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BabyRay said:
That’s a bunch of bullshit. First, civility and respect ARE taught…..by example….not by some kind of osmosis. Second, punishment is sometimes necessary. The former is what’s missing from many families. The latter is what’s often missing from our schools and judicial system.
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Ok, this honestly pains me to say, in some ways I see some truth to 530's statement.

When I was a kid, you got mouthy, you got tuned up. Not only with "parental enforcement", that stopped at the door. Refresher courses were taught by peers. Classmates as a little one, teammates as you got older. "Peers"

Somewhere this unspoken truth was left aside. Now, the people who's parents never tuned them up, are in charge of the schools. Some of them need "tuning up", or are beyond repair.

A short story about such crap. A high school football player here was punished in multiple ways for calling the coach an asshole, to his face. The coach had just finished telling another player that he hadn't "gotten any better", "he should just quit". Normally, I could chalk it up to tough talk coaching. The student he berated was a senior, 4th year on the team (2nd as varsity)...but also autistic. This coach is also an elementary school teacher. Was it wrong for the student to call him an asshole? Probably. Was it wrong for the coach to act in such a manner initially? I think so.

Lots of people need a Tune-up, or at least a refresher course in how to conduct themselves.
 
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530RL said:
I'm old but in my generation, no one had to kick anyones ass in general. If someone behaved or spoke in a manner that was insulting, they were quickly corrected by all of those around them or if they continued, ostracized by society. No one would hang out with them, and no one approved of that behavior. Civility and respect was not taught, it was simply expected and people felt shame when they engaged any other way.

Not that way anymore.

Just the culture we have become. It's been interesting to age through the change.
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This is the society you support, what you wrote is how things were when the country was fairly conservative on both sides of the line and how Trump ran the country but now the left wants everyone to get a trophy and everyone has to be nice to everyone even if they don't deserve it. Feelings are meant to be hurt if you deserve it.

IDK why I responded to you because your head is so far up your ass you will never see the light of day again.
 
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Baja 252 said:
TMZ interviewed an eyewitness that said the guy started shooting while spinning in a circle. If that’s true, the police story is sure a bunch of bull, unless the “dispute” was with everyone in red.
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How anyone in this day and age can even think we can believe any story coming from the "controllers" of society, especially in a situation such as this, is just not understanding the current state of our world. I understand it's difficult, but everytime the truth is always different then the "story" fed to us.
 
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Story reads, Two men were in argument as it escalated one pulled a gun and fired wildly at the other. The other pulled his gun to return fire as he ran shooting
behind him as he ran away, Both men had guns spraying the bystanders shooting at each other......
 
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monkeyswrench said:
Ok, this honestly pains me to say, in some ways I see some truth to 530's statement.

When I was a kid, you got mouthy, you got tuned up. Not only with "parental enforcement", that stopped at the door. Refresher courses were taught by peers. Classmates as a little one, teammates as you got older. "Peers"

Somewhere this unspoken truth was left aside. Now, the people who's parents never tuned them up, are in charge of the schools. Some of them need "tuning up", or are beyond repair.

A short story about such crap. A high school football player here was punished in multiple ways for calling the coach an asshole, to his face. The coach had just finished telling another player that he hadn't "gotten any better", "he should just quit". Normally, I could chalk it up to tough talk coaching. The student he berated was a senior, 4th year on the team (2nd as varsity)...but also autistic. This coach is also an elementary school teacher. Was it wrong for the student to call him an asshole? Probably. Was it wrong for the coach to act in such a manner initially? I think so.

Lots of people need a Tune-up, or at least a refresher course in how to conduct themselves.
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But 530 stated that nobody needed to get “tuned up”. His claim is that they simply ostracized the offenders. However, as I thought about it later, I began to to think that’s so crazy that he must have been trolling. It sure didn’t work that way in my neighborhood.
 
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BabyRay said:
But 530 stated that nobody needed to get “tuned up”. His claim is that they simply ostracized the offenders. However, as I thought about it later, I began to to think that’s so crazy that he must have been trolling. It sure didn’t work that way in my neighborhood.
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My bad. We may have ostracized, but that took place during a thumpin' ;)
 
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530RL said:
70 people were arrested at the Phoenix Open on last Saturday alone, many for getting into fights.

There are fights in the stands at pretty much every football game in the NFL.

It's a common occurrence nowadays when there are large events.
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Does the koolaid taste that good? Asking for a friend. Seems more like Windex!
 
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BabyRay said:
But 530 stated that nobody needed to get “tuned up”. His claim is that they simply ostracized the offenders. However, as I thought about it later, I began to to think that’s so crazy that he must have been trolling. It sure didn’t work that way in my neighborhood.
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I think there is a respectful misunderstanding.

My quote was “If someone behaved or spoke in a manner that was insulting, they were quickly corrected by all of those around them or if they continued, ostracized by society”

Quickly corrected usually meant in my time a belt for the younger individuals, or teaching as the word you preferred. For older individuals my generation understood that there was probably no hope.

We can’t fix fucked up adult people who wish to engage in uncivilized behavior with more uncivilized behavior. It is a lost cause. We ostracized them and if they didn't figure it out they went to jail, or to date myself the judge offered them military service if they were still of a moderate age. Although no longer acceptable, it worked in my time.

We both have the same goals. A civilized society. I get people disagree with the best methods to achieve that. It’s your world to fix, I’m beyond the age of being able to help, my time has passed. Fine with me I accept that.
 
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530RL said:
I think there is a respectful misunderstanding.

My quote was “If someone behaved or spoke in a manner that was insulting, they were quickly corrected by all of those around them or if they continued, ostracized by society”

Quickly corrected usually meant in my time a belt for the younger individuals, or teaching as the word you preferred. For older individuals my generation understood that there was probably no hope.

We can’t fix fucked up adult people who wish to engage in uncivilized behavior with more uncivilized behavior. It is a lost cause. We ostracized them and if they didn't figure it out they went to jail, or to date myself the judge offered them military service if they were still of a moderate age. Although no longer acceptable, it worked in my time.

We both have the same goals. A civilized society. I get people disagree with the best methods to achieve that. It’s your world to fix, I’m beyond the age of being able to help, my time has passed. Fine with me I accept that.
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Yes, now I understand what you meant. But, I disagree that it’s not your world to fix. Hell, I’m likely older than you, and I believe I can still have some influence on those around me…..and I still vote, though living in a liberal bastion I do sometimes question the value of that.
 
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Story reads, Two men were in argument as it escalated one pulled a gun and fired wildly at the other. The other pulled his gun to return fire as he ran shooting
behind him as he ran away, Both men had guns spraying the bystanders shooting at each other......
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That's the story told?
At least one of the assholes was wandering through the crowd with an AR that no one noticed?
 
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FWIW - Reports now say one of the weapons was a ‘modified semi automatic rifle with a shortened barrel and a 50 round capacity’.
 
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playdeep said:
Bullshit...
There's always been mouthy kids&troublemakers.
Back then you mouthed off you'd get your ass kicked.Differance was guns,knives,weapons weren't involved.
And parents didn't sue someone over a minor fight.
Guessing our neighborhoods were significantly different.
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I was at Ned's one night, and leaving the bar started some shit with a guy in the parking lot. He pulled a gun.

I ran screaming like a RDP'er that's seen a spider. Scared the shit outta me.

But yeah, it wasn't unusual to kick someone's ass if the situation demanded it.

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I was at Ned's one night, and leaving the bar started some shit with a guy in the parking lot. He pulled a gun.

I ran screaming like a RDP'er that's seen a spider. Scared the shit outta me.

But yeah, it wasn't unusual to kick someone's ass if the situation demanded it.

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You'll get a kick out of this...

One night Harrell, (Donny)Wader,Bill Whaley& I still in high school and armed with fake i.d.'s(thanks again)ventured down to Okie's on a Friday night. That place was was famous for the crowd it drew in Albuquerque we just had to see what it was all about.
Big old bouncer looked at us&laughed.4 guys with the same fake i.d.
We were toast when he got called inside to break up a hell of a fight.
He goes in&we follow.
Holy shit...that was the wildest bar I've ever been in.Bikers,Mexicans,football players&dumb underage kids.
We lasted 10 minutes &knew we'd be dead or beat to a pulp...so we bolted.
That was back when Randall(Tex)Cobb was the bouncer.
I'll never forget Cobb was on Johnny Carson after he lost to Larry Holmes for the heavyweight championship.
Carson asked if Holmes was the toughest guy he'd ever fought.
Cobb laughed&replied...Gawd no,those Mexican's at Okie's in Albuquerque were the toughest meanest people I ever fought .
 
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playdeep said:
You'll get a kick out of this...

One night Harrell, (Donny)Wader,Bill Whaley& I still in high school and armed with fake i.d.'s(thanks again)ventured down to Okie's on a Friday night. That place was was famous for the crowd it drew in Albuquerque we just had to see what it was all about.
Big old bouncer looked at us&laughed.4 guys with the same fake i.d.
We were toast when he got called inside to break up a hell of a fight.
He goes in&we follow.
Holy shit...that was the wildest bar I've ever been in.Bikers,Mexicans,football players&dumb underage kids.
We lasted 10 minutes &knew we'd be dead or beat to a pulp...so we bolted.
That was back when Randall(Tex)Cobb was the bouncer.
I'll never forget Cobb was on Johnny Carson after he lost to Larry Holmes for the heavyweight championship.
Carson asked if Holmes was the toughest guy he'd ever fought.
Cobb laughed&replied...Gawd no,those Mexican's at Okie's in Albuquerque were the toughest meanest people I ever fought .
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… I worked with Tex Cobb on a movie for television… Pretty sure it was the Ray boom Mancini story… not really too sure what Tex did in the movie… Or if he was even in it… He may have helped Sylvester Stallone choreograph some of the fight scenes not sure,???…but what I do remember… because he pulled up in some beat to shit green Buick or Oldsmobile four-door. He pulls up in the middle of the transportation equipment and a couple of guys look at him… and he said oh no I’m not fucking with you Teamster guys and he went and parked his car elsewhere… Really a great guy👍…
 
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What's his bill for security every year?

For the first time in U.S. history, fatal overdoses peaked above 112,000 deaths, with young people and people of color among the hardest hit.

18,874​

The number of firearm deaths, excluding suicides, in 2023​


Someone please alert Melonhead...

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What a dick. Someone needs to throw another cooler at him******

1982, Folsom Field, The Who

Melloncamp was the warm up band. He lasted 2 songs before he was booed off stage and a Coleman cooler was thrown at him from the crowd.

His got his biggest applause when he stormed off stage.


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Daaamn I haven't heard "Feyline" or "KAZY" since high school days...or even Schlitz fir that matter! Thanks for the memories!
 
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Another paid off blind wanna be celebrity! I like how he said "for his love of this country" All you need to do Johnny boi is open your fuckin eyes and see what your party is and has done for this once great, powerful nation!
 
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Saw this posted online, not sure if legit.
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Didn't old john sing about his big mouth and dudes had to put him in his place, then they laughed about it later. Also wasn't he taught the fear of Jesus in a small town. Yeah John, let's keep the guns, and return to tuning up those that merit it. Teach the fear of Jesus. Hey John, remember when you were couger?
 
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“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela​

 
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“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela​

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Maybe some people teach others to hate them because of thier actions
 
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Long Way Home said:

“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” Nelson Mandela​

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I've always liked this quote. I'm 46, and growing up I always heard about this man. I don't know if he was always the kind and gentle type though, preaching love.
Throughout the entirety of his imprisonment, he was still in contact with his wife, whom was directing and likely involved in committing atrocities Mandela's own government found her guilty of. He didn't even separate from her for two years after his release, and didn't divorce her officially for several more.
 
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Definitely not Michigan Park
 
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The trans-Olsteen shooting thread turned to church bashing in less than a page... glad to see theres no open bashing of black people or the victims here
 
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Why is it that they are still acting like the DA is going forward with prosecuting these fucktards as juveniles? I can guarantee if it were any other race or not as high-profile, the decision would have already been made to try these pieces of garbage like adults already and it would be out in every news source there is.
 
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Why is it that they are still acting like the DA is going forward with prosecuting these fucktards as juveniles? I can guarantee if it were any other race or not as high-profile, the decision would have already been made to try these pieces of garbage like adults already and it would be out in every news source there is.
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I don't know. If they were white youths, they'd still have to find out if they were on the "FBI's radar". All the social media stuff would be tracked and looked at, what forums and stuff. Still held up, but for different reasons maybe?
 
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Good ol’e race baitin’ alive and well due to the ruling classes need for the serfs to be synthetically divided. Their handmaiden (also known as the “media”) is happy to go to work…

When the real shooting starts you need to be able to identify your real enemy and here’s a news flash, it won’t be black and white….
 
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