COLLEGE FOOTBALL starts!!!.......

[djunkie]

My guess is that Barkely will not play. ND may catch a break.

The way it sounds you're probably right.


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[HOOTER SLED-]

So we'll get to see how much BCS is on the SEC nuts when the rankings come out tomorrow. Let's reflect..........

Bama #1 loses to #15 A&M and only falls 3 spots to #4 after. And Bama got slapped around the whole game.

#2 Oregon loses to #13 Stanford in what was actually a good, tight game OT game. We'll see how far they fall. Behind all the other 1 loss teams? Sure, it sucks to lose late in the season.


But IMO, Bama should have fallen below Georgia, and Florida.

 

[playdeep]

I think SC is better than an average team when they are consistent. Which they haven't been. In all their losses, they did not get blown out. With the exception of Arizona (and I don't think they are horrible...just another young inconsistent team), they loss to worthy opponents. The PAC 12 is competitive, still underrated IMO. Stanford showed that tonight by beating Oregon. Stanford.... classic underrated team that showed they have what it takes to shut down a high scoring offense.

USC has beaten 2 teams with a winning record...
Syracuse&Washington....hmm.
Pre~season numero imo.
I agree,I think the PAC 12 is somewhat underrated.
That said,
I think Oregon...would be mid pack in the SEC.They don't seem capable of beating big physical teams.
....think Stanford exposed that.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

USC has beaten 2 teams with a winning record...
Syracuse&Washington....hmm.
Pre~season numero imo.
I agree,I think the PAC 12 is somewhat underrated.
That said,
I think Oregon...would be mid pack in the SEC.They don't seem capable of beating big physical teams.
....think Stanford exposed that.

3 winning teams............. Syracuse, Wash., and ASU.
Pre-season..........WAAAY too much hype on them. Even I don't think they should have had that ranking.
I disagree with Oregon. Stanford is just the team who had the right defensive mix to slow them down. They did the same thing to USC. I think Oregon did not show the urgency tonight. They are so used to putting up points cuz it comes so easy. They should have stuck with their fast tempo and aimed to tire the D. I don't think they did that tonight. And if Bama would have faced Oregon, the result would have been similar to what A&M did to them. They couldn't cover that spread and the mobility of Johnny Football. Mariota would be much the same plus the speed of the offense.

 

[HBCraig]

So we'll get to see how much BCS is on the SEC nuts when the rankings come out tomorrow. Let's reflect..........

Bama #1 loses to #15 A&M and only falls 3 spots to #4 after. And Bama got slapped around the whole game.

#2 Oregon loses to #13 Stanford in what was actually a good, tight game OT game. We'll see how far they fall. Behind all the other 1 loss teams? Sure, it sucks to lose late in the season.


But IMO, Bama should have fallen below Georgia, and Florida.

If you dont think the top SEC teams are the top, go to vegas and check the lines. They arent wrong. :cool The bottom line is, you have to play tough teams.

 

[DILLIGAF]

No way no how.... Giants still suck! I like how your boys don't wanna keep Melky around now. It's on next year. Enjoy your "moment". Lol

The tri-fecta or possibly a fourfecta (lol) is about to happen.....

My SF Giants World Champions
My ND team soon to be #1
My Clippers dismantling everybody and a legit contender
SF 49'ers looking good and alegit contender
Only team not doing very well is my Vikings but they are hanging around

Ya....its the end of the world

 

[HBCraig]

The tri-fecta or possibly a fourfecta (lol) is about to happen.....

My SF Giants World Champions
My ND team soon to be #1
My Clippers dismantling everybody and a legit contender
SF 49'ers looking good and alegit contender
Only team not doing very well is my Vikings but they are hanging around

Ya....its the end of the world

So, you grew up in Indiana, SF and Minnesota? :cool

 

[DILLIGAF]

So, you grew up in Indiana, SF and Minnesota? :cool

Born in GA....lived in Colorado, OK, N CA (100 miles south of SF in Monterey area) and our family is from West Virginia. I remember watching the ND football replays on Sunday mornings on the local channel in Monterey. My son follows the same teams except for the Vikings. Also loved watching the OK-TX games when they were big time.

 

[mariley85]

Mariota is nothing like Manziel.

 

[Stainless]

Lou Holtz will be beaming if they get the #1 spot.


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[HOOTER SLED-]

The tri-fecta or possibly a fourfecta (lol) is about to happen.....

My SF Giants World Champions
My ND team soon to be #1
My Clippers dismantling everybody and a legit contender
SF 49'ers looking good and alegit contender
Only team not doing very well is my Vikings but they are hanging around

Ya....its the end of the world

How bout them Angels?
ND will go down if Barkley is 100%............ and they definetely will go down if they face Bama. Although I would rather see them beat Bama. I don't hate ND that much.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Mariota is nothing like Manziel.

I think Mariota is getting no love at all. He's not perfect. But look at Oregon's season and the scoring onslaught they've had. Who the hell you think was at the wheel all season? The media tends to get all over the nuts of these QB's when they knock off one good team or have one good outing. The Heisman talk starts getting thrown around prematurely. Look at Geno Smith. Where's he at now? WV is focking 5-5. They were all over his nuts cuz they beat Baylor 70-63, then barely squeeks by Texas, then what? 5 game skid. It should be all about consistency and the performance of the WHOLE season.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Lou Holtz will be beaming if they get the #1 spot.


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They already have the AP #1 spot.

 

[mariley85]

Lou Holtz is senile. The stuff that comes out of his head blows my mind.

 

[ultrajet]

I think Mariota is getting no love at all. He's not perfect. But look at Oregon's season and the scoring onslaught they've had. Who the hell you think was at the wheel all season? The media tends to get all over the nuts of these QB's when they knock off one good team or have one good outing. The Heisman talk starts getting thrown around prematurely. Look at Geno Smith. Where's he at now? WV is focking 5-5. They were all over his nuts cuz they beat Baylor 70-63, then barely squeeks by Texas, then what? 5 game skid. It should be all about consistency and the performance of the WHOLE season.

From the penthouse to the outhouse in 1 week. That's the way it is these days with the hyper media. Mariota is pretty damned good. He got rattled last night but he's only a freshman. He'll learn from it and get better.

 

[mariley85]

He's good, sure, but Manziel is still light years ahead.

 

[mariley85]

 

[ultrajet]

I just became the biggest SC/UCLA fan in 1 week. I would love to see Oregon get a shot at Bama. Notre Lame will lose by 30 against the Tide.

 

[djunkie]

I just became the biggest SC/UCLA fan in 1 week. I would love to see Oregon get a shot at Bama. Notre Lame will lose by 30 against the Tide.

So will Oregon.

 

[HBCraig]

So will Oregon.

They had a shot against an SEC team two years ago in the championship. That didnt work out well for the Ducks.

 

[Hammer]

They had a shot against an SEC team two years ago in the championship. That didnt work out well for the Ducks.

Poor play calling , just like the Stanford game . Best team in the nation IMO

 

[playdeep]

I just became the biggest SC/UCLA fan in 1 week. I would love to see Oregon get a shot at Bama. Notre Lame will lose by 30 against the Tide.

Revisionist history of a hater...to refresh you're memory...
Oregon loses to Stanford...
NOTRE Dame beat Stanford.

Oregon seems to have trouble with fast/physical defenses.

 

[HBCraig]

Poor play calling , just like the Stanford game . Best team in the nation IMO

Getting beatdown play after play will make it look like that sometimes. Playing the PAC12 north just doesnt prepare you for the SEC.

 

[ultrajet]

Getting beatdown play after play will make it look like that sometimes. Playing the PAC12 north just doesnt prepare you for the SEC.

Oh please. You SEC guys can have your little circle jerk all you want. Oregon lost a game in OT, big deal. Far cry from a beatdown. Maybe they should get smarter and schedule all their patsie games in Nov. like SEC teams do. :rolleyes. You can bet your ass Saban does not want to prepare for the Ducks.

 

[ultrajet]

They had a shot against an SEC team two years ago in the championship. That didnt work out well for the Ducks.

Are you serious? That game was won by Auburn on a last second field goal. Here it is 2 years later and Auburn is nothing more than a doormat for the 2-3 SEC teams that are worth a shit.

 

[ultrajet]

Revisionist history of a hater...to refresh you're memory...
Oregon loses to Stanford...
NOTRE Dame beat Stanford.

Oregon seems to have trouble with fast/physical defenses.

Christ, what team doesn't struggle against fast physical defenses? Stanford is pretty good you know. They are not Pitt!

 

[playdeep]

Christ, what team doesn't struggle against fast physical defenses? Stanford is pretty good you know. They are not Pitt!

Somebody still all butt hurt...over losing to a 3 touchdown underdog...
Good news for ya...
Oregon can still go to the Rose bowl...and face a big/plodding/slow Big 10 team,like maybe a 5 loss Wisconsin team
They can beat em by 50...and you can come chest thumping about how badass they are.

Bottom line,
All they had to do was take care of business.
They didn't.

 

[franky]

Fans of SEC get off to being a SEC fan. Break up and redistribute the SEC if you really want to see fair balance judging.

A team in the SEC can have 3 losses and still be in the BCS top 10. They look a lot better than they are because they are only 3 maybe 4 good teams to play.

The SEC plays a specific kind of football and are good at it. However, get them outside of their comfort as in the Alabama - Texas A&M game and you will see what they truly are, a one dimensional football team.

Oregon is another example of a one dimensional team. If their offense doesn't put up 40 plus points they are going to loose the game becasue they have no defense.

USC has no chance against ND especially with Barkley being out. If you want a legitimate well rounded college team this year you only have to look to ND :champagne::champagne:

 

[ultrajet]

Somebody still all butt hurt...over losing to a 3 touchdown underdog...
Good news for ya...
Oregon can still go to the Rose bowl...and face a big/plodding/slow Big 10 team,like maybe a 5 loss Wisconsin team
They can beat em by 50...and you can come chest thumping about how badass they are.

Bottom line,
All they had to do was take care of business.
They didn't.

Actually one thing positive that came out of last Saturday for the ducks is that they will not have to play in the rose bowl this year. With OSU out this game is the weakest of all BCS bowls. If the ducks win Saturday they will likely play in the Fiesta Bowl against probably Kansas st. Or maybe Oklahoma. In a perfect world ND will lose and play the Ducks. Then we will really see how badass that ND defense is wont we

 

[djunkie]

Fans of SEC get off to being a SEC fan. Break up and redistribute the SEC if you really want to see fair balance judging.

A team in the SEC can have 3 losses and still be in the BCS top 10. They look a lot better than they are because they are only 3 maybe 4 good teams to play.

The SEC plays a specific kind of football and are good at it. However, get them outside of their comfort as in the Alabama - Texas A&M game and you will see what they truly are, a one dimensional football team.

Oregon is another example of a one dimensional team. If their offense doesn't put up 40 plus points they are going to loose the game becasue they have no defense.

USC has no chance against ND especially with Barkley being out. If you want a legitimate well rounded college team this year you only have to look to ND :champagne::champagne:

Barkley being out may be a blessing. If Kiffin doesn't handcuff Witteck it may end up being a lot closer game than most are thinking.


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[HBCraig]

We think we are the best?

Yep, we do. All the way to another title. 3-4 good teams? Please. WASU, Washinton, etc? Nice conference. If you run through Bama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Georgia, the real USC and Florida, then talk. I was being somewhat nice, but the PAC 12 is not even the second best conference.

Also, Oregon lost dude. OT, field goal, whatever. You lost. You were beaten by Nick Fairley and Cam Newton. 2 against 22. Whew, now I am tired. :cool

 

[copterzach]

TCU just beat TU. Good day


Aggie class of '97. WHOOP

 

[franky]

:smackhead

We think we are the best?

Yep, we do. All the way to another title. 3-4 good teams? Please. WASU, Washinton, etc? Nice conference. If you run through Bama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Georgia, the real USC and Florida, then talk. I was being somewhat nice, but the PAC 12 is not even the second best conference.

Also, Oregon lost dude. OT, field goal, whatever. You lost. You were beaten by Nick Fairley and Cam Newton. 2 against 22. Whew, now I am tired. :cool

:smackhead you missed the point entirely, you can not play out of conference once every five years and say you are clearly better than everyone else. Go take a nap. :champagne::champagne:

 

[HBCraig]

:smackhead

:smackhead you missed the point entirely, you can not play out of conference once every five years and say you are clearly better than everyone else. Go take a nap. :champagne::champagne:

I said I was tired, notice the smiley face? Auburn might as well be in the local Community College conference.... :grumble:

 

[ultrajet]

Yep, we do. All the way to another title. 3-4 good teams? Please. WASU, Washinton, etc? Nice conference. If you run through Bama, Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Georgia, the real USC and Florida, then talk. I was being somewhat nice, but the PAC 12 is not even the second best conference.

Also, Oregon lost dude. OT, field goal, whatever. You lost. You were beaten by Nick Fairley and Cam Newton. 2 against 22. Whew, now I am tired. :cool

HB Craig are you seriously still jerking it to that last second win over the Ducks TWO years ago? Geesh! Seriously you are an SEC homer. I realize the SEC is a great conference but the the reality is that ole miss, msu, Kentucky, vanderbilt, Missouri, Arkansas, tennessee, and yeah good ole Auburn suck balls this year.

 

[playdeep]

I said I was tired, notice the smiley face? Auburn might as well be in the local Community College conference.... :grumble:

Just curious...
With Chizic<sp about to be shown the door,and now the NCAA looking into allegations,who's Auburn gonna target to fill the coaching vacancy?

 

[franky]

ultrajet...you took the words out of my mouth. If a last second field goal is how you show domination over another conference...I would reevaluate my life... There are a few great teams in the SEC. The rest of them are garbage. At least in most other conferences, Conference games actually mean something, and are relatively good.

 

[ultrajet]

ultrajet...you took the words out of my mouth. If a last second field goal is how you show domination over another conference...I would reevaluate my life... There are a few great teams in the SEC. The rest of them are garbage. At least in most other conferences, Conference games actually mean something, and are relatively good.

To LSU's credit they have shown balls and played out of their comfort zone the past couple years and have been successful ( Oregon and UW). Georgia learned the hard way last season against Boise st. and has since dissolved it's agreement with Oregon for a home/away. Official word is that this was a mutual decision between the two schools. Until we have a system that doesn't guarantee the PAC 12/big 10 the rose bowl and the SEC the sugar bowl we will never really know who the real champion is. Hopefully the 4 team playoff will work out but I can't help but doubt it.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Barkley being out may be a blessing. If Kiffin doesn't handcuff Witteck it may end up being a lot closer game than most are thinking.


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I agree..... The kid has potential. Stronger arm than Barkley, and more mobile. Barkley seemed to be more of a slug this year. Not that he was super fast or mobile in past years. Soft O line did not help him either.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

To LSU's credit they have shown balls and played out of their comfort zone the past couple years and have been successful ( Oregon and UW). Georgia learned the hard way last season against Boise st. and has since dissolved it's agreement with Oregon for a home/away. Official word is that this was a mutual decision between the two schools. Until we have a system that doesn't guarantee the PAC 12/big 10 the rose bowl and the SEC the sugar bowl we will never really know who the real champion is. Hopefully the 4 team playoff will work out but I can't help but doubt it.

The first steps in the playoff direction sure look just like the BCS layout already does. :thumbsdown

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Get this.............. UCLA will face Stanford for a rematch in the PAC12 title game if they lose Saturday. But what if Stanford and Oregon both win Saturday? Will Stanford jump Oregon in the rankings? They would get the Rose Bowl if they win the PAC 12. And then Oregon would still get another BCS bowl game. I'd rather see that. Cuz the Big Ten ain't gonna put up shit for a Rose Bowl opponent. :thumbsdown

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

On another note.............. I like the final weekends games. Some good rivalry games on the schedule. Regardless of rank or whatever. Shit goes down in these rival games. Last week's USC/UCLA game showed that. And one last thing....... the SEC can still suck my nuts.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Nebraska having a hard time stuffing the 4-7 Iowa.............. Losing 7-3 in the 3rd. Better sack up before they blow a shot at the Rose Bowl to rep the weak ass Big Ten.

 

[djunkie]

Nebraska having a hard time stuffing the 4-7 Iowa.............. Losing 7-3 in the 3rd. Better sack up before they blow a shot at the Rose Bowl to rep the weak ass Big Ten.

Fuck no kidding.


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[djunkie]

Are you kidding. You see that punt? Fuck me.


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[HBCraig]

Just curious...
With Chizic<sp about to be shown the door,and now the NCAA looking into allegations,who's Auburn gonna target to fill the coaching vacancy?

Somebody good I hope. Tuberville was good but he got railroaded. Poor guy.

 

[HOOTER SLED-]

Fuck no kidding.


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Pulled it off. Impressive win. :rolleyes The Rose Bowl should be a PAC 12 clinic this year. Nebraska or the 7-4 Penn St., unless the awesome 7-4 Wisconsin can beat PSU tomorrow and Braskie in the title game.

 

[ultrajet]

Get this.............. UCLA will face Stanford for a rematch in the PAC12 title game if they lose Saturday. But what if Stanford and Oregon both win Saturday? Will Stanford jump Oregon in the rankings? They would get the Rose Bowl if they win the PAC 12. And then Oregon would still get another BCS bowl game. I'd rather see that. Cuz the Big Ten ain't gonna put up shit for a Rose Bowl opponent. :thumbsdown

If Oregon wins tomorrow they will go to the fiesta bowl. Stanford won't jump them because their loss was to UW. The PAC 12 is praying Stanford wins so potentially 2 teams will get bcs bids, which equals big $$$. If ND loses tomorrow and Oregon wins I think the ducks are in the championship against sec champ. Like Alabama last year Oregon can get in without winning or even going to their own conference championship. If Oregon wins tomorrow and ND loses i think press/coaches will force them to jump Florida as I don't think they want another sec/sec championship. If this happens it will be oregons gift for getting screwed out of the 2001 championship game in favor of Nebraska. Tomorrows game will not be easy for Oregon though. We shall see.

 

[Miss Managed Assets]

Is it 5:00 yet. Fight On!!!!!

 

[djunkie]

Is it 5:00 yet. Fight On!!!!!

:thumbsup