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California’s ‘Ban’ on Motorhomes: What You Need To Know - RVBusiness - Breaking RV Industry News

EDITOR'S NOTE: The following posting was written by the RV Industry Association (RVIA). The issue has been sweeping across the Internet and social media as well. In separate videos, DeMartini RV Sales in Grass Valley, Calif., (above), and, following the posting, videos from Jason Epperson of RV...

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[Sharky]

Gee, wonder why every RV manufacturer is leaving CA. . . . . .

 

[DarkHorseRacing]

If you want to know what four more years of a donkey for President would have looked like, just watch CA circle the drain in the next four as Newsom continues to convert CA to communism.

No RVs for you, comrades!

 

[Mandelon]

While the ACT regulation does not impose an outright ban on motorhomes, it has as its primary component a sales requirement that applies to manufacturers that certify incomplete chassis or complete vehicles greater than 8,500 lbs. GVWR (i.e., Class 2b-8 vehicles). Manufacturers (e.g., Daimler, Ford, GM, Mercedez Benz, Navistar, Stellantis, etc.) are required to sell ZEVs as a percentage of their annual total sales. Because chassis manufacturers have no ZEV chassis that are rated for applications to motorhomes, they have been informing motorhome manufacturers that they will not be able to provide them with any internal combustion engine chassis for motorhomes for the California market.

 

[Mandelon]

When does the ACT go into effect? Will dealers be able to sell motorhomes currently on their lots?

The ACT rule applies to model year 2024 and later chassis. The rule has no effect on motorhomes that have already been legally produced and delivered to California.

If a consumer buys an RV from another state that does not comply with ACT, will the consumer be able to register the RV in California?

In the amendments adopted in October 2024, CARB adopted new vehicle labeling and reporting requirements that will help regulators in California ensure that new vehicles registered in California are compliant with the ACT regulation. The amendments take effect with the 2025 model year. In response to a question at the hearing about non-compliant vehicles coming in from out of state, CARB said that a used vehicle, defined as one with more than 7,500 miles on the odometer, could be brought in and registered. Any motorhome with less than 7,500 miles would be considered a new vehicle and would have to be compliant in order to be registered.

 

[Big B Hova]

Carb is also trying to change fuel in California too, costing us more and more

California is about to change fuel standards. That means higher gas prices. But how high?

In a vote scheduled for Friday, the California Air Resources Board is expected to set stricter carbon intensity targets across the state for transportation fuels.

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[mesquito_creek]

When does the ACT go into effect? Will dealers be able to sell motorhomes currently on their lots?

The ACT rule applies to model year 2024 and later chassis. The rule has no effect on motorhomes that have already been legally produced and delivered to California.

If a consumer buys an RV from another state that does not comply with ACT, will the consumer be able to register the RV in California?

In the amendments adopted in October 2024, CARB adopted new vehicle labeling and reporting requirements that will help regulators in California ensure that new vehicles registered in California are compliant with the ACT regulation. The amendments take effect with the 2025 model year. In response to a question at the hearing about non-compliant vehicles coming in from out of state, CARB said that a used vehicle, defined as one with more than 7,500 miles on the odometer, could be brought in and registered. Any motorhome with less than 7,500 miles would be considered a new vehicle and would have to be compliant in order to be registered.

I am going to start a “6 month shakedown service”. You buy your MH in AZ registered in Az, we put it in an anonymous property trust. We warehouse the RV for 6 months. During the 6 months we run it through various predetermined routes. Test and use all the systems. Take it in for warranty repairs and service. At 7500 miles 6 months (assuming they all need warranty work the first 6 months) you buy your used RV from the property trust and title/reg in CA. If no warranty work appears (never heard of) then you take it sooner at 7500miles.

Of course the MH is available to you during the entire time and you only get charged for the storage and shakedown runs we complete, in addition to any dealer delivery/warrenty events we facilitate.

 

[LBsuperJET]

I am going to start a “6 month shakedown service”. You buy your MH in AZ registered in Az, we put it in an anonymous property trust. We warehouse the RV for 6 months. During the 6 months we run it through various predetermined routes. Test and use all the systems. Take it in for warranty repairs and service. At 7500 miles 6 months (assuming they all need warranty work the first 6 months) you buy your used RV from the property trust and title/reg in CA. If no warranty work appears (never heard of) then you take it sooner at 7500miles.

Of course the MH is available to you during the entire time and you only get charged for the storage and shakedown runs we complete, in addition to any dealer delivery/warrenty events we facilitate.

That's not a terrible idea!

 

[stokerwhore]

I'd rather see un-elected bodies of government that make laws done away with. they don't represent our interests only serve agenda's. They aren't subject to checks and balances. Taxation is theft.

 

[napanutt]

Will you guys please keep Newscum in CA. Last thing we need is for him to become president.

 

[Bigbore500r]

I buy everything used . . . so this does not impact me

 

[Ol Man]

Newsom is up for reelection in 2026. How will the state vote? Biden won by 5 million votes in 2020 and Kamala by only 2 million in 2024. Is the pendulum swinging or does free stuff win all.

 

[PlanB]

Newsom is up for reelection in 2026. How will the state vote? Biden won by 5 million votes in 2020 and Kamala by only 2 million in 2024. Is the pendulum swinging or does free stuff win all.

Newsome will be termed out. Early rumors are Kamala might run for governor.

 

[napanutt]

Newsom is up for reelection in 2026. How will the state vote? Biden won by 5 million votes in 2020 and Kamala by only 2 million in 2024. Is the pendulum swinging or does free stuff win all.

The dumb asses will vote him back in. He skated two recalls. Dumb asses.

 

[Angler]

Newsom is up for reelection in 2026. How will the state vote? Biden won by 5 million votes in 2020 and Kamala by only 2 million in 2024. Is the pendulum swinging or does free stuff win all.

Newscum is termed out in 2026. He can't run. Harris will be the new Governor of CA.

 

[napanutt]

Newscum is termed out in 2026. He can't run. Harris will be the new Governor of CA.

Keep both of them there and I’ll be ecstatic.

 

[oldman]

I am going to start a “6 month shakedown service”. You buy your MH in AZ registered in Az, we put it in an anonymous property trust. We warehouse the RV for 6 months. During the 6 months we run it through various predetermined routes. Test and use all the systems. Take it in for warranty repairs and service. At 7500 miles 6 months (assuming they all need warranty work the first 6 months) you buy your used RV from the property trust and title/reg in CA. If no warranty work appears (never heard of) then you take it sooner at 7500miles.

Of course the MH is available to you during the entire time and you only get charged for the storage and shakedown runs we complete, in addition to any dealer delivery/warrenty events we facilitate.

Leave it in a trust and skip the step. Like a gun trust

 

[oldman]

Newscum is termed out in 2026. He can't run. Harris will be the new Governor of CA.

After the last week you really think?

She's 20Mil in debt paying celebs to say she is great.

 

[LazyLavey]

Newsome will be termed out. Early rumors are Kamala might run for governor.

NOOOOOOOO

 

[mesquito_creek]

Leave it in a trust and skip the step. Like a gun trust

I would have to consult the attorneys. I assumed that the transfer from one private trust entity to private person would lock-in the “used” vehicle sale. But I am just talking shit with the whole proposition.

 

[oldman]

I would have to consult the attorneys. I assumed that the transfer from one private trust entity to private person would lock-in the “used” vehicle sale. But I am just talking shit with the whole proposition.

Same here, No matter what guys will find a workaround, unless they just close the border to any of those vehicles coming in..


And I don't put that past Newscum.

 

[Tank]

Buddy I work with has a pretty nice diesel pusher. Last week he realizes registration hadn’t shown up. It was paid so he’s like WTF? Calls DMV, they explain new car law requires diesel vehicles over 8500 lbs has to be carb certified twice a year prior to registration. He’s like WHAT?! so goes to the referee. $300 to have 10 minute check. He knows the referee and they start shooting the shit, dude says starting next year it’s going to be required 4 times a year on these vehicles. Semis, diesel posher everything. Fuckin CRAZY!!!

He literally went to the rv dealer and traded it in for a new 5th wheel.

This will force everyone to reg out of ca and no one will buy in state. Newsom is a fuckin crazed loon hell bent on destroying this state. All these bills, and laws and his agenda in general are all extremely short sighted. No thought to ramifications. Sickening.

 

[was thatguy]

Please don’t confuse CA insanity with “gov regs”.

 

[napanutt]

Please don’t confuse CA insanity with “gov regs”.

If that cock sucker Newscum did ever get elected president you and I know our country would be CA insane.

 

[Desert Whaler]

Buddy I work with has a pretty nice diesel pusher. Last week he realizes registration hadn’t shown up. It was paid so he’s like WTF? Calls DMV, they explain new car law requires diesel vehicles over 8500 lbs has to be carb certified twice a year prior to registration. He’s like WHAT?! so goes to the referee. $300 to have 10 minute check. He knows the referee and they start shooting the shit, dude says starting next year it’s going to be required 4 times a year on these vehicles. Semis, diesel posher everything. Fuckin CRAZY!!!

He literally went to the rv dealer and traded it in for a new 5th wheel.

This will force everyone to reg out of ca and no one will buy in state. Newsom is a fuckin crazed loon hell bent on destroying this state. All these bills, and laws and his agenda in general are all extremely short sighted. No thought to ramifications. Sickening.

And yet down here in HB at the state beach (or anywhere in CA for that matter) it's filled daily with the largest car show of COMPLETE PIECE OF SHIT 1980's era motorhomes. Most of which are BARELY running . . . if you're lucky enough to get behind one at a stop light, it's a full gas-mask situation. Most are 'equipped' with old harbor freight 'Gen-Sets', which are often left running while motoring down the road. We all know how whisper quiet , extremely efficient, and clean-burning those Harbor Freight units are !

But yeah, go after the nice newer models . . . they're the real problem.

Genius.

 

[napanutt]

And yet down here in HB at the state beach (or anywhere in CA for that matter) it's filled daily with the largest car show of COMPLETE PIECE OF SHIT 1980's era motorhomes. Most of which are BARELY running . . . if you're lucky enough to get behind one at a stop light, it's a full gas-mask situation. Most are 'equipped' with old harbor freight 'Gen-Sets', which are often left running while motoring down the road. We all know how whisper quiet , extremely efficient, and clean-burning those Harbor Freight units are !

But yeah, go after the nice newer models . . . they're the real problem.

Genius.

Be nice. I love my HF predator generators.