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My 16 year old grandson started working at HEB a few weeks ago. It's his first job, and he has zero skills. Pay is $12.80/hr. He just texted me, said he's saving some of the money, and "it feels good getting that check every week 🐱"

This is who should be working in fast food and other starter jobs. People trying to make a living and feed a family need education, which the progressives have destroyed. If the left keeps it up, those jobs will disappear. There will be a few hundred thousand in LA alone that'll become unemployed.
 

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No way we will get 20 year olds in construction anymore. No reason to bust their ass in the sun anymore.
That generation doesn't think long term, fast food
pay is fine with them until the become youtube famous.

Shit construction workers means shit construction. Stuff isn't getting build well ever again.

Maybe custom homes with reputable builder..maybe

You're not wrong, the trades are aging out. Trades are still in high demand and all of us getting older are essentially going to be able to name our price so to speak.

I remain hopeful that will entice the younger generation to jump in.

Kind of the same thing you're saying. When we come up on negotiations and these youngsters scream and yell that they want to see the money on the check. I try to remind them that it's a marathon not a sprint. You could be 40 something years old and have 2 or 300k in your annuity, that's playing the long game.
 

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I was driving by a Carl’s Jr the other day and they had big signs on the windows and flags out front that said they take EBT. Made me wonder who’s buying that shit these days. Last time I went to McDonald’s it was really weird tasting, not the same crap they used to serve, this is different crap LOL It’s pretty rare that I’ll hit up a real fast food joint, that stuff makes me feel like shit these days, not sure if it’s me or what they are passing off as food? My guess is they have figured out a legal way to serve really poor quality stuff to humans.
 

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I always find it funny when Carls advertises their Angus burgers. Angus is the cow not the cut. What part of Angus do people think they are getting? It’s lips and assholes people!

I do remember when McDs advertised 100% Sirloin and that actually meant something.
 

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You're not wrong, the trades are aging out. Trades are still in high demand and all of us getting older are essentially going to be able to name our price so to speak.

I remain hopeful that will entice the younger generation to jump in.

Kind of the same thing you're saying. When we come up on negotiations and these youngsters scream and yell that they want to see the money on the check. I try to remind them that it's a marathon not a sprint. You could be 40 something years old and have 2 or 300k in your annuity, that's playing the long game.
Yep. Same thing happened during our contract negotiations. I would show the young guys how much my annuity was for retirement. I started at 25 cents a hour and ended at over $10. Just got my monthly deposit today. $$$$ 🙂
 

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Yep. Same thing happened during our contract negotiations. I would show the young guys how much my annuity was for retirement. I started at 25 cents a hour and ended at over $10. Just got my monthly deposit today. $$$$ 🙂

Can't touch mine at all, and don't plan on it either. When I keel over before my wife she'll be able to buy a badass boat.
 

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This isnt just about LA, I am in the Seattle area and Dicks Drive In is an equal to In-Out Burger in the PNW. I stopped at Dicks a couple of days ago and they had a sign in the window that said 21.00 an hour starting wage and 26.00 an hour after training. That is so hard for my old ass to comprehend. I worked for 3.25 an hour when I was 15 YO at Round Table Pizza, when I was an apprentice carpenter I was making less than 10.00 dollars an hour back in the early 90's. Fast food is a stepping stone job, should never be considered a position that supports one through life.
 

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Kind of the same thing you're saying. When we come up on negotiations and these youngsters scream and yell that they want to see the money on the check. I try to remind them that it's a marathon not a sprint. You could be 40 something years old and have 2 or 300k in your annuity, that's playing the long game.
This reminded me of conversations I had with a young apprentice almost 20 years ago. He worked for the union electrical firm I had under contract on a data center. It was a pretty good sized project.

He was a hard worker and trying to learn, doing well in his school and tech training. There were two journeymen on the crew he worked with, and they were filling his head with crap about the owners supposedly stealing their labor and driving them hard. These guys shirked their responsibilities and did shitty work. I'd known the owners and long time supers and foremen for several years, and it was all bullshit.

I took him aside and told him exactly what you're saying. I encouraged him to keep up in school, learn every day, and find mentors among the company's workforce to guide him. The IBEW in DFW is a good union, and if he stuck with it and became an asset to his employers, he would always be on good projects, make great money, and most importantly, retire with pension and benefits that would make his later years more than comfortable.

I also told him he was going to be working with complainers and malingerers his entire career, and he needed to stay the hell away from them. Those types are a cancer to both employers and employees. They can destroy a man's standing among his employers and union brothers.

I hope he took it to heart, is doing well, and on his way to a nice retirement.
 
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Worked a few different fast food jobs, and Dominos pizza was decent for a kid going through school. Worked all the hours I could.
After boat school, and working in Havasu, Dominos paid better.
Havasu economy tanked, and towing was next. Towing was more double Dominoes, and triple or more than boat repair.
Bought my own wrecker and never looked back.
Still fixing broken botes. (mine)

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I worked fast food in high school for spending money. When are folks gonna realize there's other positions and careers that they can pursue that will support them financially better? If the pay and conditions aren't working for you, find another option. That's what others do.
They know the jobs are out there. Unfortunately schools have brain washed young adults into thinking they need a degree for everything. Since the mindset is can't do anything without a degree, they don't do anything other than basic entry level jobs because they think something with a little more of a skill level "requires" a degree or license of some sort, it doesn't. Schooling isn't a bad thing at all and will set those people that follow through ahead but there is a financial burden with that to overcome. Then there is learning on the job but you have to put in time (wait) and you have to earn it.
 

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No way we will get 20 year olds in construction anymore. No reason to bust their ass in the sun anymore.
That generation doesn't think long term, fast food
pay is fine with them until the become youtube famous.

Shit construction workers means shit construction. Stuff isn't getting build well ever again.

Maybe custom homes with reputable builder..maybe
I saw that in California when I entered the construction work force in 2005 at the age of 15. Over the years until I left in 2018 maybe seen a dozen other young bloods come into the trades. Most people actively working are my parents age. Arizona has a lot of young blood working construction. There are the losers, the fucking idiots, crybabies, drunks, drug addicts, workhorses, laidback, and organized types. Probably hasn't been any different the past 60 years, just now you can see it from the palm of your hand rather than hear about it.
 

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This isnt just about LA, I am in the Seattle area and Dicks Drive In is an equal to In-Out Burger in the PNW. I stopped at Dicks a couple of days ago and they had a sign in the window that said 21.00 an hour starting wage and 26.00 an hour after training. That is so hard for my old ass to comprehend. I worked for 3.25 an hour when I was 15 YO at Round Table Pizza, when I was an apprentice carpenter I was making less than 10.00 dollars an hour back in the early 90's. Fast food is a stepping stone job, should never be considered a position that supports one through life.
$10 in 1990 equals 23 today when you factor in inflation.
 

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It all boils down to whether we have a free market or the libs keep effing with minimum wage.

Cry about affordable housing but do nothing about sky high permit costs / property taxes.

Health care for illegals $20 minimum wage for mindless occupations driver's license for illegals.

No wonder the border crossings look like lines at Disneyland.
 

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It all boils down to whether we have a free market or the libs keep effing with minimum wage.

Yep…the libs always have a new law to treat the symptom that makes the illness worse.

Intervene with the free market and it will create a multitude of problems that require another layer of misguided fixes.
 

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I saw that in California when I entered the construction work force in 2005 at the age of 15. Over the years until I left in 2018 maybe seen a dozen other young bloods come into the trades. Most people actively working are my parents age. Arizona has a lot of young blood working construction. There are the losers, the fucking idiots, crybabies, drunks, drug addicts, workhorses, laidback, and organized types. Probably hasn't been any different the past 60 years, just now you can see it from the palm of your hand rather than hear about it.
That's one of the problems. It's in your hand.
Guy having a rough day at work, looks at phone. Guy having a great day at work, never stops producing.

When there was no cell, a rough day meant you got over it or your coworkers made sure you got over it.
 

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That's one of the problems. It's in your hand.
Guy having a rough day at work, looks at phone. Guy having a great day at work, never stops producing.

When there was no cell, a rough day meant you got over it or your coworkers made sure you got over it.
What I meant was these days the thought is people are more lazy, helpless, and have more problems than the people of 40 to 60 years ago. These days it can be recorded and seen world wide. I bet todays work ethic, both good and bad, has been the same the past 60 years but 60 years ago it was tough to record it and post for the whole world to see, you only seen it in person or heard about it.
 
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