California infringes again

[HB2Havasu]

Not to worry. This new law has zero effect on the tens of thousands of criminals that Furor Newsome has let out of prison early over the last few years. Carry On.

 

[boatpi]

It’s beyond stupid, but thank goodness there’s an exemption for current and qualified, retired police officers to carry.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

We voted are selves here? What a bullshit statement. The reality is the demographics have changed in a huge way. California was once one of the most conservative states in the union…what happened? The WW2 Gen died off and the baby brats(boomers) took over coupled with all of the illegals. Im 55, born and raised here in California and voted since I was 18. Ive watched this bullshit happen over the decades. Soon as my son gets finished with college Im selling my business and getting the hell out of here. Lucky I live in the last great place in California…Central Coast…but Im watching it decline slowly as well.

The CA state legislature and senate has been controlled by Democrats for basically your entire life (since 1970) and my entire life.

When was it the most conservative state in the union? Not in your life or mine.

It slowly slipped further into Democrat control in the last 50 years. You can blame demographics but the reality is it is lack of leadership and strategy from the right. What strong Republican leaders have there been trying to take the state back? Who is in the Democrat leadership… you can name half a dozen probably.

There were no change agents or really any resistance to any of this from the right. The people you and I voted for let it slip away.

We got what we voted for.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

It’s beyond stupid, but thank goodness there’s an exemption for current and qualified, retired police officers to carry.

Allow me to connect the dots here.

A new CA law also allows illegals to become cops in CA and that makes them - non US citizen police officers - exempt from this law and allowed to carry. So again a non citizen has more rights in CA than a US citizen.

 

[4Waters]

Allow me to connect the dots here.

A new CA law also allows illegals to become cops in CA and that makes them - non US citizen police officers - exempt from this law and allowed to carry. So again a non citizen has more rights in CA than a US citizen.

I didn't look at it like that. That's BS

 

[92562]

The recert isn't bad, just the application and qualify but if you have a gun in the house for protection then you should have insurance, you do not need a CCW to have insurance. It's highly recommended gun owners have the insurance regardless of a CCW.

And to that end, USCCA just posted that your insurance is still in full force regardless of this stupid rule. They are pushing hard at getting it overturned.

 

[Lumpy]

The CA state legislature and senate has been controlled by Democrats for basically your entire life (since 1970) and my entire life.

When was it the most conservative state in the union? Not in your life or mine.

It slowly slipped further into Democrat control in the last 50 years. You can blame demographics but the reality is it is lack of leadership and strategy from the right. What strong Republican leaders have there been trying to take the state back? Who is in the Democrat leadership… you can name half a dozen probably.

There were no change agents or really any resistance to any of this from the right. The people you and I voted for let it slip away.

We got what we voted for.

I agree with what your’e saying but…the Dems were much more conservative 50 years ago! In this day an age JFK would be considered a Conservative Republican. The Dems of today are nothing like what the party was once before. Now the Dems are the party of total wack jobs living in a world of make believe while they try to tear the country down into some kinda marxist utopia because most of them cant hack it in the real world.

 

[hallett21]

Sure seems like a CCW only protects the fact that when you interact with LEO you can tell them you’re legally hiding a firearm.

In a self defense scenario the CCW would only protect you from being prosecuted for the misdemeanor of concealing the weapon correct?

The CCW does not grant you any more “rights” in a self defense situation does it?

 

[PlanB]

It’s beyond stupid, but thank goodness there’s an exemption for current and qualified, retired police officers to carry.

I was just scanning through the text of the bill, and it does appear that both active and retired peace officers are exempt from what I have read. It's still bullshit though. If I was still an active officer, I would not enforce any of it.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

Sure seems like a CCW only protects the fact that when you interact with LEO you can tell them you’re legally hiding a firearm.

In a self defense scenario the CCW would only protect you from being prosecuted for the misdemeanor of concealing the weapon correct?

The CCW does not grant you any more “rights” in a self defense situation does it?

Correct…. In theory. If you were defending yourself from a robbery in a public place with your own concealed weapon without a permit… that could be trouble for you however.

 

[hallett21]

Correct…. In theory. If you were defending yourself from a robbery in a public place with your own concealed weapon without a permit… that could be trouble for you however.

But every law you’ve broken would be a misdemeanor right? Concealing a loaded gun & brandishing for sure. But does firing in public change from CCW holder and average gun owner?

 

[76sanger]

Lots of people blaming the voters on this, is that right and true? Yes of course! But remember that the "Republicans" fucked themselves just a year and a half ago when there was a vote to get Newscum voted out. Larry elders I believe is his name that should have easily won the vote for governor. But you had another "Republican" that didn't back out and made it to split the votes between the two. Which gave the win back to Newscum. I personally believe that this was done on purpose to not let the Republicans win the governor race. The Republicans should have demanded the second asswipe guy to drop out. Larry would not have done any of this! He's a constitutional guy!

 

[badgas]

So other than places of worship , zoos and stadiums what is new to the list ?

The Church I attend has an armed team some undercover and some not.

 

[4Waters]

And to that end, USCCA just posted that your insurance is still in full force regardless of this stupid rule. They are pushing hard at getting it overturned.

I have my policy through USCCA

 

[PlanB]

So other than places of worship , zoos and stadiums what is new to the list ?

The Church I attend has an armed team some undercover and some not.

26230.​

(a) A person granted a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 shall not carry a firearm on or into any of the following:
(1) A place prohibited by Section 626.9.
(2) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a preschool or childcare facility, including a room or portion of a building under the control of a preschool or childcare facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator of a childcare facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the home if no child under child care at the home is present in the home or the firearm in the home is unloaded, stored in a locked container, and stored separately from ammunition when a child under child care at the home is present in the home so long as the childcare provider notifies clients that there is a firearm in the home.
(3) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of the state government, except as allowed pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 171c.
(4) A building designated for a court proceeding, including matters before a superior court, district court of appeal, or the California Supreme Court, parking area under the control of the owner or operator of that building, or a building or portion of a building under the control of the Supreme Court, unless the person is a justice, judge, or commissioner of that court.
(5) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government, unless the firearm is being carried for purposes of training pursuant to Section 26165.
(6) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, nursing home, medical office, urgent care facility, or other place at which medical services are customarily provided.
(8) A bus, train, or other form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and a building, real property, or parking area under the control of a transportation authority supported in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a vendor or an establishment where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises.
(10) A public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from a federal, state, or local government and sidewalk or street immediately adjacent to the public gathering or special event but is not more than 1,000 feet from the event or gathering, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) A playground or public or private youth center, as defined in Section 626.95, and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to the playground or youth center.
(12) A park, athletic area, or athletic facility that is open to the public and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to those areas, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through such a place in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(13) Real property under the control of the Department of Parks and Recreation or Department of Fish and Wildlife, except those areas designated for hunting pursuant to Section 5003.1 of the Public Resources Code, Section 4501 of Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations, or any other designated public hunting area, public shooting ground, or building where firearm possession is permitted by applicable law.
(14) Any area under the control of a public or private community college, college, or university, including, but not limited to, buildings, classrooms, laboratories, medical clinics, hospitals, artistic venues, athletic fields or venues, entertainment venues, officially recognized university-related organization properties, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas, sidewalks, and common areas.
(15) A building, real property, or parking area that is or would be used for gambling or gaming of any kind whatsoever, including, but not limited to, casinos, gambling establishments, gaming clubs, bingo operations, facilities licensed by the California Horse Racing Board, or a facility wherein banked or percentage games, any form of gambling device, or lotteries, other than the California State Lottery, are or will be played.
(16) A stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or a collegiate or professional sporting or eSporting event.
(17) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(18) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport or passenger vessel terminal, as those terms are defined in subdivision (a) of Section 171.5.
(19) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement park.
(20) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(21) A street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased, controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
(22) A church, synagogue, mosque, or other place of worship, including in any parking area immediately adjacent thereto, unless the operator of the place of worship clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(23) A financial institution or parking area under the control of a financial institution.
(24) A police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or parking area under control of a law enforcement agency.
(25) A polling place, voting center, precinct, or other area or location where votes are being cast or cast ballots are being returned or counted, or the streets or sidewalks immediately adjacent to any of these places.
(26) Any other privately-owned privately owned commercial establishment that is open to the public, unless the operator of the establishment clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(27) Any other place or area prohibited by other provisions of state law.
(28) Any other place or area prohibited by federal law.
(29) Any other place or area prohibited by local law.

Link to the full text of the bill: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB2/id/2723627

 

[Neverbowdown]

We voted are selves here? What a bullshit statement. The reality is the demographics have changed in a huge way. California was once one of the most conservative states in the union…what happened? The WW2 Gen died off and the baby brats(boomers) took over coupled with all of the illegals. Im 55, born and raised here in California and voted since I was 18. Ive watched this bullshit happen over the decades. Soon as my son gets finished with college Im selling my business and getting the hell out of here. Lucky I live in the last great place in California…Central Coast…but Im watching it decline slowly as well.

Amen Brother!! Atascadero boy myself!! We're hanging on just like you!!

 

[angiebaby]

In this day an age JFK would be considered a Conservative Republican.

Like his nephew, who is currently running as an Independent because he was rejected by the Democratic Party.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

But every law you’ve broken would be a misdemeanor right? Concealing a loaded gun & brandishing for sure. But does firing in public change from CCW holder and average gun owner?

I don’t believe so. Concealing your own gun without a permit used to be a misdemeanor.

FYI - in free states that is not even a crime.

 

[02HoWaRd26]

I saw that earlier today ….
Hypothetical question … if SB2 goes into effect Jan. 1st …. What would be a bigger crime … carrying in a ‘Sensitive Area’ with a CCW permit, or carrying without one ?

I mean it is CA after all …. I wouldn’t be surprised if a permit holder got dinged harder.

I tell you … they’re slowly but surely dismantling this state bit by bit.

And we will all get to welcome Newscum as the president later this year!

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I agree with what your’e saying but…the Dems were much more conservative 50 years ago! In this day an age JFK would be considered a Conservative Republican. The Dems of today are nothing like what the party was once before. Now the Dems are the party of total wack jobs living in a world of make believe while they try to tear the country down into some kinda marxist utopia because most of them cant hack it in the real world. View attachment 1319155

I agree, but RFK is still left of center for sure. See his stance on guns and the environment for proof.

They were always a party of wack jobs. These are the people that were pro slavery, pro Jim Crow, and have always tried to tear apart the nuclear family whenever they could. They have always been about race and division.

I’m not speaking of individual people here, but the party and their direction.

 

[angiebaby]

badgas said:
So other than places of worship , zoos and stadiums what is new to the list ?

The Church I attend has an armed team some undercover and some not.

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(9) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a vendor or an establishment where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises.

So no bars or restaurants. No taco shops that sell beer.

(10) A public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from a federal, state, or local government and sidewalk or street immediately adjacent to the public gathering or special event but is not more than 1,000 feet from the event or gathering, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.

Any street fair, farmer's market, outdoor concert at the park, etc.

(12) A park, athletic area, or athletic facility that is open to the public and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to those areas, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through such a place in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.

Walking through a park for exercise or at your kid's soccer game.

(13) Real property under the control of the Department of Parks and Recreation or Department of Fish and Wildlife, except those areas designated for hunting pursuant to Section 5003.1 of the Public Resources Code, Section 4501 of Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations, or any other designated public hunting area, public shooting ground, or building where firearm possession is permitted by applicable law.

Going fishing? . . . don't bring a firearm.

(26) Any other privately-owned privately owned commercial establishment that is open to the public, unless the operator of the establishment clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.

ANY business that does not explicitly post that firearms are allowed. This is the opposite of them having to post "no firearms allowed" and that being grounds for them to ask you to leave the property. Now, it's gone from a simple trespassing charge to illegally carrying a concealed firearm.

 

[4Waters]

I don’t believe so. Concealing your own gun without a permit used to be a misdemeanor.

FYI - in free states that is not even a crime.

Correct, your own gun is a misdemeanor, if you are concealing a gun not registered to you then it is a felony. Depending on the area you may or may not get your gun back. Ventura County you will most likely get your gun back, LA County

 

[angiebaby]

I agree, but RFK is still left of center for sure. See his stance on guns and the environment for proof.

They were always a party of wack jobs. These are the people that were pro slavery, pro Jim Crow, and have always tried to tear apart the nuclear family whenever they could. They have always been about race and division.

I’m not speaking of individual people here, but the party and their direction.

I disagree. I think he's pretty center. I believe protecting habitats and cleaning up our local streams, rivers, and water supplies is something most people support. He thinks those things are more important and relevant to the health of our environment than reducing emissions. I believe he is currently suing the US Dept of Transportation regarding the New Palestine derailment. He believes that in order to help keep our lands clean, we should practice regenerative farming techniques and move away from meat factories and Big Agra which are poisoning our soil and people. Granted, he is for cleaner energy but also for a free-market approach to promoting it. As for the Second Amendment, he has repeatedly stated that he is not going to take guns from Americans. He has also said that if the majority of people wanted more regulations on firearm sales, he would sign a law for it. That all sounds pretty centrist to me.

How would you define a centrist? Particularly in regard to the two issues you mentioned.

For the record, I'm not necessarily voting for him. I just find his speeches very intriguing. It's refreshing to hear a candidate actually who has specific plans for some of the issues we face rather than blaming someone else or playing identity politics.

 

[LargeOrangeFont]

I disagree. I think he's pretty center. I believe protecting habitats and cleaning up our local streams, rivers, and water supplies is something most people support. He thinks those things are more important and relevant to the health of our environment than reducing emissions. I believe he is currently suing the US Dept of Transportation regarding the New Palestine derailment. He believes that in order to help keep our lands clean, we should practice regenerative farming techniques and move away from meat factories and Big Agra which are poisoning our nation. Granted, he is for cleaner energy but also for a free-market approach to promoting it. As for the Second Amendment, he has repeatedly stated that he is not going to take guns from Americans. He has also said that if the majority of people wanted more regulations, he would sign a law for it. That all sounds pretty centrist to me.

How would you define a centrist? Particularly in regard to the two issues you mentioned.

For the record, I'm not necessarily voting for him. I just find his speeches very intriguing. It's refreshing to hear a candidate actually who has specific plans for some of the issues we face rather than blaming someone else or playing identity politics.

I like him. He’s a true believer and knows his stuff front and back. I’d like to see him appointed to go after the FBI, CIA, EPA and other corrupt agencies.

As far as 2nd amendment he said he’s for a bipartisan assault weapons ban. It is pretty demonstrable that the previous one did nothing. Yes he said he’s not going to actively take peoples guns, but banning them from being sold is one step away.

That is left of center.

He’s said he wanted to ban fracking, then walked that back, which means he wants to ban it. He’s got several environmental plans that could hurt our ability to compete. We are in a chip stranglehold right now for example and we need flexibility not more regulation to work out our own supply chains so we are not dependannt on our adversaries for resources. His environmental aspirations are reasonable goals, but again are left of center, as they will affect the economy.

I have no problem with him being left of center. He would still be running as a Democrat had the party not completely blocked him out.

 

[Lumpy]

I agree, but RFK is still left of center for sure. See his stance on guns and the environment for proof.

They were always a party of wack jobs. These are the people that were pro slavery, pro Jim Crow, and have always tried to tear apart the nuclear family whenever they could. They have always been about race and division.

I’m not speaking of individual people here, but the party and their direction.

Please re-read my post…That was Jfk not Rfk…JFK with a J…in my opinion the Clintons killed JFK Jr. because they knew he wouldn't only win the nomination, he would have become POTUS and changed everything. Aside from that yes, still in agreement with you. The Dems of that era were all about divide and conquer…most were and still are a bunch of racists to the core. IMO JFK loved America and instilled that into his son…they were both killed for it. Honestly…the only Dems I would vote for are gone.
Side note, I despise racism in any shape or form. I find racism disgusting and repulsive.

 

[badgas]

26230.​

(a) A person granted a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 shall not carry a firearm on or into any of the following:
(1) A place prohibited by Section 626.9.
(2) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a preschool or childcare facility, including a room or portion of a building under the control of a preschool or childcare facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator of a childcare facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the home if no child under child care at the home is present in the home or the firearm in the home is unloaded, stored in a locked container, and stored separately from ammunition when a child under child care at the home is present in the home so long as the childcare provider notifies clients that there is a firearm in the home.
(3) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of the state government, except as allowed pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 171c.
(4) A building designated for a court proceeding, including matters before a superior court, district court of appeal, or the California Supreme Court, parking area under the control of the owner or operator of that building, or a building or portion of a building under the control of the Supreme Court, unless the person is a justice, judge, or commissioner of that court.
(5) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government, unless the firearm is being carried for purposes of training pursuant to Section 26165.
(6) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, nursing home, medical office, urgent care facility, or other place at which medical services are customarily provided.
(8) A bus, train, or other form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and a building, real property, or parking area under the control of a transportation authority supported in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a vendor or an establishment where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises.
(10) A public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from a federal, state, or local government and sidewalk or street immediately adjacent to the public gathering or special event but is not more than 1,000 feet from the event or gathering, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) A playground or public or private youth center, as defined in Section 626.95, and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to the playground or youth center.
(12) A park, athletic area, or athletic facility that is open to the public and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to those areas, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through such a place in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(13) Real property under the control of the Department of Parks and Recreation or Department of Fish and Wildlife, except those areas designated for hunting pursuant to Section 5003.1 of the Public Resources Code, Section 4501 of Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations, or any other designated public hunting area, public shooting ground, or building where firearm possession is permitted by applicable law.
(14) Any area under the control of a public or private community college, college, or university, including, but not limited to, buildings, classrooms, laboratories, medical clinics, hospitals, artistic venues, athletic fields or venues, entertainment venues, officially recognized university-related organization properties, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas, sidewalks, and common areas.
(15) A building, real property, or parking area that is or would be used for gambling or gaming of any kind whatsoever, including, but not limited to, casinos, gambling establishments, gaming clubs, bingo operations, facilities licensed by the California Horse Racing Board, or a facility wherein banked or percentage games, any form of gambling device, or lotteries, other than the California State Lottery, are or will be played.
(16) A stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or a collegiate or professional sporting or eSporting event.
(17) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(18) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport or passenger vessel terminal, as those terms are defined in subdivision (a) of Section 171.5.
(19) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement park.
(20) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(21) A street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased, controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
(22) A church, synagogue, mosque, or other place of worship, including in any parking area immediately adjacent thereto, unless the operator of the place of worship clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(23) A financial institution or parking area under the control of a financial institution.
(24) A police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or parking area under control of a law enforcement agency.
(25) A polling place, voting center, precinct, or other area or location where votes are being cast or cast ballots are being returned or counted, or the streets or sidewalks immediately adjacent to any of these places.
(26) Any other privately-owned privately owned commercial establishment that is open to the public, unless the operator of the establishment clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(27) Any other place or area prohibited by other provisions of state law.
(28) Any other place or area prohibited by federal law.
(29) Any other place or area prohibited by local law.

Link to the full text of the bill: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB2/id/2723627

So basically you can carry in your car and NOWHERE else !

I guess I will renew so can have it in the car on the way to the river

 

[4Waters]

So basically you can carry in your car and NOWHERE else !

I guess I will renew so can have it in the car on the way to the river

That's it, I always carry to and from the gun store and to and from the range.

 

[badgas]

26230.​

(a) A person granted a license to carry a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person pursuant to Section 26150, 26155, or 26170 shall not carry a firearm on or into any of the following:
(1) A place prohibited by Section 626.9.
(2) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a preschool or childcare facility, including a room or portion of a building under the control of a preschool or childcare facility. Nothing in this paragraph shall prevent the operator of a childcare facility in a family home from owning or possessing a firearm in the home if no child under child care at the home is present in the home or the firearm in the home is unloaded, stored in a locked container, and stored separately from ammunition when a child under child care at the home is present in the home so long as the childcare provider notifies clients that there is a firearm in the home.
(3) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of an officer of the executive or legislative branch of the state government, except as allowed pursuant to paragraph (2) of subdivision (b) of Section 171c.
(4) A building designated for a court proceeding, including matters before a superior court, district court of appeal, or the California Supreme Court, parking area under the control of the owner or operator of that building, or a building or portion of a building under the control of the Supreme Court, unless the person is a justice, judge, or commissioner of that court.
(5) A building, parking area, or portion of a building under the control of a unit of local government, unless the firearm is being carried for purposes of training pursuant to Section 26165.
(6) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of an adult or juvenile detention or correctional institution, prison, or jail.
(7) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public or private hospital or hospital affiliate, mental health facility, nursing home, medical office, urgent care facility, or other place at which medical services are customarily provided.
(8) A bus, train, or other form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and a building, real property, or parking area under the control of a transportation authority supported in whole or in part with public funds.
(9) A building, real property, and parking area under the control of a vendor or an establishment where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises.
(10) A public gathering or special event conducted on property open to the public that requires the issuance of a permit from a federal, state, or local government and sidewalk or street immediately adjacent to the public gathering or special event but is not more than 1,000 feet from the event or gathering, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through a public gathering in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(11) A playground or public or private youth center, as defined in Section 626.95, and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to the playground or youth center.
(12) A park, athletic area, or athletic facility that is open to the public and a street or sidewalk immediately adjacent to those areas, provided this prohibition shall not apply to a licensee who must walk through such a place in order to access their residence, place of business, or vehicle.
(13) Real property under the control of the Department of Parks and Recreation or Department of Fish and Wildlife, except those areas designated for hunting pursuant to Section 5003.1 of the Public Resources Code, Section 4501 of Title 14 of the California Code of Regulations, or any other designated public hunting area, public shooting ground, or building where firearm possession is permitted by applicable law.
(14) Any area under the control of a public or private community college, college, or university, including, but not limited to, buildings, classrooms, laboratories, medical clinics, hospitals, artistic venues, athletic fields or venues, entertainment venues, officially recognized university-related organization properties, whether owned or leased, and any real property, including parking areas, sidewalks, and common areas.
(15) A building, real property, or parking area that is or would be used for gambling or gaming of any kind whatsoever, including, but not limited to, casinos, gambling establishments, gaming clubs, bingo operations, facilities licensed by the California Horse Racing Board, or a facility wherein banked or percentage games, any form of gambling device, or lotteries, other than the California State Lottery, are or will be played.
(16) A stadium, arena, or the real property or parking area under the control of a stadium, arena, or a collegiate or professional sporting or eSporting event.
(17) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a public library.
(18) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an airport or passenger vessel terminal, as those terms are defined in subdivision (a) of Section 171.5.
(19) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of an amusement park.
(20) A building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum.
(21) A street, driveway, parking area, property, building, or facility, owned, leased, controlled, or used by a nuclear energy, storage, weapons, or development site or facility regulated by the federal Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
(22) A church, synagogue, mosque, or other place of worship, including in any parking area immediately adjacent thereto, unless the operator of the place of worship clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(23) A financial institution or parking area under the control of a financial institution.
(24) A police, sheriff, or highway patrol station or parking area under control of a law enforcement agency.
(25) A polling place, voting center, precinct, or other area or location where votes are being cast or cast ballots are being returned or counted, or the streets or sidewalks immediately adjacent to any of these places.
(26) Any other privately-owned privately owned commercial establishment that is open to the public, unless the operator of the establishment clearly and conspicuously posts a sign at the entrance of the building or on the premises indicating that license holders licenseholders are permitted to carry firearms on the property. Signs shall be of a uniform design as prescribed by the Department of Justice and shall be at least four inches by six inches in size.
(27) Any other place or area prohibited by other provisions of state law.
(28) Any other place or area prohibited by federal law.
(29) Any other place or area prohibited by local law.

Link to the full text of the bill: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB2/id/2723627

Time to approach church leadership about putting up a sign.

 

[PlanB]

So basically you can carry in your car and NOWHERE else !

I guess I will renew so can have it in the car on the way to the river

Get a sub compact and deep conceal it. I generally don't like carrying a .380, but my P238 is really small and easy to completely conceal. Some Buffalo Bore +P will make it more lethal if needed.

 

[badgas]

Get a sub compact and deep conceal it. I generally don't like carrying a .380, but my P238 is really small and easy to completely conceal. Some Buffalo Bore +P will make it more lethal if needed.

I meant legally carry

 

[PlanB]

I meant legally carry

Everyone will have to decide what they are comfortable doing and weigh the consequences. I personally think the 2A is all the permit anyone should need.

 

[Xtrmwakeboarder]

 

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I'm not a felon, I'm a felon, I'm not a felon again....it's just so confusing!

 

[4Waters]

I'm not a felon, I'm a felon, I'm not a felon again....it's just so confusing!

And that's what they want