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Remember when air travel was a thrilling adventure? When soaring through the clouds felt like stepping into a glamorous movie scene? These days, it’s more like stepping into an episode of "Survivor," complete with mental endurance challenges and physical discomfort.

I recently embarked on a trip to Florida, and let’s just say, it was quite the journey. Picture this: a 12-hour delay with American Airlines, all without a cloud in the sky to blame. The saga began with a two-hour delay because our plane simply decided not to show up on time. Classic.

Once we finally boarded, we were greeted with the news that there was no air conditioning until we were airborne. Great news for Phoenix at 2:30 PM—where it was a brisk 115 degrees. As we all started to resemble a scene from a sauna, we heard the sweetest words, "Flight attendants, prepare for takeoff." Victory!

But not so fast. Two minutes later, our captain regretfully informed us that the crew had timed out for the day, and we had to head back to the gate. Imagine the joy! We were marinated in our own sweat for 45 minutes before we could deplane because—plot twist!—no gate or ground crew was expecting us.

Once we finally escaped the hotbox, we were handed a $12 food voucher for our troubles. Let me tell you, nothing screams “luxury” like a meal from the airport food court.

Fast forward to 10:30 PM, and our fresh crew from California arrived. But wait! The new pilot couldn’t get the AC to work either. Cue the mass migration across the airport to a new plane. We watched with bated breath as they transferred all our luggage from Plane A to Plane B. Another hour later, we were finally ready to take off, with most of us too exhausted to care about anything other than collapsing into our seats.

After an unplanned red-eye flight, our family vacation finally began. Nothing sets the tone like exhaustion and frustration! Upon returning, I wrote to American Airlines about our experience. Their response? A generous $50 voucher for future air travel. Thanks, but no thanks. However, I have to give them credit for their customer service representative's name: Precious Payne. It couldn’t have been more fitting.

In the end, all I could do was laugh. Because if you don’t find humor in the chaos of air travel these days, you might just end up in the fetal position on the airport floor.

Here’s to finding the fun in flying—one “Precious Payne” at a time!
 

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"But did you die?"

It could have been worse, the AC and late take off is a bummer, but nowhere near as bad as driving across Texas...with or without AC :oops:

Have fun in Florida! It's still hot here🥵
LOL! Nope we did not die and ended up having an epic trip! I was surprised when we got back to Arizona it was humid here too. Makes my hair curly. Sigh...
 

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Seems like American is always having delays and problems nowadays
American sucks donkey
Balls. Stranded us in Florida
For an extra day. No vouchers, no upgrades, no hotel offer, nada. Just, “you’re bumped
To tomorrow”.

Then we waited for 4 hours after the boarding time to finally fucking leave. Fuuuuuuck American.
 

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American is terrible. I flew with them in January and spent several days in the airports trying to get from the west coast to east coast and back. Crew didn’t show up, flight cancelled, delayed, every single flight. It took three days to get from LAX to Hartford and two days to get back. Their customer service lines were a mile long at every airport.
 

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Seems like American is always having delays and problems nowadays
We got stuck back in Illinois during Christmas storm and that baggage fiasco with Southwest
Spirit was the best and immediately refunded our flight.
American was the worst and had to spend night in airport in Dallas and all they could do is send us to Reno instead of vegas and all they gave was a $50 credit for future flight
Southwest refunded ticket and rental car out of Reno after a fight but we finally made it back to vegas after 3 days
 

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American sucks donkey
Balls. Stranded us in Florida
For an extra day. No vouchers, no upgrades, no hotel offer, nada. Just, “you’re bumped
To tomorrow”.

Then we waited for 4 hours after the boarding time to finally fucking leave. Fuuuuuuck American.
That is terrible. But that's their attitude "oh well just wait longer."
 

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American is terrible. I flew with them in January and spent several days in the airports trying to get from the west coast to east coast and back. Crew didn’t show up, flight cancelled, delayed, every single flight. It took three days to get from LAX to Hartford and two days to get back. Their customer service lines were a mile long at every airport.
Ugh! That makes our measly 12 hour delay look like a cake walk!
 

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The only way to have a chance is to be on the earliest direct flight nowadays. Connection?...forget about that shit.

I need to get my shit together and make some bank so I can call The Jet Business dude and forget all this cattle car bull...
 

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Just glad everyone made it safely to destination. Realize just who is in charge, Superintendent if you will of the DOT, over the FAA, ATC. Responsible for the debacle that air travel has become.

There is no respect for regulation, when you have a deviant at the helm of Aviation. There used to be, "Pride." Respect has to be earned. There used to be Zero tolerance for flaws from Subcontractors for Boeing. RD would be far more knowledgeable on this subject than I.

But I know A Naval M-Mate, Also a BSA Dad Machine shop owner, lifelong in the Trade. Your parts were dead on. Or rejected in house. Because people's' lives depended on it.

Why is it, that changed?
Greed, and lack of Respect. The only heads that roll nowadays are Boeing Whistleblowers...
 

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American has left us stranded before but always came through on the follow up. Couple years ago they cancelled our flight. Late at night at O'Hare, next flight the ABQ was the next day. American put us on Delta and we got to see Atlanta as a bonus. I was on the phone with AA before we got off the airplane.

Anyway, a couple days later my phone rings and it is AAdvantage customer service (I've had a frequent flyer number for a couple of decades but don't have any status). They gave all of us 25k miles each for all the trouble.
 

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Thank goodness I was not on this flight with you. Please don’t bring your luck if we travel on the same flight in the future. Enjoy your vacation Amy. Where are the photos of your adventures while on vacation?
 

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I fly American for business all the time, and knock on wood, it goes pretty smooth. Hope I didnt just jinx myself.lol

I will say that Buisness Class service is like non existent now though. They barely bring you your food with a smile. No more extra effort.
 

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I use American and for the most part they have been great. I do have status because we have their advantage card and put everything we can on it. We chose AA because our son lives in El Shit hole while in the Army and El shit hole is a hub for AA. I had problems back in Jan when I had to fly during that winter storm where they kept closing airport. AA handled it well and gave me vouchers.

A couple of times we have been bumped to first class. Thinking about upgrading the card to get access to the admiral club because airports suck.
 

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Try their website and either call or write to the comment section. I have complained about some crap and was given 5000 FFM, (delta) another time my G-Kids and their parents got screwed over had a connection plane late, connecting plane left early was still at the gate would not let them board. They did get put up at a hotel Delta paid for. After I called everyone was also issued a $100,00 amazon card. So while not perfect it was something.
 

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Remember when air travel was a thrilling adventure? When soaring through the clouds felt like stepping into a glamorous movie scene? These days, it’s more like stepping into an episode of "Survivor," complete with mental endurance challenges and physical discomfort.

In the end, all I could do was laugh. Because if you don’t find humor in the chaos of air travel these days, you might just end up in the fetal position on the airport floor.

Here’s to finding the fun in flying—one “Precious Payne” at a time!

I'm 63 and can just barely recall these 'glamor days' because they were so long ago.
You must be older than I thought you were 😂😂😂
 

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These are some pretty horrible stories. My cousin fly's for AA. I'll have to bust his balls about this stuff.
@Amy@Team RDP do you happen to remember the pilots name?
Good to hear you still had a good vacation with your family.
 

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Remember when air travel was a thrilling adventure? When soaring through the clouds felt like stepping into a glamorous movie scene? These days, it’s more like stepping into an episode of "Survivor," complete with mental endurance challenges and physical discomfort.

I recently embarked on a trip to Florida, and let’s just say, it was quite the journey. Picture this: a 12-hour delay with American Airlines, all without a cloud in the sky to blame. The saga began with a two-hour delay because our plane simply decided not to show up on time. Classic.

Once we finally boarded, we were greeted with the news that there was no air conditioning until we were airborne. Great news for Phoenix at 2:30 PM—where it was a brisk 115 degrees. As we all started to resemble a scene from a sauna, we heard the sweetest words, "Flight attendants, prepare for takeoff." Victory!

But not so fast. Two minutes later, our captain regretfully informed us that the crew had timed out for the day, and we had to head back to the gate. Imagine the joy! We were marinated in our own sweat for 45 minutes before we could deplane because—plot twist!—no gate or ground crew was expecting us.

Once we finally escaped the hotbox, we were handed a $12 food voucher for our troubles. Let me tell you, nothing screams “luxury” like a meal from the airport food court.

Fast forward to 10:30 PM, and our fresh crew from California arrived. But wait! The new pilot couldn’t get the AC to work either. Cue the mass migration across the airport to a new plane. We watched with bated breath as they transferred all our luggage from Plane A to Plane B. Another hour later, we were finally ready to take off, with most of us too exhausted to care about anything other than collapsing into our seats.

After an unplanned red-eye flight, our family vacation finally began. Nothing sets the tone like exhaustion and frustration! Upon returning, I wrote to American Airlines about our experience. Their response? A generous $50 voucher for future air travel. Thanks, but no thanks. However, I have to give them credit for their customer service representative's name: Precious Payne. It couldn’t have been more fitting.

In the end, all I could do was laugh. Because if you don’t find humor in the chaos of air travel these days, you might just end up in the fetal position on the airport floor.

Here’s to finding the fun in flying—one “Precious Payne” at a time!
They are more focused on. Making sure the planes doors don't blow off or engines burst into flames these days
 

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Gave up on AA 8 years ago after 500k miles flown. Switched to Delta and use Southwest when staying west of Dallas.

All airlines have issues, you just have to travel at the right time and pay for the better seats!
 

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We got stuck back in Illinois during Christmas storm and that baggage fiasco with Southwest
Spirit was the best and immediately refunded our flight.
American was the worst and had to spend night in airport in Dallas and all they could do is send us to Reno instead of vegas and all they gave was a $50 credit for future flight
Southwest refunded ticket and rental car out of Reno after a fight but we finally made it back to vegas after 3 days
Crazy story!! My girlfriend just got stuck over night in Dallas last week with you guessed it American Airlines.
 

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My kids this morning boarding Delta
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there is no way the pilots only figured out as you began to taxi out that they timed out. something else was the real cause for the return to the gate. likely mechanical. especially since you were going t fly without AC on the ground, then changed planes because of no AC on the ground.

id bet there was a more serious mechanical issue and they dont want these things made public anymore.
 

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there is no way the pilots only figured out as you began to taxi out that they timed out. something else was the real cause for the return to the gate. likely mechanical. especially since you were going t fly without AC on the ground, then changed planes because of no AC on the ground.

id bet there was a more serious mechanical issue and they dont want these things made public anymore.
agree crews don't time out while headed for takeoff.
 

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Thinking about upgrading the card to get access to the admiral club because airports suck.

Be carefull with this plan. I've seen more and more people not getting access to airline lounges due to lineups .... and there's 2 kinds of this access; credit card status and or flight segment status.
The flight segment people get priority.
 

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there is no way the pilots only figured out as you began to taxi out that they timed out. something else was the real cause for the return to the gate. likely mechanical. especially since you were going t fly without AC on the ground, then changed planes because of no AC on the ground.

id bet there was a more serious mechanical issue and they dont want these things made public anymore.

This is more
Logical
 

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there is no way the pilots only figured out as you began to taxi out that they timed out. something else was the real cause for the return to the gate. likely mechanical. especially since you were going t fly without AC on the ground, then changed planes because of no AC on the ground.

id bet there was a more serious mechanical issue and they dont want these things made public anymore.
100%. Once doors are closed, crew can’t time out.
 

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there is no way the pilots only figured out as you began to taxi out that they timed out. something else was the real cause for the return to the gate. likely mechanical. especially since you were going t fly without AC on the ground, then changed planes because of no AC on the ground.

id bet there was a more serious mechanical issue and they dont want these things made public anymore.
There are two FAR Part 117 limits that must be complied with: (1) Max block time limit and (2) Flight Duty Period (FDP) limit. It's very likely that the crew in this case, despite their best efforts and due to the delay, were unable to get airborne without exceeding the FDP limit. I don't fly for American but I have been flying for one of the other big 4 US airlines for 30+ years. My company provides us a max taxi out time (max time in hours/minutes from out to off) and a latest wheels up time (xxxxZ) for every flight to ensure compliance with FAR Part 117. The jet records and reports all of the times, so they are no shit/drop dead times. I don't BS the customers, if the jet is broken, it's broken. If we've timed out, we've timed out.
 
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I do not fly domestic more than 400 miles aside from Hawaii. In the last 5 years not flight has been late. International flights seem to really have it together. Internationally I use, Lufthansa, Singapore, JAL, and Emirates. To Hawaii, mainly Hawaiian, Always non-stop to the islands. All are just fine.
 

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I do not fly domestic more than 400 miles aside from Hawaii. In the last 5 years not flight has been late. International flights seem to really have it together. Internationally I use, Lufthansa, Singapore, JAL, and Emirates. To Hawaii, mainly Hawaiian, Always non-stop to the islands. All are just fine.
The domestic system is very messy. 10lbs of shit in a 5lb bag. Heavy demand, wide spread airport construction, inefficient ATC system, convective weather, aircraft shortages, and retirement of expertise. I flew a Boeing across the Pacific last night. Smooth with an early arrival. I try to stay west of the I-5.
 

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The only way to have a chance is to be on the earliest direct flight nowadays. Connection?...forget about that shit.

I need to get my shit together and make some bank so I can call The Jet Business dude and forget all this cattle car bull...
That’s the thing that irked me the most. We paid extra and drove further (Phoenix instead of Vegas) just so we could be on the earliest direct flight to Tampa. And they still screwed up my master plan!

Totally with ya on the private jet idea!!
 

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Just glad everyone made it safely to destination. Realize just who is in charge, Superintendent if you will of the DOT, over the FAA, ATC. Responsible for the debacle that air travel has become.

There is no respect for regulation, when you have a deviant at the helm of Aviation. There used to be, "Pride." Respect has to be earned. There used to be Zero tolerance for flaws from Subcontractors for Boeing. RD would be far more knowledgeable on this subject than I.

But I know A Naval M-Mate, Also a BSA Dad Machine shop owner, lifelong in the Trade. Your parts were dead on. Or rejected in house. Because people's' lives depended on it.

Why is it, that changed?
Greed, and lack of Respect. The only heads that roll nowadays are Boeing Whistleblowers...
It scares me how right you are. It’s only a matter of time before a major incident occurs and I don’t want to be on THAT flight.
 

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American has left us stranded before but always came through on the follow up. Couple years ago they cancelled our flight. Late at night at O'Hare, next flight the ABQ was the next day. American put us on Delta and we got to see Atlanta as a bonus. I was on the phone with AA before we got off the airplane.

Anyway, a couple days later my phone rings and it is AAdvantage customer service (I've had a frequent flyer number for a couple of decades but don't have any status). They gave all of us 25k miles each for all the trouble.
I don’t fly enough to have any clout. Considering this was 💯 an AA issue I was very unimpressed with their response. Though I do love their customer service agents name. That is classic! I’m glad they took care of you!
 
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