Ethanol Free Gas at Campbell

[Dirtbag]

Campbell has a special pump off to the side that claims to be for Boats and OHV. The gas has no ethanol and is $1 more than the normal pump. Ive been trying to read up on this ethanol free and it seems Mercury would recommend it? Am i wrong? I put 20 gallons in last week in the boat and the boat ran fine. Im just wondering what is right over the longhaul. If it saves me on hoses and maintanence costs im all for it. One thing my stupid ass didnt notice was the octane level. Our merc 600 runs on 87....what would you guys do? Not give a shit? Or run ethanol free if you could?

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

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http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157471

 

[Flynryan]

Not an expert by any means but I would rather run the ethanol free so it wouldnt gum up my jets in my carb (you are probably injected). I buy the premixed gas in the can from Lowes for my 2 stroke edger and leaf blower so it doesnt eat all my lines and fittings. The stuff in the can is ethanol free too

 

[Flying_Lavey]

It's been discussed a lot on here, but yes. Avoid ethanol if at all possible. It absorbs water and eats up most seals and hoses that are not designed specifically for ethenol.

 

[Rotten deal]

I would if I could find it.

 

[AZBrummett21]

This is great news. We stop by Parker oil to get ethanol free on the way to Campbell cove but now we can make one stop.

My Old Brummett has glass tanks and can't use gas with ethanol.

 

[ductape1000]

I would check with your builder and see if they run ethanol safe lines. If so, I would only worry about spending the extra $$ near the end of the season since it is better for storage.

 

[Taboma]

Here's the article they ran in the Havasu Hearld regarding this bio-fuel

http://www.havasunews.com/news/hava...cle_074f78a0-9108-11e6-99f1-9b4a49a060d3.html

 

[Dirtbag]

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http://www.riverdavesplace.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157471

i already read that.....doesnt say what people are doing....also its not about storing the boat...im talking about everyday use. Does it make sense to only put this fuel in your boat....

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

i already read that.....doesnt say what people are doing....

From what I've seen everybody stops at the regular gas station and just fills up with normal gas unless you're running some crazy blower motor or something then they go to Parker oil or the Chevron station that sells Avgas.

Not worth it in my opinion to run ethanol free during the regular season since you go through it so fast.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

You have a brand new boat. If the hoses, fuel pumps etc. were not designed and speced for e10 fuel, you have bigger problems. Mercury knows that ethanol blended fuels are nearly unavoidable, as does Shockwave I would hope.

Fill it up and run it. If you store it more than 2-3 months dump in fuel stabilizer. If it were me I'd run 91 whenever possible anyway.

If you had a 20+ year old boat with old fuel hoses, pumps, etc. you might need to be concerned.

 

[Dirtbag]

You have a brand new boat. If the hoses, fuel pumps etc. were not designed and speced for e10 fuel, you have bigger problems.

If you had a 20+ year old boat with old fuel hoses, pumps, etc. you might need to be concerned.

maybe my question is worded wrong....

Should we only use this fuel? Or is the normal pump gas ok? Im talking for the longevity of everything and how the motor runs....its obviously newer technology since it just showed up at campbell...

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

maybe my question is worded wrong....

Should we only use this fuel? Or is the normal pump gas ok? Im talking for the longevity of everything and how the motor runs....its obviously newer technology since it just showed up at campbell...

There is nothing new about ethanol free fuel. The fuel itself is fine for you to run. Given you are running factory Merc power I would not pay more to run it. You are better off spending .30 more per gallon for ethanol blended 91 from the standard pumps.

 

[OldSchoolBoats]

maybe my question is worded wrong....

Should we only use this fuel? Or is the normal pump gas ok? Im talking for the longevity of everything and how the motor runs....its obviously newer technology since it just showed up at campbell...

No you should not only use that fuel....It's a waste of money.

Campbell Cove has had it for about a year now.

Worth it to run it at the end of the season before storing IMO.

 

[milkmoney]

In okthefucklahoma we have the same gas.
They call it 100%..... It's at jus about every gas station and it's a few pennies higher , like maybe .30 cents. A lot of people here use it in their vehicles and swear by it.

I think it is definitely worth putting in ur boat , ethanol free. [emoji202][emoji41]

 

[Taboma]

Curious, when many of you are talking Ethanol Free gasoline, are you referencing this particular type of Bio-Fuel or just ole fashioned straight gasoline ? This is 91 Octane.

Campbell Cove 1-Stop is now offering isobutanol ? a corn-derived biofuel that claims to offer about 30 percent more energy content than ethanol while remaining environmentally sustainable. The fuel also differs from ethanol-based biofuel in that it doesn?t absorb moisture or create excess pressure, which can otherwise lead to long-term engine damage.

This is a good thing ----

The new biofuel was approved in June 2015 by the National Marine Manufacturers Association as a drop-in fuel for marine and recreational boat engines.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Curious, when many of you are talking Ethanol Free gasoline, are you referencing this particular type of Bio-Fuel or just ole fashioned straight gasoline ? This is 91 Octane.

Campbell Cove 1-Stop is now offering isobutanol ? a corn-derived biofuel that claims to offer about 30 percent more energy content than ethanol while remaining environmentally sustainable. The fuel also differs from ethanol-based biofuel in that it doesn?t absorb moisture or create excess pressure, which can otherwise lead to long-term engine damage.

This is a good thing ----

The new biofuel was approved in June 2015 by the National Marine Manufacturers Association as a drop-in fuel for marine and recreational boat engines.

That is correct, but you'll have a hard time convincing me that spending extra money to the tune of $1 more per gallon for fuel is worth it when my engine is designed for and the manufacturer has recommended to run the lowest common denominator horse piss fuel you can get.

If we are talking about fuel for storage, that might be debatable. But if you are storing your boat in Havasu, you should be fine with simple fuel stabilizer in the tank over winter.

 

[Ouderkirk]

Campbell has a special pump off to the side that claims to be for Boats and OHV. The gas has no ethanol and is $1 more than the normal pump. Ive been trying to read up on this ethanol free and it seems Mercury would recommend it? Am i wrong? I put 20 gallons in last week in the boat and the boat ran fine. Im just wondering what is right over the longhaul. If it saves me on hoses and maintanence costs im all for it. One thing my stupid ass didnt notice was the octane level. Our merc 600 runs on 87....what would you guys do? Not give a shit? Or run ethanol free if you could?

I run the ethanol free 91 octane stuff even in my car.

In Arizona, or the desert in general, I don't see the ethanol absorbing water being a problem there so you can take that off the table, though with high humidity like here, it matters.

The ethanol blended has about 12% less BTU's in it versus non-ethanol at the same octane level. So per unit volume you'll get less power out of the alky stuff.

I like running 91 octane in my boat even though Merc says 87 is fine. Just a psychological thing.

 

[ACS]

There is no way I would run that in your boat. Spend the saved money or regular 87 octane gas(and beer) that Mercury recommends. Perhaps if it was the last run of the season it would be justified.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I'd think with a nice new setup like that just stick with what Merc recommends. I remember in 2002 my good buddy bought a new cat with an HP500 and was putting 91 in it. Transom was covered with 3x the soot cause' it was supposed to run on 87.

More octane does not make your engine run significantly more rich. Octane does not effect air fuel ratios.

 

[W.O.T. Marine]

The last test report I heard that Mercury ran was testing some new E 15 blends there's talk of. I believe they were running a Verado on a long Dyno run, and it would not even make it through the test without burning up some valves that they attribute to high temperature coming from the E 15.

I recommend our customers to use an ethanol treatment like Lucas or Starbright each fill up.

Personally I only will run ethanol free in my outboard, yeah it's a little expensive but it's worth the peace of mind especially when I'm spinning higher RPM. In my nautique I'm not so worried about. Just a basic TBI motor

Ethanol in outboards is a real big no-no.

Also if you have a MerCruiser with a fuel cool module mounted on the starboard side of the motor I would recommend checking the fuel pressure regulator. It is very common to see paint chips plug up the regulator and cause fuel related running condition issues.

I hope this helps