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[DILLIGAF]

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[RiverDave]

If it had two giant props then most likely it was

 

[Deja_Vu]

[video=youtube_https;xnOw3clRIoI]https://youtu.be/xnOw3clRIoI[/video]

Here is a good vid of the Osprey.

 

[BoatCop]

Believe it or not, the Marines drop in there all the time for cold drinks. (Sodas, Gatorade, etc) They call it "emergency landing site familiarization". :rolleyes

 

[Ziggy]

Only thing I've seen land at Chiriaco is the CHP airplane.

 

[Scott E]

Only thing I've seen land at Chiriaco is the CHP airplane.

Last trip out we saw a plane land and an Exempt CA plated vehicle drive up to the gate, guy gets out with a cooler of some sort, walks to plan, hands him the cooler, and off the plane goes. Whole exchange was less than 30 seconds.

 

[Rvrluvr]

I fly my kids there a couple times a year. We go on friday or sunday and get an ice cream at Foster Freeze. We watch all the crazy kids then fly home. Its an interesting place to say the least.

 

[Sandlord]

last time I went through there I saw a skycrane carrying pipeline

 

[socalrzr]

Believe it or not, the Marines drop in there all the time for cold drinks. (Sodas, Gatorade, etc) They call it "emergency landing site familiarization". :rolleyes

I have seen a military huey land off Gecko Rd in glamis and everyone jump out and wave down an ice cream truck. Im sure that probably wasnt the first time either.

 

[530RL]

Here is a good vid of the Osprey.

Nicknamed the "Widowmaker"

Note the President is not allowed to ride in an Osprey. The former President's dog Bo did once, certainly the media, but not yet a President..........

Osprey's do drop into Chiriaco.

[video=youtube;cVa_lZ_B9Vc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVa_lZ_B9Vc[/video]

 

[WaterMike]

Last trip out we saw a plane land and an Exempt CA plated vehicle drive up to the gate, guy gets out with a cooler of some sort, walks to plan, hands him the cooler, and off the plane goes. Whole exchange was less than 30 seconds.

Water samples for water quality testing, happens once a week. Eagle Mt and Hayfield pumping stations make their own water off CRA water.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

I have seen this maybe three times. Pretty alien looking in the distance. Definitly an Osprey. I thought they grounded those for safety reasons.

Hardly. They've been in full deployment since 2007.

 

[530RL]

Hardly. They've been in full deployment since 2007.

True but until they let the president trounce around in one, I am gonna take a pass on any invites..........

http://www.aviation.com/general-aviation/president-still-cant-fly-v-22-osprey/

 

[BoatCop]

They're in Parker all the time. IDIS Corp. utilizes the Osprey, along with C-130s, C-123s, various choppers and other aircraft for Jump training.

Here's a vid that Mike took a few years ago.


[video=youtube;qA3gT52KBLI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA3gT52KBLI[/video]

 

[Sleek-Jet]

True but until they let the president trounce around in one, I am gonna take a pass on any invites..........

http://www.aviation.com/general-aviation/president-still-cant-fly-v-22-osprey/

The main reason the Pres doesn't ride one is they can't land it on the south lawn. So it's easier to pack the H-3s around and maintain two airframe types instead of three.

Besides he doesn't need the mission capabilities the airframe offers.

 

[Ziggy]

True but until they let the president trounce around in one, I am gonna take a pass on any invites..........

http://www.aviation.com/general-aviation/president-still-cant-fly-v-22-osprey/

I thought they grounded them for a while after the Hawaii accident couple years ago?

 

[530RL]

The main reason the Pres doesn't ride one is they can't land it on the south lawn. So it's easier to pack the H-3s around and maintain two airframe types instead of three.

Besides he doesn't need the mission capabilities the airframe offers.

They have twelve in the presidential HMX1 fleet, but never has the president flown in one. Twelve white top V22's that they maintain in the HMX1 fleet. I can't imagine in all the missions they have needed rotary airlift the V22 would not be appropriate for the President unless they don't want him in one? They have repeatedly used them in conjunction with VH-3's and VH60's flying the president taking off and landing the V22's from the same locations world wide. They even have two dedicated simulators for V22's in HMX1.

You might be right, and I agree they are too big for the South Lawn without cutting down some trees, but given all the missions necessary for the President worldwide and a President has never ridden in any of the twelve available and maintained makes me scratch my head?

 

[Deja_Vu]

Nicknamed the "Widowmaker"

Note the President is not allowed to ride in an Osprey. The former President's dog Bo did once, certainly the media, but not yet a President..........

Osprey's do drop into Chiriaco.

[video=youtube;cVa_lZ_B9Vc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVa_lZ_B9Vc[/video]

I worked on the APU that rotates the nacelles back in 1986.

I have seen this maybe three times. Pretty alien looking in the distance. Definitly an Osprey. I thought they grounded those for safety reasons.

I thought they grounded them for a while after the Hawaii accident couple years ago?

They did ground all the Ospreys back in 2000 after an accident in Arizona.

April 2000 (Per Wiki)

A V-22 loaded with Marines, to simulate a rescue, attempted to land at Marana Northwest Regional Airport in Arizona on 8 April 2000. It descended faster than normal (over 2,000 ft/min or 10 m/s) from an unusually high altitude with a forward speed of under 45 miles per hour (72 km/h) when it suddenly stalled its right rotor at 245 feet (75 m), rolled over, crashed, and exploded, killing all 19 on board.[8][9]

The cause was determined to be vortex ring state (VRS), a fundamental limitation on vertical descent which is common to helicopters. At the time of the mishap, the V-22's flight operations rules restricted the Osprey to a descent rate of 800 feet per minute (4.1 m/s) at airspeeds below 40 knots (74 km/h) (restrictions typical of helicopters); the crew of the V-22 in question exceeded this operating restriction with a rate more than 100% greater.[10] Another factor that may have triggered VRS was their operating in close proximity, which is believed to be a risk factor for VRS in helicopters. Subsequent testing has shown that the V-22, and the tiltrotor in general, is less susceptible to VRS, the conditions are easily recognized by the pilots; recovery from VRS requires a more natural action by the pilot than recovery in helicopters, the altitude loss is significantly less than for helicopters, and, with sufficient altitude (2,000 ft or 610 m or more), VRS recovery is relatively easy.[1]

As a result of testing, the V-22 will have a descent envelope as large as or larger than most helicopters, further enhancing its ability to enter and depart hostile landing zones quickly and safely. The project team also dealt with the problem by adding a simultaneous warning light and voice that says "Sink Rate" when the V-22 approaches half of the VRS-vulnerable descent rate.[1]

 

[coolchange]

Only thing I've seen land at Chiriaco is the CHP airplane.

Got lit up by that plane once. Up the summit towing a boat doin about 85. My brother was driving. I said i think that plane is pacing you and lighting us up. We slowed and he turned his light off and turned back the other way.

 

[Sleek-Jet]

They have twelve in the presidential HMX1 fleet, but never has the president flown in one. Twelve white top V22's that they maintain in the HMX1 fleet. I can't imagine in all the missions they have needed rotary airlift the V22 would not be appropriate for the President unless they don't want him in one? They have repeatedly used them in conjunction with VH-3's and VH60's flying the president taking off and landing the V22's from the same locations world wide. They even have two dedicated simulators for V22's in HMX1.

You might be right, and I agree they are too big for the South Lawn without cutting down some trees, but given all the missions necessary for the President worldwide and a President has never ridden in any of the twelve available and maintained makes me scratch my head?

A quick look at the all knowing Wikipedia shows the HMX-1 replaced their VC-53 airframes with the V-22. So it essentially a cargo hauler. I'm not suprised his high hollines doesn't ride in one, this sling seats are uncomfortable and not biggly at all.

 

[Ziggy]

Got lit up by that plane once. Up the summit towing a boat doin about 85. My brother was driving. I said i think that plane is pacing you and lighting us up. We slowed and he turned his light off and turned back the other way.

I was driving east one time and spotted the plane ahead of me going the same direction. We passed Chiriaco then down the hill, at the Hayfield overpass there were multiple cars pulled over. Boom. I made it through the chp flytrap[emoji1] [emoji23] [emoji41]

 

[DILLIGAF]

I worked on the APU that rotates the nacelles back in 1986.






They did ground all the Ospreys back in 2000 after an accident in Arizona.

April 2000 (Per Wiki)

A V-22 loaded with Marines, to simulate a rescue, attempted to land at Marana Northwest Regional Airport in Arizona on 8 April 2000. It descended faster than normal (over 2,000 ft/min or 10 m/s) from an unusually high altitude with a forward speed of under 45 miles per hour (72 km/h) when it suddenly stalled its right rotor at 245 feet (75 m), rolled over, crashed, and exploded, killing all 19 on board.[8][9]

The cause was determined to be vortex ring state (VRS), a fundamental limitation on vertical descent which is common to helicopters. At the time of the mishap, the V-22's flight operations rules restricted the Osprey to a descent rate of 800 feet per minute (4.1 m/s) at airspeeds below 40 knots (74 km/h) (restrictions typical of helicopters); the crew of the V-22 in question exceeded this operating restriction with a rate more than 100% greater.[10] Another factor that may have triggered VRS was their operating in close proximity, which is believed to be a risk factor for VRS in helicopters. Subsequent testing has shown that the V-22, and the tiltrotor in general, is less susceptible to VRS, the conditions are easily recognized by the pilots; recovery from VRS requires a more natural action by the pilot than recovery in helicopters, the altitude loss is significantly less than for helicopters, and, with sufficient altitude (2,000 ft or 610 m or more), VRS recovery is relatively easy.[1]

As a result of testing, the V-22 will have a descent envelope as large as or larger than most helicopters, further enhancing its ability to enter and depart hostile landing zones quickly and safely. The project team also dealt with the problem by adding a simultaneous warning light and voice that says "Sink Rate" when the V-22 approaches half of the VRS-vulnerable descent rate.[1]

Thank you for that. I knew I heard that before about the grounding. Didn't know they dealt with it and moved on.

 

[duck660]

I have seen a military huey land off Gecko Rd in glamis and everyone jump out and wave down an ice cream truck. Im sure that probably wasnt the first time either.

MCAS Yuma Search and Rescue. They are about to be decommissioned. Response will be turned over to contract Life Flight, Care Flight etc...

 

[NicPaus]

MCAS Yuma Search and Rescue. They are about to be decommissioned. Response will be turned over to contract Life Flight, Care Flight etc...

Over a ice cream?

 

[rrrr]

Believe it or not, the Marines drop in there all the time for cold drinks. (Sodas, Gatorade, etc) They call it "emergency landing site familiarization". :rolleyes

When I was a 10 year old kid we lived on the eastern edge of Holbrook, AZ. It's halfway between Flagstaff and Gallup, NM. Our house and my dad's commercial sheet metal shop were on a wide dirt road about 200 yards south of US 66. He had a bunch of BIA work on the reservation. The shop was a satellite of his main shop in Albuquerque.

One day in the summer of 1967 while I was playing outside, I heard the sound of helicopters approaching from the east. A couple of minutes later a squadron of UH-1 Hueys circled and landed on the dirt road, about 50 yards from the house. There were eight or ten of them.

The pilots and crew got out and walked over to the big Shell truck stop that was on the corner of 66 and the dirt road to get a meal. When they came back one of the pilots told me they were flying from the Bell helicopter plant in Arlington, TX through Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque, and on to Long Beach. The helicopters were then going to be loaded onto a ship for transport to Vietnam.

It was way cool and exciting stuff for a ten year old.

 

[duck660]

Over a ice cream?

That's funny. No, Lack of USMC money to keep the old H 1's flying... so in typical DoD fashion, USMC will spend about $15M/year for contract services. Explain that logic???

 

[ONE-A-DAY]

My son is in a attack squadron out of Pendleton, the glamis store is one of their regular stops for snacks and a bathroom break.

 

[pwerwagn]

I watch ospreys allllll day long at work. They still fly the out of KAFB. My wife's uncle runs the sim's here and has taken my boys in to fly the sim.

They're pretty cool to watch. The do a lot of maneuvers to the south of KAFB.

 

[FROGMAN524]

Not to derail this thread but after clicking on the Osprey thread the next video that popped up was this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okf4HJ-eD3I#t=12.393619

Isn't this UncleDave on here?

 

[boatpi]

UH1, wow, I probably spent 100+ hours in one of those during the 1984 Olympics well working for LAPD their support division. Those army pilots are a little crazy.

 

[CornWater]

Not good... [emoji53]
Wreckage of U.S. military plane fou...age-of-us-military-plane-found-off-australia/

 

[DILLIGAF]

Not good... [emoji53]
Wreckage of U.S. military plane fou...age-of-us-military-plane-found-off-australia/

I heard about that one and thought of this thread.

RIP!