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[DILLIGAF]

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[CLdrinker]

I have always been a Chevy fan. Now I own a Ram 1500 and Durango. So far so good.

FYI Browning Dodge is easy to work with.

Austin didn’t bullshit around. He is the internet sales guy.

 

[76 Hondo]

Just sayin....
I have never been a fan of the Dodge trucks, but they have stepped up with the new ones.

 

[JDub24]

Your best bet is to go and drive all of them. Even rent them for a weekend to get a real sense of what it would be like as a DD. I personally would buy a Dodge over the other two (I have never owned a Chevy for obvious reasons ha ha) because like you stated they have the Cummins reputation and you get a lot of truck for the price compared to the others.

With that said all of them have their corks and horror stories but that’s what warranties are for. If you do purchase new do not buy the extended warranty on day one as you are covered by the factory warranty for some time. Prior to the factory warranty running out purchase the best extended warranty you can if you plan on keeping the truck. By doing this you are not financing two warranties when one is already paid for and has you covered.

So....now that I have it all worked out on the stolen truck I am in the market for a new truck.

If I do purchase one it will be an HD model....would like 4X, diesel possibly and a truck I expect to hold on to for a long while. I will haul a trailer or two along the way and may eventually upsize the trailer a bit so that is why I am considering the HD model.

I have always driven Fords for the most part but am considering looking into the Dodge trucks.....Chev doesn't do it for me personally.

Any real life experiences concerning the Dodge trucks would be appreciated.

Always heard that the engines were bullet proof along with the transmission but it was lacking in fit and finish. Not as comfortable of a truck vs a Ford or Chevy. Have they made a lot of strides into getting this all brought up to par?

Whats your take?

Thanks

 

[hallett21]

Owned mine for 14 months. 4x4 CC SRW long bed 3500 SLT. Has 46,000 miles and has been flawless.

Truck regularly pulls 10-12k of trailer. Also has a service bed full of tools.

I take it to the river and mammoth. Been very reliable.

Friend has same truck in Laramie with regular bed. Very nice interior.

Hard to beat the new fords though. However I found them to be 6-8k more expensive when comparing similar Rams vs Fords.


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[ONE-A-DAY]

Got my first hd ram this year after owning all of them, biggest thing to me on the ram was the ride, rear coil springs make a big difference. Also really like the Cummins, it still sounds like a diesel should.

 

[Weekend Therapy]

We us a leasing company for my work truck and every 6 months or so they send me a brand new Ford, Chevy or Dodge 2500 diesel crew cab. I will say that I am a Ford guy, but I have had the opportunity to drive a new Dodge just about every year for the last 10 years and I dont think you will be happy with one coming from a Ford. The interior is much better on the Ford, they ride better in my opinion and I hate the way the tranny shifts in the Dodge. There is also some serious turbo lag on the Dodges that you can probably tune out or fix, but dont plan on pulling out quickly in front of someone they fall flat on there face at low boost. Stick with the Ford

 

[hallett21]

FYI I have the aisin transmission with the HO Cummins. A lot of people report lag out of the gate. It’s the computers torque management

900 lbs of torque needs some governing lol. You can tune it out but run the risk of breaking stuff.


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[dave29]

I have a 2017 Dodge Laramie 3500 Mega Cab 4X4. Fit and finish is great. Handling, towing power, ride all fantastic. Wouldn't even consider buying another brand.

 

[CLdrinker]

Your best bet is to go and drive all of them. Even rent them for a weekend to get a real sense of what it would be like as a DD. I personally would buy a Dodge over the other two (I have never owned a Chevy for obvious reasons ha ha) because like you stated they have the Cummins reputation and you get a lot of truck for the price compared to the others.

With that said all of them have their corks and horror stories but that’s what warranties are for. If you do purchase new do not buy the extended warranty on day one as you are covered by the factory warranty for some time. Prior to the factory warranty running out purchase the best extended warranty you can if you plan on keeping the truck. By doing this you are not financing two warranties when one is already paid for and has you covered.

Cost of warranty goes up with miles especially over 12k.

 

[DILLIGAF]

Valid points on the Fords.....Been pretty happy and have owned many Platinum models including the new diesels. I just thought for the money Dodge would be a good choice to look at.

If I did go with Ford probably would not go with another Platinum.

I am going to go do a test drive on a Dodge.

 

[Icky]

The new 2500s come with coils in the rear, you can get the leaf springs still in the 3500 package.

 

[Runs2rch]

The 2500 is going to ride much nicer around town. Still rated to pull 17k. The Trans to me shifts seamlessly. Tow haul mode works like it should.

The 3500 you do get the HO Cummins, Aisin and rear leafs. I bet with 35-40 psi it would ride fine.

 

[Cole Trickle]

I nearly bought a 2018 2500 4x4 Larime a couple weeks back. I would say the interior and extras were nicer than our 2014 LTZ Silverado. (stereo sounded way better than Bose and I liked the push start and keyless entry)

https://www.hbchryslerdodgejeepram....e-county-7edf10df0a0e0a6b2b64b1934585bc38.htm

They are 5K more right now than they were right after Black Friday.

I thought the truck was extremely nice and would have had zero issues going dodge if I could have made the deal work.

 

[boatpi]

One thing you did not post is how much weight you were playing on towing that has a lot to do with your truck choice

If it's not excessive some of the new half tons will probably do quite well especially the Ford F150 diesel.

It's all about weight.

 

[boatpi]

On the Ford F2 50 lariat ultimate package has several thousand less than a platinum and has 98% of the content on the platinum you're very limited on paint choices but it's essentially the same truck.

And if you go with a three-quarter ton just about nobody gets gas, dealers don't stock many and they can't Hardly give them away and they depreciate like a lead weight.

 

[pronstar]

My 2007 Ram 2500 CTD was the best vehicle I’ve ever owned.

It took a lot of money and time with Carli to get it to ride nice (new trucks with coils are better in this regard), but I regret selling it.

These days, I don’t totally trust that FCA has long-term durability in mind with any vehicle they produce, but that’s just opinion and not based on known facts.

If budget wasn’t a concern, I’d still do it all again with a new Ram, and take it straight to Carli to install 3” Kings...


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[riverroyal]

Dont change. When you need the ford message me. I gotta a solid guy

 

[RichL]

Owned a '12 3500 and was very happy. When it was crushed I didn't hesitate to buy a '16. It pulls the 292 Fastech without any issue.

 

[SOCALCRICKETT]

My vote would be the dodge or gm. I just bought a ccsb gmc last year with the gas motor. Love the truck, best decision.

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[boatpi]

If it works, this is a great truck, basically the same engine in Range Rover, larger crank and Turbo, 9 speed tranny. I get 31-37 MPG non tow and 21 MPG towing with a flat 4,200 pound load.
https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/2018/features/Capability/f150-towing-capacity/

the diesel will tow up to 1,400 pounds. https://www.ford.com/services/assets/Brochure?bodystyle=Truck&make=Ford&model=F-150&year=2019

 

[TripleB]

Drive them all and pick what you like, they all make good HD trucks right now

 

[riverroyal]

31 to 37 mpg? Jeezus. Maybe i shoulda waited for it

 

[lbhsbz]

I'm not sure the headaches of a modern diesel are worth it if you're only towing occasionally. Since you're a Ford guy...I'd probably buy a used beater for a few grand for the time being and wait until Ford gets their new 7.3L gasser on the road...then buy one of those.

 

[RVR2SNO]

I have a 2012 2500 CC Short Bed Laramie. Cummins HO with the 68RFE and 90K miles. I bought it brand new, push it to the max and it hasn’t fought back.

We’re ordering a new, bigger 5th wheel in a January so I am considering selling for a new 3500 dually with the Aisin. Was at HB CDJR last week pricing them out. I’d buy another Ram without hesitation! My 2008 F250 with the 6.4L PSD was junk.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

Massage seats on the way to the river sure sound nice... I’d probably go alumiduty.

 

[was thatguy]

I’m a Chevy guy all the way...UNTIL it comes to HD trucks.
I will only own Dodge.

My buddies have duramax’s, have driven and rode in a bunch of them.

All the outfits that have provided me a work truck have been F250 and F350, so I’ve driven a lot of them as well.
No thanks.
My 2 Cummins Dodges (a 5.9 and a 6.7) had zero tranny issues, nothing ever fell apart or rattled, and the ‘08 with the factory Jake brake and manual auto was a joy to drive and tow with.
The best part was that each truck was thousands of dollars cheaper than similar year Ford and Chevy’s at the time, and it they smoked them on mileage hands down. (I bought each truck one year old as fleet trade in’s with about 25K miles on each)
Price and fuel mileage was the deciding factor on the first truck, after that I was hooked.
I do not understand why an individual would pay more for less, other than strictly brand loyalty.
Like I said before, Ford fleet rates must be incredibly lower than individual invoices.

 

[JD D05]

I’m a Chevy guy all the way...UNTIL it comes to HD trucks.
I will only own Dodge.

My buddies have duramax’s, have driven and rode in a bunch of them.

All the outfits that have provided me a work truck have been F250 and F350, so I’ve driven a lot of them as well.
No thanks.
My 2 Cummins Dodges (a 5.7 and a 6.4) had zero tranny issues, nothing ever fell apart or rattled, and the ‘08 with the factory Jake brake and manual auto was a joy to drive and tow with.
The best part was that each truck was thousands of dollars cheaper than similar year Ford and Chevy’s at the time, and it they smoked them on mileage hands down. (I bought each truck one year old as fleet trade in’s with about 25K miles on each)
Price and fuel mileage was the deciding factor on the first truck, after that I was hooked.
I do not understand why an individual would pay more for less, other than strictly brand loyalty.
Like I said before, Ford fleet rates must be incredibly lower than individual invoices.

I agree with 99% of what you post but you are just plain wrong on this truck stuff. 5.7 and a 6.4???? Huh. No rattles in the Dodge holy shit man. The dodge trans especially in the 06 to whatever is a slushbox, mine slipped when it was stock. When the dump truck had to lock them up to not kill me due to death wobble in my 12 I was over it.

 

[COCA COLA COWBOY]

I have a 2018 Ram Dually which has not had one issue. I wouldn't hesitate buying another. I've had the Duramax in the past which was very good as well, but so far I prefer the Cummins.

 

[was thatguy]

I agree with 99% of what you post but you are just plain wrong on this truck stuff. 5.7 and a 6.4???? Huh. No rattles in the Dodge holy shit man. The dodge trans especially in the 06 to whatever is a slushbox, mine slipped when it was stock. When the dump truck had to lock them up to not kill me due to death wobble in my 12 I was over it.

Yeah I dyslexia’d out on the sizes!
Sorry about that!

I’ve heard the horror stories, but that was not my experience.

The last F250 work truck I drove was a 2012.
I nearly died in that thing from a death wobble. The oncoming traffic saw it and they all moved out of the way.

My ‘08 Ram had the front end recall work done, but never had the wobble before that.

 

[JD D05]

Yeah I dyslexia’d out on the sizes!
Sorry about that!

I’ve heard the horror stories, but that was not my experience.

The last F250 work truck I drove was a 2012.
I nearly died in that thing from a death wobble. The oncoming traffic saw it and they all moved out of the way.

My ‘08 Ram had the front end recall work done, but never had the wobble before that.

My 2012 Ford never even hinted at it but it was stock with a 35. They can all do it no doubt. Even the new Ford's do it but that is due to shitty lift kits.

 

[was thatguy]

My 2012 Ford never even hinted at it but it was stock with a 35. They can all do it no doubt. Even the new Ford's do it but that is due to shitty lift kits.

I was always waiting for one of the things to go wrong that I always heard and read about the Dodges, but they just never happened.

 

[JD D05]

I was always waiting for one of the things to go wrong that I always heard and read about the Dodges, but they just never happened.

Dodges are good I like them and have owned them, still do.

 

[welldigger00]

You never see hot shot haulers running anything but dodge. You also never hear of anyone dropping a duramax or power stroke engine in anything.


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[Enen]

I literally just settled my lawsuit against Chrysler today. I had a similar thought a few years ago. Thought I'd roll with a Dodge and wait for the new Ford to be released. ( 2016). My truck was about the biggest piece of shit I've ever owned.
There were things I liked about the truck, but the problems it had far outweighed the benefits.

The Cummins ( assuming you get a good one, I didn't) is a great engine. Makes tons of power, and will tow almost anything you'd ever want. The 3/4 ton comes with a lower power rating and Chrysler's 68RFE Transmission. It's a shitbox transmission. The jokes about Ram's transmission problems are funny,..... because they are true. Mine was in getting the trans fixed last week. It was stuck in 4th gear.
The Aisin (sp) is the upgraded HD transmission. I believe its only available in the 3500's.

I'm not sure you could talk me into buying another Ram,..... ever.

 

[tunnel vision]

Been a loyal Ford owner since 1988, bought my first diesel in 96, then in 2002, 2007 & 2008. the 2008 was an F450 pickup and honestly the worst vehicle I have ever owned. Lost the first engine at 34K and it was out of warranty by time not mileage and it cost me $17k to put a new engine in it. Lost the second engine at 74k and gave up!.

Bought a new Ram 3500 cc dually, Laramie, Aisin trans, air ride, 30k hitch and every option available. However my Ford 6.4 had more power, if this new Cummins is 930 ft of torque then my 6.4 was 1500!

 

[530RL]

I literally just settled my lawsuit against Chrysler today. I had a similar thought a few years ago. Thought I'd roll with a Dodge and wait for the new Ford to be released. ( 2016). My truck was about the biggest piece of shit I've ever owned.
There were things I liked about the truck, but the problems it had far outweighed the benefits.

The Cummins ( assuming you get a good one, I didn't) is a great engine. Makes tons of power, and will tow almost anything you'd ever want. The 3/4 ton comes with a lower power rating and Chrysler's 68RFE Transmission. It's a shitbox transmission. The jokes about Ram's transmission problems are funny,..... because they are true. Mine was in getting the trans fixed last week. It was stuck in 4th gear.
The Aisin (sp) is the upgraded HD transmission. I believe its only available in the 3500's.

I'm not sure you could talk me into buying another Ram,..... ever.

Time to go see Berge and order yourself a new F250 exactly as you want it.

 

[WhatExit?]

Just read a review of the three mfr's 1500 models with Ram coming in 1st and Ford 2nd (it was close). Chevy finished a distant 3rd and was panned hard by the reviewers

 

[JD D05]

You never see hot shot haulers running anything but dodge. You also never hear of anyone dropping a duramax or power stroke engine in anything.


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That's because they are wanna be truckers that like to have sex on tractors. Conversions became popular because of the 7.3 and the 6.0. Yes the 6.0 was the world's first diesel powered coolant pump.

 

[was thatguy]

Time to go see Berge and order yourself a new F250 exactly as you want it.

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[Enen]

Time to go see Berge and order yourself a new F250 exactly as you want it.

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I'm going to wait for a bit. Probably the end of Q1 before I jump into another truck. We are living lean in our household for awhile.

 

[CLdrinker]

If I was ballin and didn’t have to tow a ton of weight I get a 6.4 power wagon hands down

 

[LowRiver2]

For long term ownership I’d go RAM. My 12’ Pstroke has been great but the way they shoved the engine so far back in the Alumiduty, it’s going to be cab off time for long term/ repairs, rebuilds. Exact reason City of LA went from ford to RAM on ambulances, along with cost savings.

 

[was thatguy]

For long term ownership I’d go RAM. My 12’ Pstroke has been great but the way they shoved the engine so far back in the Alumiduty, it’s going to be cab off time for long term/ repairs, rebuilds. Exact reason City of LA went from ford to RAM on ambulances, along with cost savings.

The good thing is that most mechanics are really good at pulling the cabs... they do it all day long.

 

[JD D05]

For long term ownership I’d go RAM. My 12’ Pstroke has been great but the way they shoved the engine so far back in the Alumiduty, it’s going to be cab off time for long term/ repairs, rebuilds. Exact reason City of LA went from ford to RAM on ambulances, along with cost savings.

It takes less time to take the cab off the disassemble the front end with the bumper radiator etc etc it isn't really where the motor is placed. Injectors, turbo's can be done cab on. Basically if motor needs to be pulled easier to remove cab.

 

[Singleton]

End of the day, they all have + and -, so pick the one you like and go drive the wheels off it until it is stolen.

 

[pronstar]

Death wobble is a big issue with any live axle front end. Jeep, Dodge and Ford forums are full of stories.

Jeep has a TSB out for the JK about it.


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[LowRiver2]

It takes less time to take the cab off the disassemble the front end with the bumper radiator etc etc it isn't really where the motor is placed. Injectors, turbo's can be done cab on. Basically if motor needs to be pulled easier to remove cab.

Yeah but a city doesn’t want to do that for time to get the vehicle back on the road. The Cummins is basically a tractor engine from a repair stand point, much faster to get to. And less bolts to take off the better, lol.

 

[JD D05]

Yeah but a city doesn’t want to do that for time to get the vehicle back on the road. The Cummins is basically a tractor engine from a repair stand point, much faster to get to. And less bolts to take off the better, lol.

It is 100% a tractor engine

 

[LowRiver2]

For most that own a diesel new to 7 years, sub 150k miles, they will all be fine. Start idling them hours on end, cold starts, over 200k miles, all will need service and time to get service done equals money, whether by customer or less work trucks to get jobs done, all I’m saying.