eject!

[retaocleg]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603466654704406530

 

[MV Mike]

He could of saved it

 

[Orange Juice]

He could of saved it

Looks like a nose gear collapse. Probably a lot to learn from that incident.

 

[CLdrinker]

Sounds like he couldn’t get it shut down.

I think I would have ejected as well.

Riding a her with a stuck throttle bouncing around on the ground can have bad outcomes.

Wonder how much that just cost us lol

 

[f12517]

Wonder how much that just cost us lol

about 101.3 million

F-35 to get more expensive in next deal, program exec says - Breaking Defense

“I think it's likely that we'll see costs rise on a tail by tail basis. I think it's early to say where I think that they'll end up,” said Lt. Gen. Eric Fick, who manages the F-35 program on behalf of the Pentagon.

breakingdefense.com

 

[RiverDave]

That’s some solid driving right there

 

[FreeBird236]

I didn't even know F-35's could land like that.

 

[Racey]

What do you expect for 1 Trillion dollars and 25 years in development... Perfection?

 

[bonesfab]

So many issues with the swiss army knives of planes. They should have stuck with the F22.

 

[boatpi]

In the end, it looks like he and the aircraft might’ve made it, but he wasn’t gonna stick around to find out.

 

[Racey]

So many issues with the swiss army knives of planes. They should have stuck with the F22.

For those that don't know who this is, this man was a key player in the development of the f-16, and basically ran the development of the A-10.

Pierre Sprey - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Bear Down]

Don't Think....DO...

 

[HNL2LHC]

Fitting parachute when things go ”tits up”

 

[SBMech]

Pilot looked pretty floppy in the air after ejection...I am thinking massive stroke or heart attack ala forced jab syndrome....

 

[stokerwhore]

this woulda fixed it

 

[traquer]

Those planes are badass. I hope the pilot is ok! His call sign will be Bounce House after this

 

[Hypnautic]

Looks like a nose gear collapse. Probably a lot to learn from that incident.

Nose gear collapsed after he taco'd it.
Plane came to rest pretty quick after he bailed out--definitely some pilot error IMO.
But glad he is ok.
Sorry but he'll be "flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong" now.

 

[Orange Juice]

Nose gear collapsed after he taco'd it.
Plane came to rest pretty quick after he bailed out--definitely some pilot error IMO.
But glad he is ok.
Sorry but he'll be "flying a cargo plane full of rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong" now.

He’ll be on a book tour “ first to eject from an F-35B”

 

[retaocleg]

swiss army knife pentagon procurement was the basis for a movie/comedy.......sad how true it is and based on real events, glad they got it sorted

 

[CoolCruzin]

No reason to eject.
But I know shit about this .
Maybe why not .

 

[srttruck]

Has anyone here dissing these birds even sat in one? Better question, have you flipped down the visor screen and had a look? Yes an f-16 will out fly a f-35 no questions asked thats simple. However an f-35 will pluck it outta the air before the 16 knows what's up.

 

[bonesfab]

Has anyone here dissing these birds even sat in one? Better question, have you flipped down the visor screen and had a look? Yes an f-16 will out fly a f-35 no questions asked thats simple. However an f-35 will pluck it outta the air before the 16 knows what's up.

If the f35 stays in the air.

 

[OLDRAAT]

It's Russian Roulette with low level ejection. Hope he recovers quickly

 

[86403]

Lockheed production test. Pilot walked away. No injuries.

 

[Racey]

Has anyone here dissing these birds even sat in one? Better question, have you flipped down the visor screen and had a look? Yes an f-16 will out fly a f-35 no questions asked thats simple. However an f-35 will pluck it outta the air before the 16 knows what's up.

So can a drone, or a submarine with a rocket, etc etc.

 

[srttruck]

So can a drone, or a submarine with a rocket, etc etc.

What rocket would the sub deploy if lets say their over lake vivi?

 

[Racey]

What rocket would the sub deploy if lets say their over lake vivi?

Doesn't have to be a sub, i just gave you an alternative, there are plenty of other assets to get deep strikes....

The issue with the F35 is the cost and trying to fulfill too many roles making too many trade offs and too much complexity. The program has become a joke if you compare where it is now, to what was promised originally.

 

[DirtyWhiteDog]

Seeing that its Monday, looked like he couldn't get it to shut down with any normal procedures, so ejected to activate the ultimate kill switch.
My dad was an aircraft mechanic and I've been passively looking at planes for over 50 years.

 

[bonesfab]

Did Toyota develop the throttle control??

 

[DRYHEAT]

Did Toyota develop the throttle control??

Floormat got stuck?

 

[grumpy88]

Luckily the plane did not go up in flames . Looked like he landed awfully close to what he was trying to get the hell away from .

 

[srttruck]

Doesn't have to be a sub, i just gave you an alternative, there are plenty of other assets to get deep strikes....

The issue with the F35 is the cost and trying to fulfill too many roles making too many trade offs and too much complexity. The program has become a joke if you compare where it is now, to what was promised originally.

Didn't you state a submarine though? What other examples do you have to get "assets to get deep strikes" in this scenario?
Reading the second part of your post, I'm not sure you know the technological capabilities of the plane, or systems in place. Why do you believe the program is a joke?

 

[Racey]

Didn't you state a submarine though? What other examples do you have to get "assets to get deep strikes" in this scenario?
Reading the second part of your post, I'm not sure you know the technological capabilities of the plane, or systems in place. Why do you believe the program is a joke?

I stated drones also but you seem to ignore that, on top of existing missles, existing long range stealth bombers, existing conventional bombers.

The program is a joke because it's run on for 25 years before delivering an aircraft and cost more than 1 Trillion dollars, ridiculously behind schedule and ridiculously over budget. It never would have been approved for that cost and timeline. It never would have been approved at half the price and half the timeline.

 

[Racey]

No reason to eject.
But I know shit about this .
Maybe why not .

Not necessarily, in an event like that it only takes one fuel leak to go from a mild incident to instantly burning alive.

 

[srttruck]

I stated drones also but you seem to ignore that, on top of existing missles, existing long range stealth bombers, existing conventional bombers.

The program is a joke because it's run on for 25 years before delivering an aircraft and cost more than 1 Trillion dollars, ridiculously behind schedule and ridiculously over budget. It never would have been approved for that cost and timeline. It never would have been approved at half the price and half the timeline.

A drone will not take out a 35 period. What other "existing missles, existing long range stealth bombers, existing conventional bombers" from another country will take out a 35?
I'm not here to agure with you but most people have no clue on the tech this "ridiculously over budget" plane has. How much did the B2 project cost in whole before it took flight? Or B21 if you wana go there. Let's go back to f22, there's a reason why it was superceded so quick.

 

[Racey]

A drone will not take out a 35 period. What other "existing missles, existing long range stealth bombers, existing conventional bombers" from another country will take out a 35?
I'm not here to agure with you but most people have no clue on the tech this "ridiculously over budget" plane has. How much did the B2 project cost in whole before it took flight? Or B21 if you wana go there. Let's go back to f22, there's a reason why it was superceded so quick.

I said a drone fired rocket or a land/sea rocket could take out an f16, you don't need an f35 to do that. Then you asked about making a deep strike at a lake in central russia, can be done with drones, bombers, sea fired missles etc.

You're such the expert why don't you educate all of us one what a trillion dollars and 25 years got us that can't be done by any other asset in the military l's toolbelt

 

[srttruck]

I said a drone fired rocket or a land/sea rocket could take out an f16, you don't need an f35 to do that. Then you asked about making a deep strike at a lake in central russia, can be done with drones, bombers, sea fired missles etc.

You're such the expert why don't you educate all of us one what a trillion dollars and 25 years got us that can't be done by any other asset in the military l's toolbelt

Yore a liar. Where did you state this? "I said a drone fired rocket or a land/sea rocket could take out an f16, you don't need an f35 to do that." Please advise if you did state that, but pretty sure looking though the post I didn't see that above in these 36 post.

Edit, after this idiotic response no need to further waste time continuing with engagement of subject with you.

 

[RVR SWPR]

Damage was done before he bailed. No doubt that pilot did all he could to bring that plane down. WTF,you guys do not realize something was really going wrong for that guy.
We sit here doing nothing about billions & billions going to a fucked up war in Ukraine @ same time criticize a trained pilot whose instincts and training told him to eject.
Pilot was in the seat not watching a video. Awesome he survived ejecting at that altitude.

 

[CLdrinker]

I stated drones also but you seem to ignore that, on top of existing missles, existing long range stealth bombers, existing conventional bombers.

The program is a joke because it's run on for 25 years before delivering an aircraft and cost more than 1 Trillion dollars, ridiculously behind schedule and ridiculously over budget. It never would have been approved for that cost and timeline. It never would have been approved at half the price and half the timeline.

Let me show you this bridge being built in California....

 

[CLdrinker]

Why do the know it all’s always have to argue with people that we could learn something from and run them off.

Some of you guys literally think you know everything. Maybe take a step back and realize there might be someone here that knows more about a subject than you.

 

[srttruck]

Why do the know it all’s always have to argue with people that we could learn something from and run them off.

Some of you guys literally think you know everything. Maybe take a step back and realize there might be someone here that knows more about a subject than you.

Winner winner chicken dinner! I'm always up for an educational lesson!.

 

[lbhsbz]

Mavrick woulda rode outta the cockpit on his motorcycle.

 

[srttruck]

Mavrick woulda rode outta the cockpit on his motorcycle.

According to @Racey (the liar) how the budget and overspending is a joke on the J-35 platform, it's probably Debo on his stolen bike squeaking outta that cockpit.

 

[Racey]

Yore a liar. Where did you state this? "I said a drone fired rocket or a land/sea rocket could take out an f16, you don't need an f35 to do that." Please advise if you did state that, but pretty sure looking though the post I didn't see that above in these 36 post.

Edit, after this idiotic response no need to further waste time continuing with engagement of subject with you.

Right here (please read the bold, before name calling 'liar')

Has anyone here dissing these birds even sat in one? Better question, have you flipped down the visor screen and had a look? Yes an f-16 will out fly a f-35 no questions asked thats simple. However an f-35 will pluck it outta the air before the 16 knows what's up.

My reply

So can a drone, or a submarine with a rocket, etc etc.

So i don't know what you are talking about at this point. Don't get your panties in a wad....

A trillion dollars, that is 1/30 of the entire national debt, for a single airframe.

Yeah that's a joke as far as I'm concerned. So much waste in that program. Don't take my word for it, i'm just relaying Pierre Sprey, a guy that helped design the F-16 and was even more integral in the design of the A-10, two of the most successful platforms we have.

My beef isn't with pilots.

Like i said, please educate us on what this Trillion dollars has accomplished.... I'm all ears, because as to date nobody has really shown anything mind blowing for a Trillion dollars and 25 years of development that is now mostly outdated as we see the rise of unmanned operations.

 

[Not_Tonto]

Anyways… the guy almost got two swings under canopy. So that’s good news. By the looks/sounds of how it transpired, clearly a thrust issue. After initial contact it’s very probable that something could have come loose causing it to spool up and throw the nose down.

As for the F-16/F-35 discussion, you’d be surprised at just who would truly win in a fight. While the fifth gen fighters are cool and fancy, the 35 and the 22 have major issues in talking to entities beyond voice comms. Hell, the two can’t even talk over data link to each other.

Prime reason why the Air Force is retiring the F-22’s and bring online the new F-15EX.

 

[Not_Tonto]

Right here (please read the bold, before name calling 'liar')

My reply


So i don't know what you are talking about at this point. Don't get your panties in a wad....

A trillion dollars, that is 1/30 of the entire national debt, for a single airframe.

Yeah that's a joke as far as I'm concerned. So much waste in that program. Don't take my word for it, i'm just relaying Pierre Sprey, a guy that helped design the F-16 and was even more integral in the design of the A-10, two of the most successful platforms we have.

My beef isn't with pilots.

Like i said, please educate us on what this Trillion dollars has accomplished.... I'm all ears, because as to date nobody has really shown anything mind blowing for a Trillion dollars and 25 years of development that is now mostly outdated as we see the rise of unmanned operations.

Just to your last bit sir, outdated is a misnomer. Our aircraft go through constant block upgrades to stay relevant. Realistically all we truly need to accomplish, and are doing well at it, is staying ahead of our near peer adversaries.

 

[Racey]

Just to your last bit sir, outdated is a misnomer. Our aircraft go through constant block upgrades to stay relevant. Realistically all we truly need to accomplish, and are doing well at it, is staying ahead of our near peer adversaries.

I agree with that, but from the time the f35 was incepted, to when it was meant to be delivered, to now when it has actually enterrd operation, we have had the rise of unmanned vehicles that were unimagined in '95, but sae their huge rise in the iraq/afghan theater before the f35 flew, and became a dominant force from that time till now. The f35 will probably be the last manned fighter.

If the f35 had of been delivered by it's initial deadline there would have been a fair argument. But 10 years past that deadline into drones it all of a sudden looks like quite a wasted effort for the immense costs.

I mean the SLS rocket that took 10+ years and 25 billion is laughable in it's technology compared to what SpaceX accomplished in the same time frame with far less money. And the F35 program could pay for the SLS program 40 times over

 

[Not_Tonto]

I agree with that, but from the time the f35 was incepted, to when it was meant to be delivered, to now when it has actually enterrd operation, we have had the rise of unmanned vehicles that were unimagined in '95, but sae their huge rise in the iraq/afghan theater before the f35 flew, and became a dominant force from that time till now. The f35 will probably be the last manned fighter.

If the f35 had of been delivered by it's initial deadline there would have been a fair argument. But 10 years past that deadline into drones it all of a sudden looks like quite a wasted effort for the immense costs.

I mean the SLS rocket that took 10+ years and 25 billion is laughable in it's technology compared to what SpaceX accomplished in the same time frame with far less money. And the F35 program could pay for the SLS program 40 times over

Albeit true during OIF/OEF, our RPA program is shrinking exponentially. Leadership is seeing first hand the value of manned aircraft and the training it takes to operate them in their fullest capacities since the Ukraine/Russia conflict popped off.

The acquisition process for the DoD is fucked six ways to Sunday. And our government allows companies like Boeing, Lockheed, Sikorsky, and so on to increase the costs of their products so that they can sit as a board member when they retire. It’s sickening. But that’s why you have those issues.

 

[spectra3279]

Right here (please read the bold, before name calling 'liar')

My reply


So i don't know what you are talking about at this point. Don't get your panties in a wad....

A trillion dollars, that is 1/30 of the entire national debt, for a single airframe.

Yeah that's a joke as far as I'm concerned. So much waste in that program. Don't take my word for it, i'm just relaying Pierre Sprey, a guy that helped design the F-16 and was even more integral in the design of the A-10, two of the most successful platforms we have.

My beef isn't with pilots.

Like i said, please educate us on what this Trillion dollars has accomplished.... I'm all ears, because as to date nobody has really shown anything mind blowing for a Trillion dollars and 25 years of development that is now mostly outdated as we see the rise of unmanned operations.

This plan is the airforce Bradley tank/armored personnel carrier. To many jobs, to much money, to little ordinance. Good at many things but not great at any one thing.

And ya don't have to be a dick because you believe different.

Not aimed at you racey

 

[Racey]

This plan is the airforce Bradley tank/armored personnel carrier. To many jobs, to much money, to little ordinance. Good at many things but not great at any one thing.

And ya don't have to be a dick because you believe different.

Not aimed at you racey

Exactly, absolutely there is a ton of technology in the plane, but there ought to be for that long of a development timeline, and more than a Trillion dollars spent so far. That is absolutely insane to think about, a trillion dollars....

I mean it's hard to fathom just how much money that is.... The Ford Class Aircraft Carrier program has had a total program budget of under 40 billion.... To develop the newest greatest aircraft carrier, a floating city with nuclear reactor power that houses thousands of seamen for months and months without resupply.

40 billion, That is just 0.040 trillion or 4%.

Like 77 said, the acquisition/procurement at DoD has become a poison piggy bank, and the f35 is the most egregious example.