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Until OSHA enters a rule into the CFR's, Code of Federal Regulations, this is Joe Biden pissing in the wind. Never say never, but it has to be law.

As far as charging certain people higher premiums for a medical insurance policy, Isn't that forbidden by Obamacare? So, repeal the ACA? Nice...
 
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bldrinker said:
In my situation my job is dam near bulletproof. It provides a nice living and very good retirement. And I may be able to put my kids through college.
I have no college degree so finding a new career with no experience will be next to impossible at any decent pay scale.

I already bailed on buying a new toy hauler, selling the truck I just bought and probably selling the Jeep I got not long ago. All so we will be in a better financial state with cash on hand in case I make the decision to follow beliefs over money.
This job provides me the ability to give my kids a very good start in life. Do I make them pay the price fir my stubbornness? Do I become a hypocrite and cave?

I’m fucked either way it seems.
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These are the stories that break my heart.

Good luck with your decision.
 
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Wedgy said:
Until OSHA enters a rule into the CFR's, Code of Federal Regulations, this is Joe Biden pissing in the wind. Never say never, but it has to be law.

As far as charging certain people higher premiums for a medical insurance policy, Isn't that forbidden by Obamacare? So, repeal the ACA? Nice...
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As much as I agree with you current conditions don’t agree. Private companies can require the vaccine regardless of OSHA or Biden mandate, and they currently are. Appears your only recourse would be to sue for wrongful termination, good luck with that, especially in CA.


It’s already in the works, it may be shot down in the courts but no time soon and as they are changing the rules to suit them, maybe never.
 
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Wedgy said:
Until OSHA enters a rule into the CFR's, Code of Federal Regulations, this is Joe Biden pissing in the wind. Never say never, but it has to be law.

As far as charging certain people higher premiums for a medical insurance policy, Isn't that forbidden by Obamacare? So, repeal the ACA? Nice...
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The plans that are doing this are most likely fully self funded ERISA plans. Very little of the ACA applies to them. I do tend to agree that charging the un-vaccinated more should come under scrutiny as you cannot charge more for health reasons. BUT the government is willing to let anything go in hopes of getting more jabs into people.
 
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People need to unite and walk off their jobs, pull kids from school and stop supporting any business that is requiring proof of vaccination.

Until then, they will just keep throttling forward. Unfortunately social media platforms will not help bringing people together for a worthy cause... the algorithms will just fade you out.

Funny thing about how BAD government fails at damn near everything they do.... remember when the vaccine was first being released?

-Only the REALLY important first responders, doctors and nurses, high risk individuals can get it! everyone else... back OFF, not enough to go around.... you gonna die!!
-Hey kids can get it now too.... c'mon bring your kids
-Hey ya'll FREE fries if you get the jab
-Hey ya'll better get this thing OR ELSE!
-Mandates
-Hey now we're gonna fire all you first responders, doctors and nurses unless you get the damn shot! PEOPLE ARE DYING!!
-Okay you can't do anything in society unless you get this damn jab! we really care about your health! it is for your own good!
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-Australia

This all happened within a very short period of time.
 
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Ziggy said:
A big concern I have with this shit is more about if large numbers of employees are axed, especially in highly trained/educated positions such as healthcare, who the fuck are "they" going to hire to fill these positions??
No fucking way is some buzz cut pink haired bull with blue armpit hair they hired from StarBucks drawing blood from this muthafuka.
Seriously!! Who is gonna replace dedicated professionals in any of these kinda positions? 🙄😏😠
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A lot of people are leaving healthcare. When I started in healthcare, I was required to get vaccinated, healthcare is not a work environment for an anti-vaxer. Other professions, I don’t agree with vax mandates- but in healthcare it’s not some new thing, so I don’t have much sympathy for those who don’t want to get vaccinated for covid/ flu/ etc. I’ve had multiple jobs in the past that told me when I was hired it was not an option. I’ve had plenty of anti-vax coworkers- but they are generally the exception. No idea where they will find workers to fill the void, hopefully it helps increase wages, lol.
 
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LargeOrangeFont said:
My SIL is a travel nurse currently in Boston. She has said its basically 50/50 vaxxed/unvaxxed in the hospital. Her estimation is 30/70 vaxxed/unvaxxed dying. 90% of all those are obese. Her advice is don't bother with the vax.
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I am not seeing the same numbers here in AZ. And I have not met a MD who does not recommend the vax. Not to say those who are vaccinated aren’t getting sick- but they aren’t getting critically ill.
 
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WHO database reports over 2 million potential COVID jab injuries in 2021, vast majority in women​

www.lifesitenews.com

WHO database reports over 2 million potential COVID jab injuries in 2021, vast majority in women - LifeSite

2,199,476 adverse effects following vaccination against COVID-19 have been reported in 2021 as of today, with 866,558 (39 percent) of the injuries being reported in 18–44-year-olds, and 1,517,989 (69 percent) of all injuries occurring in women.
www.lifesitenews.com www.lifesitenews.com

According to VigiAccess, 2,199,476 adverse effects following vaccination against COVID-19 have been reported in 2021 as of today, with 866,558 (39 percent) of the injuries being reported in 18–44-year-olds, and 1,517,989 (69 percent) of all injuries occurring in women.
 
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RitcheyRch said:

WHO database reports over 2 million potential COVID jab injuries in 2021, vast majority in women​

www.lifesitenews.com

WHO database reports over 2 million potential COVID jab injuries in 2021, vast majority in women - LifeSite

2,199,476 adverse effects following vaccination against COVID-19 have been reported in 2021 as of today, with 866,558 (39 percent) of the injuries being reported in 18–44-year-olds, and 1,517,989 (69 percent) of all injuries occurring in women.
www.lifesitenews.com www.lifesitenews.com

According to VigiAccess, 2,199,476 adverse effects following vaccination against COVID-19 have been reported in 2021 as of today, with 866,558 (39 percent) of the injuries being reported in 18–44-year-olds, and 1,517,989 (69 percent) of all injuries occurring in women.
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Don't believe any of that misinformation. Hurry up and get the jab!
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
A lot of people are leaving healthcare. When I started in healthcare, I was required to get vaccinated, healthcare is not a work environment for an anti-vaxer. Other professions, I don’t agree with vax mandates- but in healthcare it’s not some new thing, so I don’t have much sympathy for those who don’t want to get vaccinated for covid/ flu/ etc. I’ve had multiple jobs in the past that told me when I was hired it was not an option. I’ve had plenty of anti-vax coworkers- but they are generally the exception. No idea where they will find workers to fill the void, hopefully it helps increase wages, lol.
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When I started in healthcare we only had to have hepatitis shots, nothing else was required🤷‍♂️
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
A lot of people are leaving healthcare. When I started in healthcare, I was required to get vaccinated, healthcare is not a work environment for an anti-vaxer. Other professions, I don’t agree with vax mandates- but in healthcare it’s not some new thing, so I don’t have much sympathy for those who don’t want to get vaccinated for covid/ flu/ etc. I’ve had multiple jobs in the past that told me when I was hired it was not an option. I’ve had plenty of anti-vax coworkers- but they are generally the exception. No idea where they will find workers to fill the void, hopefully it helps increase wages, lol.
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Tell me you’re not trying to equate the Covid jab with proven vaccines, correct?
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
I am not seeing the same numbers here in AZ. And I have not met a MD who does not recommend the vax. Not to say those who are vaccinated aren’t getting sick- but they aren’t getting critically ill.
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Are medical workers required to get annual flu shots?
 
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RitcheyRch said:
I had COVID so fock the jab. My natural immunity now overrides the jab.
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To me, This right here ^^^^ is what has me most concerned. There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to get the vax once you have anti-bodies from actually having Covid. NO SCIENCE SUPPORTS THIS. But yet they continue pushing this LIE! This entire scheme/scam started with the "Bat Soup lie", and truth and integrity continue to diminish.

Am I afraid? You God Damn right I am afraid!!!......Gov forcing this "vax" in this manner leaves reason for major concern as there is no doubt in my mind that there is much more to this "scheme" than meets the eye. It appears to me they are "setting the stage" for much more to come. The only one person I have seen and heard stating any opinions and facts that I can accept are those expressed by Dr Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA technologies. Dr Malone is not anti-vax, nor is he pro vax as he says there are far too many unknowns about the long term DNA effects and the bi-products generated by the "spike proteins".

I put my faith and trust in God....not government.
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
A lot of people are leaving healthcare. When I started in healthcare, I was required to get vaccinated, healthcare is not a work environment for an anti-vaxer. Other professions, I don’t agree with vax mandates- but in healthcare it’s not some new thing, so I don’t have much sympathy for those who don’t want to get vaccinated for covid/ flu/ etc. I’ve had multiple jobs in the past that told me when I was hired it was not an option. I’ve had plenty of anti-vax coworkers- but they are generally the exception. No idea where they will find workers to fill the void, hopefully it helps increase wages, lol.
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So you equate tried and true vaccines to an untested experimental shot?
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
I am not seeing the same numbers here in AZ. And I have not met a MD who does not recommend the vax. Not to say those who are vaccinated aren’t getting sick- but they aren’t getting critically ill.
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So just like the majority of people who catch Covid in general..... not critically ill.
 
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EmpirE231 said:
So just like the majority of people who catch Covid in general..... not critically ill.
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To me, This right here ^^^^ is what has me most concerned. There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to get the vax once you have anti-bodies from actually having Covid. NO SCIENCE SUPPORTS THIS. But yet they continue pushing this LIE! This entire scheme/scam started with the "Bat Soup lie", and truth and integrity continue to diminish.

Am I afraid? You God Damn right I am afraid!!!......Gov forcing this "vax" in this manner leaves reason for major concern as there is no doubt in my mind that there is much more to this "scheme" than meets the eye. It appears to me they are "setting the stage" for much more to come. The only one person I have seen and heard stating any opinions and facts that I can accept are those expressed by Dr Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA technologies. Dr Malone is not anti-vax, nor is he pro vax as he says there are far too many unknowns about the long term DNA effects and the bi-products generated by the "spike proteins".

I put my faith and trust in God....not government.
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Dr. Malone
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1446476080785805315
 
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500bbc said:
So you equate tried and true vaccines to an untested experimental shot?
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Not necessarily. I’m just saying healthcare workers have always been expected to be vaccinated, so it’s not a new thing
 
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RCDave said:
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Are medical workers required to get annual flu shots?
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In my situation, yes. It used to be you could get a “religious exemption” by verbally saying you didn’t want the shot. Nowadays they want actual paperwork from a place of worship.

Some hospital systems won’t take any type of exemption.
 
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hawgty55 said:
Anyone company making them get the Jab? And is anybody standing up against it? Currently I know of one state employee who did not resist at all and got the shot because of the mandate. I do know several teachers law enforcement and people in the medical field who are starting to hear word of the Mandate but no loss of jobs and or a defined date.
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Considering Pfizer secretly includes ground up aborted fetus cells in their syringe fillers, I’d think any religion would object, so the exemption should be good to go.
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
In my situation, yes. It used to be you could get a “religious exemption” by verbally saying you didn’t want the shot. Nowadays they want actual paperwork from a place of worship.

Some hospital systems won’t take any type of exemption.
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Which is why there is public distaste for hospitals, physicians and pharmacist who are unwilling to treat the virus with known medications that fight the virus in the name of the almighty dollar and government overreach. I believe they too will be rightfully judged and not exempt for their actions.

Ezekiel 25:17 from the movie Pulp Fiction
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regor said:
Fair enough, but you would admit that this particular round of vaccinations, is not a typical round of vaccinations in the healthcare industry?
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Yes, and I would say the current environment has caused them to become more strict on employee vaccinations, overall.
 
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just_floatin said:
Dr. Malone
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1446476080785805315
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Everyone needs to listen to Malone here, this is what I have been hearing from actual MRNA scientists for a while now. The very small spectrum "spike vaccine" can be VERY dangerous. I am in no way rooting for the vaccine to fail, but the gamble we are taking here is very very serious. There have never been higher stakes. We have already seen the vaccine is not holding, this has all the potential to get 1000x worse.
 
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HotRod82 said:
Everyone needs to listen to Malone here, this is what I have been hearing from actual MRNA scientists for a while now. The very small spectrum "spike vaccine" can be VERY dangerous. I am in no way rooting for the vaccine to fail, but the gamble we are taking here is very very serious. There have never been higher stakes. We have already seen the vaccine is not holding, this has all the potential to get 1000x worse.
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SNiC Jet said:
To me, This right here ^^^^ is what has me most concerned. There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to get the vax once you have anti-bodies from actually having Covid. NO SCIENCE SUPPORTS THIS. But yet they continue pushing this LIE! This entire scheme/scam started with the "Bat Soup lie", and truth and integrity continue to diminish.

Am I afraid? You God Damn right I am afraid!!!......Gov forcing this "vax" in this manner leaves reason for major concern as there is no doubt in my mind that there is much more to this "scheme" than meets the eye. It appears to me they are "setting the stage" for much more to come. The only one person I have seen and heard stating any opinions and facts that I can accept are those expressed by Dr Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA technologies. Dr Malone is not anti-vax, nor is he pro vax as he says there are far too many unknowns about the long term DNA effects and the bi-products generated by the "spike proteins".

I put my faith and trust in God....not government.
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Hey stop with the rampant negativity! What more evidence do you need other than, "oops, it's really three shots and a booster every year until you die"!
 
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Bowtiepower00 said:
Not necessarily. I’m just saying healthcare workers have always been expected to be vaccinated, so it’s not a new thing
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When I entered healthcare (22 years ago) we were not required to have all these vaccinations just hepatitis, there were people that were hired the same day as me (anti vaxers) that were told you are only required to get the hepatitis vaccine, we were never required to get the flu shot either just recommended. So "always expected" is wrong.
 
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liquid addiction said:
Yet in Texas a judge has ordered that the governors abortion law is unconstitutional. Judge says " its her body, her choice". WTF?
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An illegal ruling is still a ruling. Texas appealed immediately. Wishful thinking on worthless POS Obama Judge's part. Legality, to "Them," doesn't matter.

I was dealt an illegal ruling by a POS Prick Judge once. My Atty was spitting mad. "Can we fight it?" "Sure, but you don't have $10,000. We'll wait until this Judge is rotated out." Next hearing, new Judge, just about to gavel out. "Your Honor, could you please review this prior ruling?" "Sure, hold on."

Judge, reviewing prior illegal ruling. " What, is this? ( 2 syllable what,) "Oh? IDTS..." Illegal prior ruling was reversed, struck TF down. Justice served. Ex Wife pissed to this day.
 
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