They work great if you have service, areas like Parker and Glamis when it's busy not so much. I have starlink for those areas@Hammer
So my SIL uses one of these things. On the boat in Oxnard last weekend, we were watching the Dodger game on TV with it, and three of us were on our cell phones at the same time. She has the older 4G one, that is much cheaper than the new 5G ones. She says it's about the size of a CC, but thicker, charges with a cord, and she pays about 20 bucks a month with Verizon for unlimited data. She also has one from t-mobil. They both require cell service I'm told, so one of em works where the other one doesn't. For deep desert camping, they have a Starlink as well.
I'm gonna look into this more myself!
You are not wrong with this. Not every employer has the funding or time to pay a full time guy to train computer skills to field guys AND run the business and pull the supers off their jobs for training and keep the project running smoothly.And in not trying to be a dick or know it all. This is a constant thing with older guys in the field. They are against it, don’t want it, hate it, and then they learn and get familiar and love it and wonder why they waited so long. That just how it’s going with technology in construction. We are YEARS behind as a whole in this industry
I have one, my phone can act as a hotspot too.@Hammer
So my SIL uses one of these things. On the boat in Oxnard last weekend, we were watching the Dodger game on TV with it, and three of us were on our cell phones at the same time. She has the older 4G one, that is much cheaper than the new 5G ones. She says it's about the size of a CC, but thicker, charges with a cord, and she pays about 20 bucks a month with Verizon for unlimited data. She also has one from t-mobil. They both require cell service I'm told, so one of em works where the other one doesn't. For deep desert camping, they have a Starlink as well.
I'm gonna look into this more myself!
They work great if you have service, areas like Parker and Glamis when it's busy not so much. I have starlink for those areas
Yea I get that for sure. This is where those youngsters come into play, they are cheap labor but the are techy. That’s what I tell all my apprentices. Be that guy, take some initiative. Don’t do the 8 and skate.You are not wrong with this. Not every employer has the funding or time to pay a full time guy to train computer skills to field guys AND run the business and pull the supers off their jobs for training and keep the project running smoothly.
Let alone have a dedicated estimator, sales guy/team, Project Engineer and PM/APM etc..., some companies have one or two guys that have to fill all those roles, or do a little of each, that doesn't mean they aren't successful either. It's possible they are in the growing stages and don't have capital to hire a full time office staff YET.
How expensive is procore? My understanding is cost is based on project value you’re running though it. That’s how it used to be anyways. Autodesk has PlanGrid now. Well it’s called something different but same thing.
Yes it’s based project revenue that’s why I was thinking for a smaller company it shouldn’t be too bad. Most subs just get invited by the GC and just have to know how to use it. I’m not in the field anymore so it’s nice to hear real feedback. My brother works for my old company Sharpe interiors and they are huge on procore but sharpe also built their campus in carpenteria so there’s a working relationship there.Its VERY expensive, and is based on your revenue of the projects you use it on. We are a $150M+- a year sub contractor and we signed on for a year to try it out as a project management tool for ourselves. We obviously get a seat on the projects through the GC, but wanted to use it to manage our side and we are doing MEPF complete on projects so the documentation is obviously crazy. We dropped it after the year and went into what is now Trimble Construct One and it is working well for us. It has direct reporting back into our accounting and am now told that our CRM is integrating with it and our accounting as well come 2025, so we will be sticking with it.
I can tell you some of these GCs are writing HUGE checks to Procore, but as you know, it works VERY well from that side!
Yes it’s based project revenue that’s why I was thinking for a smaller company it shouldn’t be too bad. Most subs just get invited by the GC and just have to know how to use it. I’m not in the field anymore so it’s nice to hear real feedback. My brother works for my old company Sharpe interiors and they are huge on procore but sharpe also built their campus in carpenteria so there’s a working relationship there.
We saw that out at the ITC maybe two years ago. It didn’t really take off though. I’ll ask our tech coordinator Andy if we are doing anything with it. Last week I was out there and he had that stupid robot dog and was messing around the whole time so I didn’t really get to talk with himGot it!
It is absolutely the most widely use construction software around. I would say that 90% or more of our GCs are using it and more and more are using it for even more activities like billing, punch list, etc. It seems that the GCs are really starting to take advantage of what they are paying for. Most of our big projects that we interview or propose for have some questions in the RFP about our ability and skills with Procore.
Side question, do you have any experience with Open Space camera software? We have been using it for about a year now, and although it had push back at first, it is really taking off. Its a 3D camera that you give a few insertion points on a set of drawings to and then walk the building with this thing attached to your hard hat and click a few buttons at each insertion point and it ties it all together and builds a virtual map that you can "walk" on the computer and go room to room and see progress, safety concerns, QA/QC issues, etc. Its pretty interesting! It works great for our out of state stuff because we can have anyone walk the job that knows how to run the camera, and then our PMs who may be in a different state can see true progress on the jobs, etc.
Its a shit ton of money to outfit an entire company to run Procore. On the field side, it doesn't cost anything to access the projects and upload pictures, constraints, reports, etc. But for the companies running the project and owning the licenses, its big $$$It’s not that much I can guarantee it. I don’t pay a cent.
Is this similar to Matterport? I have used that for several out of state projects to "walk the job" . This sounds like it will cross reference the set points on the CD's to give you a reference of the 3D images?Got it!
It is absolutely the most widely use construction software around. I would say that 90% or more of our GCs are using it and more and more are using it for even more activities like billing, punch list, etc. It seems that the GCs are really starting to take advantage of what they are paying for. Most of our big projects that we interview or propose for have some questions in the RFP about our ability and skills with Procore.
Side question, do you have any experience with Open Space camera software? We have been using it for about a year now, and although it had push back at first, it is really taking off. Its a 3D camera that you give a few insertion points on a set of drawings to and then walk the building with this thing attached to your hard hat and click a few buttons at each insertion point and it ties it all together and builds a virtual map that you can "walk" on the computer and go room to room and see progress, safety concerns, QA/QC issues, etc. Its pretty interesting! It works great for our out of state stuff because we can have anyone walk the job that knows how to run the camera, and then our PMs who may be in a different state can see true progress on the jobs, etc.
This is old people in EVERY industry….And in not trying to be a dick or know it all. This is a constant thing with older guys in the field. They are against it, don’t want it, hate it, and then they learn and get familiar and love it and wonder why they waited so long. That just how it’s going with technology in construction. We are YEARS behind as a whole in this industry