CCW reciprocity.

[FlyByWire]

Well well…

Can’t wait to see Gavin shit his pants if this ever gets passed.

Rogan O’Handley on Instagram: "Our 2A rights are about to get a big boost under Trump. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to carry concealed nationwide, especially in blue cities where violent crime is off the charts🇺🇸"

673K likes, 15K comments - dc_draino on November 10, 2024: "Our 2A rights are about to get a big boost under Trump. There’s no reason why we shouldn’t be able to carry concealed nationwide, especially in blue cities where violent crime is off the charts🇺🇸".

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[DB / HAV]

I can’t open it but if it is what I think it is it could help gun violence in the blue states for sure!!

 

[FlyByWire]

I can’t open it but if it is what I think it is it could help gun violence in the blue states for sure!!

“~…your 2nd amendment does not end at the state line…” ~DJT

 

[Riverbound]

My CCW instructor is one of ones working on this bill. He says should be good in 18-24 months.

 

[Jakeleft]

Now that would be amazing! I assume there would have to be some sort of standard when it comes to classes or training….I.E. if your state requires in person for x amount of hours it works in these states or something but still that would be amazing for a lot of people

 

[Xring01]

“~…your 2nd amendment does not end at the state line…” ~DJT

Honestly, my initial thoughts on this are great, that makes sense to me.

Today is sunday, and I am operating with most of my brain cells (because I am resting/recovering brain cells from last week work schedule, lests just say alot more than 40, I did 20 on last sunday alone, got home around midnight on thursday).

Because I have a added boost of brain power…

How does the above thought process “rights do not end at the state line”, apply to the Abortion Debate, and constitutional rights?

I know thats a very heated discussion, I will never tell anyone they are wrong on their abortion beliefs. I will further state, I have shared my beliefs on the subj on other threads.

If some states allow abortion, and some states deny abortion…
Then that would dictate that congress would have create a law one way or another????
I am not an expert on this at all, but the supreme court kicked Roe vs Wade back to the states/congress so, I think its in their hands now.

Anyway, how my brain works at time. Again, I am not trying to cause a pissing match or any fights what so ever. I made my opinion crystal clear on another thread…

I am bringing this up, because, if thats the thought process on Constitutional Rights not ending at the state line, what are the implications for all Rights, across all states, huge trickle down effects both ways???? Which means congress must finally make laws on some of this… RIGHT???

Or what am I missing???

 

[dribble]

Abortion was (correctly) found by the SCOTUS as not being a right embodied in the Constitution. That’s why Roe v Wade was overturned and the abortion issue was returned to the states. This will have no effect.

 

[lbhsbz]

Honestly, my initial thoughts on this are great, that makes sense to me.

Today is sunday, and I am operating with most of my brain cells (because I am resting/recovering brain cells from last week work schedule, lests just say alot more than 40, I did 20 on last sunday alone, got home around midnight on thursday).

Because I have a added boost of brain power…

How does the above thought process “rights do not end at the state line”, apply to the Abortion Debate, and constitutional rights?

I know thats a very heated discussion, I will never tell anyone they are wrong on their abortion beliefs. I will further state, I have shared my beliefs on the subj on other threads.

If some states allow abortion, and some states deny abortion…
Then that would dictate that congress would have create a law one way or another????
I am not an expert on this at all, but the supreme court kicked Roe vs Wade back to the states/congress so, I think its in their hands now.

Anyway, how my brain works at time. Again, I am not trying to cause a pissing match or any fights what so ever. I made my opinion crystal clear on another thread…

I am bringing this up, because, if thats the thought process on Constitutional Rights not ending at the state line, what are the implications for all Rights, across all states, huge trickle down effects both ways???? Which means congress must finally make laws on some of this… RIGHT???

Or what am I missing???

Constitutional rights do not know state lines, rights granted outside of the constitution are state issues and are subject to state lines.

 

[Xring01]

Constitutional rights do not know state lines, rights granted outside of the constitution are state issues and are subject to state lines.

Ok,
How does that apply to the current Abortion laws, and constitutional rights?

Your opinion is there here no constitutional implications?

Please do not take my question as a challenge, its an honest question.

 

[was thatguy]

Ok,
How does that apply to the current Abortion laws, and constitutional rights?

Your opinion is there here no constitutional implications?

Please do not take my question as a challenge, its an honest question.

I had the same initial reaction.
Then I remembered that the 2nd is a constitutional right, abortion is not addressed in any way by the same document…which is why the SC dismissed RvW.
The feds have no legal say on abortion, but they have a big legal say on guns.

So it isn’t “his” opinion, it’s the Supreme Court’s opinion…and rightly so.

 

[Lumpy]

When I had an FFL I received two books…one for Federal Law and the other for State Law. If we are talking about the Fed Law superseding State Law with CCW's then wouldn’t state gun laws all be unconstitutional and fall under total Fed control?

 

[Floaterboat]

I had the same initial reaction.
Then I remembered that the 2nd is a constitutional right, abortion is not addressed in any way by the same document…which is why the SC dismissed RvW.
The feds have no legal say on abortion, but they have a big legal say on guns.

So it isn’t “his” opinion, it’s the Supreme Court’s opinion…and rightly so.

This is an extremely simple argument. Abortion is not comparable here, unless we start issuing abortion permits in all 50 states.

You need a license to drive a car. You take training in your state and are issued a license. Driving laws vary by state, yet your driver license is good in all 50 states. We do that so people don’t need to maintain 50 licenses, and are not breaking the law as they cross state lines moving freely across the country. Driving a car is nowhere in the Constitution.

Your state issues you a license to carry a weapon, it should be good in all 50 states as well. You should not be a felon in one state and a law abiding citizen in another because you crossed an arbitrary line in your own country, especially when the Bill Of Rights enumerates a person’s ability to keep and bear arms.

 

[Gelcoater]

This is an extremely simple argument. Abortion is not comparable here, unless we start issuing abortion permits in all 50 states.

You need a license to drive a car. You take training in your state and are issued a license. Driving laws vary by state, yet your driver license is good in all 50 states. We do that so people don’t need to maintain 50 licenses, and are not breaking the law as they cross state lines moving freely across the country. Driving a car is nowhere in the Constitution.

Your state issues you a license to carry a weapon, it should be good in all 50 states as well. You should not be a felon in one state and a law abiding citizen in another because you crossed an arbitrary line in your own country, especially when the Bill Of Rights enumerates a person’s ability to keep and bear arms.

Now do fishing licenses!

 

[was thatguy]

We are in violent agreement.

 

[was thatguy]

Now do fishing licenses!

And weed stores.

 

[lbhsbz]

Ok,
How does that apply to the current Abortion laws, and constitutional rights?

Your opinion is there here no constitutional implications?

Please do not take my question as a challenge, its an honest question.

Does the constitution or it's amendments mention anything about abortion?...if not, then it should not be the concern of the federal government.

I'm not a constitutional scholar and honestly haven't done a deep dive to find out and come up with an interpretation of it's contents...

...but the only issue that could be involved with the constitution with respect to abortion is murder, and then we simply need to come to agreement on at what point a fetus becomes a person....

I personally don't give a fuck because I don't plan on raping anyone and I'm not planning on otherwise causing any woman to consider having an abortion. There are plenty of ways to solve that particular problem before it becomes an abortion issue....I think that's what we should concentrate on, collectively.

 

[mash on it]

So, if the 14th amendment federally protects gay marriage, across all 50 states, wouldn't the 2nd amendment federally protect gun rights through all 50 states?

That pesky 'shall not be infringed' comes to mind. I'm sure I read that somewhere.

But California is in the infringement business, or so I've heard.

Dan'l

 

[Gelcoater]

And weed stores.

Meh. Not really the same.
Fishing license, have to pay for a license to do what people used to do without one.

Weed stores, we are paying taxes to do what people used to do underground. Or just grow in their back yard.
Weed is also illegal on a federal level as far as I know, yet many states are taking in huge money in taxes from people breaking federal law.

 

[was thatguy]

Meh. Not really the same.
Fishing license, have to pay for a license to do what people used to do without one.

Weed stores, we are paying taxes to do what people used to do underground. Or just grow in their back yard.
Weed is also illegal on a federal level as far as I know, yet many states are taking in huge money in taxes from people breaking federal law.

I’m referring exactly to the unreconciled contradiction in federal and state law that you point out.
The feds currently have zero law or position or authority over abortion.
It’s mind boggling that some wish federal oversite on their own bodies, yet somehow construe that as individual power over their own bodies.
Bizarro world.