Dry rivers and lakes are upon us.

[02HoWaRd26]

Hope it’s not a repeat.

EXPLAINER: Western states face first federal water cuts

U.S. officials on Monday declared the first-ever water shortage from a river that serves 40 million people in the West, triggering cuts to some Arizona farmers next year amid a gripping drought. Water levels at the largest reservoir on the Colorado River — Lake Mead — have fallen to record...

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[02HoWaRd26]

Sure seems to be a grab to push the American people deeper into the hands of importing and buying good ol Walmart garbage.

 

[Mototrig]

I really hope this doesn't last too much longer. I wanna go boating in October

 

[Drew]

Stop sending water to Mexico and stop wasting it on the almonds grown in California . Look into how many gallons it takes for a almond harvest.

 

[Singleton]

Announced today - starting in 2022. Impacts to agriculture. Cities of Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas and all Native American tribes protected from order.
Arizona - 18% reduction
Nevada - 7% reduction
Mexico - 5% reduction

 

[bentprops]

i wondeer if that mexico reduction is before or after the 2000% increase they got this year?

 

[rivermobster]

I really hope this doesn't last too much longer. I wanna go boating in October

Be quiet you, the river is Closed in October! And this year it will be all dried up. Bone dry.

It really will be a dry heat!

 

[grumpy88]

Announced today - starting in 2022. Impacts to agriculture. Cities of Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas and all Native American tribes protected from order.
Arizona - 18% reduction
Nevada - 7% reduction
Mexico - 5% reduction

Son of a bitch ! And i just added another cycle to my sprinklers !

 

[bilz]

All you az peeps with bidets can only clean 82% of your ass

 

[DRYHEAT]

I think it’s time we reroute the Snake and the Columbia rivers south.

 

[SoCalDave]

I think it’s time we reroute the Snake and the Columbia rivers south.

Been sayin it for years...the Columbia alone dumps 260,000 cubic feet per second into the big blue Pacific...every fuking day...

 

[jesco]

This is last Friday in Ehrenberg. Usually the buoys are in 5 to 6 feet of water. Fridays are usually low, but not this low. Thursday the water was up to the EzUp. Next years gonna be rough!!

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[02HoWaRd26]

This is last Friday in Ehrenberg. Usually the buoys are in 5 to 6 feet of water. Fridays are usually low, but not this low. Thursday the water was up to the EzUp. Next years gonna be rough!! View attachment 1038832 .

I still find it odd and there seems to be something more to it in my honest opinion, Lake Mohave was Full Saturday, and the River here is at max most the week, yet Powell and Mead are nearly dry, doesn’t take a conspiracy theorist to see something is afoot.

 

[Mandelon]

https://www.usbr.gov/watersmart/bsp/docs/finalreport/ColoradoRiver/CRBS_Executive_Summary_FINAL.pdf

 

[Rondog4405]

Shit ..rolled into satellite cove Saturday.. the water was so high there was only a few patches of beach.

 

[1manshow]

Stop sending water to Mexico and stop wasting it on the almonds grown in California . Look into how many gallons it takes for a almond harvest.

Setting a precedent for dictating what a farmer can grow is a dangerous consideration.

And then there's also this:

 

[FCT]

This is last Friday in Ehrenberg. Usually the buoys are in 5 to 6 feet of water. Fridays are usually low, but not this low. Thursday the water was up to the EzUp. Next years gonna be rough!! View attachment 1038832 .

I seen that. I couldn’t believe how low it was when I crossed the bridge. I have never seen it that low.

 

[81Sprint]

California needs to build more desalinization plants and be self sufficient. Plenty of water in the ocean

 

[Duffster]

Soon it will be like Road Warrior

 

[HB2Havasu]

California needs to build more desalinization plants and be self sufficient. Plenty of water in the ocean

Hush your mouth. Don’t you know what the state really needs is a Bullet Train to Fresno? Gavin Newsome

 

[Bigbore500r]

Davis dam cut way back on releases over last week. I was up Tuesday thru Friday and it was almost like winter, super shallow all day, never did rise like normal

 

[brgrcru]

River homes losing there value in 3,2,1

 

[Done-it-again]

River homes losing there value in 3,2,1

You can add boats to that too.......

 

[Groper]

Yawl might as well get them mud boggin tires ready for next summer

 

[bilz]

Yawl might as well get them mud boggin tires ready for next summer

Don't ya know, gas will be banned by then. F Ca!

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

I still find it odd and there seems to be something more to it in my honest opinion, Lake Mohave was Full Saturday, and the River here is at max most the week, yet Powell and Mead are nearly dry, doesn’t take a conspiracy theorist to see something is afoot.

Its not a conspiracy, its politics of a water agreement signed back when the southwest was a 1/4 of the population of today and it was written very short-sighted in terms of understanding the population growth trends in the southwest. The upper river basin has its share of the water and plays the role in controlling water flows to the lower basin.

Additionally, Havasu is a pump lake, it cannot drop far due to the pumping stations requirements. But everything else can be allowed to drop. However, some of the water flows are due to hydroelectric power requirements, and you can't do that without water past the dam so some places on the river will still get water if they are below hydroelectric dams (Glen, Hoover, Davis, Parker).

Edited: Removing the statement that Lake Mohave is a pump station lake. My research was flawed. That leaves the question why Mohave does not see the level fluctuations like Mead and Powell if there is no reason to keep it full. Only thing I can think of is the lake is much more shallow and therefore it doesn't have the leeway of dropping the lake levels while still fulfilling power output requirements by the powerplant.

 

[GOTTBoat]

Its not a conspiracy, its politics of a water agreement signed back when the southwest was a 1/4 of the population of today and it was written very short-sighted in terms of understanding the population growth trends in the southwest. The upper river basin has its share of the water and plays the role in controlling water flows to the lower basin.

Additionally, Mohave and Havasu are pump lakes, they cannot drop far due to the pumping stations requirements. But everything else can be allowed to drop. However, some of the water flows are due to hydroelectric power requirements, and you can't do that without water past the dam so some places on the river will still get water if they are below hydroelectric dams (Glen, Hoover, Davis, Parker).

where are the pumps on Mohave?

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

where are the pumps on Mohave?

Good catch, I screwed up in my research. I have retracted that statement from my post.

 

[Joe mama]

Throttle might be onto something by getting that air conditioned Polaris.

 

[spectra3279]

Could be they are doing this to force a renegotiation of the water rights also

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[Hydroman55]

California needs to build more desalinization plants and be self sufficient. Plenty of water in the ocean

Takes lots of energy and where is that coming from? Can’t keep the lights on now, with no reliable expansion plans.

 

[GOTTBoat]

Good catch, I screwed up in my research. I have retracted that statement from my post.

No problem, I wasn’t trying to discredit your post and the following is not directed at you.
Every acre foot of water that is stored and then released (CFS) through the dams is documented and published and available for anyone to see. There are no secret deals for large water flows in the dark of night, there is no guy in sunglasses at a ramp on Mead that knows ANY secrets lol. The conspiracy theories are entertaining to read but never provide details or facts. These dams and reservoirs aren’t big enough for extended periods of drought when everyone is pulling their full allocation. I remember going to the Petrified Forest National Park as a kid in the sixties, they showed us fifty year droughts in the rings of petrified trees so this is nothing new, just new for us alive now. Look up Pueblo Indians for a possible glimpse at the future of the southwest, with no water to make electricity (Hoover) to pump non existent water (Havasu) to So Cal it could get ugly. The other water source So Cal relies on is the Sacramento Delta which has its own issues, drought included. For the desalination fans anyone that lives uphill from the coast ( 99.99%) it requires huge amounts of electricity to move water. California can’t keep the grid up in a mild heat wave. No easy answers, hope for normal snowfall in Colorado!

 

[TroubleMaker]

Makes you wonder..................

Lake Oroville’s dry but flooded Feather River beaches concern residents

OROVILLE, Calif. - People living in Oroville say they are confused as to why their park beach is flooding during a drought.

www.actionnewsnow.com

 

[Racey]

Announced today - starting in 2022. Impacts to agriculture. Cities of Phoenix, Tucson, Las Vegas and all Native American tribes protected from order.
Arizona - 18% reduction
Nevada - 7% reduction
Mexico - 5% reduction

And what was CA's reduction?

 

[Singleton]

And what was CA's reduction?

ZERO - CA has more senior water rights so no reduction until at least 2023

 

[riverroyal]

Fire sale on boats. Lake houses. F150s, speed utv's, shits gonna get real

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

Fire sale on boats. Lake houses. F150s, speed utv's, shits gonna get real

Awesome, can't wait. Though I do have to deal with weeding out the "drive it like you stole it" crowd that's now bailing on their government funded fun toys.

 

[jetur]

I don't get it. This has been the wettest monsoon season I can remember in PHX. I don't pay much attention to rainfall outside of where I live, but I would assume they must be getting monsoon rain up there?

 

[throttle]

I don't get it. This has been the wettest monsoon season I can remember in PHX. I don't pay much attention to rainfall outside of where I live, but I would assume they must be getting monsoon rain up there?

Just a couple thoughts...

The snowpack is really what makes the difference. Think of a constant flow of water draining into rivers, lakes and reservoirs long into our summer months and some all year. Rain and monsoons don’t create the same impact as a good percentage of the rainfall is soaked up into dry land before running to rivers and lakes.


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[throttle]

Throttle might be onto something by getting that air conditioned Polaris.

Just sayin... [emoji848]


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[Nanu/Nanu]

Food for thought is many states have changed their energy profile to have clean energy. Hydro is clean

There have been a lot of coal power plant getting pulled off the grid and nothing else is able to fill the void because they're dirty so it's clean energy only. Hydro is clean but water is a precious commodity. Why aren't we pumping it back upstream?