Electric panel needed

[NicPaus]

With all the electricians on here figured I would ask.

I tried Walter's electric and they said they could order it but 6-7 month lead time.

I have a job that will be getting solar. What I need is a main panel with meter socket. 200 amp. Flush mount. Overhead feed. With a 200 amp breaker. No other breaker spaces. And small as possible. The load centers will be located elsewhere by the batteries. This goes on front corner of the house.

Seems like this would be commonly used with all the new builds getting solar. They have surface mount in stock for $1730. Which seems crazy high.

I could also use 2. 100 amp exterior flush mount load centers with bottom feed. These they could not get. And the last one I had to use a interior load center with a shanty.

With all the ADUs these would be a in demand product as I need 3 this year alone.

Any leads on where to buy would be appreciated.

 

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

You can use the surface mount with a flush mount kit. Factory or DIY.
Agreed, that's crazy $$.

 

[SHOCKtheMONKEY]

@hallett21

 

[NicPaus]

You can use the surface mount with a flush mount kit. Factory or DIY.
Agreed, that's crazy $$.

Yeah. I was going to just custom semi flush mount it. Then he told me the price.

 

[rrrr]

Is there enough real estate for a separate meter socket and 200 amp MCB?

 

[Rbcconst]

Have you tried Ebay? We ran into a similar issue last year and redesigned based on available equipment. I believe we needed a dual 200amp panel, 1 was just a meter socket for the front house and the other was a 200amp for the ADU. Edision said we arent giving you 400amps anyway so we redesigned.

 

[hallett21]

Maybe I’m overthinking it?

Any semi flush mount 200amp main should work?

Siemens are usually in stock. 14” stud bay opening and you need 40ish inches of vertical space.

PowerMark Gold 200 Amp 20-Space 40-Circuit Ring-Type Overhead/Underground Combination Load Center

 

[hallett21]

Amazon.com

 

[rrrr]

Maybe I’m overthinking it?

Any semi flush mount 200amp main should work?

Siemens are usually in stock. 14” stud bay opening and you need 40ish inches of vertical space.

PowerMark Gold 200 Amp 20-Space 40-Circuit Ring-Type Overhead/Underground Combination Load Center

The OP specifically stated he doesn't want a combination MCB and load center.

 

[NicPaus]

What is there is exactly what I need in 200amp it's only 100 amp. The load center below gets eliminated and a new one goes closer to the solar equipment out of sight.

 

[hallett21]

What is there is exactly what I need in 200amp it's only 100 amp. The load center below gets eliminated and a new one goes closer to the solar equipment out of sight. View attachment 1450066

What’s in the box below? What’s the height of the top of the current panel?

 

[NicPaus]

What’s in the box below? What’s the height of the top of the current panel?

Load center. 6'6" top of panel. Edison says 4' to 6'3" meter height for new.

 

[ChumpChange]

What’s in the box below? What’s the height of the top of the current panel?

 

[wishiknew]

get a 200 amp panel at Home Depot the get a lug kit that plugs on to the buss bars then use the main for overload protection just be sure to feed the other sub panel with 200 amp rated wire you can buy the lug kit at Walter’s

 

[rrrr]

What’s in the box below? What’s the height of the top of the current panel?

That's a NEMA 3W enclosure. Wood.

 

[wishiknew]

Use a Siemens panel MC2040B1200F and Siemens lug kit ECLK 225

 

[wishiknew]

Maybe I’m overthinking it?

Any semi flush mount 200amp main should work?

Siemens are usually in stock. 14” stud bay opening and you need 40ish inches of vertical space.

PowerMark Gold 200 Amp 20-Space 40-Circuit Ring-Type Overhead/Underground Combination Load Center

You need to use a panel that does not have a split buss as you can only get 100 amps out of the top buss or the bottom buss the only one I know of is over head only panel good to have you back

 

[Emac]

would either of these work for you?

Eaton BR 200 Amp Outdoor Residential Meter Breaker (MBB200BTS) MBB200BTS - The Home Depot

Upgrade your electrical application with the help of this Eaton BR Type Main Meter Breaker Load Center Panel.

www.homedepot.com

https://www.1sourcedist.com/product/detail/1964760/eaton-b-line-u267?utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=shopping%20feed&utm_content=free%20google%20shopping%20clicks&gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqbjwk7XciQMV9C1ECB3dsBFJEAQYAyABEgJH8fD_BwE

 

[NicPaus]

I saw those last night. Surface mount with no flush mount kit available.

The homeowner has a friend that used to do solar saying his Walter's sales rep has what we need. Waiting to see. My Walter guy has been there 20 years and knows his shit.

 

[yz450mm]

@WYRD

 

[WYRD]

@WYRD

I saw those last night. Surface mount with no flush mount kit available.

The homeowner has a friend that used to do solar saying his Walter's sales rep has what we need. Waiting to see. My Walter guy has been there 20 years and knows his shit. View attachment 1450370

I can have you a MBB200BTF on Monday morning $400
The F is for semi-flush

Let me know if you want me to order it

 

[NicPaus]

Waiting on customer friend. But that is what we need. I just can't find a picture or reference when Google it. Thanks Wyrd I will keep you posted.

 

[boatnam2]

Waiting on customer friend. But that is what we need. I just can't find a picture or reference when Google it. Thanks Wyrd I will keep you posted.

Been playing gold a lot with an electrical contractor, i can ask him, what exactly do you need in laymen's terms lol, text me before 8am and I can ask this morning.

 

[NicPaus]

Been playing gold a lot with an electrical contractor, i can ask him, what exactly do you need in laymen's terms lol, text me before 8am and I can ask this morning.

Shit it's 801. Got home at 11pm. Working late everyday still. Wyrd posted what we need. Main electrical panel with meter head thar only has room for 1 200 amp breaker. Must be flush mount.

 

[WYRD]

Shit it's 801. Got home at 11pm. Working late everyday still. Wyrd posted what we need. Main electrical panel with meter head thar only has room for 1 200 amp breaker. Must be flush mount.

I have it sitting in my office now if you need it

 

[WYRD]

@NicPaus did you find the panel you needed?

 

[NicPaus]

No. Was at that job last night and he called his electrician buddy. He referenced several that have load centers connected. He couldn't grasp the fact we just wanted a meter head and 1 breaker for size and looks. Then he claimed my Walter's guy is clueless. Which I replied then find me the panel.

I referenced the Mbb200btf. And had to look back at the box you posted. He pulled up the mbeb200btf and showed the picture. It has a load center connected I should of zoomed in.

What we want would be the mbb200bts in a btf so it's flush mount or semi flush. He is calling his contacts at main electrical and Walter's today.

I can't believe it's not a common panel with solar required on all new builds. Just like they don't make a exterior load center that would be common on the thousands of ADUs being built. These panel manufacturers are missing a huge market and making it difficult.

I am going to that job again today. Was trying to get everything installed for inspection so I can wrap the exterior. Got the solar array figured out on the roof and ready to order shingles today. Got a change on the bathroom faucets to wall mount and a few other changes to keep us busy for today. Hopefully they can source the correct panel.

 

[WYRD]

No. Was at that job last night and he called his electrician buddy. He referenced several that have load centers connected. He couldn't grasp the fact we just wanted a meter head and 1 breaker for size and looks. Then he claimed my Walter's guy is clueless. Which I replied then find me the panel.

I referenced the Mbb200btf. And had to look back at the box you posted. He pulled up the mbeb200btf and showed the picture. It has a load center connected I should of zoomed in.

What we want would be the mbb200bts in a btf so it's flush mount or semi flush. He is calling his contacts at main electrical and Walter's today.

I can't believe it's not a common panel with solar required on all new builds. Just like they don't make a exterior load center that would be common on the thousands of ADUs being built. These panel manufacturers are missing a huge market and making it difficult.

I am going to that job again today. Was trying to get everything installed for inspection so I can wrap the exterior. Got the solar array figured out on the roof and ready to order shingles today. Got a change on the bathroom faucets to wall mount and a few other changes to keep us busy for today. Hopefully they can source the correct panel.

Still have mine available if you need it. It's here and I think it's exactly what you need. I'm located in San Bernardino.

 

[NicPaus]

Still have mine available if you need it. It's here and I think it's exactly what you need. I'm located in San Bernardino.

The BEB has load center attached to it.

 

[hallett21]

No. Was at that job last night and he called his electrician buddy. He referenced several that have load centers connected. He couldn't grasp the fact we just wanted a meter head and 1 breaker for size and looks. Then he claimed my Walter's guy is clueless. Which I replied then find me the panel.

I referenced the Mbb200btf. And had to look back at the box you posted. He pulled up the mbeb200btf and showed the picture. It has a load center connected I should of zoomed in.

What we want would be the mbb200bts in a btf so it's flush mount or semi flush. He is calling his contacts at main electrical and Walter's today.

I can't believe it's not a common panel with solar required on all new builds. Just like they don't make a exterior load center that would be common on the thousands of ADUs being built. These panel manufacturers are missing a huge market and making it difficult.

I am going to that job again today. Was trying to get everything installed for inspection so I can wrap the exterior. Got the solar array figured out on the roof and ready to order shingles today. Got a change on the bathroom faucets to wall mount and a few other changes to keep us busy for today. Hopefully they can source the correct panel.

Is the customer that picky about the main panel being small?

 

[NicPaus]

What were working with is Edison spotted the meter head and riser on front of the house. House gets solar.

The solar has a controller, big j box and critical load center. The other load center they want in the garage not far from the solar equipment and the batteries are on backside of garage close to controller and critical load center.

There will be only one 200 amp main breaker at meter location. And 1 Solar disconnect below it. The solar disconnect has its own box.

They have solar on the back house and it is unsightly to look at but out of sight. So trying to match the back house. My first time setting it all up. It's way easier than I thought. Except getting the panels that will make it look the way I want it.

I appreciate all the help.

 

[NicPaus]

Is the customer that picky about the main panel being small?

I am. My name is going on it.

But yes he is also. He worked with me for a few years. Now does low voltage design and computer stuff.

It's the first thing you see when you pull in the driveway.

It's crazy to me they don't make it. With solar being a requirement on new construction. I would think it would be the most commonly used panel. Crazy how bulky and ugly the solar stuff is. Would never want it in view.

 

[WYRD]

Okay so here is the scoop. The mbb is only available in a surface mount option 14 in wide 25 in high. The beb is a meter with a 200 amp breaker no distribution. Overall dimensions on that as a semi flush is 14 in wide 28 in tall.

 

[WYRD]

BEB Version