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My wife is in Vegas meeting with Terribles...
Hats are on sale for $80.
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Grand opening ceremony going on now

I think it’s broadcast on ESPN2
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Neal Schon is 69. I think he found some Tire Black in the pit area 😀
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I could not attend, bad knee this week. Wifey went with 2 friends from our condo. It was insane, the 30-minute ESPN was just part of it. Crazy food, like 200 drones in the sky, fireworks over the strip. Cost $750 per ticket$.

This is the 30 minute ESPN broadcast;
 

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Omg the comments on that youtube video are ruthless 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

"Completely exceeded my expectations, I thought it would be bad but they blew it out of the water, even the drivers looked embarrassed."

"Nothing screams the legacy of F1 like having Will. i. am chant "Let's go" over neon advertising for Heineken 0% at night in Las Vegas. Truly the watershed moment fans have waited 70 years for."

"Whats actually funny is the fact that the crowd noise is added in sfx so people think everyone is going crazy, you can literally hear the loop of the crowd screaming every time there was a team presented."

People are savage 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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Vegas is all about show and pizzaz, I guess that's what they are going for here too.

It's never gonna be a "classy" place like Monaco but I guess that's the point
 

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Vegas is all about show and pizzaz, I guess that's what they are going for here too.

It's never gonna be a "classy" place like Monaco but I guess that's the point

Monaco is genuinely terrible racing. I get the history of it, but with the size of cars..... I'm surprised the drivers don't complain about that race, or maybe it's just not as publicized as the crying about Vegas.
 

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Austin, TX was great this year. This LV deal will be like watching an Indy car race. The track is shit just like any street course.
 

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Monaco is genuinely terrible racing. I get the history of it, but with the size of cars..... I'm surprised the drivers don't complain about that race, or maybe it's just not as publicized as the crying about Vegas.

A lot of them live in Monaco.
 

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I just took these one of the photo shows a Tropicana in The Background that’s gonna be leveled in the next year or so and they’re going to build the baseball stadium. Other to show the strip view the paving is all done in the area for Formula One and you could see Harmon Avenue all the way to the paddock. They just haven’t finished the parking area of the paddock yet. it will be open all year round after the first race. Keep in mind it’s for tourism also and they have a 10 year commitment.
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You have a great pic of our swingstage on the west side of Elara!
 

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Its interesting to listen the drivers...some shitting on the pomp and circumstance... first thing, these big money deals feed their teams and their salaries directly... You want to see what they making in revenue if they were just racing SPA or Belgium...an absolute fraction of what the new races bring... That's like me telling my company...hey stop producing so many widgets cause you are cutting into my personal time to drive my Bugatti that was paid for by these races and the notoriety.
 

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Its interesting to listen the drivers...some shitting on the pomp and circumstance... first thing, these big money deals feed their teams and their salaries directly... You want to see what they making in revenue if they were just racing SPA or Belgium...an absolute fraction of what the new races bring... That's like me telling my company...hey stop producing so many widgets cause you are cutting into my personal time to drive my Bugatti that was paid for by these races and the notoriety.

Since the cost cap that came into effect last year, the teams have way less money to pay for all the avenues of the teams. Prior to the cap the big teams were spending ~500 million a year. that is now capped at 145 million.

They were making way more money in real dollars back in the early 2000s when cigarette advertising was still allowed and none of this fluff was part of the race.

in 2008 Toyota spent almost 500 million, in 2008 dollars, not in 2023 dollars.

in the early 2000's Schumacher was making nearly 100 million a year himself. Unheard of numbers by today's standards, and that's not even adjusting for inflation, that would be like 200 million today. He was worth over a billion dollars by the time of his accident


Now F1 the organization may be making a lot more money, but the teams and drivers are not compared to yesteryear.
 

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Since the cost cap that came into effect last year, the teams have way less money to pay for all the avenues of the teams. Prior to the cap the big teams were spending ~500 million a year. that is now capped at 145 million.

They were making way more money in real dollars back in the early 2000s when cigarette advertising was still allowed and none of this fluff was part of the race.

in 2008 Toyota spent almost 500 million, in 2008 dollars, not in 2023 dollars.

in the early 2000's Schumacher was making nearly 100 million a year himself. Unheard of numbers by today's standards, and that's not even adjusting for inflation, that would be like 200 million today. He was worth over a billion dollars by the time of his accident


Now F1 the organization may be making a lot more money, but the teams and drivers are not compared to yesteryear.
F1 viewership is down 8% year over year... they need races like Vegas and Miami to increase growth, viewership, ect.. if they don't increase revenue they will have more issues.... seasons with 1 driver dominating everything is boring...
 

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Since the cost cap that came into effect last year, the teams have way less money to pay for all the avenues of the teams. Prior to the cap the big teams were spending ~500 million a year. that is now capped at 145 million.

They were making way more money in real dollars back in the early 2000s when cigarette advertising was still allowed and none of this fluff was part of the race.

in 2008 Toyota spent almost 500 million, in 2008 dollars, not in 2023 dollars.

in the early 2000's Schumacher was making nearly 100 million a year himself. Unheard of numbers by today's standards, and that's not even adjusting for inflation, that would be like 200 million today. He was worth over a billion dollars by the time of his accident


Now F1 the organization may be making a lot more money, but the teams and drivers are not compared to yesteryear.
Thats fuckin' crazy! I watched the Netflix documentary on him. Sad that happened to him, too bad he's hidden from the public eye.
 

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F1 viewership is down 8% year over year... they need races like Vegas and Miami to increase growth, viewership, ect.. if they don't increase revenue they will have more issues.... seasons with 1 driver dominating everything is boring...
Who the F in America is going to watch this at 12:30 am? Lol Clearly they are catering to the EU viewers, who probably don’t care about a race in Vegas.
 

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Who the F in America is going to watch this at 12:30 am? Lol Clearly they are catering to the EU viewers, who probably don’t care about a race in Vegas.
Its not catering to Euro crowd... Look a the start times of Austin, Miami, Mex, Brazil... It has to do with when they can shut down the streets around Vegas without crippling the town... I will be watching...I think a late night race in Vegas is fitting for that town being a late night town... But I get it...lots of people go to bed early.
 

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Its not catering to Euro crowd... Look a the start times of Austin, Miami, Mex, Brazil... It has to do with when they can shut down the streets around Vegas without crippling the town... I will be watching...I think a late night race in Vegas is fitting for that town being a late night town... But I get it...lots of people go to bed early.

Is the track open to traffic right now? It’s 4:30 pm in the UK at 12:30 am in Vegas. Sure seems convenient to me….
 

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F1 viewership is down 8% year over year... they need races like Vegas and Miami to increase growth, viewership, ect.. if they don't increase revenue they will have more issues.... seasons with 1 driver dominating everything is boring...

They are trying an approach to appeal to people that aren't motorsports fans, but rather glitz and glamour.

All of this started with Liberty buying F1 from Ecclestone in 2017. Which many fans had high hopes that they would breath new life into the sport, They certainly did, but not in a way that those fans wanted 🤣

My opinion is that they are diluting the value of the actual sport by trying to forcibly couple it with this type of pop culture, and they are just creating a bunch of superficial fans that will quickly discard and trade it in for the next fad, not cultivating a generation of grass roots fans of the actual sport.. But only time will tell.

IMO it's really indicative of the decline of western culture. Where sport like F1 used to appeal to the technology, engineering, competition, and get people interested in those things. Now it is appealing to "Hey look at me" Celebrity worship society. The question is, is it the cause or just a symptom? In other words is the decline of the west happening because we have shifted pop culture in this direction, or is pop culture shifting in this direction because of the decline of society... I think it's both and they keep feeding off each other.
 

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I’m so important, I watch it when I want to watch it…..along with everyone else.
 

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Saturday night was the only real option for the global audience, the only timezones that are screwed are US central and eastern.

Uk and Europe are getting 6-8am Sunday viewing, Australia, NZ, get late afternoon Sunday viewing, middle east gets mid morning Sunday.

Vegas had to be a night race so it was really the only time that worked.

The bulk of the viewers are EU.
 

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Big money to watch from the 100th floor of these hotels and buildings. I just don’t get it 🤣🤷‍♂️. At least normal sporting events if you watch from the nose bleeds it’s like $10!

I’ll stick to tractor pulls, rodeos, desert trips and down to earth people 👊 .
 

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Man, ...... not a good start to the race weekend. 9 minutes into the first practice session and it’s red flagged for issues with the track! They had an access cover come lose on the track and damage two cars. A Ferrari And an Alpine. Hope they get the problem fixed.
 

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Wow. Ferrari had a rough night. Imagine totaling a car because you hit a manhole cover. Looks like somebody sucked the thing right out of the ground and then Ferrari hit it. On top of that they get assessed at 10 grid, penalty.
Ouch
 

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If the penalty is for the chassis change, I hope they appeal it. That’s not right at all.
 
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