Toolman
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Imperial and Harbor.Beach and Lambert? Used to go there once a week when I worked down the street. Usually went thru drive thru.
Imperial and Harbor.Beach and Lambert? Used to go there once a week when I worked down the street. Usually went thru drive thru.
No way we will get 20 year olds in construction anymore. No reason to bust their ass in the sun anymore.
That generation doesn't think long term, fast food
pay is fine with them until the become youtube famous.
Shit construction workers means shit construction. Stuff isn't getting build well ever again.
Maybe custom homes with reputable builder..maybe
Yep. Same thing happened during our contract negotiations. I would show the young guys how much my annuity was for retirement. I started at 25 cents a hour and ended at over $10. Just got my monthly deposit today. $$$$You're not wrong, the trades are aging out. Trades are still in high demand and all of us getting older are essentially going to be able to name our price so to speak.
I remain hopeful that will entice the younger generation to jump in.
Kind of the same thing you're saying. When we come up on negotiations and these youngsters scream and yell that they want to see the money on the check. I try to remind them that it's a marathon not a sprint. You could be 40 something years old and have 2 or 300k in your annuity, that's playing the long game.
Yep. Same thing happened during our contract negotiations. I would show the young guys how much my annuity was for retirement. I started at 25 cents a hour and ended at over $10. Just got my monthly deposit today. $$$$
This reminded me of conversations I had with a young apprentice almost 20 years ago. He worked for the union electrical firm I had under contract on a data center. It was a pretty good sized project.Kind of the same thing you're saying. When we come up on negotiations and these youngsters scream and yell that they want to see the money on the check. I try to remind them that it's a marathon not a sprint. You could be 40 something years old and have 2 or 300k in your annuity, that's playing the long game.
They know the jobs are out there. Unfortunately schools have brain washed young adults into thinking they need a degree for everything. Since the mindset is can't do anything without a degree, they don't do anything other than basic entry level jobs because they think something with a little more of a skill level "requires" a degree or license of some sort, it doesn't. Schooling isn't a bad thing at all and will set those people that follow through ahead but there is a financial burden with that to overcome. Then there is learning on the job but you have to put in time (wait) and you have to earn it.I worked fast food in high school for spending money. When are folks gonna realize there's other positions and careers that they can pursue that will support them financially better? If the pay and conditions aren't working for you, find another option. That's what others do.
I saw that in California when I entered the construction work force in 2005 at the age of 15. Over the years until I left in 2018 maybe seen a dozen other young bloods come into the trades. Most people actively working are my parents age. Arizona has a lot of young blood working construction. There are the losers, the fucking idiots, crybabies, drunks, drug addicts, workhorses, laidback, and organized types. Probably hasn't been any different the past 60 years, just now you can see it from the palm of your hand rather than hear about it.No way we will get 20 year olds in construction anymore. No reason to bust their ass in the sun anymore.
That generation doesn't think long term, fast food
pay is fine with them until the become youtube famous.
Shit construction workers means shit construction. Stuff isn't getting build well ever again.
Maybe custom homes with reputable builder..maybe
$10 in 1990 equals 23 today when you factor in inflation.This isnt just about LA, I am in the Seattle area and Dicks Drive In is an equal to In-Out Burger in the PNW. I stopped at Dicks a couple of days ago and they had a sign in the window that said 21.00 an hour starting wage and 26.00 an hour after training. That is so hard for my old ass to comprehend. I worked for 3.25 an hour when I was 15 YO at Round Table Pizza, when I was an apprentice carpenter I was making less than 10.00 dollars an hour back in the early 90's. Fast food is a stepping stone job, should never be considered a position that supports one through life.
It all boils down to whether we have a free market or the libs keep effing with minimum wage.
That's one of the problems. It's in your hand.I saw that in California when I entered the construction work force in 2005 at the age of 15. Over the years until I left in 2018 maybe seen a dozen other young bloods come into the trades. Most people actively working are my parents age. Arizona has a lot of young blood working construction. There are the losers, the fucking idiots, crybabies, drunks, drug addicts, workhorses, laidback, and organized types. Probably hasn't been any different the past 60 years, just now you can see it from the palm of your hand rather than hear about it.
Hey 20 bucks is 20 bucksi tried but 20 bucks wouldnt work
What I meant was these days the thought is people are more lazy, helpless, and have more problems than the people of 40 to 60 years ago. These days it can be recorded and seen world wide. I bet todays work ethic, both good and bad, has been the same the past 60 years but 60 years ago it was tough to record it and post for the whole world to see, you only seen it in person or heard about it.That's one of the problems. It's in your hand.
Guy having a rough day at work, looks at phone. Guy having a great day at work, never stops producing.
When there was no cell, a rough day meant you got over it or your coworkers made sure you got over it.