Do you lift a engine

[Jimmy]

By the intake manifold or by the cylinder heads?

The intake manifold would be convenient but it's only aluminum.

 

[Runs2rch]

By the intake manifold or by the cylinder heads?

The intake manifold would be convenient but it's only aluminum.

Either. Just depends. I have lifted big blocks off of the manifold with plate and studs.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Carb base if the threads are good, cylinderheads, headersling in boats or dragsters.

Whatever you can get in that lifts the ol girl.

3/8 min if you can help it.

 

[BDMar]

Cylinder heads only. Never the intake. Four 5/16" bolts not really a great idea, especially if it's an aluminum intake.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Don't even try lifting by the manifold if it's plastic. Just sayin'.

 

[wsuwrhr]

Don't even try lifting by the manifold if it's plastic. Just sayin'.

Experience?

Noted.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Experience?

Noted.

No noting necessary.

YouTube clip. If I can find it I'll post it.

 

[2FORCEFULL]

By the intake manifold or by the cylinder heads?

The intake manifold would be convenient but it's only aluminum.

I just lift the trailer on to the ball...

 

[rivrrts429]

Always cylinder heads for me. Always a forklift too lol

 

[wsuwrhr]

Always a forklift too lol

Always.

How the "other" half does it.

 

[Yellowboat]

If the heads are al, don't lift from them either. Seen more the a few.snap off. Mainly late model stuff. For me its iron only.

 

[mesquito_creek]

on boats there is normally enough room to just get a couple straps all the way under and around it if you want!

 

[Jimmy]

Got me one of these. $50.
Would have taken me all day to knock up a manifold plate.
Ganna use the old man's 5 ton excavator to put it in the boat

 

[Jimmy]

on boats there is normally enough room to just get a couple straps all the way under and around it if you want!

Yeah that's how I got it out and it was tight.
And trying to line gimbal bearing would be a nightmare.

 

[ka0tyk]

cylinder head fo sho.

 

[spectras only]

Lot of people using carb bolt holes lifting engines, not me though. I don't trust four 5/16 or 3/8 bolts holding a dressed 600-800 lbs engine by the threads only.
Here's my trusted 50 plus yr old friend that can lift engines over most boat's engine bays.:thumbsup

 

[SBMech]

Always cylinder heads for me. Always a forklift too lol

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Those flip flops OSHA approved?

Several of you have mentioned 4 bolt intake manifolds, I've never seen a V8 intake with less than 8....

A good carb plate setup is hard to beat for installing in vehicles, boats are so wide open it hardly matters as long as you are using decent hardware.

Remember that most factory install mounts are a single bolt holding a small bracket.

 

[Waterjunky]

So what's wrong with having a fork lift with a cherry picker attachment in your garage? I see no issue here.....


<--- recently bought an "antique" Hyster 40 the old school tripod model. It runs fine, needs some minor work, was priced right and is incredibly useful around the property.

I generally try to get a decent bolt into the head at each end. That saying, I have done the manifold lift. Materials, accessibility and weight play a role in the decision making process.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I dont ever use the carb studs on the intake - way too small of a bolt and its putting the stress as a direct "pull" against the threads. Especially if the intake is aluminum!

Cylinder heads or block for me

 

[Racey]

Ever motor I've ever pulled i almost always lift by a strap running around the bottom of the exhaust manifolds. Done probably hundreds this way. :thumbsup

Keep the straps up tight against the heads there are 8 3/8" bolts on a staggered pattern there, all of them are under tension (tight), and it's straight shear load on the bolt, so the strongest configuration.

If you do put long bolts in the front and back of heads it's really the best idea to run a jam nut and a washer to get the threads under tension, bolts and threaded holes are not strong lifting points when they are in a loose configuration. Iron heads you can get away with it, but aluminum ones i'd always recommend jamming and cinching the bolt.

 

[240Hallett]

Is the tensile strength of the combined 4 studs (allowing for aluminum threads) stronger than the shear strength of the single 1/2" or 3/8 bolt holding the chain?

 

[spectras only]

Is the tensile strength of the combined 4 studs (allowing for aluminum threads) stronger than the shear strength of the single 1/2" or 3/8 bolt holding the chain?

Even if the tensile strenght of the four bolts, using the carb plate is 8*, the thread itself is the issue with aluminum intakes.The 1/2" or 3/8 bolt, ARP or any 8 grade bolt is fine using for chain. Using 3/8 bolts, I would use four on the spreader bar, myself.

 

[YoPengo]

I pay some guy to do it... I sit back and drink beer.

 

[Runs2rch]

Bungee cords won't work???? :eek

 

[Bigbore500r]

Those flip flops OSHA approved?

Several of you have mentioned 4 bolt intake manifolds, I've never seen a V8 intake with less than 8....

A good carb plate setup is hard to beat for installing in vehicles, boats are so wide open it hardly matters as long as you are using decent hardware.

Remember that most factory install mounts are a single bolt holding a small bracket.

I think they're referring to the 4 bolts holding the carb plate to the carb flange

 

[Jimmy]

Always cylinder heads for me. Always a forklift too lol

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I'll see your fork lift and raise u an excavator [emoji41]

 

[Wombat]

By the intake manifold or by the cylinder heads?

The intake manifold would be convenient but it's only aluminum.

Small block chev you should be able lift out by hand,:yikes just joshing buddy
I've found the safest way was by head loop brackets only.:thumbsup

 

[scottchbrite]

All the time. You would be surprised at what it would take to yank the threads out of the manifold. I just use good bolts that have proper thread engagement, or studs. Now, a "real" manifold, no way. I'm talking a sheet metal or heavily ported one, like on a race car.....

 

[OCMerrill]

Those flip flops OSHA approved?

Jesus slippers offer the upgraded divine protection.

 

[coolchange]

Anyone ever even hear of a carb plate failing? Clamping load of the worst 1/4 bolt is over 700 pds. That's rating. I'm sure real world would be more like a 1000. A bolt through a chain without a bracket is way more.sketchy.

 

[SBMech]

Anyone ever even hear of a carb plate failing? Clamping load of the worst 1/4 bolt is over 700 pds. That's rating. I'm sure real world would be more like a 1000. A bolt through a chain without a bracket is way more.sketchy.

Carb plate with all 4 bolts used and tightened properly would take a load of well over 4k to pull out.

I've never heard of even the largest big blocks weigh more than 1200 or so. That's with hundreds of pounds of iron manifolds and accessories that boats don't run.

Many ways to do it easily, as this thread shows.

I believe Racey had the most appropriate point in that a clamped bolt with a washer makes even a chain-to-head single bolt easily strong enough.:thumbsup

 

[racered]

I don't always pull motors but when I do, I use a treadmill and a folded towel.:rolleyes

 

[kevnmcd]

I'll see your fork lift and raise u an excavator [emoji41]

Or a backhoe.

 

[rivermobster]

Racy made the best point...

Straps (good ones) and best if you can't bolt a lifting plate to an intake, but no matter what you do, make sure the bolts are tight!!!

Just putting a bolt in anywhere and hooking anything to it is an accident waiting to happen. I've seen it with my own eyes.

You won't have a problem, no matter where you lift from, as long as the bolts are tight.