Canada tariffs? What about can ams!

[Mr. Jones]

Blaming demand is not popular.

No, it's not. But tariffs making things F-150s more expensive and lumber more expensive so we can stop drugs from Mexico is just punishing the non-users for the users' inability to stop shooting up. Though I have reservations that the tariffs are really aimed at drugs, I don't know that huge amounts of drugs flow from Canada to the US.

 

[thetub]

If it was that cut and dry the foreign companies and governments wouldn't be freaking out over it....

Tariffs are a negotiating tool primarily.

A tool to stop the bleeding secondly....

We are not operating in free trade, the US has over-regulated almost every industry to the point where we have driven the bulk of our actual productive manufacturing overseas. We over enforce rules here, while these low pay markets enforce nothing. We let them flood our markets with goods, they have protective tariffs and trade restrictions that prevent us from selling into theirs.

If it was an even playing field the "free market" argument would actually hold water, it doesn't.

Even the father of free trade, Adam Smith, admitted this to be true in the 1700s, a man who was greatly opposed to tariffs blatantly said that they ARE effective in trade wars to get the offending countries to come back to an even playing field. A fact that is arrogantly ignored by free marketers of today.

The government promised the citizens that as we sold out our manufacturing in the 80s we would transition into "higher skill jobs". This never happened, we traded machinists, mill wrights, mechanics, foundrymen, chemists, and engineers, for Baristas, waitresses, bartenders, cooks, uber drivers, etc.... And then all of a sudden they stop talking about these higher skilled jobs for the average worker, and start about the "Service Sector".... The problem is, the service sector is 100% consumptive, the manufacturing sector is productive. One drains wealth, while the other creates it.

Now we are reliant on foreign adversaries for basic inputs of life, from metals, to textiles, to microchips and pharmaceutical precursors.

This country will not exist in 50 years if we continue down the path we have been on.

right on the money Racey...

and to add its done by design... our beautiful little politicians are lobbied (bribed/paid off) by these foreign countries to do so...

these politicians in return are also given board seats, stock options ,insider trading to said companies... God knows what else...

now thats in our best interest ??? 530 believes so...

 

[riverroyal]

Back on topic....what about canned hams?

 

[mash on it]

Seems like a good deal?

Dan'l

Edit - hmmm, 454

 

[530RL]

Back on topic....what about canned hams?

The US is the second largest exporter of hams, shoulders and cuts in the world. The largest exporter to Mexico.

America should have plenty of canned hams available with the countervailing tariffs enacted by China, Mexico and Canada.

 

[DLC]

Buy a couple bottles of tequila & maple syrup before the end of the year…


Can am buy it now or wait for summer ….

 

[lbhsbz]

The US is the second largest exporter of hams, shoulders and cuts in the world. The largest exporter to Mexico.

America should have plenty of canned hams available with the countervailing tariffs enacted by China, Mexico and Canada.

you need a taller hat

 

[530RL]

you need a taller hat

I’m glad we sold our pig farms. Maybe we can buy them back cheap.

 

[HotRod82]

Didn't everyone freak out about tariffs last time Trump was president and nothing actually happened?

 

[Mr. Jones]

Didn't everyone freak out about tariffs last time Trump was president and nothing actually happened?

It made inflation worse because we couldn't get as much cheap stuff from China. Ever wonder why solar panels for a house are so expensive? Not saying one way is good or bad, but that is the effect.

 

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[HotRod82]

It made inflation worse because we couldn't get as much cheap stuff from China. Ever wonder why solar panels for a house are so expensive? Not saying one way is good or bad, but that is

It made inflation worse because we couldn't get as much cheap stuff from China. Ever wonder why solar panels for a house are so expensive? Not saying one way is good or bad, but that is the effect.

Yes, I get the overall theory.....however, inflation was not up overall while Trump was president. There were targeted tariffs (solar panels were one of them) that made certain items more expensive but inflation overall was relatively low. That all changed when the Government (trump administration included) went apeshit with the crazy government Covid spending.

I highly doubt Trump is going to do blanket tariffs that negatively affect the economy overall, it's all a negotiating tactic at this point.

 

[Orange Juice]

If everything goes as planned, we will be paying $4-$7 a gal for regular unleaded gas next year, and Tesla will be the new Ford. That's how Im budgeting for next year.

Has anyone driven a Chinese-made vehicle? Are they like a Lexus?

 

[NIKAL]

It made inflation worse because we couldn't get as much cheap stuff from China. Ever wonder why solar panels for a house are so expensive? Not saying one way is good or bad, but that is the effect.

Yes, I get the overall theory.....however, inflation was not up overall while Trump was president. There were targeted tariffs (solar panels were one of them) that made certain items more expensive but inflation overall was relatively low. That all changed when the Government (trump administration included) went apeshit with the crazy government Covid spending.

I highly doubt Trump is going to do blanket tariffs that negatively affect the economy overall, it's all a negotiating tactic at this point.

Exactly! While the costs of some items went up, many in my industry, overall the Country was doing better with the tariffs in place. The Trump tariffs did not cause the inflation, the current administration did that.

I blame the economy going to crap on the China flu and how they poorly handled it, just handing out Billions of dollars to keep people sitting on their couch. And the current administration poor handling of the economy from the start of their term till now.

I as I mentioned in the previous post, Biden kept the Trump Teriffs in place and actually increased them on several items like EV’s “Solar Panels” & batteries. I think he increased them up to 100% tariff. The idea and goal was to force those industries to bring that manufacturing back to the U.S. and quit sharing the technology with China.

I’d like to see Trump, FDA Martin Makary & RFK bring 100% of our pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the U.S. To me that’s got to be one if the biggest national security issues we face. If we get cut off, or if they were to lace the medication it could kill our country in months.

 

[Mr. Jones]

Exactly! While the costs of some items went up, many in my industry, overall the Country was doing better with the tariffs in place. The Trump tariffs did not cause the inflation, the current administration did that.

I blame the economy going to crap on the China flu and how they poorly handled it, just handing out Billions of dollars to keep people sitting on their couch. And the current administration poor handling of the economy from the start of their term till now.

I as I mentioned in the previous post, Biden kept the Trump Teriffs in place and actually increased them on several items like EV’s “Solar Panels” & batteries. I think he increased them up to 100% tariff. The idea and goal was to force those industries to bring that manufacturing back to the U.S. and quit sharing the technology with China.

I’d like to see Trump, FDA Martin Makary & RFK bring 100% of our pharmaceutical manufacturing back to the U.S. To me that’s got to be one if the biggest national security issues we face. If we get cut off, or if they were to lace the medication it could kill our country in months.

The cynic in me would say that the same lobbyisist who influenced Trump influenced Biden. Similarly, the conspiracy theoriest in me would say the same thing of a Tik Tok ban. Who benefits from that (Facebook)?

I have some skepticism that tariffs are being sought for the greater good and not to appease lobbyists. Especially when the stated reason is to stop drugs which tariffs have basically nothing to do with. Drugs can be solved if Americans stopped doing a ton of them. No need for tariffs.

 

[C-Lo]

Haha. Sometimes steps need to be taken to get production in “our” country. Back on track.

Can Am had never been produced in the US