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It takes a couple days to dig up that many coffee cans, anyone have a drone to shoot it from the sky?
 

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Will they arrest Tim at the bank if he doesn't have the funds? Since he has been under investigation since February,
at what point does the DA say "enough is enough"?
 

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...Hopefully somebody will shoot video???...

I was going to go down to the bank and do just that, but I figured that might come off a little stalkerish.. LOL

Why is it always 12 noon.... Why wasn't it 8am when the branch opens? Or whatever time it opens.

If I owed a debt to someone... Told as many lies as this guy I would just want to get this over with asap. Guess everyone is different.

I really hope these guys get their money that's owed. In the chance they don't I sure hope they're taking the appropriate actions (civil or criminal) suited for this type of crime.

Maybe I missed it, but why not Friday when the guy flew into Havasu? Like maybe right after leaving the police station....

I have no idea why it's always 12:00... But it is? This is like the 4th or 5th High Noon to make it right..

As I said in the other thread, there is zero chance both these guys get paid today.

RD
 

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Why is it always 12 noon.... Why wasn't it 8am when the branch opens? Or whatever time it opens.

If I owed a debt to someone... Told as many lies as this guy I would just want to get this over with asap. Guess everyone is different.

I really hope these guys get their money that's owed. In the chance they don't I sure hope they're taking the appropriate actions (civil or criminal) suited for this type of crime.

Tim is hoping for his gofundme.com to come through by noon.:rolleyes
 

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Will they arrest Tim at the bank if he doesn't have the funds? Since he has been under investigation since February,
at what point does the DA say"enough is enough"?

He will not be arrested if he doesn't pay. The cops are there just to witness the account of todays events, and it will go into the evidence pile.

RD
 

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I'm sure glad I got my free tacos at the Desert Storm open house party. Thanks OCM.
I guess they really weren't free though. :-(
 

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What are they going to do Godfather?

Unless he is in custody...What will they do? Move in with him? Wipe his ass?

Just curious.

I was just sayin, hope I'm wrong but shit can go south quick.
 

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He will not be arrested if he doesn't pay. The cops are there just to witness the account of todays events, and it will go into the evidence pile.

RD

From that observation, it would be safe to assume the DA/LE are building a case?

If this guy is as broke as he sounds to be, I would also think he's a flight risk of sorts. The issue there is if he has enough $$ stashed away somewhere to disappear or if the charges are sufficient to make the big of decision. More likely just an embezzler whose time ran out and he'll get some time, some court orders to repay, and be shunned by the community. Hard to get water out of a rock......:(

I've got a guy in GA that owes me $7K over a similar deal. Put everything he owns in relatives names and can't earn enough money legitimately to offer anything but promises that one day he'll make good.....:rolleyes
 

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This is one giant steaming pile of bullshit. It doesn't take weeks to cut a cashier's check, it takes 10 minutes if you have the money in your account. If i owed some guy 60k and didn't have the funds in my business account but my personal account was flush, you god damned better believe i would go through the 'massive inconvenience' :rolleyes of moving money from one account to another to get the guy paid. Even if i had to go to the extent of drawing up a personal loan to the biz....

My guess is no one is getting paid today, and we will hear another litany of excuses.....


I mean step back and look at the facts. On multiple occasions Tim has claimed to be sending the wire, or the cashier's check, for the amount in question. This is an admission that he does owe the guy the money. Never once through this point has time said "I can't pay him until he provides x paperwork, or signs x" It's always been "The wire is coming" or "The check is on it's way via fedex"..... Dude it isn't that complicated, pay your bills, do the right thing.
 

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High noon at the OK corral....


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Favorite part of Tombstone!! [emoji106]

Way too many for me, that's up there, doc and johnny ringo each time is amazing as well, I got a pocket of tombstone gifs for any situation, I'm your huckleberry.
 

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I was going to go down to the bank and do just that, but I figured that might come off a little stalkerish..

RD

I could see TBI doing a good photoshop here to really make us feel like we're there. Kinda like one of those crappy court sketch artists. Lol!!
 

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Dave should put the periscope app on his iPhone and stream this live :D :thumbup:
 

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I cant find the live feed, anyone have the link? :D

I've remained silent throughout this entire ordeal reading all the posts and information.
Months ago I made a post about the exact same situation with OCM / Tim and it was quickly deleted and I was bashed by a few people including RD.
It wasn't the first time OCM / Tim had pulled a scam like this (read the posts from people in Oregon, on Offshore Only and here) and it obviously wasn't the last.
All I can do is hope nobody else falls victim to OCM / Tim and the people in question receive their money.
I've been in touch with a few other people that have had the same type of issues with OCM / Tim and I'm sure they will be posting and contacting LHCPD.
Maybe moving forward this Board can leave posts up warning others about shady Businesses regardless if it's a first time post or not, when there's smoke there's usually a fire.
I wonder how Tim will come up with "RENT" money for him house in LHC for September, I'm sure his Landlord will be made aware of this situation and won't buy "the cheque is in the mail" line.

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Last I hear the payment was weird to Richcy Rich?????
 

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I bet one of three things are happening right now.
1-There is a massive man hunt for Tim
2-There is a lot of BS being slung around in the Bank right now. Which will lead to not having the funds available for a cashiers check to 29.
3-There is going to be an arrest in the Bank Parking Lot Shortly.
4-There will be a check and 29 leaves quickly.

Anyone want to start a pool?
 

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I bet one of three things are happening right now.
1-There is a massive man hunt for Tim
2-There is a lot of BS being slung around in the Bank right now. Which will lead to not having the funds available for a cashiers check to 29.
3-There is going to be an arrest in the Bank Parking Lot Shortly.
4-There will be a check and 29 leaves quickly.

Anyone want to start a pool?
20 on #2
 

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Same here, I keep saying I'll look one more time and then close the site. Been saying that for 45 minutes!

Yep, and still no update.....Hope the boss doesn't log into the router and see how many times I have been on the website looking for updates haha
 

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I've remained silent throughout this entire ordeal reading all the posts and information.
Months ago I made a post about the exact same situation with OCM / Tim and it was quickly deleted and I was bashed by a few people including RD.
It wasn't the first time OCM / Tim had pulled a scam like this (read the posts from people in Oregon, on Offshore Only and here) and it obviously wasn't the last.
All I can do is hope nobody else falls victim to OCM / Tim and the people in question receive their money.
I've been in touch with a few other people that have had the same type of issues with OCM / Tim and I'm sure they will be posting and contacting LHCPD.
Maybe moving forward this Board can leave posts up warning others about shady Businesses regardless if it's a first time post or not, when there's smoke there's usually a fire.
I wonder how Tim will come up with "RENT" money for him house in LHC for September, I'm sure his Landlord will be made aware of this situation and won't buy "the cheque is in the mail" line.

O-Oregon
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M-Man ( and I use the word man very loosely)

First all I can say is I AM SORRY.. Tim is a very convincing person and I believed him right up until I found out about those fake wire transfers.. Even the next morning when he pulled that Fed Wire # out of his ass I found myself again hoping that maybe "I was wrong, and he was just the unluckiest guy in the world when it came to wire transfers."

He is a con man.. And for those that don't know Con is short for "confidence." He builds confidence in others and then uses that to prey on peoples weaknesses.. Mine weakness being that I always think the best of everybody. Others being "Look at this big dealership and all these boats.. Other people have their stuff here, my deal should go smoothly like theirs."


That all said, I looked up this account history and only found 3 posts and zero deleted posts. Here are the other 2 posts of yours that are on the board (not deleted) and you can see them by clicking your own name and "find more posts." If they were deleted I would be able to see more posts then that, and there isn't any that I can see.

The other 2 posts were

Let me set the record straight on a couple points brought up here by people on this Board......

For starters I have dealt with OCM / Tim personally when looking to purchase a boat and I'm very glad I purchased a boat from another Source, I got a VERY uneasy feeling dealing with him.
People around Havasu and in the Boating Community warned me about this Dealership and the problems I could be faced and low and behold other people are dealing with those exact issues.
So were all these people wrong as well and the people that are presently dealing with these issues and have Court dates set up, I hardly think so.
Tell me why we don't hear of these issues with Horizon, Maxxed Out Marine or any of the other Dealers/Brokers in Havasu or the Industry??

The quote from RiverDave that "Tim is one of the most controversial dealers in Havasu" says allot to me and is not the type of reputation that I would want my Business to have.

If there is a Lawsuit pending and other claims made there has to be "some" truth to what's happening here, all this noise cannot be about nothing.
I have received "NUMEROUS" private messages from Members on this Site saying they have had issues with this Dealership also and their glad someone finally stepped up and Posted something.
I guess these Members are wrong also...............

Combining the threads should have meant leaving my original Post in somewhere, as people had posted and predicted "POOF" it's gone.
This was published in the Newspaper and my Post was not the start of something, just comments I had made about a Newspaper article.
I'm not "hating to hate" but just bring to light the points that have been made, how would you like to be out tens of thousands of dollars on a boat deal?

Just as the original Post did this Post is changing subjects already, surprise/surprise.
I hope the Lawsuit brings out the TRUTH and honesty prevails.
This type of Business practice hurts all the Dealers in Havasu and the Industry for that matter and should not be tolerated.


By now I'm sure everyone has read the Newspaper article in last Saturday's paper about OCM in Lake Havasu.
There was a post made earlier about this situation but it seemed to get "off track" and people started talking / concentrating on "Titles and Paperwork" rather than the REAL issue at hand.
As the Article stated Christopher Collins of Washington has Filed a Lawsuit against OCM / Tim because he hasn't been paid more than $80,000 for a boat that OCM / Tim had sold more than 379 days ago. Basically OCM / Tim just kept this guys money, isn't that theft??
The article goes on to say that the Lawyer representing Collins also Files two other complaints against OCM / Tim as well as a third complaint for the same "SHADY" type of Business practices in the past.
Word in Lake Havasu is this has happened to allot more people than just the ones mentioned in this Newspaper Article and this type of "SHADY BUSINESS" happens often at OCM with Tim behind the wheel.
Starts to make sense as to why Dave and DCB Boats pulled all their Boats out of OCM after rumors of this surfaced awhile back and why OCM / Tim has nothing to do with the CRC Race Team anymore.
I hope the buyer from Kentucky that I met at Desert Storm posts a reply and explains his feelings on OCM / Tim and what he had to deal with.
Hopefully people don't think that the Newspaper is reporting bad news and false statements, there's allot of truth behind that article and honest people are being affected.

The quality of boats at OCM has gone from High End Performance Boats to used Pontoon and Fishing Boats with the odd Performance Boat in the mix, things seem to have gone down hill.
I've spoke to a few people that had gotten Service work done at OCM and they were VERY disappointed in the Service that they received, the one fellow said he wouldn't even buy a rope from the people at OCM, especially Tim.

This type of Business practices need to be stopped and hopefully Collins and the other people get their money back and OCM goes back to Oregon.............

RD
 

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I bet one of three things are happening right now.
1-There is a massive man hunt for Tim
2-There is a lot of BS being slung around in the Bank right now. Which will lead to not having the funds available for a cashiers check to 29.
3-There is going to be an arrest in the Bank Parking Lot Shortly.
4-There will be a check and 29 leaves quickly.

Anyone want to start a pool?

You left out the anonymous call in "bomb threat".....:skull

Heavy odds on no money being exchanged.......OCM will have another play on the sign at Joe's Crab Shack, "Free Crabs Tomorrow":yikes:rolleyes
 

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For some reason, this sounds appropriate for this thread :D

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Ok.......where is the information?? It is pretty simple and can be determined in about 30 seconds as to whether the guy has the money or not. Lets get a move on this so that I can get back to work.
 
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