over this.

great idea ... you gotta try and step in before the potential of something very bad happens.

you hear it all the time on the news when something bad and tragic happens ... research begins on the person who did the bad thing and they realize that there was history about the person.

try and stop it before it escalates into something much bigger and/or worse

 

[Slink]

Refer the shool resource officer / or handleing officer to Penal Code 626.10 for the knife on campus and PC 594 for the tires.........will depend on cost of tires if its a felony vandalism..........if officer won't deal with it, move up the ladder. School should also immediately suspend/expel the kid......good luck

 

[Deleted Account]

What city?

 

[kilrtoy]

Call the news they love this Shit... you have two felonies that have occurred....626.10 p. c . And 594 p. c. With the s.e. h.s stabbing murder... they would love to break this story..... so your saying sbso is not doing their job

 

[kilrtoy]

Also i forgot 422 pc another felony... so the kid is at 3 now

 

[lalhc]

What city?

Lake Arrowhead

 

[Deleted Account]

Yep just look up....

 

[DaveC]

Well there you go. If kindergarten cop doesn't know then no one will

 

[hallett21]

Please don't take this the wrong way but have your son and this kid been enemies and this was retaliation or was this just a blatant asshole move on the kid? Either way if the school won't do anything than get the sheriffs involved. Tires ain't cheap! But more importantly you don't want stuff getting out of hand

 

[lalhc]

Call the news they love this Shit... you have two felonies that have occurred....626.10 p. c . And 594 p. c. With the s.e. h.s stabbing murder... they would love to break this story..... so your saying sbso is not doing their job

The Sheriff deputy told me that it would be up to us if we wanted to press charges. He felt that the student showed a lot of remorse. I think the kid is sorry that he got caught.

 

[JBS]

The Sheriff deputy told me that it would be up to us if we wanted to press charges. He felt that the student showed a lot of remorse. I think the kid is sorry that he got caught.

That is now. When he gets away with it he will be bragging about it:thumbsdown

 

[lalhc]

Please don't take this the wrong way but have your son and this kid been enemies and this was retaliation or was this just a blatant asshole move on the kid? Either way if the school won't do anything than get the sheriffs involved. Tires ain't cheap! But more importantly you don't want stuff getting out of hand

They're not friends - my son was totally surprised that this kid did this. I know my son isn't perfect, but he didn't do anything to provoke this. The kid admitted that he didn't like my son. I wouldn't pursue this more than I am if it was just a random act or the kid just spontaneously started a fight with my son, but he thought all of this out.

 

[hallett21]

They're not friends - my son was totally surprised that this kid did this. I know my son isn't perfect, but he didn't do anything to provoke this. The kid admitted that he didn't like my son. I wouldn't pursue this more than I am if it was just a random act or the kid just spontaneously started a fight with my son, but he thought all of this out.

We could all take turns slashing the kids tires for a week lol

 

[lalhc]

We could all take turns slashing the kids tires for a week lol

LOL, that's not what I want. I want it to end.

 

[CoolCruzin]

LOL, that's not what I want. I want it to end.

Than your best off to just walk away.
For me ........an eye of an eye. It's old school for me.

 

[hallett21]

LOL, that's not what I want. I want it to end.

higher road is always better. Has this kid ever had a run in with the cops? If not then maybe the cops scaring the crap out of him will end it. Even if its not formal but just the idea of being in high school and the possibility of going to jail for something serious I'd shit my pants and straighten up. And if you want to pursue it more than thats up to

 

[lalhc]

higher road is always better. Has this kid ever had a run in with the cops? If not then maybe the cops scaring the crap out of him will end it. Even if its not formal but just the idea of being in high school and the possibility of going to jail for something serious I'd shit my pants and straighten up. And if you want to pursue it more than thats up to

The dad called and was totally apologetic, which I expected. He's going to pay for 4 new tires on our car, since it's AWD. I'm still going to voice my concern to the principal & asst principal at my son's school.

 

[Slow What]

i can understand the LEOs...but at my kids schools it's zero tolerence..a knife of any kind and admitting to doing it he would be expelled

 

[rivermobster]

The dad called and was totally apologetic, which I expected. He's going to pay for 4 new tires on our car, since it's AWD. I'm still going to voice my concern to the principal & asst principal at my son's school.

Nice. I might be tempted to leave it at that. Sounds like the kid is gonna get his ass beat!!! :thumbsup

i can understand the LEOs...but at my kids schools it's zero tolerence..a knife of any kind and admitting to doing it he would be expelled

Same here. I'm suprised that hasent happened already.

 

[RiverDave]

Good luck and hopefully the parents wills step up and take responsibility for their kid's actions.

Hopefully the parents step up and make the kid take responsibility for his actions.

The dad called and was totally apologetic, which I expected. He's going to pay for 4 new tires on our car, since it's AWD. I'm still going to voice my concern to the principal & asst principal at my son's school.

I would accept that, and let it go.. but I think I would insist the the money is either earned / worked off by the kid.

RD

 

[Hammer]

I don't understand why the school doesn't have a problem with him having a knife in his car at school ? That should be a suspension, detention or ?

 

[hallett21]

I don't understand why the school doesn't have a problem with him having a knife in his car at school ? That should be a suspension, detention or ?

Playing devils advocate here but is the car technically private property in this case? Maybe it happened on a lot that they don't own?

 

[RiverDave]

I don't understand why the school doesn't have a problem with him having a knife in his car at school ? That should be a suspension, detention or ?

Goes to show what I know.. LOL I didn't even know a small hunting knife would be a problem at school?

RD

 

[Hammer]

I dunno how old you are Dave but when I was in high school a knife on school property whether found in your locker,backpack was a big deal, they viewed it as a weapon. I don't care but with some of the crazy stuff kids do without thinking when they don't like somebody can get bad . Not saying THIS particular kid would but I wouldn't take anything for granted after columbine if I were them.... Just my .02

Hope this thread doesn't go sideways just getting opinions on what my concern would be if it were me...

 

[Dettom]

Also i forgot 422 pc another felony... so the kid is at 3 now

Yup..call the media. No way this kid should walk.

 

[lalhc]

Goes to show what I know.. LOL I didn't even know a small hunting knife would be a problem at school?

RD

Any knife, including a pocket knife, is a violation of school ed code. Any knife over 2 1/2 inches long is a penal code violation, and the parking lot is considered part of the campus.

 

[Mr. C]

i can understand the LEOs...but at my kids schools it's zero tolerence..a knife of any kind and admitting to doing it he would be expelled

I don't understand how you can understand the LEO's decision. He was caught with the knife and admitted it. his ass should of been hauled away. Just a difference of opinions is all.

lahlc,
After you are done meeting with the school principle i would be on my over to the school districts office and let them know your concerns as well.
My mom worked for our schools districts superintendent for about 25 yrs and I believe having a knife on campus was mandatory expulsion, no if ands or buts.. I'll try and get a hold of her just to see how different districts are.

Hope it all works out the way you want..... I think I would want more then just the tires replaced....the kid needs some consequences for is actions.

 

[lalhc]

I don't understand how you can understand the LEO's decision. He was caught with the knife and admitted it. his ass should of been hauled away. Just a difference of opinions is all.

lahlc,
After you are done meeting with the school principle i would be on my over to the school districts office and let them know your concerns as well.
My mom worked for our schools districts superintendent for about 25 yrs and I believe having a knife on campus was mandatory expulsion, no if ands or buts.. I'll try and get a hold of her just to see how different districts are.

Hope it all works out the way you want..... I think I would want more then just the tires replaced....the kid needs some consequences for is actions.

Thanks - my wife is already on the district office - she's a teacher in the same school district.

 

[bunkrepair]

i would take the money for the tires, and try to tell your son to avoid the situation i know when i was in highschool if this would have happened the kid would have been kicked out no doubt we got 6 hours of detention if our cell phones left our cars we were not even suppossed to have them in our lockers and i also know how i was im sure a large group of us would have found this little shit outside of school and gave him a good ole' fashioned ass kicking

 

[PolarBearKing]

Goes to show what I know.. LOL I didn't even know a small hunting knife would be a problem at school?

RD

Second graders with small Cub Scout pocket knives have been expelled for bringing 'em to school. Zero tolerence is just that...

 

[PolarBearKing]

Thanks - my wife is already on the district office - she's a teacher in the same school district.

Oh hell, that kid is gone... Hope he get's some counseling too.

 

[PVHCA]

If you need a tire hook-up let me know, LOL!!

On a serious note, have you spoken with this kid? Sometimes kids like this need a break, maybe it will change his direction in life when he sees how an adult may show some compassion.

Bad deal all around and it sucks that kids out there can be so cruel.

 

[Buoy]

Goes to show what I know.. LOL I didn't even know a small hunting knife would be a problem at school?

RD

And to think... Just how long ago was it that it was normal to have a stocked gun rack in the rear window of your pick-up truck?