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Anyone know Ted Lauth? He was in El Segundo for a long time before he was transferred to Palmdale. He was on the F35 induction area as well.
 

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Haven't heard of Ted, but who knows, I might end up working in Palmdale.
 

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Did any of you guys do initial testing for the C-17? My grandfather was the lead engine test guy. I know they did a lot of their work out near Quartzsite.
 

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What division?
He was on the quality control side of things towards final delivery. Worked on the flight deck all the time. I'd have to ask him what his final title was but he worked his way up from the McDonnell Douglas days to Boeing.
 

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It was pretty cool. Very challenging project. I worked on the main combustion chamber and nozzle.
They use 24k gold foil to braze 4130 stainless steel jacket to the NArloyZ copper liner in a HIP furnace while pulling a vacuum to obtain a superior bond.

I have a pic of me standing next to the F-1 engine. We would spend a lot of time looking on how things were done on the F-1 back then so we wouldn't reinvent the wheel.
Unfortunately since then, the Canoga facility was sold off and the F-1 removed and put into storage.

If you like liquid rocket engines, you should check out the Aerospike or the X-33 linear aerospike engines. Very cool stuff.



I always thought it was incredible that Rocketdyne brazed the coolant channels to the combustion nozzle and extension of the F-1 in a huge furnace as you described.
 

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I always thought it was incredible that Rocketdyne brazed the coolant channels to the combustion nozzle and extension of the F-1 in a huge furnace as you described.

Yes sir, that is how its done.
They have different alloys with different melting temps. If they miss a bond on the first pass, they can do a secondary braze with a lower temp...and a third.
What's also cool is when they dip the combustion liner and throat support assembly in a tank of Liquid Nitrogen to shrink it down to install it into the outer jacket.

Just got off the phone with my ex manager of Combustion Devises design over there.
He's going to try to hire me back! Hopefully we can work something out.
 

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Yes sir, that is how its done.
They have different alloys with different melting temps. If they miss a bond on the first pass, they can do a secondary braze with a lower temp...and a third.
What's also cool is when they dip the combustion liner and throat support assembly in a tank of Liquid Nitrogen to shrink it down to install it into the outer jacket.

Just got off the phone with my ex manager of Combustion Devises design over there.
He's going to try to hire me back! Hopefully we can work something out.

Wow. The nitrogen bath something I didn't know about. The photos I've seen of ten or twelve F-1 engines on the floor in final assembly at Rocketdyne represent such a huge undertaking it's just mind boggling.

They built somewhere around 65 F-1 engines IIRC. Incredible.
 

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Wow. The nitrogen bath something I didn't know about. The photos I've seen of ten or twelve F-1 engines on the floor in final assembly at Rocketdyne represent such a huge undertaking it's just mind boggling.

They built somewhere around 65 F-1 engines IIRC. Incredible.

Here is a pic of just that back in the heyday...

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That's the photo I was talking about. Way cool.

It looks like that's the line where the interface panel, RP-1 and LOX piping and controls, the turbopump, and gas generator were being mounted to the combustion chamber and nozzle.

The gimbal struts look sorta inadequate to handle 1.5 million lbs of thrust until you compare them to the size of the technicians. They're huge.
 
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He was on the quality control side of things towards final delivery. Worked on the flight deck all the time. I'd have to ask him what his final title was but he worked his way up from the McDonnell Douglas days to Boeing.
My father in law was heavily involved with that project . Started as electrician and moved into upper management .was just curious if they knew each other.
 

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My father in law was heavily involved with that project . Started as electrician and moved into upper management .was just curious if they knew each other.

Shoot me a PM with his name, I will pass it along to my pops and see if they know each other. I'm over due for a call to the old man anyways.
 

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Good News!

Raytheon Missile Systems is flying me to Tucson and putting me up at the Hilton El Conquistador for a hiring event Nov 7 and 8.

My ex manager at Rocketdyne wants me back too. Waiting to see if they get the RS-25 Block upgrade for SLS.

In the mean time I'm making mylar templates for the production line to install fasteners in our new Pred B wing where the robotic driller cant reach.
Its like watching paint dry...lol
Been a while since I manually laid out a flat pattern on compound curvature. Reminds me of my Shuttle centaur days at General Dynamics lol
 

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good for you, the Boeing job will likely pay better, but the Rayjob could last for life.
 

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Good News!

Raytheon Missile Systems is flying me to Tucson and putting me up at the Hilton El Conquistador for a hiring event Nov 7 and 8.

My ex manager at Rocketdyne wants me back too. Waiting to see if they get the RS-25 Block upgrade for SLS.

In the mean time I'm making mylar templates for the production line to install fasteners in our new Pred B wing where the robotic driller cant reach.
Its like watching paint dry...lol
Been a while since I manually laid out a flat pattern on compound curvature. Reminds me of my Shuttle centaur days at General Dynamics lol

Great news! Good luck!
 

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good for you, the Boeing job will likely pay better, but the Rayjob could last for life.
Thank you!
Well Boeing sold Rocketdyne back in 2007 to United Technologies, then UTC sold them to Aerojet in 2013 for $550 mil.
Not sure how well Aerojet treats their staff. Boeing was the best company to work for IMO. UTC sucks, I wont work for them unless I'm a contractor.

Great news! Good luck!
Thank you! I'm excited.
 

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FYI, the Raytheon plant and everything around the airport in Tucson is expanding so much that they are discussing a new freeway spur from Rita Ranch (I-10) to Rancho Sahuarita (I-19) with Raytheon right in the middle.
 

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FYI, the Raytheon plant and everything around the airport in Tucson is expanding so much that they are discussing a new freeway spur from Rita Ranch (I-10) to Rancho Sahuarita (I-19) with Raytheon right in the middle.
Thanks for the info! I need to figure out what part of town I want to live in. Was thinking about Oro Valley but don't want a long commute.
 
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