Dog Shock Collar

[FROGMAN524]

Anybody have any experience training their dog with a shock collar? Our GSD, 6 months old next week, barks incessantly every time we put him outside for no apparent reason and we want to get it stopped before the neighbors kill us.


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[outboardrick]

I had a young Lab that would not obey and I couldn't trust him off leash. I got a shock collar and we were sitting on the front patio, he took off down the driveway to see someone walking down the road. I gave him a couple of verbal commands, hit the tone once and then the shock. He spun around in the air, came right back and sat at my feet like "Yes Dad, I completely understand now". Was perfect after that, always put his collar on when we went outside and he knew he had to be good. I have no idea how it would work with barking, and I know they have a squirt collar made for that also.

 

[j-bone]

I have found them to be very effective. However, make sure the controller is out of reach of children and a father in law with dementia that likes pushing buttons. Trust me, I know. Poor dog. There are several kinds. Some that activate with barking and some that are remote controlled. I preferred the remote control, with caveat mentioned above. It had two functions. An audible sound with vibration, or audible sound with shock. After the dog feels the shock, they associate the audible sound with it. Then, the sound and vibration is usually enough. Eventually they associate their bark with the reason for the shock/vibration. In our case though, the dog figured out that if the collar was not on, he could bark away. When the collar went back on, you could hear a pin drop. Also, every dog has different pain tolerance. Start at a low setting and work up. Good luck.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Yes, but I would get yourself some training with it. Our dogs were damn near unmanageable before we got the training and collars. We used Sit means sit dog training and their lifetime training package.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Thanks for the replies. There’s a collar by TBI that has 3 functions including an audible beep, a vibration and then a shock which can be adjusted up or down. Going to order that and try it to see how it works. The best part is it’s totally waterproof and that’s what we need because he swims like a fish and will jump in the pool and swim any time he wants. Will also look into the training as well.


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[outboardrick]

Oh, and every once in a while you may find a girl that likes to wear the collar..... So I've been told

 

[lenmann]

Get some training from a local dog trainer before you use the collar.

There is no faster or more effective way than a shock collar to F-up a dog and its relationship with his/her handler (you).

Depending on where you live they will charge you $50 to $100 for an hour of how to properly use the collar to achieve the behavior changes you want without screwing the dog up.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Will do. Ironically my now passed father was an attorney and a co-owner of a professional dog training and boarding facility, specializing in GSDs, in Frazier Park that has since been sold.


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[Waterjunky]

Had a German wire hair that we worked with a collar. She had a head of stone which is fairly typical with the breed. We didn't need to use the collar that often but it was a huge asset to have. We treated it as a positive believe it or not. The collar meant that she was getting out of the normal and was going to do something interesting. Commonly this was hunting or something like a hunting adventure. She would get so excited when it came out.

 

[mesquito_creek]

Worked great on a barking small mutt for me.... It did not work on one of my hunting Labs. That Lab was so birdy, that he would take of after birds and you could hit the shock collar as many times as you wanted. I could see the electric blue spark firing off into his neck and he still would not break stride! Great dog, but not responsive to collar training...

 

[2Driver]

Had one for our Chesapeake.

Read up on how to train with it. One important factor is to not let the dog associate the collar with being shocked because once he figures it out and you take off the collar everything is lost. Leave the collar on him for 3 days or more before using it. Just remember the goal is behavior modification and not punishment.

For barking, our old neighbors in San Diego had 2 small terriers that barked at everything all day. They put on auto-shock bark collars and it shut them up immediately.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Had a German wire hair that we worked with a collar. She had a head of stone which is fairly typical with the breed. We didn't need to use the collar that often but it was a huge asset to have. We treated it as a positive believe it or not. The collar meant that she was getting out of the normal and was going to do something interesting. Commonly this was hunting or something like a hunting adventure. She would get so excited when it came out.

Positive experience and consistency is key. For my dogs, huskies, putting the collar on means treats, walks, and most importantly going to work. They love to train.

Barking can be an asset, so I think you may want to train when to bark rather than not barking at all.

 

[Havasu blue label]

Orvis has them on sale dove season open on the first

 

[nameisbond]

I use it on my German Shepherd. Works great. The collar I have has a vibrate mode. Vibrate is enough to get mine to mind now. I agree work with a trainer.

 

[Waterjunky]

Out of the seven settings that one I have has, we usually used "2". 3 was used if things really got out of hand, but that was extremely rare. My guess is that 7 would have folded her knees.......

 

[rivergames]

My girl and I just picked up a Charcoal Lab a few weeks ago. Man, we have been busting as trying to train this dog. He is pretty good with sit and laydown. I taught him to shake and now he wants to fucking shake at everything.

He isn't learning potty training with a shit.... I've been trying to crate train. He sleeps in his crate, then I pull him out and take him strait to his potty area and stand there for 20 minutes. Sometimes he goes right away... Sometimes he doesn't. Then when I think he doesn't have to go, as soon as we get back inside, he pisses/shits.....

He's been to puppy school a few times, but he's a menace.

Once he start barking, He'll be getting a shock collar to learn not to bark

 

[McKay]

I run the Garmin Pro 550 with three colars. They have a bark function as well. Solid stuff. I get about 5 years of abuse out of a set. (Use to be Tri-Tronics and garmin bought them out.)

 

[DLow]

Had one for our Chesapeake.

Read up on how to train with it. One important factor is to not let the dog associate the collar with being shocked because once he figures it out and you take off the collar everything is lost. Leave the collar on him for 3 days or more before using it. Just remember the goal is behavior modification and not punishment.

For barking, our old neighbors in San Diego had 2 small terriers that barked at everything all day. They put on auto-shock bark collars and it shut them up immediately.

We have a Chessie. Amazing dogs but stubborn as hell. Almost went shock collar route, but we were able to get him trained with the help of a FEMA dog handler friend of mine. Any grooming tricks for hot weather?

 

[McKay]

We have a Chessie. Amazing dogs but stubborn as hell. Almost went shock collar route, but we were able to get him trained with the help of a FEMA dog handler friend of mine. Any grooming tricks for hot weather?
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I run Drahthaar's which have that similar undercoat. I strip mine with a Mars brush with the blades close together. Do it while they are wet and it pulls tons of hair out. I stop doing them though at the first of August and let them build up for winter. But I run my dogs in icewater 3-4 days a week in the winter.

https://www.amazon.com/Mars-Coat-Ki...locphy=9029756&hvtargid=pla-317871798387&th=1

 

[coolchange]

Are those available with usb.? Maybe we can get one for Grads?

 

[footer]

+1 on using a pro to train both you and the dog at the start.

 

[bajagrom]

So I am also in the same boat. 2 year old boxer who loves to protect his yard/ house. He barks when people/ dogs walk by, mail man unknow vehicles to the neighborhood. The usual stuff a dog barks at.

But The new guy in the neighborhood who is Old (55-65) is a contractor who works from home. Doesn’t want any barking. Doesn’t like music when washing cars kinda guy.

Animal control was in the area so I talked to the guy (20+years of experience) for a bit and he said to use a shock collar. Buy the most expensive one Turn it up to 10 and the dog will learn in the first few days. He also suggested landscaping the yard so the dog couldn’t see as much.

In Ventura County animal control wants to work with the dog owner. Barking is unregulated. Similar to a party call. It’s all up to the crappy neighborhood who complains. 5 out 6 neighborhood don’t mind my dog barking but the one does so know I have to be mindful.

 

[wayniac]

We had dogs that would fight every so often, and so I had the wise idea that if i put the shock collar on the instigator, it might make him stop... oops.. he growled, I shocked, and it was on...

 

[DILLIGAF]

Anybody have any experience training their dog with a shock collar? Our GSD, 6 months old next week, barks incessantly every time we put him outside for no apparent reason and we want to get it stopped before the neighbors kill us.


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It will solve the problem

 

[STV_Keith]

I have a Chihuahua/weiner dog mix that would bark at basically any sound outside of her immediate area. Car door out front, bark. Someone in another room moving, bark. Bought the Sport Dog NoBark 10R rechargeable unit and it works great. You can set the levels, or put it on auto. I use auto. When it senses the noise and vibration, it starts at the lowest level and ramps up until the dog stops barking. If they bark again within 30 seconds, it resumes. If they don't, it starts over a the lowest level the next time. These days, I don't even turn it on and she will be dead quiet anytime it's on her.

I also have the Sport Dog Yard Training, which is a remote activated shock collar. It has one button that beeps, one that shocks at the current setting (adjustable on the remote) and one that shocks 2 levels up from the setting. After a few times of use, it only takes the beep and the dog responds to what you want immediately.

 

[RadMan]

First I bought just the dedicated bark collar, Worked great. Easy on me, had a giant fenced yard over an acre, so the collar did all the bark training without my help. Off collar, he would still bark, not as much. But with the collar on, he quit barking. Then bought a training collar with operators remote for the lake house to teach him to stay close to home. It worked too, but you have to work also.
If they sell a training collar with bark mode that’s best of both worlds. I only used the collars when I was around, never left them on long duration because the little prongs must be annoying if on for a long time.

 

[farmo83]

We have a mini aussie that is always barking and on the go. The model we got has a beeper and a shock. We would beep him then shock him to get him to listen. After about 3 days he started needing it less and less. He listens better then any dog we've had now. The only real time we'll put a collar on him is sometimes at the lake as we don't have a fence and even then we just beep him and he's fine.

 

[DILLIGAF]

We put one of those shock collars on a brother of mine when drunk. It was the fence deal and he took off. We had it on nuclear and when he hit the distance limits it lit his ass up. He was yelling for us to turn it off and we were buckled over laughing our asses off. As he tried to come back he was running so fast he ran smack into a wooden beam on the house and fell backwards onto his back. One of the funniest things I have ever seen. We filmed it but I cant find it now ;(.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Worked great on a barking small mutt for me.... I did not work on one of my hunting Labs. That Lab was so birdy, that we would take of after birds and you could hit the shock collar as many times as you wanted. I could see the electric blue spark firing off into his neck and he still would not break stride! Great dog, but not responsive to collar training...

That is true. My pup Roxy is a smart dog. Couldnt keep her in the yard as she like to go swimming in everybody's pool.

So...She figured out that is was just a temp deal and would jump the fence and pay the short term pain. After the initial shock she was onto the next pool. Lol

 

[2Driver]

We have a Chessie. Amazing dogs but stubborn as hell. Almost went shock collar route, but we were able to get him trained with the help of a FEMA dog handler friend of mine. Any grooming tricks for hot weather?
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He’s awesome looking. I’ve had one since I was a toddler. They shed like crazy. A shedding brush is about it. We had a pool so Most of them would just go in and do laps on their own.

The last one was a champ and a Alpha dog although super loving so we thought. He ended up getting jealous of our 2 year old son and suddenly attacked him with a death grip on his chest trying to kill him. A life-flight and a week in ICU, another in recovery and we haven’t been dog owners since. Gotta watch certain dogs around toddlers as we have had other people come forward with same stories.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Thanks for all the good responses guys. This is what I ended up ordering. I’ll report back once we get some training and get to using it.

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[Xtrmwakeboarder]

We have a Chessie. Amazing dogs but stubborn as hell. Almost went shock collar route, but we were able to get him trained with the help of a FEMA dog handler friend of mine. Any grooming tricks for hot weather?
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If you're talking about getting rid of undercoat I couldn't live without the K9II dryer. Instead of brushing for an hour, especially when they blow their coat, I just blow it out in about 10 minutes. I got the variable speed, but have it on full tilt 90% of the time.

https://k9dryer.com/product/k9-ii-variable-speed-dog-dryer/

 

[mesquito_creek]

So RDP is either super Pro Shock collar... or the anti shockers are too afraid to answer... not sure which because this conversation normally goes 180 degrees the opposite way..

LOL

 

[2Driver]

So RDP is either super Pro Shock collar... or the anti shockers are too afraid to answer... not sure which because this conversation normally goes 180 degrees the opposite way..

LOL

They don’t tow worth a shit.

 

[nameisbond]

So RDP is either super Pro Shock collar... or the anti shockers are too afraid to answer... not sure which because this conversation normally goes 180 degrees the opposite way..

LOL

They are the best tools. For most "shock" corrections a low setting is all that is needed. Mine is set so low you can barely feel it when "shocking" yourself. I mostly use vibrate as a correction. For safety around people my dog needs to be muzzled, even a full on shock won't stop him when he wants to bite. Shocking him actually makes him worse when he's in attack mode.

Some people here formed a group to ban shock collars. When I was teenager my neighbors German Shepherd jumped the fence at the side of their house. Dogs choke chain got caught on the fence. Broke the dogs neck...…….. Those are more dangerous.

 

[mesquito_creek]

They are the best tools. For most "shock" corrections a low setting is all that is needed. Mine is set so low you can barely feel it when "shocking" yourself. I mostly use vibrate as a correction. For safety around people my dog needs to be muzzled, even a full on shock won't stop him when he wants to bite. Shocking him actually makes him worse when he's in attack mode.

Some people here formed a group to ban shock collars. When I was teenager my neighbors German Shepherd jumped the fence at the side of their house. Dogs choke chain got caught on the fence. Broke the dogs neck...…….. Those are more dangerous.

I had an 85 lbs female silver tip German Shepherd 30 years ago. She never made a sound or barked at all, she never left the yard. But she was as mean as they get. One day I came home and there was blood all over the dog run and she was in her dog house with a missing tooth. Several week later we hear about some doped up kid for a couple blocks over had been to the hospital because of a dog attack. It was a 50/50 chance that he would pick her side of the fenced back yard when he must have been trying break into our house.

 

[GOTTBoat]

I have a Chihuahua/weiner dog mix that would bark at basically any sound outside of her immediate area. Car door out front, bark. Someone in another room moving, bark. Bought the Sport Dog NoBark 10R rechargeable unit and it works great. You can set the levels, or put it on auto. I use auto. When it senses the noise and vibration, it starts at the lowest level and ramps up until the dog stops barking. If they bark again within 30 seconds, it resumes. If they don't, it starts over a the lowest level the next time. These days, I don't even turn it on and she will be dead quiet anytime it's on her.

This^

Two Cattle dogs, get fired up when the neighbors little yippers start their shit. As soon as I even ask if they want their collars on they shut up. Great collars if you are gone for the day, completely automatic with multiple settings. The collars with the remote are great if you are there and have the remote in your pocket, I have one also. This is how the rattlesnake avoidance training is done (by a pro).

 

[4Waters]

My mom got one for her dog, I put it on the dog and gave her a command and when she did comply I pushed the button, her head tilted sideways that was it, pushed it again and same thing, I thought this thing isn't strong enough so I reached under and put my fingers on the probes and pushed the button, HOLY HELL that hurt, the dog was dumb as a sack of hammers and had no sense of feeling either.

 

[DLow]

He’s awesome looking. I’ve had one since I was a toddler. They shed like crazy. A shedding brush is about it. We had a pool so Most of them would just go in and do laps on their own.

The last one was a champ and a Alpha dog although super loving so we thought. He ended up getting jealous of our 2 year old son and suddenly attacked him with a death grip on his chest trying to kill him. A life-flight and a week in ICU, another in recovery and we haven’t been dog owners since. Gotta watch certain dogs around toddlers as we have had other people come forward with same stories.

Dang. Really sorry to hear that happened. I have heard of a lot of alpha male dogs that don’t handle new babies well. Sad deal all the way around.

 

[F.U.IRS]

We tried one on our little yapper, Chihuahua Jack Russel mix
Sitting in the golf cart with us she started her barking and got a quick correction on the lowest setting.She went nuts yelping and had both front paws under that thing trying to rip it off. After that never used it again. Just couldn't watch her go through that again

 

[lbhsbz]

There are much more effective ways to train your dog. Do not hire a trainer to do it, consult with a trainer to learn what to do..

 

[FROGMAN524]

Part of me just thinks he’s young and nuts and that he’ll grow up at some point, hopefully soon, but I’d like to help that along in some way. This might be effective, seems a lot of people have had good luck with it and having a trainer teach me how to train as well is another option.


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[rivergames]

Any luck with the dog being trained not to bark with the shock collar?

How'd you like the collar you picked up?

 

[Gramps]

the easy part is training the dog, the hard part is training the person. I have used shock collars for years. Always had Tri-Tronics, they were bought out by Garmin. I have the Garmin now..............good piece of equipment

 

[G. Faulk]

He’s awesome looking. I’ve had one since I was a toddler. They shed like crazy. A shedding brush is about it. We had a pool so Most of them would just go in and do laps on their own.

The last one was a champ and a Alpha dog although super loving so we thought. He ended up getting jealous of our 2 year old son and suddenly attacked him with a death grip on his chest trying to kill him. A life-flight and a week in ICU, another in recovery and we haven’t been dog owners since. Gotta watch certain dogs around toddlers as we have had other people come forward with same stories.

Holy shit, I feel for you.

 

[G. Faulk]

I just got a dogtra, great trainer collar, and were in our second week of training. This is going to sound funny but the first thing you need to do is turn the collar up half power and shock yourself. This way you know what your dogs getting. It all is on the trainer if its not done right you can damage your dog.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Any luck with the dog being trained not to bark with the shock collar?

How'd you like the collar you picked up?

Seems to be working pretty well though he doesn’t really react to the shock or the vibration he just stops barking and looks around like “what was that?” Pretty happy with it so far and the fact that it’s waterproof is great because he swims like a fish with the collar on.


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[rivergames]

Seems to be working pretty well though he doesn’t really react to the shock or the vibration he just stops barking and looks around like “what was that?” Pretty happy with it so far and the fact that it’s waterproof is great because he swims like a fish with the collar on.


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Thanks. I just picked one up. Should be here Thursday. He got his last Parvo shot last night. I'm taking him to Lake Tahoe this weekend to enter the world [emoji106][emoji106][emoji106]

 

[JDKRXW]

My girl and I just picked up a Charcoal Lab a few weeks ago.

He isn't learning potty training with a shit.... I've been trying to crate train. He sleeps in his crate, then I pull him out and take him strait to his potty area and stand there for 20 minutes. Sometimes he goes right away... Sometimes he doesn't. Then when I think he doesn't have to go, as soon as we get back inside, he pisses/shits.....

Getting better yet?
How old is your boy? If he's more than a few months, it may take some time and the most important thing you can do is stick with your plan.
Good luck.

 

[rivergames]

Getting better yet?
How old is your boy? If he's more than a few months, it may take some time and the most important thing you can do is stick with your plan.
Good luck.

He is getting better weekly with training, but he is also now finding his bark. He is 16 weeks tomorrow. I'm hoping the vibrate setting trains him prior to getting zapped. We shall see.